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    Why 2022 is Going to Suck

    But Doesn’t Have To
    by Chris Martenson

    Monday, January 3, 2022, 9:25 PM

A good friend called me up in tears last week.  “My dad just tested positive for Covid and has symptoms, and now that we’re home from Christmas, my kids are sick now too. What should I do?”

After we discussed the usual and ordinary early treatment options – which are as numerous as they are effective – her anger then swelled. “I hate the bastards that did this to my kids!”

She wasn’t referring to her immediate family, or really to any other ordinary citizens of her country. She wasn’t referring to people vaccinated or unvaccinated. She was referring to the people who created this virus leading to its eventual escape or release from the Wuhan lab to spread across the world.

It’s now completely obvious that not only was this a lab-manufactured virus, but that various companies, government officials and prominent virologists across the world were up to their proverbial eyebrows in having a hand in this self-inflicted disaster.

Instead of exploring this with full-throated abandon, the majority of the press in the U.S., Canada, and Europe chose to downplay the lab-escape hypothesis and inquiry for as long as possible. Even when they did look into it, finally, their efforts were weak and soon dropped in favor of juicier “scariant” (scary variant) stories.

Why was that? Wouldn’t you think that the fourth estate press would be keenly interested in exploring the genesis of the most powerful story of this century? The one thing that not only impacted the lives of nearly everyone on the planet, but their own personal lives as well?

I certainly thought so. But I was relegated to mainstream pariah status (zero interviews or requests for clarification from the MSM) despite having gotten the lab-leak story pretty much exactly correct in the spring of 2020.

I go into all of this as a matter of providing yet another early warning.

The same institutional failures on display in the lab-leak coverup/disinterest are riddled throughout every other major institution upon which your very life depends. So many once-credible institutions have been revealed to be intellectually compromised or morally corrupt. Or both.

The CDC? Corrupt and nearly worthless. The FDA? Even more so. The Federal Reserve? Ditto. The same is equally true for the institutional counterparts in too many countries. Again, mainly in western leaning countries. Oddly and notably, not Japan, not Vietnam, Korea, Africa, India…and the list goes on and (suspiciously) on.

Leaving that uncomfortable observation and its many implications aside, my main point is this: the people ostensibly running the show have absolutely risen well above their levels of actual competence.  It may seem like they know what they are doing, but only because the media has completely failed to ask the proper questions and the legal system no longer holds powerful feet to the fire.

The future is therefore easy to foretell. If left unchecked, it’s going to suck. Much worse than it needs to.

It Doesn’t Have To Be This Way

The Federal Reserve is busy making it up as it goes along, printing and then printing more. It’s easy. Nobody complains. Later the Mother of All Bubbles blows up and everybody gets hosed. It’s entirely predictable and avoidable.

Administration after administration puts the very worst people into exactly the wrong spots. Ex-Goldman Sachs employees as Treasury Secretaries. Raytheon executives as Defense Secretary. Ex-pharma lobbyists as FDA directors.

Science and medicine become corrupted by rules and incentives that promote money over health and outcomes.

What’s required to turn all this around is for good people to once again rise up and say, “No More!” If we do, we can actually and truly turn all of this around. If we don’t, we will absolutely get what all of us can see coming.

The backdrop to this is that there’s an agenda running. When we clear our minds and hearts, we know that public health has not been anywhere near the top of the lists for any of the conflicted public health authorities in nearly all of the western countries.

These governments still do not promote vitamin D for all their citizens as a generalized immune boosting supplement offering enormous protective benefits against Covid (and many other illnesses). Why not?

These governments have gone to great lengths to block and even intercept Ivermectin shipments to their citizens despite clear signals that it is both very effective and incredibly safe. Why is that?

Well, we can’t know all the actual reasons why, because speculation as to intent is involved, but we can say for sure that these things have been happening. And that every time the CDC elevates a report or promotes a statistic each is invariably supportive of the central policy narrative of the moment. Every. Single. Time.

Once is an accident, twice is coincidence, but three times is enemy action.

If you needed any more convincing, consider this recent jaw-dropping headline:

Some math: 25% of all yearly deaths happen in the 18-64 category, and there are 3 million total yearly deaths in the US. That means the usual 750,000 deaths in this category ballooned to 1.05 million which means an extra 300,000 people died in this category in the U.S. This is a ball-park estimate because we are extrapolating this one insurer’s findings to the whole population, but directionally it is correct.

Is the CDC all over this explosive finding? Not as far as I can tell. I am unaware of any interest at all. Is the press on the job? No, not the mainstream press. As of this writing, that news has been out for two full days and not a single article has been written in a large mainstream news “source.”

The news is full of hospitals being full, but are they full of these 18–64-year-old victims who haven’t died but experienced some other mysterious ailment that began for some reason in the last year? People who are there maybe “with” Omicron but not there because of Covid?

These would be simple enough questions to answer with some honest inquiry. Inquiry that you and I both know isn’t going to happen.

At the very least, we should be asking ourselves – “why am I just hearing about this now, a year after the fact, from a life insurance company and not the CDC?  I thought they were responsible for tracking such things?” They are responsible, and they’re not doing it. Again, why not? In whose service are they, exactly, and what are their aims?

You know what? It doesn’t matter. Why? Because the very demonstration of such a level of complete rot tells us all we need to know. Those in power have completely lost the plot. The ship has no captain, and there are reefs ahead boiling with large waves.

It didn’t have to be this way.  But it is, and we have to deal with it as best we can.

