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    WEF and Their Diabolical Reshaping of the World

    Evisceration of America as we knew it
    by phildenn

    Tuesday, October 26, 2021, 7:27 AM

Written by Phil Denniston

Part I: Evisceration of America as we knew it.

One big question perplexing all thinking Americans today: Who’s in charge of the executive branch of government?

No one conceivably thinks Joe Biden is calling shots. Kamala Harris – handpicked as successor – must have proven completely unmanageable. Otherwise, why let Sleepy Joe remain the frontman?

As Chris Martenson has alluded, perhaps that’s part of the psyops…

Our confidence, our trust in American leadership is all but extinguished simply by their actions – Afghanistan, vaccine mandates, inflation, shortages, critical race theory in schools, labeling concerned parents as domestic terrorists – that confidence would be lost no matter the face.

But what could cause more disillusionment, more anxiety, a total crisis of our own identity, than leaving this broken, fumbling, demented old man in the Office of the Presidency?

Meanwhile, Kamala is permitted only to tweet, mostly around two themes-

Tax the rich, and Build Back Better.

Ahh, tax “the rich”, the familiar old lie politicians roll around in (like pigs in slop), sticking it to small business owners and career professionals with ever higher income tax.

The super-rich who pull the strings didn’t get that way filing W-2s.

It’s all a giant puppet show, and while it always has been – at least since the assassination of an unmanageable, principled, peace-loving JFK – now it’s in plain, unmistakable sight.

The front men are, well, just that.

So, who’s in charge?  

There are competing factions, no doubt. Every TLA (three-letter acronym) of the Deep State does its own bidding first, but there’s a common theme emanating not only from the Biden Administration, but world leaders managing the dystopian, lockdown, COVID-crisis-countries in the “West”.

That theme, of course, is Build Back Better. Bureaucrats and technocrats alike sing the chorus, a slogan popularized by the World Economic Forum (WEF) and their Great Reset agenda-

As a thought experiment, let’s say WEF is pulling the strings. What kind of world would we expect to see? What would America look like? Does that resemble the one that we have now?

And if so, where will it go next?

In his book, COVID 19: The Great Reset, supervillain and WEF Founder & Chairman Klaus Schwab reveals his cards. Clearly drooling, here was his July 2020 take on the COVID opportunity-

“The spread of infectious diseases has a unique ability to fuel fear, anxiety and mass hysteria. In so doing… it also challenges our social cohesion and collective capacity to manage a crisis. Epidemics are by nature divisive and traumatizing. What we are fighting against is invisible; our family, friends and neighbors may all become sources of infection; those everyday rituals that we cherish, like meeting a friend in a public place, may become a vehicle for transmission; and the authorities that try to keep us safe by enforcing confinement measures are often perceived as agents of oppression. Throughout history, the important and recurring pattern has been to search for scapegoats and place the blame firmly on the outsider.” (Location 152, Kindle)

There you have it, folks. Sounds like the last 18 months, yes?

If you weren’t buying Chris’s hypothesis, that we are now in a mass hysteria, ol’ Klaus couldn’t keep his big, fat, salivating mouth shut. He told us it was coming thirteen months ago.

Hairless cat in his lap, and fingers twiddling…

First, we’ll use the opportunity – never let a crisis waste, ya? – to bang the COVID drums louder and louder until you are scared to death, a total hysteria, destroying the cohesion of society itself, dividing families and communities – brother against brother, father vs son, neighbor after neighbor. Then we’ll introduce the vaccines – holy, beloved, beautiful vaccines – the righteous path to normalcy. As we ratchet crisis up and down with a Greek alphabet of COVID variants, we’ll blame the whole mess on the unwashed, unvaccinated. We’ll blame until you are ready to hurt. Then, we’ll have total control to implement the Great Reset agenda to save the world.

With most quickly lined up and hypnotized, marching to the tune of Schwab’s fiddle, where would the WEF lead us? What would that America begin to look like?

For that we turn to their Eight Predictions for 2030-

This gives us clues about where they’d like to go (for more detail, just visit www.weforum.org or read the book, it’s not conspiracy theory when they put it in print). Like Klaus drooling over COVID lockdowns, they love gushing about their plans, and haven’t figured out how creepy they are.

Watch the eerie video, but to sum up their eight predictions-

  1. You’ll own nothing, and like it. Anything you need, you’ll rent (from them).
  2. The USA will lose power and influence.
  3. They’ll print human organs in a laboratory.
  4. No soup (meat) for you!
  5. Western democracies will be flooded with refugees.
  6. The carbon racket is here. Energy – and therefore everything – will cost more.
  7. By 2030, you could be going to Mars, alongside Oprah and Elon (like that time you had lunch with them yesterday, you stupid little morons).
  8. Western values will be broken and surrendered.

These predictions fall into two categories-

(a) Futuristic, altruistic technobabble designed to capture imaginations, make us feel included, and take us on a magical journey into the future (like Tomorrowland at Disney).

(b) Outright drooling for a global, totalitarian state; a giant, feudal pyramid with them on top. Transhuman Gods reaping the spoils from saving the world, and us on the bottom, hauling gravel.

The video was released in 2016, and most of the predictions are coming true. Slowly, then all at once, just as America or (Ernest Hemmingway’s Mike Campbell) is bankrupted.  

Biden is front man, but you can trace these threads back even further, carefully connecting dots to 9/11 or further. It’s just now, the hockey stick has turned up and gone vertical.

Property Rights

Sure, we still have those. They’re just subject to force majeure.

How many small businesses failed because governments forced them to close? Why is their business essential, and ours is nonessential?

How can the CDC put a moratorium on rent payments to property owners by willing renters with binding leases governing rights and responsibilities, singlehandedly destroying the sanctity of contracts?

Have they heard of the US Constitution?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/article-1/section-10/clause-1/contract-clause

I guess if the Fed can print money, Rochelle Walensky can impair contracts. Jimmy crack corn, and they don’t care.

Who owns my body if the President – not even the lawmaking branch of government – can force my employer to mandate an experimental mRNA vaccine injection?

Why can BlackRock and CEO Larry Fink (on the WEF Board of Trustees) borrow at nearly 0% to buy up whole neighborhoods, creating a permanent class of renters?

Who in their right mind would think a populace is so stupid, so blind to the lessons of history, so abused and bamboozled, that a future without property rights would appeal to them?

As long as we have Netflix, Facebook, and drone deliveries of cricket burgers, we’ll be all set?

Power and Influence

The USA has become the laughing stock of the world, the pièce de resistance being our bumbling withdrawal from Afghanistan, power and influence be damned.

This may answer the question of why they keep ol’ sleepy Joe in the office. It’s not about showing credibility to push through an agenda. It’s about infecting the country with rot.

Can you think of anything more damning to the American brand? Anything at all? Not even Trump’s buffoonry can match the damage done by Biden’s clueless, fecklessness.

Where’s the power and influence in this? How did we get here? Was he the best we could do?

Joe Biden was never the will of the American people. With Sanders running away with the nomination, Lucy yanked the democratic football from ol’ Bernie for the 2nd time in four years.

The machine panicked at Trump vs. Sanders, four more years without real control.

