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    Weapons Of Mass Deception

    How politicians & marketers are hacking our psychological vulnerabilities
    by Adam Taggart

    Friday, November 13, 2020, 6:39 PM

One of the most-watched documentaries on Netflix right now is The Social Dilemma, an exposé of how Big Tech is manipulating our thinking and behavior in ways both grand and minute. And most of the time, we’re completely oblivious to it.

These companies prey upon the weaknesses in our cerebral programming; using our anxieties, our hopes, and our brain’s craving for dopamine to shepherd us into performing actions desired by their advertisers — whether it’s consuming certain content, buying certain products, or voting a certain way.

This is a massive social issue that we’re only beginning to become aware of as a society. How much more control do these companies wield over our thoughts and behavior than we currently realize? How much is acceptable? How do we protect ourselves going forward?

Addressing and attempting to “unwire” ourselves from their programming efforts won’t be easy — as any parent who has tried to wean their child off of social media for even a few days (or hours!) already knows.

But as big of an issue as this is, it’s not new, nor is it limited to the Tech sector. Marketers and politicians have been intentionally exploiting our evolutionary wiring for decades, in order to influence us to do their bidding.

The Psychology Of Persuasion

One of the best books explaining the psychology behind this manipulation is Influence: The Psychology Of Persuasion by Robert Cialdini.

It’s a remarkable book. I highly recommend everyone read it in order to understand the vast minefield of psychological traps being set for us on a daily basis.

Cialdini begins the book by revealing how all animal species, humans included, have evolved stereotypical behavioral “shortcuts” to certain stimuli. We’ve done so because life is (increasingly) complex, and these standardized responses convey an evolutionary advantage.

At least they used to.

Cialdini refers to these fixed-action patterns as the click, whirr effect. When they’re triggered, it’s as if a button has been pressed in our brains (click!) that then causes us, robot-like, to perform a standard sequence of behaviors (whirrr!).

Click! Spot a potential predator? Whirr! Increase heart and breathing rates, dialate pupils, tense up muscles, secrete adrenaline, prepare to fight/flee.

That kind of pre-programmed automatic response served our hunter-gatherer ancestors well. Those with a strong click, whirr response to predators survived at a higher rate than those without.

But especially in today’s modern world, far from the African savannas early humans evolved upon, many of these fixed-action patterns don’t convey the same advantages. In fact, they can be exploited against us.

The Turkey And The Polecat

A good non-human example of this is a study conducted by animal behavioralist M.W. Fox in the 1970s.

Mother turkeys have a very strong click, whirr response to polecats. A polecat is a type of weasel, who loves eating turkey chicks. So when a mother turkey sees a polecat, even a stuffed one held by a researcher, she flies into a berserker rage, doing her utmost to claw and peck the intruder to death.

But a mother turkey also has a strong click, whirr response to the “cheep, cheep” sound her chicks make. When she hears it, she goes into nurture mode: feeding, tending, warming and cleaning them.

It is so strong, in fact, that it overpowers her programming against the polecat predator. As mentioned, when a stuffed polecat is placed in sight, she will attack it viscously instantly. BUT, if a recorder is placed inside the stuffed polecat that reproduces the “cheep, cheep” of a chick, the mother turkey will completely change her behavior. Instead of attacking, she will start nurturing the polecat; huddling it alongside her chicks and trying to feed and clean it.

Her natural pre-programmed defense against the polecat has been hacked. And she now acts in its best interest, not her own.

We’ve Been Hacked!

Sure, you might be thinking, that’s a turkey. I’m a heck of a lot smarter than a dumb bird. Nobody can hoodwink me like that.

Sadly, says Cialdini, that’s not the case.

Humans have just as many of these fixed-action patterns (if not more due our social complexity) baked into our cerebral wiring.

In fact, Cialdini thinks we may be even more vulnerable than the turkey because our species lives in arguably the most rapidly moving and complex environment that has ever existed on the planet. We need these “shortcuts” more than ever to persevere through the complexity.

And here’s the danger: just like M.W. Fox discovered he could override the turkey’s decision-making, policymakers and marketers have mastered the science of hijacking ours.

There is a litany of fixed-action responses baked into the human mind. That’s the basis of Cialdini’s book. He details out what they are, along with this warning: Those seeking power and profit will exploit our ignorance of these triggers against us.

Not convinced? Here are just two examples.

Expensive = Good

A widely-held mental shortcut is that “expensive = good”. And our daily experience generally reinforces this belief.

A new Tesla costs more than a used AMC Gremlin. A suite at the Ritz-Carlton costs more than a Motel 6 bunkroom. Nicer, higher-quality goods and services typically come at a higher price.