Darker Before it Gets Brighter

Those of us with access to data know that Covid is terrible for people over the age of 70, but has an IFR equal to or less than the flu for those under 60. Yet that information has been squished and tortured to misrepresent the threat as if it applied equally to all people of all ages and all comorbidities. In other words, Covid has merely been an excuse to advance a larger agenda. If you are nodding your head in agreement, keep reading. If you are shaking your head side to side, I’m surprised you made it this far.

The same systemic corruption and institutional myopia that has infected the CDC and FDA is rampant within the SEC, the Federal Reserve, and many of our formerly respectable universities and colleges.

Which means it’s going to get darker before it gets brighter. How dark? It’s hard to say but the range I hold in my mind spans from “this is going to hurt” all the way to “it’s going to be the worst decline since the Romans pulled out of Europe.”

Eventually, there will be massive economic and financial crises, which are now unavoidable, but those don’t worry me quite as much as the food and energy shortages that are now highly likely.  And those don’t worry me quite as much as the tyranny that’s now afoot and gaining momentum with far too many gleeful advocates who seem to know nothing of history or humans.

That agenda of totalitarian control – once a mere fantasy plot line for fictional movies and books – is now a very obvious aim of many in power. Their seeming naivete about the positive roles of freedom, rights, and private initiative in the development of our shared prosperity is quite alarming, frankly. They seem to know nothing of the role of incentives in shaping behavior or about the complexity of economic systems. They didn’t even appreciate that maybe humans shouldn’t cavalierly monkey about with virus genetics, so how could they possibly care about other more mundane issues like the over-printing of money?

In such a period of crisis it’s reasonable to propose that everybody will lose, and some will lose more than others. The bear market that comes will only prove to be a net positive for very few nimble, lucky people. For the rest, the maxim of “s/he who loses least gains the most” will apply. This is why I focus on building many forms of capital. If one fails, you have the others. That’s true diversification.

Once the darkness bottoms out, then the rebuilding begins. Those who have resources and community and their spirits about them will be those who do the rebuilding. Those days are coming, but first things get harder. This is why we gather.

The Peak Prosperity 2022 Seminar

One of the signature highlights of any Peak Prosperity live seminar we hold are the breaks. The volume of conversation is jacked up. It’s loud and animated and full of energy. Calling the breaks to an end always seems a shame.

This year we’re holding a virtual seminar designed specifically to create as many opportunities for these sorts of interpersonal interactions as is possible. Our “digital pavilions” will be there for people to gather by topic, by region, by speaker or any other identified interest grouping. And they will be open for a full week (maybe longer if that’s what people wish).

The cons of this are that there’s nothing quite like meeting real people face-to-face. It’s impossible to replicate that with today’s technology. Maybe soon there will be a virtual solution that gets closer. I think that’s coming.

The pros of this approach are that it’s vastly cheaper in terms of time and money for people to gather virtually. We can reach people from all over the world.

And this is our mission. To raise our hands high and say, “This is where the conversations that need to happen are happening! Please come and join us.” 

If you feel, as I do, that the troubles have only just begun, and that it’s important to be among “your people” during such times, then this seminar is designed specifically for you.

Conclusion

It’s time. Time for us to gather, to reflect, and to plan. It’s time to withdraw our consent from a system that no longer deserves our obedience.  However, you do that, know that you have my backing and support.

The future is going to be dark. For a while. And then things will get better, they always do, but never before good-hearted people set aside their lives in pursuit of the larger aims.

History is clear on the matter. Power never gives up its gains willingly.

“Absolute power corrupts absolutely”

~ Attributed to Lord Acton (who borrowed it)

The full quote is actually, “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men.”

We live in a time of such corruption, and the worst of it is not simply that these are bad people who would do just about anything for more money, control and power, it’s that they are too recklessly devoted to their own small aims.

Their lack of understanding of the importance of faith, beauty, and integrity is appalling and uninspiring.  Their overconfidence is downright concerning.

So, it’s time to prepare. More fully, and with more focus and determination than you’ve brought to it so far. You are not just preparing for your own family, but for many others besides. You are preparing to play a large role in how the future of your community turns out and by extension how the future turns out.

Ultimately, this will prove to be a period of great disruption and equally great empowerment for those who chose to rise to the occasion.

Find your tribe. Make plans. Stock up. Winter is coming.

But then spring.

Join us.

 

Your faithful information scout

Chris Martenson

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  • Mon, Jan 03, 2022 - 10:18pm

    #1

    Arthur Robey

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    Circling in the Darkness.

    So where did you put the thumbs up button, Dr. Martenson?

    I hover around in the darkness outside the campfire saying "Aliens" and "Oera Linda" possibly to the annoyance of all. We can draw a straight line between the two and the puzzle pieces fall together easily if we consider:

    • The Thunderbolts project where the shortcomings of Cosmology are on full display like dirty linen.
    • Albert's son was schizophrenic. This is why Albert could propose "Bent Nothingness" with a straight face. (Yes Gladys, "They" can traverse vast distances with alacrity using the magnetic fields that blaze forth under the inspection of vast radio telescopes.)
    • Ben over at Suspicious observers brings evidence to bear that the Earth undergoes cataclysmic upheaval every 13500 years. (Time's up Gladys.)
    • Dr. David Jacobs makes a fair fist that the Aliens are here and (I think that) the world-wide co-ordination of these events are specifically  attributable to them

    And the Oera Linda? Didn't She say

    6. If ever it should happen that one of your people should sell his freedom, he is not of you, he is a bastard. I counsel you to expel him and his mother from the land. Repeat this to your children morning, noon, and night, till they think of it in their dreams.