There was an emergency meeting over a Mahogany conference table, shrimp cocktail was served, and wham, the wheels were quickly greased in just the places. The next five candidates fell in line, Bloomberg, Warren, Buttigieg, Klobuchar and Steyer, dropping campaigns and endorsing Biden-

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html#!

Just like that, Pop! goes the weasel.

Full disclosure, I have never voted for Trump, Sanders, or Biden, but I’m fairly certain only one would go along with the WEF agenda. Heading into Super Tuesday, he was toast. Then, just like the rug pull on Sanders four years prior (anointing Hilary), he was in like Flynn, a new lease on life.

They got him in office, but they can’t fix dementia.

Biden is very obviously cooked, and on a very obvious, and very rapid decline. The only question is, will they pull a weekend at Bernie’s when he drops dead in the tub?

Meat is getting rationed

Klaus Schwab, Greta Thunberg, and the 0.1% think cows cause climate change, so you’ll get less of them. It doesn’t really matter, the 2nd or 3rd order consequences. These people think in straight lines.

Evil lines, sure, but they don’t understand complex systems.

This is becoming apparent in a few different ways-

  • Everything now gets rationed through higher prices and shortages. Our favorite beef product – Southwest Marinated Sirloin (mmm, fajitas) from Central Market in Austin is up 60% since pre-pandemic, from $9.99 to $15.99 per pound. The official number for the last 12 months is 17%.
  • They tell us where we can and cannot shop, and where we can and cannot go. It’s a short trip from there to what we can and cannot eat. #HungryTogether
  • Major investments in lab grown meat and bugs as a better source of protein, plus considerable fanfare and Internet writing about it… What has four legs, antennae and can feed the world? Did you know crickets need 12x less feed than cows to produce the same protein?

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/09/sustainable-food-alternative-proteins/

And guess who’s got his greasy hands all over it, the Mister Rogers of the pandemic, funding All Things Bugs, Beyond Meats, Carbon Engineering, Impossible Foods, Memphis Meats, and Pivot Bio, now also the largest holder of farmland in the USA? Yup, Mr. Vaccine himself, Bill Gates-

The evil Mister Rogers, I should clarify. Unlike Bill Gates, Fred Rogers was a good man.

I’ve also read (but cannot verify) that his and many government investments in farmland will be used to shutter meat production, simply turn it off and cull the herds, not unlike California closing coal, natural gas, and nuclear plants to increase the state’s energy consumption share of renewables.

Umm, okay, but how about production? Like, when we need food? Or energy?

Anyone? Bueller?

This has disaster written all over it. Remember, it’s not the change, but the pace of change, that hurts.

Refugees are here (and will keep coming)

No matter your feelings on immigration, and how it should or should not happen, it’s happening now en masse, and very chaotically-

Border Crisis in pictures – Google Search

Shocking photos show 4,500 migrants camped under bridge in Texas community – Washington Times

“These people are basically turning themselves in to Border Patrol, and Border Patrol has no room for them at the Border Patrol station,” (Val Verde County Sheriff Joe Frank Martinez) told The Washington Times. “They’re technically not in custody. They come up, they’re given a ticket for placement, and they’re laying around waiting for a bus to pick them up.” The camp sits underneath the International Bridge between Del Rio and Ciudad Acuña in Mexico… The migrants are taking advantage of the Biden administration’s approach to border enforcement… Del Rio used to be a relatively calm part of the border but has seen massive increases this year in illegal activity and in border deaths. The region doesn’t have the infrastructure to accommodate the people it’s getting — including doing COVID testing… Sheriff Martinez said the migrant camp needs immediate attention. “It is not safe, it is not healthy, for all involved, for the people that are down there underneath the bridge. It is a situation that in my opinion has gone south and it’s not going to get any better until somebody does something,”

It began with a refugee crisis into Europe in 2015 (from the Middle East and North Africa), now they’re pouring into the USA from Central and South America, Haiti, Mexico, and Afghanistan.

The WEF said the cause will be climate change, but this is not due to climate change. It’s their forever wars, political instability, and the moving of pawns around chess boards by sociopaths.

The string-pullers see this as an opportunity to divide and destroy national identities, diluting any sense of unity, cohesion, and shared culture. It’s textbook divide-and-conquer.

The carbon racket is here

And it’s gone bananas in the form of environmental, social and corporate governance (ESG).

Polluters will have to pay more, so altruistic, right? This “will make fossil fuels history”, they say. First off, how ridiculous is that statement?

Fossil fuels are 79% of US energy consumption-

U.S. energy consumption by source and sector, 2020 (eia.gov)

If we could wave our magic wand and (a) double energy production (and consumption) of renewables, (b) make everything 2x as efficient (and retrofitted for all-electric), and (c) not grow the economy or population at all, we’d still have to kill one in every three Americans to eliminate fossil fuels. 

It’s more ridiculous technobabble.

Come take a ride, the world of tomorrow awaits! Leave your worries and your freedoms at the door, and come through the turnstile. Step right up, the magic’s in here!

Carbon credits and the ESG movement are just another racket to skim wealth and impart control on the productive economy, putting it in the hands of bureaucrats and busybodies, picking winners and losers by favoring projects who are willing to play in their giant game of screw-the-little-guy.

But ESG is here, and they love it. More tools to arrange our hamster maze.

Say goodbye to Western Values

What are these ‘western values’ they speak of?

Whether we think of a capitalist meritocracy, self-determination and the pursuit of happiness, democracy and voting rights, property rights, religious freedom, the rights to speech, assembly, or to bear arms, all these things flow from two core principles: Liberty, and justice.

Liberty means freedom from arbitrary or despotic control, and Justice means equal treatment under the law. It does not mean two classes of people, renters vs owners, vaxed vs unvaxed.

That pledge we made back in elementary school; it was not to the WEF.

It was not to Klaus Schwab or Joe Biden or to Netflix or Facebook. It was not to the US Government, to Congress, to the Office of the Presidency, to unquestioned authority, or even to America itself.

The allegiance I offered was to a Flag that promised those two things, and those things only: Liberty, and Justice for all. One nation, under God (with your freedom to worship or not, as you wish), and indivisible. Indivisible, that is, as long as those two core rights remained intact.

Liberty and justice are hanging by a thread.

The WEF is at the gates, and the deep state is letting them in. But the real power from our Republic is with us, in our numbers. To hell with the busybodies, don’t give them another inch.

 

Members join us for Part II here: Where to next…And who are they?

 

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 8:44am

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    LBL

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    LBL said:

    To quote Joan Baez,

    Why go looking for Lilacs, when you're lying in a bed of Roses ?

    Except ... different.

     

    Yes, the WEF may be filled with people who are primarily concerned with their own pay-check, and will do almost anything to sustain it.

    But then, the same can be said about almost all management employees of almost all American corporations.

     

    The dangers to Americans from other Americans are much closer to home than the WEF.

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 8:48am

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    You’ve been Nudged…! said:

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 9:21am

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    Unbanking

    Id like to see more discussion on unbanking, or disentangling ones'self and assets from the banking system. Some people seem hesitant to discuss it because there is a feeling that maybe you're doing something wrong. Id like to remind everyone that it is not illegal to take your money out of the bank. Its YOUR money, they are only offering a service.