Cialdini cites an unintentional experiment where a jeweler became frustrated trying to move some of her excess turquoise inventory during the height of tourist season. She had tried merchandizing it prominently in the highest-trafficked place in the store and incentivizing her staff to push the product. But nothing was working.

In defeat, as she was heading out for a brief business trip, she left a note to her store manager instructing that the price be dropped by half.

Upon returning a few days later, she was pleasantly shocked to learn that all of the turquoise had been sold.

But even more shocking was the discovery that her instructions had been mistakenly misinterpreted. Instead of cutting the price of the turquoise in half, her store manager had doubled it.

The customers, seeing a notably higher price for the jewelry, simply concluded that it must be more valuable. And therefore more desirable. Enough to influence them to pull out their wallets and buy it.

While unintentional in this example, Cialdini rattles off numerous instances where this “expensive = good” click, whirr response (and endless variations on it) are explicitly used by retailers to dupe us into making purchases we otherwise wouldn’t under normal circumstances.

The Power Of ‘Because’

When someone requests a favor of us, we’re much more likely to comply if they provide a reason why they’re asking.

Interestingly, it’s not the validity of the reason that matters. Only the simple fact that it’s offered does.

We’re pretty much willing to rationalize ANY reason to explain our willingness to comply.

Cialdini refers to a study that illustrates this nicely using a copy machine.

When there’s a line at the machine, someone cutting to the front and asking “Excuse me, I have five pages. May I use the copier because I’m in a rush?” experiences a 94% success rate. Almost everyone will allow them to cut ahead.

However, when “because I’m in a rush” is dropped from the excuse, the success rate drops to only 60%. Without an offered reason, fewer people are willing to give up their priority in line.

Now here’s where it gets interesting. Pretty much ANY reason will suffice, no matter how weak or irrelevant.

When the script is changed to “Excuse me, I have five pages. May I use the copier because I have to make some copies?”, the success rate jumps back up to 93%.

It turns out that the word “because…” sets off a powerful click, whirr fixed-action response for humans. It’s a mental shortcut that tells us “I should do what this person asks because they have a good reason”.

Wonder why food retailers tell us to buy their product “because it’s fortified with essential vitamins and minerals”? Or why cosmetics giant L’Oreal’s brand slogan is “Because you’re worth it”? Or why politicians tell us embrace a new policy of theirs “because it’s the right thing to do”?

They’re intentionally pressing the click, whirr button of their target audience in attempt to get as many people as they can to act in the way they want them to.

How many times each and every day is your button being pressed by external actors? How many times are they successful in influencing your thoughts or behavior?

And how sure are you of your answer? By definition we’re usually unconscious of these fixed-action patterns, rationalizing our behavior after the fact.

Think Twice When Encouraged To “Act Now”

In today’s society — where corporate cartels control nearly every business sector, where 90% of media outlets are owned by six companies, where powerful special interests fund and control our political parties, where Big Data and social media collect & commercialize our personal information — we are subject to the highest degree of the most-sophisticated psychological manipulation in the history of any species.

To avoid becoming unwitting victims, it’s essential that we first understand the hacks being used against us so that we can recognize them and take steps de-fuse their power over us.

This won’t be easy.

Today’s manipulation has been honed over decades and leverages the latest science and technology. It’s specifically designed to appeal to our emotions, accentuate our fears and inflame our desires. It’s often wrapped in a false morality intended to make us believe resisting it is unethical.

Take the Great Reset which the world powers (World Economic Forum, IMF, etc) are advocating so forcefully for right now. It recommends a very specific set of actions for countries to start imposing onto their citizens, presented under the noble cause of securing a sustainable future for the planet.

How much of what the Great Reset recommends is actually necessary and in our best interest? And how much serves the selfish interests of those powers promoting it?

We can’t tackle these important questions if we simply allow our click, whirr buttons to force us to robotically comply when pressed.

We need to recognize and resist the mental manipulation. And only then evaluate the situation and decide our course of action.

In Part 2: Avoiding 5 Of The Most Powerful Psychological Manipulations we reveal a host of the most influential psychological hacks — including the powers of the contrast principle, the reciprocity principle, projected authority, commitment & consistency, and social proof — being used against us.

As they say, forewarned is forearmed. By learning the science underlying these manipulations, we learn how to defend against and de-fuse their power over us.

Click here to read Part 2 of this report (free executive summary, enrollment required for full access).

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  • Fri, Nov 13, 2020 - 7:06pm

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    nordicjack

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    What I really would like to do.

    First, all of this chronic bombardment by tech and media, is by far the most psychological warfare I have ever seen.