    Sandbach, William R.. The Oera Linda Book (pp. 36-37). Library of Alexandria. Kindle Edition.

    And you thought Freya was talking about Humans, No?

    This has all happened before.

    Clif_High offers up strong evidence that the Bugs have been very busy scrubbing our true history. (Over at the Bald Old Men forum)

    Is any of this actionable? Yes. Make peace with your God and practice your Intuition. The Bugs have none. They paint by numbers.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 1:01am

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    ccwood

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    ccwood said:

    Thank you Chris for your astute and level-headed perspective, as always! Readers who have strong stomachs, and who really want to get into the specifics of the "rot" (corruption, incompetence, misaligned incentives, etc.) are strongly advised to read the new book by Charles Hugh Smith called "Global Crisis, National Renewal."

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 2:18am

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    Arthur Robey

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    Is Nuclear Yesterday's war?

    For your kind consideration.





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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 6:27am

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    davidrussell22

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    davidrussell22 said:

    I disagree totally:

     

    1) Omicron will mark the end of COVID by spring -- everyone will get it, recover, have immunity and the pandemic evaporates

    2) Inflation evaporates as well because it's almost totally the result of COVID

    3) The Fed doesn't have to kill markets and the economy by draconian measures

    4) All the freebies keeping people home are ending and people will have to return to work. Good for the economy

    5) Republicans will sweep in November.

    What's not to like?

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 7:00am

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    RandomMike

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    Satisfactory Survival

    The domain name is available at a good price as of today:

    https://www.godaddy.com/domainsearch/find?checkAvail=1&domainToCheck=http%3A%2F%2Fsatisfactorysurvival.com%2F

    Just in case 2022 and beyond doesn't fit the optimistic current name...

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 8:51am

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    Helix2

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    Helix2 said:

    Now that covid is over, we will witness the refusal of governments worldwide to restore individual rights to the people they serve.  History teaches us that governments don't willingly cede power: their grubby little hands must be pried off the levers every time.  We're soft, and I hope we are up for it.

    This whole experience has been deeply shocking. It is not that there is no captain to steer the ship away from the rocks: it is that the captains we have are intentionally steering us towards the rocks, with glee. I am a scientist and I don't talk much about evil in the affairs of men, because low-level character defects like apathy, greed and cowardice generally cover most issues.  Unwillingness to review the evidence the virus is a bioweapon in order to avoid the responsibility of a response?  Apathy and cowardice.  Knee-jerk antipathy to medications championed by a political figure you hate?  Cowardice.  But forbidding life-saving meds to people during a pandemic, forbidding research into their efficacy, and then forbidding all mention of these meds and ruining the people that do?  Evil. And removing any doubt: the vaccination of children. So I ask the tribe: do you feel it too? A rising evil? And if you do, what was the thing that crossed the line for you?

    When people are massively betrayed, there is always a lag where you stand there, stunned, trying to wrap your head around what happened and that it is real, and searching for evidence that it might be a perception issue on your part.  It is our most vulnerable time.  To me, one of the valuable effects of PP has been shortening the vulnerable window of doubt, the precursor to action.

     

     

     

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 9:22am

    Mike from Jersey

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    Replying to LBL said: (#7)

    I have known Jewish people who were wonderful persons of good will. I have also known people of other nationalities, religions and ethnicities who were not.

    Please take every person as an individual. I don't think it helps anyone to condemn a religion or ethnic group.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 9:39am

    skywolf

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    New variant

    Hope you're right, David! They just identified another highly mutated variant in France (see Zero Hedge). The party continues.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 9:47am

    Thetallestmanonearth

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    RE: Aliens

    Arthur, John Michael Greer recently quoted someone else in one of his essays. I’m going to butcher both the quote and the attribution but my memory of it is: the least interesting question one can ask about a conspiracy theory is if it is true.

    He went on to argue that what is more interesting is what the existence of and adherence to the theory means about the relationship of people who hold it to the mainstream narrative. If capital T “Truth” no longer fits the available data it’s natural to seek alternative sense making frameworks.

    you have been a divergent thinker since I started following the site probably almost a decade ago. I enjoy your perspective a lot. I have no means to verify your claims but it’s fun to look at the world from a wildly different perspective and it adds flavor I couldn’t find on my own.

    thanks for being you.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 10:15am

    Mike from Jersey

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    Replying to RE: Aliens (#10)

    I like Arthur's posts as well and for the same reasons.

    BTW, just how tall are you?

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 10:19am

    westcoastjan

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    Planting seeds again?

    I believe that in the past you have made insinuations, such as what you re doing here, and I also recall that at times you went too far in pushing your views on a Jewish conspiracy. Of course you are free to believe as you wish. But please consider that this website and what is talked about here is very much on the radar of the effetes, who would like nothing more than to have a great excuse, such as being a site full of anti-semitic extremists, to shut us down.

    I happen to have a great love of this site and the tribe. I feel that your posts on this subject matter are a threat to what we have here. So I, and no doubt many others, would kindly ask that you take these kind of comments elsewhere.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 10:49am

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    Snydeman

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    Wowzers

    I come back from a break on the forums to see one new user “completely disagree” while offering zero evidence or data to back up their claims, and another being outright anti-Semitic. While I admit everyone is welcome to their views, these forums used to contain more erudite and balanced discussions. Perhaps I should stay behind that there paywall in future?

     

    Westcoastjan, thanks for representing the core of the tribe here.