     

    But unbanking opens up a whole plethora of issues from paying bills, and check cashing, to storage, liquidation, etc. And just as many potential solutions; Bitcoin, PMs, barter, cash, money orders, western union, trusts, LLC's, corporations in various configurations, etc, etc.

     

    If we are going to be fighting for control of our resources and assets, we have to have some type of knowledge and a plan. You can't hand all your money to these people and expect to have access to it like we do now, especially since they are basically TELLING you that they are going to use your dependence as a weapon to beat you into submission.

     

    As most know here Im a big fan of self reliance, homesteading, and getting back to nature but that has to be combined with an intelligent approach to taking back control of whats yours.

     

    I'll reiterate again; There is nothing wrong, illegal or 'bad' in holding YOUR money outside the banks. At some point, its not inconceivable to think that you wont be allowed to have a bank account or access your money without some kind of social credit pass. You dont want to wait until the bank sends you a check and closes your account for failure to present that information.

     

    You should be one step ahead of these bastards. So the second the banks take that position you pull whatever you have left out of that account and have your trustee deposit it into your family trust account or something like that.

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 9:30am

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    Kathy said:

    We went on a weekend trip and the master (no mask) /slave (mask) feeling was everywhere.  All the service staff was required to wear masks. 

    Kathy

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 9:33am

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    Kathy said:

    I’d be interested in more discussion on un banking!

    I’ve taken small steps like slowing taking cash out and purchasing some visa gift cards.  I don’t know how to handle bill paying and of course the biggest challenge is all of the income streams are on direct deposit.  

    Kathy

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 9:44am

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    You’ve been Nudged…! said:

    "Throughout history, the important and recurring pattern has been to search for scapegoats and place the blame firmly on the outsider.” (Location 152, Kindle)"

    Here in the UK, we saw daily scapegoating & public shaming in the local & national press - hikers (or broke hairdressers forced to open up in lockdown) were blamed for the pandemic.... Jab sceptics became the next set of scapegoats - even though the jabs don't stop transmission...

    Recently in the Daily Mirror:

     

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 9:50am

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    Reply to Kathy on masks

    I still wear a N95 mask when shopping etc. - because we're still dealing with a possible gain-of-function pathogen with unknown long-term consequences... So it might be best to err on the side of caution - even if you've already had the virus, like me...

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 10:13am

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    My FIL died of lung cancer, probably from asbestos

    At this point I am more concerned about a made in China mask than I am of the virus.   I live pretty rural and even our weekend get away was in off season.

    I have to admit, there are no perfect answer in all of this.

    Living is dangerous, no one gets out alive!

    Kathy

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 10:13am

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    Hans said:

    Do you have a source where this quote comes from?

    First, we’ll use the opportunity – never let a crisis waste, ya? – to bang the COVID drums louder and louder until you are scared to death, a total hysteria, destroying the cohesion of society itself, dividing families and communities – brother against brother, father vs son, neighbor after neighbor. Then we’ll introduce the vaccines – holy, beloved, beautiful vaccines – the righteous path to normalcy. As we ratchet crisis up and down with a Greek alphabet of COVID variants, we’ll blame the whole mess on the unwashed, unvaccinated. We’ll blame until you are ready to hurt. Then, we’ll have total control to implement the Great Reset agenda to save the world.

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 10:16am

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    Have you changed your online name?

    Were you previously 'One Jab to Rule Them All'? Just wondering...

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 10:53am

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    Relpy to westcoastjan

    Yes. I think 'nudging' is a more topical/apt term now, as more people are becoming aware of the PSYOPs being conducted against them.

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 10:59am

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    You Will Be Unhealthy But You Will Be Happy

    The best thing you can do is try and gently educate your community and beyond if possible, to the realities of all this and prepare to come together and help each other out when TSHTF. Put an emphasis on how you all are going to help one another get what is needed, the care and attention, food and comfort, sharing and working together, who can do what and how.

    This is what most people want anyway, collapse or not, so it is an attractive discussion. It gives piece of mind and empowers everyone. If you can achieve some of this then people will be more responsive to understanding all the bad shit.

    Truth is if you don't have this you are phucked anyway because if you are the only one all prepped up in a sea of chaos it doesn't matter, nothing matters at that point. If you are somehow "unbanked" and tens of thousands of others all around you are not, it doesn't matter a lick if the banks lock up, your toast, and not the light golden brown kind with butter and jam, the black smoking kind.

    Cheers!

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 11:00am

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    First they came for...

    First they came for those 65 or older

    Then they came for those that were scared

    then they came for the medical workers

    then they came for those over 18

    then they came for those employed by employers with 100 or more people

    then they came for those that were over 12

    Now they are coming for those over 5

    Is it GO time yet? What is a bridge too far? Is there one?

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 11:01am

    westcoastjan

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    That is the norm here...

    Victoria BC is mask & jab central! If one is to believe what the authorities are spewing, then about 80% of the population is jabbed and dutifully wear their masks, even when/where NOT required to. Note virtually none are N-95 masks. All tend to be either surgical or cloth masks. And of course it is now a fashion parade! 🙄

    To give you an idea of the propaganda and hit pieces we are subjected to, see this small article about our Provincial Health Officer recently completing a running event. What is said is full of lies and a total misrepresentation of what is happening at protests. There are many who think that the young woman she mentions is in fact a paid shill. I do not doubt it, at all.

    The attitudes, vitriol, and outright discrimination of those who are standing up for freedom of choice is absolutely appalling. There are now people actually showing glee over those who are losing their jobs due to mandates. It is beyond sickening... this is mass psychosis at its best!

    With Remembrance Day nearing on Nov 11th, I suspect we will see a full force of hypocrites wearing red poppies. Anyone who supports these mandates and dons a poppy dishonours all those who fought and died for our freedoms!!!! No doubt they will not be able to see it that way. Indeed I expect there will be media spin to flip-flop that into the un-vaxxed being blamed for the loss of freedoms.

    I liken what we are doing to being a bad guy walking into a saloon full of Sheriffs who are having a beer. It is a tad uncomfortable... we who are the minority do however remain steadfast and committed to defending the Constitutional and Nuremberg Code rights of all people. It is all about freedom of choice!

    Without human rights, without liberty and justice, we are nothing. Klaus, Bill et al can take their WEF blueprint for the future and stick it where the sun don't shine! That is not the kind of world I want to live in. And that is why I do what I do, no matter how difficult it gets. We will prevail, and these SOB globalists will fail!

     

     

     

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 11:39am

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    hacking the banks

    Armstrong has an interesting analysis about one way they could undermine the economy.  (To Build Back Better, of course).  He specifically talks about wiping out the savings of the Plebes by "hacking the banks" as one mechanism.

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/war-money/

    History repeats all the time. With digital currencies, the next war may not be counterfeiting the paper currency of an opponent. This time, they will have to hack the banks and wipe out people’s savings to economically undermine their economy. This means that every bank will become a target to hackers, whereas traditionally in war you simply attack the currency of the sovereign.

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 12:02pm

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    The latest After Skool video - so relevant

    Who Would SURVIVE the Collapse of Civilization

    Ten and a half minutes, well worth watching!

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 12:50pm

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    vitriol from a 'friend'

    Yesterday I sent excerpts of the mountie's description of what our governments are doing to us as domestic abuse to several friends asking them to read it. It was just meant to show them what I am going through right now. I didn't think it was that provocative.