    Personally,  if I could, and I could have at one time, but missed that opportunity and regret it, would have just unplugged myself from the matrix all together.

    Buy yourself a nice plot of land in rural america, that has some natural resources nearby.  And forget the phone, and the rest of it.   Or go hang with the Amish or something similar.

    Though there are states and laws, that are now in effect in some municipalities that actually it is illegal to live off the grid, harvest your own rain water etc..  Hard to believe but yeah....  It goes to show how far gone we actually are.. You need to dig deeper than ever spiritually to make it.  It takes a strength greater than ever.    I am not sure how the younger generation will do it or manage.. Oh yeah the other option is just conformity with the system..

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  • Fri, Nov 13, 2020 - 9:21pm

    MKI

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    bombardment by tech and media

    I would have just unplugged myself from the matrix all together...a nice plot of land in rural america

    Don't get this. It's easy to live "on the grid" yet ditch social media/TV. Done it for decades. Also, having lived both off and on the grid, we find it easier to sidestep the "matrix" on the grid than off just due to the conveniences and options the grid offers:

    1. Ditch TV/radio/social media/smartphone lifestyle; only use "pull" media. Live life, don't watch it on a screen.

    2. Eat only whole food you cook from scratch.

    3. Move within biking distance of work/play.

    4. If children, homeschool.

    5. Own a small house; house-hack (rent part of it out) if needed to make the payments.

    I am not sure how the younger generation will do it or manage.

    The younger generation seems far more receptive to a non-materialistic, active lifestyle and a media boycott than the older generations (we're GenX). Hence, our friends tend to slant young. Our theory is the unfair economy leaves younger people more open-minded to countercultural lifestyles. YMMV.

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  • Sat, Nov 14, 2020 - 1:26am

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    Mark Sircus

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    The Psychology of Madness

    Adam its refreshing to come to Peak Prosperity....open minds and wisdom, which is in short supply everywhere these days. I think Mish is a good example of a mind dragged down into the muck of self-righteous and delete and ban madness....so few can even listen to anything they disagree with....though we have always been shorthanded in the listening department.....

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  • Sat, Nov 14, 2020 - 2:44am

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    Mark Sircus

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    Dark Days Dead Ahead

    I linked to this essay in the beginning of a essay I am working on called Dark Days Ahead...

    There is something extraordinarily chilling about what is happening to the human race.  The world is falling into the abyss. It has not entirely sunk in yet, but it will soon. A nightmare darker than our worst dreams are already underway. "Get ready for the biggest collapse in the history of mankind," writes respected economist Egon von Greyerz. "It will be devastating and reach all parts of society, economic, financial, political & social."

    Club Orlov makes it personal for Americans saying at the end of a great read, "The collapse of the USA will make the collapse of the USSR look like a stroll through a leafy park and a boat ride on a placid pond." It is challenging, to say the least, to accept such a collapse with equanimity and poise. But we must steel ourselves emotionally, mentally, and spiritually for the dark times ahead.

    The oligarchy, the press, the digital monster companies are in firm command of the narrative, meaning they have gained control over most minds. They let us know what they want us to know, so count on not knowing what is going on. Their biggest tool, which few plug into, is the mainstream's ability to remove big subjects from view. Completely! Many things they discard calling contrarian views as conspiracy or fake news. But other things like 5G is never mentioned at all. Neither is cold climate change, grand solar minimums, and mini ice-ages said, so they are entirely off the radar.

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  • Sat, Nov 14, 2020 - 6:00am

    Rootman

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    Rootman said:

    All this stuff is available, most within this community, even totally different perspectives.

    My perspective:I studied earth science and biology, so even not being a climatologist, I know something about this stuff.  I like the critical mainstream science approach, but think everything should be up for discussion. Only when data are questioned or cherry picked stops the dialogue, same is true for SARS-2.

     

    Cold climate change: interesting wording! Never came across that one.

    A lot of insights come from this paper:

    https://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/abs/ha04710s.html

    -Greenland ice sheets will melt away for a great deal, however , this takes many centuries. After this century sea levels will start rising a lot. We will lose a lot of fertile ground, as they are mostly situated in coastal areas.  Even if salvaged, salination will degrade it. Coastal cities will have to be abandoned.  But real valuable and historic real estate can be protected by dykes and water works.

    - All this cold, fresh melt water will drastically slow down the thermo haline circulation. Hansen predicts a nasty cooling (I hate cold) for the coming centuries in the N Atlantic, while the rest of the world will mostly warm up.

    Solar minimum:  There is hardly any understanding yet about long term solar cycles. So this is just speculation considering only 2 recent cycles.  Same about mini ice ages, except for the first point, mega-volcanic activity (unpredictable yet) or nuclear winters, asteroids etc.