     

    By the way, as a side note, it’s worth mentioning that it’s one thing to be Jewish and a far other thing to be a fully practicing Jew. As in any religion, the vast majority of my Jewish friends are loose practitioners at best. To ascribe to such a tiny portion of humanity such nefarious zealotry would require every practitioner of the faith to be “all hands on deck.” Which they ain’t, in my anecdotal experience.

    I worry far more about my more zealous and single-minded Christian brethren, but everyone has to have their bugaboo, I guess?

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 10:56am

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    Stewart

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    Moderation Reminder

    Just a reminder that we will not tolerate race baiting or attacks on a religion. Comments will be marked as spam, and offenders may be blocked immediately regardless of paying or non-paying status. Action already has been taken today.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 11:19am

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    Something doesn’t add up

    Some math: 25% of all yearly deaths happen in the 18-64 category, and there are 3 million total yearly deaths in the US. That means the usual 750,000 deaths in this category ballooned to 1.05 million which means an extra 300,000 people died in this category in the U.S

    followed by…

    Those of us with access to data know that Covid is terrible for people over the age of 70, but has an IFR equal to or less than the flu for those under 60.

    These two statements seem contradictory.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 11:33am

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    Chris Martenson

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    Re: Something doesn’t add up

    You're right Les - something doesn't add up.

    What you are missing is that Covid isn't the explanatory variable.  Now...what new environmental factor was added into the mix in 2021 that was there all year that wasn't there in 2020?

    Hmmmm...what could it be?

    If Sherlock Holmes was here...he might begin eliminating variables.  "Covid there in both 2020 and 2021...so that's not it."

    "Same water supply"

    "Same face masks."

    "But there is this new, improperly tested, hurried-out-the-door medical treatment which is crushing the VAERS system with inputs..."

    I'll admit - it's a difficult insight to absorb.  You have my compassion.

     

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 11:34am

    Canuckian

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    Canuckian said:

    The implication is that the deaths in younger people are being caused by something other than covid. Some would say the vaccines, for instance.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 11:57am

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    No blip in younger cohort all-cause mortality in Germany 2020, but 2021 is looking different. Why?

    A different data set telling a similar story to that of the Indiana life insurance stats ... If you don't like what the data is saying, you might be suffering from data hesitancy.

     

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 12:10pm

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    nordicjack

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    Another post evaporated

    I had typed another post that evaporated due to a link within it.   So this is much shorter version of the original.  ( without actual link )

    We are going to have a lot more data pouring in to confirm excess deaths from the vaccine.  However, they are going to continue to censor more and more.  There are not enough dying even at 2x for most sheople to notice.   Ultimately the narrative will be that the people dying are unvaccinated or dying from the unvaccinated.

    So, it finally appear that censorship is well beyond public stream, social stream and mainstream articles,  it has now be found that t-mobile is completely removing references of gateway pundit in private sms texts between users.  This is outright dangerous and could cause harm once your private messages are being censored.

    thegatewaypundit.com

    2022/01/upodate-stalinist-censorship-gateway-pundit-t-mobile-makes-members-board-users-urge-calls-state-attorneys-general/

     

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 12:15pm

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    Jim H

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    What about the mortality data from the UK you ask?

    Same story.. in this case broken out vax'ed vs unvax'ed, for your convenience - note that the new trend does not start until Spring 2021;

    https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/vaccinated-english-adults-under-60

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 12:22pm

    HurricaneRider

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    re: Canuckian said:

    The implication is that the deaths in younger people are being caused by something other than covid. Some would say the vaccines, for instance.

    Or just plain old deaths of despair: drink, drugs, depression, etc.  Following the crash of the Soviet Union there was a rash of these in Russia and the other former parts.  After two years of lockdowns, people all over are losing their stuffing.  And of course, there's every reason that it could be both this as well as vaccine side effects.

    It's a lot to sort out, and I suspect that it never will be.  Who would do it?  Certainly not public health officials or the press.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 12:22pm

    nordicjack

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    Re UK data

    Jim,  yes, that is more of the 2x death rate I was referring to.    We need about 4x before people wake up.  ( you have to have someone die suddenly/inexplicably out every 20-30 people you know within the year )  Most will not even see that it will be blamed on new variant, covid, and just not getting treatment soon enough etc.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 12:42pm

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    Mark_BC said:

    There's also vax injuries people will notice, not necessarily deaths.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 12:59pm

    Primary Care_MD

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    Primary Care_MD said:

    Absolutely! The lockdowns and draconian rules were carefully designed to take away our freedom, our humanity, our will to live! This adds credence to the theory these vaccines were engineered to be a stealth genocide. Some countries (Japan et al) are choosing a different approach, making it all the more obvious who TPTB are most afraid of.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 12:59pm

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    Blindfox

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    Blindfox said:

    check out my post - Cheltenham bloody hell. This is the first time that I'm aware of that a UK publication has had the nuts to highlight the Yellow book and so much more

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 1:08pm

    Ubermeister

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    Very Bad News for the Vaccinated

    Les,

    Here is the best summary link I had as of last night to the opinions regarding  the Indiana insurance executive's death observations. Kirsh links to Robert Malone and others. Please note that the executive is clearly not anti-vax, and is obtuse enough to not seem to understand the implications for the vaxxines, despite being in the insurance business and working with actuarial analysts. The Mass Formation Psychosis is very deep here.

    https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/unprecedented-deaths-in-indiana-for

    If even a large fraction of these deaths were due to substance abuse, depression, etc..., or could even be remotely pinned on Covid, the news would be full of it. No, it almost certainly is due to the clot and inflammation-related deaths that are hard to pin down, but clearly exacerbated by the spike-producing vaxxes, and certainly will not be ferreted out by the whorish media looking to turn tricks with their masters.