    This is what I got back from one of them, a friendly, well-off, comfortable, kind, well-travelled woman friend in her mid-70s, this morning. It’s close to hate language. So sad to lose long-term friends like this 🙁
    Begin forwarded message:
    From: XXXXX
    Subject: The duty of a government is to protect its citizens...........
    Date: October 25, 2021 at 9:12:29 PM EDT
    To: (me)
    Reply-To: XXXXX

    As I said before we are fighting a war against a deadly foe. It is an enormous insult to all the medical personnel who fight to save people every single day, many of whom have lost their own lives trying to save others, to fail to take all possible precautions against covid. Our government is trying to protect those of us who choose to be prudent from the willful, selfish, stupidity of those who refuse vaccination. Comparing their actions with those of domestic abusers would be laughable if it were not so dangerous and indeed subversive.

    Do not send me any more of these inane e-mails.

    C

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 12:56pm

    Steven Kelso

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    Monetary Reform...

    ...is the civil rights issue of the 21st century. This is my primary political issue. All other crises stem from the centripetal velocity of debt-based currencies and systemic usury.

    The entire planet has been under the control of a global financial dictatorship for quite some time, now. Most people don't recognize it, because they are like a fish in water, so immersed in the thing so as not to recognize it. Chris Martenson, Damon Vrabel, and Mike Maloney have done excellent videos explaining the nature of the bond market. In fact, there's no shortage of information on how money works, yet people still remain ignorant. 

    If you've read my definitions of western Authoritarianism (the store is always open), then you'll respect why I don't have much hope for organized resistance. 

    The average American (and most first-worlders) could not imagine life without the following:

    • Bank Account
    • Credit Card
    • Mobile Phone
    • Free/Pay Television (including Netflix, et al)
    • Internet
    • Online Retailers
    • Social Media

    All of the above are luxuries. If you don't think so, you're the proverbial fish in water. As these are luxuries, you should be able to consciously walk away from them. I use cash for every IRL purchase. But even if I was a mattress stuffer, I'd still be a slave to the bond market. 

    The Bitcoin crowd doesn't get it, either, in my opinion. I've asked how they use it without access to energy? Crickets. I've asked how it avoids the systemic usury and centripetal velocity? Again, crickets. Guess what? Nunya Bitcoin enthusiasts have as much as the whales do (which are now countries, btw).

    So what is money? North Dakota has the only state-owned bank in the U.S. This enables them to control interest rates at the state level, so they can run counter-cyclical policies accordingly. This is how they were the only state in the union still in the black during the 2008 subprime sabotage. And people may wryly point at the oil production there, but in truth, the farmers kept their farms because of the policies of a socialist bank. Cue bogeyman. 

    Local Communities also have local currencies, which is technically unconstitutional. These currencies may only be spent in a specific place, but systems like these, again must preclude global industrial civilization. Those gigantic human endeavors aren't being paid for with Mountain Hours. 

    Then we have the states just doing what the Fed does. The Minnesota Transportation Act was a law to simply print money to repair their state's roads and infrastructure. Novel concept for some. Not sure what the ultimate fate of this bill was.

    Money is an abstract utility. There are concepts of currency like positive money and modern monetary theory (which, nobody on the internet understands, btw) that attempt to understand money in a different way. Just to clarify the earlier comment, the Fed's QE4EVA approach is not MMT. Think the Minnesota Transportation Act: Printing money and building roads with it, instead of WMDs and wars. You have to create physical, tangible wealth from the money printed. 

    What are your thoughts on money?

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 1:40pm

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    phildenn said:

    That was me rewording the quote from Klaus’ book above it. Sorry for any confusion!

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 2:13pm

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    First they came for

    You forgot pregnant women and their unborn children

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 2:28pm

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    The WEF launches The Great Narrative Initiative

    https://www.technocracy.news/propaganda-blowout-world-economic-forum-launches-great-narrative-initiative/

    ...The idea of a great narrative is something that the French philosopher Jean-Francois Lyotard called a “grand narrative,” (aka “metanarrative“) which, according to Philo-Notes, “functions to legitimize power, authority, and social customs” — everything that the great reset is trying to achieve.

    Authoritarians use great narratives to legitimize their own power, and they do this by claiming to have knowledge and understanding that speaks to a universal truth.

    At the same time, authoritarians use these grand narratives in an “attempt to translate alternative accounts into their own language and to suppress all objections to what they themselves are saying.”

    Marxism creates “a society in which all individuals can develop their talents to the fullest” is one example of a grand narrative.

    Historically, grand narratives like that of Marxism ignore science, disregard alternative perspectives, and censor dissenting ideas. ...

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 2:36pm

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    brushhog said:

    What are your thoughts on money?

    This:

     

     

    If you've read my definitions of western Authoritarianism (the store is always open), then you'll respect why I don't have much hope for organized resistance.

    Ive railed against the monetary system for too long. I dont see it changing anytime soon, or in any way that benefits the average person. Ive given up on big, collective changes. My focus now is on how can I, personally, mitigate the suffering to my self and my family.

     

    The way I have approach it is to try to create a life that depends less on money and that means self reliance. Make money as small a part of your life as possible. The ideal would be to live without money entirely. I dont think I'll ever get there completely but there is ALOT of slack between here and there. At the very least, I could see my only expense being my property tax bill [ which is mostly paid for by the land itself ].

     

    All that being said, I have a good savings, I have assets that Ive worked hard for and I dont want to lose them. I also think, as self reliant as I can possibly become, I'll need land on which to ply my trade. If Im shut out of the banking system for any reason...how can I pay my property taxes?

     

    That could be where a trustee, lawyer, or corporate proxy could step in and write checks from a non-personalized account or perhaps BTC or PM's could be a place where I might store wealth in leu of being able to hold a bank account.

     

    I understand your question is a broader perspective on the very concept of money in society...but Im done asking those questions and done trying to wake people up. Its like being on the Titanic and seeing the iceberg dead ahead. You're trying to warn people but nobody wants to hear it. Well, there comes a time when you have to stop warning people and find yourself a lifeboat before hell breaks loose. Thats where Im at right now. Ten years ago you and I could have had a great conversation about the nature of money, the fed, interest rates, inflation, sound money, the banking system and etc.. but IMO we're past the point where any of that matters.

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 3:45pm

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    Allodial Title

    Yeah, to be honest, I've come to terms with the reality of cycles. I feel that humans are obsessed with the unrealistic concept that society or any system can be a static perfection, rather than a mutable fluid. 

    The problem that presents itself to me is this:USD and GBP represent the longest running fiat currencies in human history, meaning that they likely don't have too much time left. Davos Vampires introduce Central bank Digital Currencies (new fiat) and the financial dictatorship keeps humming along.  "Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss." We don't get fooled again? I beg to differ. 

    Most people will not be able to pull out of Wall Street completely. Sort of a "Toddler Syndrome" where they see other people making money and think that's what they should have, or be doing. Instead they're just enriching the oligarchs that feed off of that system. We've already seen how the markets are managed (read: fixed). The allegory that works for me is The Matrix: as long as you're still plugged in, you're feeding the system...and you will defend it's legitimacy

    As for your property tax concerns, have you ever heard of an allodial title? That's when you don't have to pay taxes because you own "real property". Nevada did this, then put the kibosh on it in 2005.