     

    Of course there are more viewpoints, although I would recommend disqualifying those of lobbyists, wether from big oil/ coal or the one for carbon credits, biomass and electric cars.

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  • Sat, Nov 14, 2020 - 6:22am

    Rootman

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    Rootman said:

    Many of the worries are alarmist: Most city housing and average buildings have a life span less, or much less than a century.  OK, at the end of this century, no rebuilding will take place, as new buildings in low lying areas will become uninsurable.  If the global population will half, no problem will occur, at all!

    Even so:  my plans of buying property are: A traditional village farm house at least 100 m (300 ft) above sea level. As a European, I want to move to the Mediterrean.  Apart from Covid, these (more traditional) people all become 100 years old, their kitchen is the best, and their culture is rich, warm and great!

    And I say to my 2 US daughters:  If it don't work out, you can always come to me and take over the farm!  (which won't happen: as millenials, they are very urban!)

     

    As a whole it will warm up and dry out, but there will be always very good and promising places.  I expect a nasty chill in N Europe from 2100 until the year 2525

     

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  • Sat, Nov 14, 2020 - 7:02am

    Mark Sircus

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    Cold Climate Change

    https://coldclimatechange.com/

    I have written well over a 100 essays on the subject...we can only wish for global warming but we are not going to get it.....but what we are already getting is shorter growing seasons and you know what that means right?

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  • Sat, Nov 14, 2020 - 7:52am

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    David McKenney

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    Only one time - now

    How many times, in the total history of the world, has an industrial economy been built that covers most of the earth and burns most of the hydrocarbons stored down under? How long did it take to produce those fuels (ancient sunshine) and how long did it take to burn them? Looks like something unique is about to happen. This has happened only once. Or did I miss something?

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  • Sat, Nov 14, 2020 - 8:00am

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    2retired

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    2retired said:

    Our life spans are too short to appreciate the 'normal' volatility in climate. Tree rings over the past hundreds and thousands of years show (in my samples) a six fold variation in growth rates, dramatic changes often sustained over a century(s), then shifting. In very large trees with known site origins, climate shifts are the variable. This year the snow is early (again) and low on the mountains, sigh, I had planned for more warmth in my retirement.

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  • Sat, Nov 14, 2020 - 8:46am

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    I have learned from Greta Thunberg

    I don’t necessarily share her entire perspective, but her willingness to promote green lifestyle changes, like a vegan diet and not flying are a refreshing example of “do as I do,” vs “do as I say.”

    Perhaps part of the answer will come from youth, who have had fewer years of relentless programming.

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  • Sat, Nov 14, 2020 - 8:52am

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    The Century of Self

    The start of "modern" mind control

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  • Sat, Nov 14, 2020 - 9:15am

    Bradford

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    Back when Nike came up with the marketing campaign...

    "Just, do it!" (win at all costs, screw sportsmanship, the ends always justify the means.) That's when I decided to get off of their immoral boat.

    And it sort of reminds me of this recent quote from Fauci:

    "...because each of our countries have that independent spirit,” he said on stage. “I can understand that, but now is the time to do what you’re told.”

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  • Sat, Nov 14, 2020 - 10:24am

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    David McKenney

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    All about horses

    Let's say you want to catch a wild horse and then ride it. First, you need to "break" it. That takes a while and lots of knowhow.  The wild horse does what it wants. Once broken, it will do what YOU want. The idea is to break its spirit.

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  • Sat, Nov 14, 2020 - 11:35am

    RandomMike

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    RandomMike said:

    Somewhere there is a poem of how a rock might view the passing of time. I remember humans just flashed by.

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  • Sat, Nov 14, 2020 - 1:57pm

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    Mike from Jersey said:

    MKI,

    That is pretty much how I do it. I remember someone trying to sell me a TV package.

    I told her, "I don't watch TV."

    The saleswoman was pretty shocked by that.

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  • Sat, Nov 14, 2020 - 2:34pm

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    brushhog

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    Its never been more important to unplug.

    I dont care where you stand in the political battle...its time to unplug. You already know that deep down, dont you? Of course you do. The problem is you are struggling to do it because you have become addicted to the chemicals released in your blood stream with every new headline.

    Those chemicals arent good chemicals. They arent anti-oxidants, lol. They are inflammatory agents that are poisoning you. There is more than one way to poison a person. It doesnt have to come from something ingested or injected...your body can produce medicine and it can produce poison.

    When you get inflamed mentally, there are a host of physiological changes that take place in your body that are damaging. The problem is that just like a drug, you can become addicted to those chemicals.