    I think I was unfair just now. Whores only sell their bodies, not their souls.

    Anyway, if you are vaxxed, this will be hard to internalize. The anger may be overwhelming, please try to direct it properly, as Steve Kirsch and Robert Malone have done. I am still angry that I almost got fooled into being vaccinated. It was the suppression of Ivermectin that red-pilled me. I've long said it is the most evil thing I've ever seen in my life.

    Now there is competition. We are surrounded by organizational evil and Pontius Pilate Politicians who, at best, shrug. Sometimes I feel the rage almost consumes me.

    Please be well.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 1:48pm

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    Ubermeister: Dilbert creator example of anger and unwillingness to accept that they were wrong.

    I don't know if anyone follows Scott Adams (creator of Dilbert). He is a very smart man and I laugh at a lot of his tweets. He is also smug and thinks he is better than everyone else. Lately he has realized that he was wrong to get the vax but he isn't willing to admit others were right. We were just "lucky". People will fight being deluded with everything they have.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 2:01pm

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    CrLaan said:

    Book Review: Codex Oera Linda: English Edition Translated by Jan Ott

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 2:02pm

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    Life Insurance

    Shouldn't we see these companies experiencing major losses and ultimately bankrupting? Are we seeing that? Those actuarial tables would not survive a 40% increase in term life death payouts for young people, I would think...

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 2:07pm

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    Freidrich's Teeth: Scott Adams

    Adams is a very funny guy, and generally pretty smart. Certainly has the same touch for the public pulse as President Trump, and early on predicted Trump would win in 1996, before practically anyone else.

    However, also like Trump, I guess Adams also can't admit he made a mistake. Trump has this problem with his Covid mistakes: he listened to Fauci, not Scott Atlas (Atlas is one of the smartest guys I've ever seen), and he jammed through the vaxxes that the power elite wanted all along while short-cutting the testing that would have revealed the incredible damage they would do. I don't think Trump will ever be able to acknowledge these.

    However, no politician, of any kind, is calling out the vaccine madness for the evil that it is. Whichever one does it will likely get my vote, if we ever have a fair election in the US again.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 2:09pm

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    Phildenn

    I have to believe very few people under 40 have life insurance.  I didn't buy until I was over 50 and finally became a dad...

    Not to mention, there's a whole industry of RE-insurance where insurers buy insurances from reinsurers to guard against unlikely payout events (major hurricanes, earthquakes, evil vaccines, etc.)....

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 2:13pm

    Ubermeister

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    Phildeen:

    In the source video (I think it is the Steve Kirsch link I posted above), after minute 21 the executive explains that they will cover the costs by increasing premiums, and emphasize surcharges in Indiana counties with LOW vaccination rates. Clearly this guy is a hypnotized vaxx zealot.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 2:19pm

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    this is normal

    Scott Adams being wrong, and then unable to admit it was anything other than just "bad luck", doesn't seem like an abnormal outcome.  He really is a very smart guy, with a wicked sense of humor.

    But he's also a perfect example of how, in some circumstances, wisdom is a whole lot more important than intelligence.

    How so?

    Well, if your Phriendly Pharma company has a track record of lying about trials, and they cook up a new product which has no long term testing, for which they have no liability - for which they'll be paid a metric shitload of money, "wisdom" would suggest being cautious, while "intelligence" might just be wowed by all the techno-babble.

    So for me, just on the basis of "I don't trust this Pharma setup", this thing was a wait-and-see for me.  That, plus their constant lying about HCQ, and my own personal risk analysis using IFR, told my wisdom that "something was up."

    And when I found out about that magic appendix to their own clinical trial (shots kill more people than they save), that was the final nail in the coffin.  So to speak.  Did I mention the shots kill more than they save?  According to them?  Scott?  Did I mention that?

    Table Of The Decade:

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 2:37pm

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    A Video Portrayal of Dave's Table of the Decade

    Dave, do you happen to remember roughly when your table was released? Just curious, I lost it in the mists of time and anger. Clumsy of Pfizer, they should just have given the table to the FBI to tidy up, like they did the FISA court documents that allowed them to spy on the Trump campaign. substitute a 0 for the 4, and you're done. Simple typo, no one would ever know.
    For me the final nail was early treatment suppressions: hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin are risky? Huh? These are lies, pure and simple. Either way, all the signals were there early.  My very intuitive wife was sure of this before I was, though.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 2:42pm

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    Primary Care_MD said:

    wisdom comes from knowing people's agendas, being skeptical of everything, and asking the right questions...

     

    My first clue was: why in Hell was there this insane rush to develop 180 candidate  vaccines, all announced in the first 2-3 months of Covid? Then Whitney Webb saying 'focus on the DARPA vaccines. DARPA does gene drive extinction technology.' Then Chris Martenson, with the hydroxychloroquine, surgifraud. All that was known by June of 2020. My hair's been on fire for 18 months!

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 2:51pm

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    Scott Adams on guessing right

    He thinks we simply “guessed right”. No, it wasn’t a lucky guess. It was an examination of the data we had on hand. He simply refused to look at it.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 3:01pm

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    Review of UK death data

    FYI,  I did a quick and dirty review of the most recent UK data.   By using general expected all cause death rates by age group and gradients in vaccination rates between age groups, I arrived at:

    398 deaths per 100,000 vaccinated people

    232 deaths per 100,000 unvaccinated people.

    Conclusion:  UK vaccination rate disparities by age group drive disparities in death rates by vaccinated vs unvaccinated populations.   This is due to the fact that older people are more heavily vaccinated and have higher all cause death rates.  