    Might need to seed a Neo-Allodial movement to contrast their Neo-Feudal movement.

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 3:58pm

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    The America that Almost Was and Yet May Be

    Another great one, in my opinion, by Charles Eisenstein ...

    Speaking of JFKs assassination ... "A large minority rejected the official story outright, but the majority, my father included, pretended and professed to believe it. But in their heart of hearts they did not believe. As well they should not have—on the face of it, the story beggars belief. I mean, come on. The whole thing just doesn’t add up. However, to reject the official story would have required accepting something so monstrous and so utterly contrary to the story of America that few people could withstand the shattering cognitive dissonance that would have followed. In most people’s eyes, the CIA and the military-industrial establishment were still heroes. They broke the codes that led to the defeat of the Nazis and the Japanese. They were fighting against the specter of communism. For them to kill a President, a war hero, was unthinkable. It contradicted the entire story of America, land of the free, beacon of democracy, exemplar for the world."

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 4:14pm

    brushhog

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    Canuck that is a very venomous and insulting email you got. I'd have to say its safe to assume that person is not your friend. Even if a friend sent me emails that I disagreed with, I could never speak that way to somebody that I like and respect.....and I would never tolerate being spoken to that way.

     

    I had a friend of 30 years that took an attitude like that with me and I havent spoken to him since nor will I EVER.

     

    That goes beyond the issue of political opinion  and into the personal. That person does not respect you and does not value your friendship.

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 4:23pm

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    Truth is if you don't have this you are phucked anyway because if you are the only one all prepped up in a sea of chaos it doesn't matter, nothing matters at that point. If you are somehow "unbanked" and tens of thousands of others all around you are not, it doesn't matter 

    I dont think it will be chaos, I think the tens of thousands around me will take the jab, get on the social credit system, and continue on like before. Im not going on that trip so me, and others like me, are trying to figure out how we might avoid it with the least amount of pain.

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 4:37pm

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    Stuck with Sleepy Joe for a While

    PhilDenn wrote:

    One big question perplexing all thinking Americans today: Who’s in charge of the executive branch of government?

    No one conceivably thinks Joe Biden is calling shots. Kamala Harris – handpicked as successor – must have proven completely unmanageable. Otherwise, why let Sleepy Joe remain the frontman?

    We're stuck with Sleepy Joe until January, 2023. Because of the 50:50 tie in the Senate, the only way anything would get passed is if VP Harris is there to break the tie. If Joe steps down, Harris would become president and there wouldn't be anyone to break the tie in the Senate. The Red team wouldn't approve any VP nomination until the next congress comes in. If they did, the new VP would vote against them to break the tie. Even if that is the "right" thing to do, it just won't happen.

    Grover

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 5:41pm

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    Replying to Canuck21

    Sounds like the way my own family speaks to me - even when I'm continuously proved to be correct....

    Your correspondent is just a skilled-TV watcher - just like my kin. I'm staying organic & free-range, regardless...

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 5:50pm

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    A little hope

    I danced to Mike Love performing this song live on Thursday night last week.  The energy of the smallish crowd was tremendous.  It says so much to me about what really matters, about keeping a level head in challenging times and about how the elite are destined to crash on the shoals of hubris:

    First, for those of you who don't like to feed the google monster:

    https://mikelove.bandcamp.com/track/penniless-live-6-5-19

    And for those of you who just need video or don't have a bandcamp account:





    And, of course, the lyrics (these don't match the live version perfectly, but close enough):

    I've kept my mouth shut too long
    Begging for scraps down here at the bottom
    And though I know it might ruffle some feathers
    I just can't hold my tongue no more
    'Cause I'm sure that the weak and the poor
    Got something to say, but they can't pay so nobody listens
    And a man with a hell of a plan
    Can't do nothing with his hands, while he's stuck in the back washing dishes
    It don't seem right that some work 'til the day that they die
    And some never have to work a single day in their lives
    Won't somebody tell me why
    I get paid half as much to work
    Twice as hard as all these yuppie jerks
    Just because I don't wear a suit and a tie
    Am I out of my mind to wish that I was

    Penniless, so that I could rest
    All these money troubles give me stress
    Always wanting more and having less
    All these worries take my life away
    There goes another day
    Working minimum wage
    Trapped up inside this cage
    With one foot in the grave
    I think it would be best
    It we all were just more penniless

    They say you're penniless, you're broke
    But to me it's a joke
    'Cause the wealthiest ones, mentally, spiritually, are the unhealthiest ones
    Their trust funds ain't gonna save 'em when the judgement comes
    We'll just watch them run
    'Cause the tidal wave's coming and it's gonna break
    And take away all ignorance, leave only truth in its wake
    'Cause any system's bound to fail that let's the treacherous prevail
    Puts the innocent in jail, watches them burn at the stake

    But I and I know that there will come a day
    When the breeze will blow and take this all away
    And in time everything will be okay
    If we can just find a way to stay

    Penniless, so that I could rest
    All these money troubles give me stress
    Always wanting more and having less
    All these worries take my life away
    There goes another day
    Working minimum wage
    Trapped up inside this cage
    With one foot in the grave
    I think it would be best
    It we all were just more penniless

    What we hold within our hearts
    Will always be, will never part
    And what we hold within our hands
    Will quickly turn to smoke and sand
    So let it go, let it go, let go, let go
    'Cause the rain will fall and wash away
    And sun will shine another day, another life, another way
    Another chance to run and play
    And all these things that you hold dear
    They will all just disappear
    So let it go, let go

    'Cause what we hold within our hands
    Will quickly turn to smoke and sand
    So let it go, let it fade, let it slide and slip away
    And may your soul be at rest
    Rich in Love and rich in truth and truly blessed
    Truly penniless

     

     

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 6:31pm

    Canuck21

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    How Digital Vaccine Passports Pave Way For Unprecedented Surveillance Capitalism

    This Zerohedge article is a must-read. I do not see any escape from this or from getting vaccinated, as that is the basis for the digital identities. I had no idea they were so widespread globally. They will link social security and pension payments to the vaccine passports. This is the fascist jackboot of a Nazi wet dream come true. 

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/public-health-or-private-wealth-how-digital-vaccine-passports-pave-way-unprecedented

     

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 6:51pm

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    brushhog said:

     I do not see any escape from this or from getting vaccinated, as that is the basis for the digital identities.

    Sounds like despair and defeatism. Alternatively, I dont see anyway for them to get every person vaccinated. In fact I am 100% positive that it is impossible. Here's a quote that always makes me feel good when I feel overwhelmed;

     

    "Im an old man and have known a great many troubles, most of which have never happened" -Mark Twain

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 7:04pm

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    Who’s In Charge??

    Obama made an interesting Statement on camera.  (end of this video) https://www.foxnews.com/media/judge-jeanine-reveals-who-she-believes-is-running-the-white-house

    Hillary Clinton demands Boris mandate vaccines and sack all those who refuse.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1510678/hillary-clinton-andrew-marr-mandate-vaccine-passports-covid-anti-vaxxers-boris-johnson-vn

    Is Hillary going to get appointed under Kamala Harris or worse??

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 7:10pm

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    Unbanking

    That's what Adolph tried. 