    I did not have an exact match to the 10-60 age range used in the previous analysis due to different data sources.   Due to this, I estimated using a 15-64 age range.  Still shows the trend.  Here is a link to a simple spreadsheet that explains it along with links to the data sources.

    UK weighted vaccinated vs unvaccinated death rates 010421a

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 3:03pm

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    Age confounded

    That data is hugely age confounded (more youngers unvaccinated, more olders vaccinated).  Others (Matthew Crawford, I think) have tried to pull that out and found either a small remaining signal or at least no vaccine benefit.  Excess all cause mortality - covid deaths is the way to go, I think.  You can download data from https://stats.oecd.org/  Here is what I came up with for the US for 2020:

    It's funny how excess deaths ramp up in the weeks before the pandemic begins and then stay elevated at about the same value all year and then as the year rolls over to 2021, they magically begin tracking covid deaths almost exactly - until those fateful weeks of 12 or 13 - the 2nd half of March of 2021.  Hmmm.  What could have happened then?  Note that excess death records are increasingly incomplete starting around week 40.  Now perhaps 20% of those non-covid excess deaths in 2020 are overdoses and suicides.  The rest of them I cannot explain other than some lame attempt to confuse us.  And why do they suddenly go to zero from week 52 of 2020 to week 1 of 2021?

     

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 3:09pm

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    Condemning Madness

    Separate the disease from the patient, and yes, condemn away. Why spare Abrahamism when, on it's watch, religious wars kill millions?

    Oil is not the only reason that the middle east is a hotbed of murder and mayhem. There is a religious aspect to the obsession. Why should I, a Saxon, give two figs about that water-forsaken desert? Why should an Inuit?

    Did the Abrahamist lift a finger to stop the First Brother war? They could have. They were in firm control of the morality of both the English and the Germans. Is a tree not judged by it's fruit?

    Failure to condemn is cowardly.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 3:15pm

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    wotthecurtains said:

    Adams is a guy who creates fake users to argue against himself so he can make himself look great by vanquishing them.

    He's just a human ultimately.

    Wouldn't it be weird if his vaccine regret got him kicked off twitter?

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 3:25pm

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    Arthur: Abrahamists Perhaps Not So Bad By Comparison

    Granted, WWI, the seed of most subsequent Western misfortunes, was an Abrahamist affair.

    However, Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Tojo, Mao, Pol Pot, the Kims, and the big-league Vaxx pushers (with the exception of my own Pope Francis, who is reputed to be Catholic) were/are not Abrahamist.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 3:31pm

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    Greer

    I observed Greer for a while. He offered little in the way of evidence. I dismissed his fantasy that "They" were here to help us and if we sat around in the desert thinking loving thoughts, They would respond with a brightening of their lights. How easy would that be to fake if the military have saucers?

    Credibility has it's limits. Nice try MIC.

    Jacobs offers us no Idealism. His findings upset him and he would rather have them be different. A more unlikely hero to save the world would be hard to imagine.

     

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 3:41pm

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    Meat?

    Sorry, couldn’t resist 😊

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 3:52pm

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    People will fight being deluded with everything they have.

    Friedrichs__teeth--you nailed it.  I have tried every which way from Sunday to reach 2 people whom I care about.  They are very clever and smart.  I have arrived at the conclusion that expenditure of energy on my part, there is just no dividend.  It just depletes my emotional, spiritual, physical reserves to deal with 2022.

    Chris's essay gets every thumb's up I can come up with.  Adjusted for inflation still not enough.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 4:11pm

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    Friedrichs_teeth said:

    Most white collar jobs come with modest life insurance. 1-5 times yearly salary.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 4:13pm

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    But Scotty: there's no "expert debate video" because the other side keeps refusing to show up

    Scott Adams is tweeting some very dumb things there.

    Whatever his coping strategies are for having got something wrong, including his own "dumb luck," that is a patently sophistical (and one would think, dishonest) tweet stating that people should not trust a long-form discussion between a non-expert (Rogan) and and expert (Malone) because viewers are bound to be duped by unchallenged misinformation that slips by the dopey goalie (Rogan).

    We leave aside the obvious rejoinder that MSM and the WH press room consists of even worse than that: lackey-enablers lobbing softball questions that cue the most outrageous, unsupported propaganda in return--which, of course, goes unchallenged. So much for the goalies of mainstream media.

    Now consider Adams' snooty rhetorical question, "Ask yourself whether Twitter or Google would ban a conversation between two experts? No they wouldn't, because a video like that would be useful."

    This kind of smug smarmaganda has Steve Kirsch wetting his pantalones with laughter right now. I can hear it from across the continent. I'm sure Kirsch will have something to say about it, but it's obvious that there will never be a long form debate between two opposing experts re the vax because TPTB don't want to be exposed for their criminally poor data, shoddy and jiggered trials, and outright falsity and deception.

    Adams is correct that Twitter won't ever suppress such a video debate, but not because such a video would be "useful"--but rather because such a video will never exist; i.e., because such a debate would never happen.

    Proof of Establishment bad faith by that Steve Kirsch has very publicly challenged any "qualified" member of the pro-vax, anti-IVM establishment to debate him and/or his "dream-team" panel of experts.

    Kirsch has repeatedly put up millions of dollars for anyone to claim the fee but he's hearing nothing but crickets. That's bc those crickets know they'll be chomped alive like crispy crunchy protein treats peddled by the green-Davos crowd--though not in Davos of course (that's still the demesne of filet mignon, foie gras, caviar, and wild-caught salmon--none of that sea-lice fatty farmed sh&t for the oligarchs...)