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 7:23pm

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    Brushhog

    You're in the States where there is far more opposition. Here in Canada the lemmings are running towards the Cliff of Happiness as fast as their little feet will carry them. Have you read the article?

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 7:27pm

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    Guilt tripping to the max.

    The Great Guilt Trip.

    Abrahamism demands that you are riddled with guilt.

    Get off your knees. We are a Great People,

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 7:46pm

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    brushhog said:

    Yes Canuck I saw that article this morning. I know the lemmings are running for the cliff but you dont have to, and there are others in Canada who share your position.

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 7:58pm

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    The WEF forum video.

    What a misguided bit of hubris.

    Mars is a deadly place. We are not going to the surface of any planet, knuckleheads. We will, like the people who built the moon, be making our own worlds. In the Void. We will be free to choose to make them Heavens or Hells. For that is the desire of the Wr-alda.

    And there is no need, Claus, to go looking for Aliens. They are already here; all sorts of Aliens come and go as they please. But first you will have to kneel before the evidence. Stupid old man.

    And, stupid old Man, the Cosmos bears absolutely no resemblance to the Model that you bear in your head. Nope, Gravity is not "Bent Nothingness." Nope, Stars are not isolated nuclear fireballs in the sky. They are powered, nay Dominated, by Birkland currents. Even the very Galaxies themselves obey the Birkland Currents.

    Stupid old man, getting dressed in fancy clothes wont disguise you as a Great Sage. You are as ignorant. Only your death will bring your enlightenment. Go home to suck your gums in a comfortable rocking chair.

    No last Great Hurrah for you.

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 8:07pm

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    Brushhog

    So here's a scenario. You're unjabbed. There's a "crisis" in January and the power goes out. It's minus 25 outside. You go to the government rescue shelter. Sure, you can come in, but only if you get the jab. 

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 8:45pm

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    Thoughts on Money

    I am no great thinker. But I can follow the bouncing ball. (Sometimes). 

    It must be clear to anyone that, for instance, a great electrical plant using waterpower might well be erected in the following unexceptional manner:

    The Government introduces a bill in the legislative council for exploiting the waterpower of Bavaria, Saxony, etc., by satisfying all economic requirements. The local Diet, or other body, decides on construction, empowers the finance minister or the State Bank to issue a series of banknotes, marked specially to show that they are fully covered by the new works under contemplation. These notes are supported by the combined credit of the State or the Reich. No one can show any objection on the score of inflation. Construction takes place on the additional credit granted by the council representing the nation, and the notes become legal tender like the rest.

    When the work is completed, nitrates or electricity are supplied to customers against this money, and in a few years the issue can be recalled and destroyed. Result: The State, the nation has instituted a new work,

    Feder, Gottfried. The Program of the Party of Hitler: The National Socialist German Workers' Party and Its General Conceptions . Ostara Publishing. Kindle Edition.

    Be aware that the Banksters are venomous snakes. 

     

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 8:52pm

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    She'd Paint A Big Red Target On Her Back

    RHuk wrote:

    Is Hillary going to get appointed under Kamala Harris or worse??

    Who could be worse than Hillary? If Harris gets her dream job as POTUS, she'd be tempting fate to appoint Hillary to the position that's just one more Arkancide away from her ultimate dream job. Besides, it would have to get through the evenly split Senate. Given all the dissatisfaction toward Sleepy Joe in polls and given that mid-term elections generally favor the party out of power, the evenly split Senate will likely have a GOP majority. Do you really think Senate Republicans would allow that? She is more feared than Darth Vader.

    When Spiro Agnew resigned the VP position under Richard Nixon, congress was controlled by Democrats. They had to allow someone to be chosen for VP. (Back then, the media asked tough questions and demanded answers.) The Democrats wanted to pick someone who was politically weak enough to be beaten in 1976. They negotiated with Nixon to get Gerald Ford - who fit that bill perfectly. That strategy worked for them. As such, some formulation of that same strategy will be adopted by the Senate. I'd expect a political milk-toast to emerge as Harris' VP.

    No matter what, don't expect any action on this front for the next 15 months ... regardless of Sleepy Joe's abilities to carry forth the demands of the Office.

    Grover

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 8:57pm

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    unrepentant cynic said:

    RE:

    The average American (and most first-worlders) could not imagine life without the following:

    • Bank Account
    • Credit Card
    • Mobile Phone
    • Free/Pay Television (including Netflix, et al)
    • Internet
    • Online Retailers
    • Social Media

    Cell phones are helpful when you are traveling. The internet is good for trying to answer random trivial questions immediately.

    As for the rest... social media leads to depression. Television makes life worse. Credit cards lead to debt. Online retailers make some overspend and create unhappiness when you can't afford something you want. Bank accounts only benefit the bankers; they're basically kennels that you pay for to keep your cash. 

    It's easy to imagine life without those things; the only ones the precede 1985 are banks and  television.

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 9:26pm

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    brushhog said:

    So here's a scenario. You're unjabbed. There's a "crisis" in January and the power goes out. It's minus 25 outside. You go to the government rescue shelter. Sure, you can come in, but only if you get the jab.

    I heat with wood from two woodstoves in my house so not really an issue. In such a scenario I'd light some candles, throw a few logs on the fire and carry on. I live in the country, that happens all the time. They'll have to do ALOT better than that.

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  • Tue, Oct 26, 2021 - 11:57pm

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    sebastian said:

    Likewise here brushhog, 

    power went out for a couple of days just thus week. Fire and candles and a guitar. That being said they may not need 100% compliance... perhaps high 90s is good enough. I could be in my property for a good long while and be just fine. The ladies in my life need more of a broader range of activities. My wife is going to school now and has gotten a job offer to sub at the schools while she finishes her schooling. Likely she will need the jab... I’m hoping she can hold out for 6 months to a year without getting out there. The lack of socializing is hard on her. It’s enough for her knowing this vaxx could cause serious harm but she is still considering it. Coercion is a very powerful weapon :-/

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  • Wed, Oct 27, 2021 - 7:17am

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    Yeah I agree that women seem to need to socialize much more than men. I could stay on my farm permanently for the rest of my life, never leave, and it would be just fine. My wife has to go out, even if its just to the store, everyday.

    Still she's very determined not to take the shot and so far her job says they will not require it

    That being said they may not need 100% compliance... perhaps high 90s is good enough

    I agree with this, in fact I suspect that they dont WANT 100%. In order to have a vax pass system and roll out their new "reset" they need somebody to protect against. If 100% are vaxxed....who needs a vaxx pass?

    Of course I can't control what other people do, I only have control over my own actions and those of my family [ to some extent ]. Im going to do everything in my power to avoid the shot. As such I am making plans to be cut off from "society" [ I hate that word because it implies everyone is of the same mind ];

     

    If I cant go to the store, who will do my shopping [ got that covered ]?

    If I cant have a bank account, how can I pay my important bills [ working on it]?

    If I, or one of my family members, need medical attention and are refused do to being unvaxxed, what will I do? [ Im stock piling medications. Im on an exercise regimen and intermittent fasting along with vitamin D/C/zinc/multi ]

    As for food, water, heat, power, etc. Ive got most of that covered through my general homesteading lifestyle.