    "We don't need your stinking crickets..."

    When Nuremberg Trails 2.0 come around--and we hope they do, soon--suddenly the law-breaking defendants will be huge devotees of due process and the rights enumerated in the American 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th amendments.

    Funny how that works. The hemp neck tie makes an awfully painful burn--though only very, very briefly.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 4:14pm

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    Friedrichs_teeth said:

    But why would the other graphs show the vaxed different from the purebloods if it was despair. I think it is something that should be ruled out but I know where my bet would go.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 4:24pm

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    Table Of The Decade Source

    Sorry for not putting the link in there earlier.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1.full.pdf

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1.supplementary-material

    And the supplement pdf itself - see page 12 - I've downloaded it just in case it gets "retracted":

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/medrxiv/early/2021/07/28/2021.07.28.21261159/DC1/embed/media-1.pdf

    Dave's Rule #1: the good stuff is always buried in the appendix/supplement.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 4:26pm

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    There are no bad guys.

    From memory, first line of "How to Win Friends and Influence People."

    Imagine that. No bad guys in the world.

    Is there a faint possibility that the Abrahamic faiths Dominate the world? Ah, but there are no bad guys. All, all honourable men.

    Each one of these honourable men would offer a Stirling defence of their actions, no doubt. But they are mute.

    You choose the slandered as your yardstick to measure the worth of Abrahamism?

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 4:38pm

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    Difficult to absorb?

    Not so much.  You imply that:

    1) Between 18 and 64, the same number of people die from Covid that die from the flu?

    2) 300,000 people between 18 and 64 died from the vaccine last year?

    Interesting position, not at all what I'm hearing from doctors and medical professionals.  Also, not consistent with the stories I hear from friends who have had sick family members in the 18 to 64 age group.

     

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 4:42pm

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    Life 3.0

    A 5-minute glimpse of Big Tech aspirations

    https://youtu.be/WCvfdhQ-gmI

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 4:54pm

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    Where is the data to support this?

    Hi Les. Once again, please help us to understand your position by supporting your claims with credible, verifiable data - and specifically that which is not MSM talking points, on which we are all well versed.

    Please provide links to the info these doctors and medical professionals provided  you. We cannot possibly learn anything new if you do not cooperate by giving us the data to support that which you are claiming.

    We have asked many times for you to provide us with more, but you never do. I hope you realize that your consistent failure to respond when we ask for data only serves to undermine your credibility here. Just sayin'

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 5:07pm

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    But Les, the insurance CEO's claims

    How do you reconcile a 40% increase in death claims among the 18-64 year olds they insure and similar levels industry wide Covid deaths in that age group can explain only a small fraction of those deaths.  If we extrapolate out to the entire 18-64 population, that's 25,000 excess deaths per month. What exactly is causing them?  Claiming that you're hearing otherwise in your circles does not make the CEO's claims go away.  He seems to be quoting actual important data from his business.  You are quoting friends.

    Would you be willing to try on the possibility that you and your friends think alike you all are either unconsciously not noticing or are afraid to speak out.  Are you just writing him off as lying?  Do you have a theory as to what might be causing the deaths other than vaccine injuries?  Please, don't let your mind avert it's gaze from this important bit of information.

    Humans are very tuned to the sensibilities of the group.  In the old days, group approval meant life while being ostracized meant painful loneliness at best and death at worst.  This kind of unconscious tuning to the group can be an asset in more normal times, just like the contrarian thinking of many of us on this site can be a liability in those times.  I propose that these are not normal times, the tables are turned, and your well being and ability to thrive depends on being able to see this.  Are you willing to let go of your beliefs enough to at least carefully evaluate the data and be willing to change your mind if it so indicates?

    Please also read my post above.  It provides evidence in US death data that seems to agree with the CEO's claims.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 5:53pm

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    Scott Adams

    I'm not sure what game "Mr. Influencer" is up to.  Could be legit, could be an attempt at a persuasion experiment.  Not sure.

    I've gotten him to respond to a few things of mine in the past.  But not this one today.

    I think this is the heart of the matter:

     

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 6:45pm

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    I'm sick of virtual. Are there plans for live gatherings this year?

    I'm probably not going to buy the virtual seminar - not now and likely not ever.  I need hands on and up close for practical skills. And I require more exercise and a lot less sitting and staring at a computer monitor -- doubly so after two years of virtual life with Covid.

    I'm sorry I wasn't able to make the fall event.   I'm hoping there is a big LIVE shindig planned for this spring or summer?   Can you give us any hopeful news on that?

    In general, virtualization of life appears to be the corner piece to this dystopia. I always wondered how the machines got everyone plugged into The Matrix to begin with. Now I am pretty sure I know: everyone agreed to attend "virtual" events instead of attending to the life in front of them.  A fait accompli.  The machines just gave the stupid humans more of what they obviously volunteered for.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 6:55pm

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    Klaus mentions that Japanese and Chinese will get special treatment

    I wonder if his comments about Western White people being up first are why Japan and China are taking a different path... at the moment.

     

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 7:20pm

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    summitday113 said:

    Those of us who can't easily take time off (or handle the cost) to travel across the US appreciate virtual opportunities! There is a role for both formats.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 7:36pm

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    Kevin said:

    This quote not from "Covid 19: The Great Reset."

    It is from a book by John Coleman (here) called "Conspirators' Hierarchy: The Story of the Committee of 300."