    The one thing Im not too sure about is asset protection, which might include unbanking, inflation hedges, and other legal liability protections I mentioned earlier...trusts, incorporating, proxies, Pms, crypto, etc, etc.. I want to do everything in my power to LEGALLY position myself for maximum financial protection in the coming days.

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  • Wed, Oct 27, 2021 - 9:21am

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    Unbanking....

    Our main asset is soil and water. Have a little pm's on hand and a little lead and brass, a good bit of our garden went on the shelf this year. As long as the sun shines we have power and a chainsaw will keep us warm this winter. This is a family back up plan, working on finishing up a small off grid solar build.

    Collapse is a natural function in any species, one that we have been preparing for. Funny that I am mentally ready for that natural function, but very disturbed my the thought of someone pushing me down the stairs.

    Just checked the WEF sight and our bank is a featured partner, why don't have comfort in that discovery?

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  • Wed, Oct 27, 2021 - 11:49am

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    Paying property taxes is the single most difficult thing to protect...

    We live in a place that is 3-4 hours drive from a major city, each way is over mountain passes.  One is closed in the winter due to numerous avalanche chutes onto the highway.  The county seat is an hour away, also over a mountain pass.   Even so, we are the destination for urban escapees, especially those with money who can work remotely (in some parts of the valley).  

    This is driving our property taxes up and up.  Even though my state, WA, has a partial control on the rise of the rate, the actual values are going through the roof.   Our taxes went up 14% last year.

    I've looked at the state revenue website and talked with a resident who has worked a lot with local share of property taxes, and have only found partial answers, and much of it is hard to understand.  My question is this, in a deflationary time, would property values go down, or would they hold?  Let's imagine the worst...very, very expensive gas and propane, intermittent power from hydro due to staffing and maintenance and selling it to CA, and intermittent deliveries to grocery, feed and hardware stores.  

    We are fairly resilient already.  We have heated our small house with wood only, for 10 years.  We have an off grid option to run the well from the solar panels.  We have a 3000sf garden that includes flour corn, potatoes, winter squash and dried beans, plus lots of other veggies, and apples, pears, stone fruits, and berries.  We keep chickens for eggs. We have neighbors who raise pork, chicken and beef.  We have our own flock of sheep who live on local hay in the winter.  We have a deep pantry and topped up meds/supplements and all.  

    We have had power and internet outages here for as long as 9 days, due to wildfire, and shorter times due to downed wires.   We have had gas up to $5/gallon, so far.  And we were fine during those times.

    But paying the property taxes is the killer.  Not only rising cost, but also, potential controls on bank withdrawals.     So...can deflation come to the rescue?  And maybe a little cash cropping on the side?  Does cash become illegal?  And so on....   Thanks in advance.   

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  • Wed, Oct 27, 2021 - 12:32pm

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    brushhog said:

    But paying the property taxes is the killer.  Not only rising cost, but also, potential controls on bank withdrawals.     So...can deflation come to the rescue?  And maybe a little cash cropping on the side?  Does cash become illegal?  And so on....   Thanks in advance.

     

    Deflation absolutely can and should come to the rescue. If your taxes are based on the value of your home...and that value goes up or down, so should your property taxes. I dont know where you live but in my state you can grieve your taxes every year...that is you can demonstrate that your value has gone down and therefore your taxes should.

     

    There are law firms that are dedicated strictly to grieving taxes. My understanding is that you will usually win if you present your grievance properly.

     

    The taxes will always automatically go up, but you'll generally have to fight to get them down. The only exception to that rule that Ive ever experienced was living in Arizona during the recession....they actually lowered my taxes automatically.

     

    As far as bank payments, etc. I'm considering placing my farm into a family trust, in which case, technically I'd no longer own it. The trust would own it and the trustee [ usually a lawyer or accountant ] would make the payments out of the trust. I think it might be a good idea for many reasons...ie protection from liability, etc But also solve the problem of a personal bank restriction due to some great reset scheme.

     

    Cash crop...absolutely. I have a good relationship with a logger who has rotationally thinned my wood lot to my specifications, it generally pays the taxes [ or at least helps alot ]. The good news there, usually as inflation and taxes rise, timber prices rise too.

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  • Fri, Oct 29, 2021 - 11:46am

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    Quote attributed to Klaus Schwab

    Hello Hans,

    Did you receive a reply from "Phil" or anybody else to your question as to the origin of this quote?

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  • Fri, Oct 29, 2021 - 12:02pm

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    abrahamlincoln said:

    Ok...thx for the clarification

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  • Fri, Oct 29, 2021 - 12:34pm

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    BrushHog

    May I inquire as to the question of "security"?...as in, what measures can be taken to "retain" your independence?...and, have you taken any or do you feel it unnecessary?  For example,...here I am, actively taking steps to become more resilient...how do I support that resiliency from those who may feel they need it more then I?..."social capital"? as mentioned by CM?...will that be enough?  Just me tossing questions about...I respect your accomplishments and folk like you continue to galvanize me in pursuing my own resiliency.  Thx for sharing the great dialogue between yourself and Canuck21

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  • Sat, Oct 30, 2021 - 1:05pm

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    djf said:

    Bitcoin developers are working on the lightning network which could solve the energy problem. Also a lot of cryptos are moving to proof of stake model which required a fraction of the electricity. Cardano, Ethereum, Polkadot etc.
    lightning network - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBh4DcM-0pg
    proof of stake - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3EFi_POhps&t=2s

    Crypto can also be mined with geothermal energy. There are plans in El Salvador to put crypto mining operations near volcanos. These mining operation dont have to be staffed with many people so this could work. And it's just one solution of many to come.
    https://nypost.com/2021/06/11/el-salvador-volcanoes-to-power-bitcoin-mining/

     

    Yes I agree that there are whales right now in crypto...but I think your missing the point. The power of the blockchain is that it makes it harder for rent seekers to work within the system. If an algorithm can take the place of a bank vault, than rent seeking bankers can't extract fees  from the people anymore. The people can get a better price on the blockchain...and they will because it's the path of least resistance. And this isn't limited to just banks...it's everything!! Like a blockchain Amazon where jeff bezos is an algorithm. The blockchain has the potential to greatly reduce inequality but you can never eliminate it. And probably in 100 years we'll get another wealth concentration followed by a revolution. Thats the arc of history. But to dismiss the blockchain because of some whales is to miss the forest for the trees...in my opinion.

     

     

    The Bitcoin crowd doesn't get it, either, in my opinion. I've asked how they use it without access to energy? Crickets. I've asked how it avoids the systemic usury and centripetal velocity? Again, crickets. Guess what? Nunya Bitcoin enthusiasts have as much as the whales do (which are now countries, btw).

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  • Wed, Nov 10, 2021 - 12:47am

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    On the plus side…

    If we dare to apply systems thinking, we can visualize the that the “master” crowd does not have the ability to develop solutions, only problems and propaganda. It‘s one thing to assert that no fossil fuels will be used. Yet…

    Are there any viable plans to satisfy an energy hungry world? Something simple would suffice:

    > current energy requirements for a ‘typical’ household - Watts, MW, GW

    > future energy, car chargers will sharply drive demand

    > the only viable solution is going to be nuclear. No need to panic, the physics has matured. 4th generation nuclear is safe (cannot go critical), when thorium reactors come online very little fissile material is created, newer reactors can eat the waste of older reactors. Dr. David Ruzic University of Illinois Urbana Champagne developed a course that covers all forms of energy production. The course can be audited free on Coursera or  seen on YouTube by searching for IllinoisEnergyProf 

    People will put up with a lot… but when one tries to pry the smartphone, tablet, laptop etc. form the hands of billions who have put these devices at the center of their worlds… even the disgusting overlords will be in serious trouble. Another aspect of systems thinking that was overlooked.  The dopamine addiction that seemed like a good idea for control is in fact an addiction. Addicts will literally do anything to get their fix.