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 8:04pm

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    wotthecurtains said:

    "It is from a book by John Coleman (here) called "Conspirators' Hierarchy: The Story of the Committee of 300.""

    Thanks for that.  That pic had a whiff of "non-realness" to it.  Stuff like that helps the media paint anyone who doesn't like how things are going as a nutjob.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 8:15pm

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    Helix2 asked: So I ask the tribe: do you feel it too? A rising evil? And if you do, what was the thing that crossed the line for you?

    As Fauci spoke!

    Then Biden, the WHO and so on.  Very early on, nothing I heard made complete sense.  My BS meter was off the scale.  I wish that I was wrong.

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  • Tue, Jan 04, 2022 - 10:07pm

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    Alas, that "useless eaters" page appears not to have been penned by Klaus

    I'm not a fan of the Klaus but that page raised a skeptical eyebrow. Seems like a mighty outrageous statement for someone to publish in the Great Reset book--if that is where it's supposed to be from.

    So I downloaded The Great Reset from Amazon -- Unlimited (!), they're giving it away.

    Word searched "useless eaters" -- no hits; researched "decimated": one hit on another page.

    Searched "useless eaters" on DuckDuckGo.  Showed up on a "fact check," which raised my other eye brow.

    Something called Africa Watch had this article (I'm not vouching for them) but more importantly, it led to a text in the CIA library, purporting to be a book from someone named John Coleman, supposedly published in 1992, and supposedly found among miscellaneous materials in the Osama bin Laden raid in May 2011.

    (Third eyebrow...)

    Here is the PDF from the CIA library, the "useless eaters" quote starts on bottom page 105.

    Looked again at Amazon.

    Here is the Coleman title on Amazon, paperback, publication date 1992; the "useless eaters" quote is on page 164 of this text. You can find it in the "look inside" feature.

    https://www.amazon.com/Conspirators-Hierarchy-Committee-John-Coleman/dp/0922356572/ref=sr_1_1

     

    My eyebrows, all three, have now gently settled into their normal position. Not sure who Coleman was, or whether Osama really took out this thrilling title on his Abbottabad library card, but I'm pretty confident the offending paragraph was not written by Klaus Schwab. I'm open to correction, but looks like case closed.

    This bit of research took maybe 5 minutes.

    And I don't like Klaus.

    Fair to say that we should probably select our stones a little more carefully before loading them into the David & Goliath sling.

    Have a pleasant evening.

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  • Wed, Jan 05, 2022 - 12:45am

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    Congero1 said:

    Hi Stph,

    My name is Mike, and am a new addition to the amazing Peak team. One of my primary tasks is managing and coordinating our events. Know that we would never stop live in person events. Rest assured there will be a live in person event this fall as well, just like last year.

    That said, one of the biggest goals for the virtual seminar this year is to build a virtual space where our tribe can gather, interact, learn and discuss real time. And I believe we did just that. Will it beat live and in person? Of coarse not. Will it be loads of fun and better than any virtual event to date? I think so! Personally, I'm looking forward to 'meeting' many of our global members this year :-).

     

     

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  • Wed, Jan 05, 2022 - 2:08pm

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    Check!

    The book itself. This bs seems to be going around. I’ve had this claimed about a number of books I’ve actually read; it was horse shit.

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  • Thu, Jan 06, 2022 - 5:52pm

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    counfounding variable

    Australia is 91.7% double vaccinated, and 94.6% single dosed. The all deaths metric has been applied to Australia in which we keep relatively good statistics, interestingly the death rate in Australia in 2020 was below average, as was 2021 (but only to oct 31).

    If your assumption is that vaccination is causing an increase in the death rate, you may be wrong, it may be vaccination plus variable X, or it may be something uncorrelated, like variable Y, or something correlated by not causative like variable Z.

    Just as, it may be something that is in Australia but not in the US, like it could be that Koala's emit a pheromone that makes us do better with covid infections. To be honest, it's probably the lockdowns, or concentration camps, but I like to think it's the Koalas.

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  • Fri, Jan 07, 2022 - 2:07pm

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    Terrible reasoning

    I think this is terrible reasoning because it presumes MY year will be determined by public policy. That is powerlessness. You assume your life is just floating on the tide of government policy, with no will or power to plot its own course?

    If you think that way then you're right, your year will absolutely suck. And the year after that, and the year after that, etc until you either wake up and take control of your life or you die. And before you die you'll look back and think 'what a fool I was, I let them wreck my life'.

     

    The future is going to be dark

    Oh God, thats so terrible. Terrible thing to think, worse to write. Not good, my friend.

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  • Thu, Jan 13, 2022 - 3:37pm

    Dan Edwards

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    Dan Edwards said:

    Les. What is it you hear? What amount of certainty do you have about what you hear, as in what your confidence level on what your hearing?  These are important questions. Do you have a fist full of things you’ve heard, or is it more than that? Throw some numbers out that you feel are certain in your mind’s eye.

    thanks - dan

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  • Thu, Jan 13, 2022 - 3:48pm

    Dan Edwards

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    Dan Edwards said:

    Stph Come the the Virtjal Simit if you think you’ll be interested. We’re stuck with this format until we’ve gathered and communed enough to figure out where we’re all going to meet more often and better. So this virtual things are an interim stopgap measure till we can get back together is what I think is going on. Consider joining, if it feels right enough.  I don’t super care for virtual, but I definitely care to keep communicating and getting together. And who knows when you’re there it might change your mind and realize you like it, or not, hard to say. But definitely worth a shot. I know I’m all in, until this thing is figured out, acted upon, resolved!  lots of love - Dan 🎶

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