    As energy become sketchy, (green energy in the form of wind & solar have *NO* chance of meeting energy demands), the revolution will begin.  

    Again applying systems thinking, an unexpected negative side effect of trying to deploy 600,000 massive windmills and miles of solar farms… that pesky thing called the ecosystem will being to erode.. THIS is likely an existential threat.  Making a few degrees warmer and Obama’s 14 million dollar house flood (does he really believe climate change is an issue and still by beachfront?)

    When chaos becomes the norm, I rather doubt the ability of the masters to have the ability to meet their basic needs once the slaves have fled.

    As with most things, the story is rather complex. It should make a great movie

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  • Sun, Nov 14, 2021 - 5:31am

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    powerg said:

    Wow, Never thought this website would become a far out fearmongering far right, hating conspiracy theory pusher. What happened to you Dr. Martenson?

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  • Sun, Nov 14, 2021 - 8:33am

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    Nice first Post, Erg.

    Stick around; You might learn something.

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  • Sun, Nov 14, 2021 - 9:02am

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    mary said:

    wow..that was an eye opener. i knew this was coming but it's moving much faster then i though. i pray for our youth..what will happen  to them..sheesh..

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  • Sun, Nov 14, 2021 - 9:05am

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    Replying to powerg said: (#53)

    powerg,

    You wrote:

    Wow, Never thought this website would become a far out fearmongering far right, hating conspiracy theory pusher. What happened to you Dr. Martenson?

    Could you demonstrate, with examples from posts and articles: 1) what you consider "fear mongering, far right, hating, conspiracy theory pusher," and, 2) why you think Chris Martinson has gone wrong in some way?

    There are a lot of people here who do not agree with such allegations and would be willing to address and debate any fact-based contentions to the contrary.

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  • Sun, Nov 14, 2021 - 9:42am

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    mary said:

    Very good info. I have been working on this list too. still thinking. let me know if you come up with more good ideas. One thing is if someone you trust has had the shot then they could do all the stuff and own the stuff that we wont be able too if not vaxxed. I still think people will band together and trade under the  watchful evil eyes..We just have to find them.

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  • Sun, Nov 14, 2021 - 12:32pm

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    I reject being called far right

    1. as a registered independent I reject being called far right! 2. I don’t really hate anyone. There are some people I dislike. There are others that I would rather not spend any time with. Hate is a very strong word.

    3. Now for the conspiracy theories, its hard to call them that with so many turning out to be true lately.  

     

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  • Sun, Nov 14, 2021 - 1:56pm

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    Response to Mysterymet

    Most people aren't happy without putting ideas, events, and others into square boxes. In the case of "political" classifications, this need to "stamp" everyone is massively supported and encouraged by TPTB.

    In truth, since politics CANNOT be reasonably segregated with less than two axes (and probably more like 10 or more, when you properly respect nuances), the process of "labelling" others more tellingly labels the person doing the labelling.  It identifies the labeler as as either low-IQ, grossly ignorant by choice, or a provocateur/minion of deception.

    To identify yourself as "independent" should be enough -- what could be better sign of intelligence and character than an independent thinker?   However, that doesn't satisfy a nation where the majority regard picking a football team to support and picking a political party to support as effectively equivalent -- and generally brain dead -- enterprises.   I don't waste my time voting for ANY team sport;  although I can vote against a team quite easily once I get a handle on the politics or ethics being practiced by the team members in general.  If there are three demonstrable racists on a basketball team -- such as a cabal of BLM touting members or KKK members (functionally equivalent, to my mind) -- I will actively support the racist team losing and, ideally, going bankrupt.

    With "politics" my metrics are

    (1) The Constitution and Rule of Law.  I have a lot less concern about any amendment added after the Bill of Rights, as most of these are badly written and were put in place by enemies of the Constitution, as best I can determine;  however even latter laws and regulations are better than "interpreting" by political winds -- which should be a crime of high magnitude, IMO.  I like rules clearly delineated, so everyone can know exactly what they are, and *100%* enforced with everyone (well, doubly so against those who write and enforce the rules).What I've noticed is that rather few who identify as either Republican or Democrat care much about the Constitution. (Although there currently seems to be a trend, for "Conservatives" to favor "conserving" the Constitution, I have my doubts about how heartfelt that actually is when people can't even cite the Amendments intelligently, nor define a republic as distinct from a democracy, and haven't a clue about Polybius).

    What I have also noticed, is that MOST people who identify with EITHER political party seem oddly complacent with endless foreign wars on thin pretense.  I have been known to prefer, and sometimes actively support, ANYONE who seems clear and congruent about avoiding initiation of foreign violence.

    Unfortunately, finding a candidate who has a clear and congruent position FOR Constitutional government and AGAINST initiating (including provoking or extending) foreign wars is remarkably difficult.  So, generally, I follow the rule: "Don't vote.  It only encourages them."  If pressed, I will sometimes say I am libertarian (lower case, as I don't support the party).

    More recently, I have been getting a better response by saying I can't vote for anyone who supports killing brown people in foreign wars."  That's why I hated. Hillary.  That's why I hated Bush.

    That seems to shut up a lot of ignoramuses and hypocrites, who only vote by "basketball team" narrative du jour. Their ideologue brains proceed to have something that looks like a short circuit, as their eyes jerk around in their heads for a few seconds, and their tongues pause wagging.

    That, in turn, usually gets me off the hook I would otherwise be in if I only said I was "independent" (and presumably available for conversion).  It did cause a little problem with Bernie supporters, though, I confess;   in response to that I say I appreciate Bernie's "integrity", and his support of "Occupy Wall Street" but I am still unsure about his position on the Constitution.

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  • Sun, Nov 14, 2021 - 2:18pm

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    Land Grab for Climate

    https://tessa.substack.com/p/land-grab-for-climate

    Another great analysis by the ever astute Tessa Lena

    ... a large amount of land is currently being confiscated from American farmers in the Midwest, using eminent domain. The farmers are given an option to accept a modest compensation and go away “voluntarily”—but if not, they are threatened with the prospect of losing their land anyway under eminent domain.

    This is done to give way to a massive carbon sequestration pipeline (actually, two of them) and processing facilities going through the heart of the Corn Belt. (You guessed it, this is done in the name of “saving the planet.”) ...

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  • Sun, Nov 14, 2021 - 3:27pm

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    One way to lower property taxes in WA state...

    If you are over 61 years old with low income or disabled:

    https://www.spokanecounty.org/DocumentCenter/View/29811/Senior-Exemption-Brochure 

    It will be difficult for the the state to abolish this law as it would force many seniors out of their homes. At one point in my life I considered high income to be a badge of honor. Now I see it as equating to a large ecological footprint and the lack of time to discover what is important in life...

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