    Now if a couple of shmucks like you and me know that, dont you think that those who are bombarding us with this poison 24/7 know that as well? Of course they do. The reality is either A] they know but they dont care because they see the fulfillment of their agenda as more important than our health/wellbeing. OR B] They are intentionally poisoning us to achieve some purpose.

    Either way, its time to turn it off. If you try and find that you can't then you really have a problem, dont you? They say the first step is to admit you have a problem.

    Personally, I have decided not to allow myself to be poisoned any more. Its been a little tough at times. Ive wanted to log on to certain sites to see "what is happening", but as the days go by its gotten easier and easier. Im watching classic movies [ the kind what were made back in the days when movies were designed to entertain, not indoctrinate ], I'm milking my cows and spending more time in the barn. Im shooting my bow, meditating, playing with my son, cutting wood, etc, etc... Thats "whats happening" back to reality and it feels GREAT!

    Come join me. Turn away from the horror show that has been BLARING on every device for nigh on 5 years. Whatever you were going to contribute has already been contributed. Its now out of your hands, time to let go and reclaim your health and life.

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  • Sat, Nov 14, 2020 - 2:46pm

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    Susan7 said:

    My Goodness! They’ve already been programmed quite effectively thanks to public education. Greta is a fearful child who is being exploited by forces far more powerful than she knows.

    per veganism, one has the right to practice whatever cult or religion they’re attracted to but never to enforce or impose it on others.

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  • Sat, Nov 14, 2020 - 3:26pm

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    Redneck Engineer said:

    Greta is a perfect example of manipulative tactics. Someone young is assumed to be innocent and not corrupt, and therefore honest. That's why a lot protests feature little kids parading around advocating for or against things they have no understanding of, at the direction of their parents, teachers, or other adults.

    But young and honest doesn't translate into knowledgeable.

    And I certainly remember lots of children lying when I was a kid.

    The whole thing is an embarrassing mess.  When I see that tactic in use, I write off that side of an argument, because if they had some real firepower to their view they'd present the facts and logic, not appeal to emotions. It's a confession that they have no facts on their side.

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  • Sat, Nov 14, 2020 - 4:47pm

    MKI

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    TV

    I told her, "I don't watch TV"...The saleswoman was pretty shocked by that.

    I've learned to keep my mouth shut. My favorite story here? A coworker asks if I saw "X" last night. I say no. He then asks did I see "Y"? Again I said no. On his third try, I get irritated, "No, none of them, we don't even have a TV". He literally gapes at me and finally asks sympathetically: "You can't afford one?" Remember, we are both working high-paying jobs at that very moment...yet he could not conjure up any reason I don't have a TV except I'm destitute. That's when I realized this was all going to end badly.

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  • Sun, Nov 15, 2020 - 7:19am

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    Selco: Big Circle and Little Circle

    Daisy Luther at TheOrganicPrepper quotes Selco as describing a Big Circle and a Little Circle.

    The Big Circle is the global picture, the international and national geopolitical chess game and the effects of human action on the environment, climate.  This stuff is mostly beyond our control (though it effects us).

    The Little Circle is our immediate world.  Our home, our yard, our relationships with spouses, children, parents, the apple tree in our yard, our dog, what I am eating today, my mood.  Do I meditate or sit under a tree to quiet my striving mind?  It also includes the solar panels, wiring, the flooring in the kitchen and hallway that needs fixing.  Have I told my daughter how much I appreciate her kind words?  Would a foot rub be appreciated by my friend?  If so, lets do it as a very important act.

    I resonate with what BrushHog is describing above as I have been far, far to focused on the Big Circle.

    An antidote for me is to look at the Little Circle of my life.

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  • Sun, Nov 15, 2020 - 9:25am

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    Learned something new

    per veganism, one has the right to practice whatever cult or religion they’re attracted to but never to enforce or impose it on others.

    I never knew a vegan diet was a cult.

    I do know a legitimate conspiracy theory when I am confronted with it.

    Did you know that Hippocrates and Socrates were cult members.  Einstein joined the cult toward the end.

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  • Sun, Nov 15, 2020 - 9:39am

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    planfortomorrow said:

    Sand -Puppy, I liked your comment very much. I commit to my family, heart and soul. I will participate with the outside world. My goal: first remain calm then get involved, reset, and I will be HAPPY! They tell me so.

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  • Sun, Nov 15, 2020 - 10:31am

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    sandpuppy, a very good point but

    I agree but I'd also ask why can't we address both?  In fact, I would posit that we must because that big circle has the potential to crush that little circle if we don't.  And TPTB want the "little people" to focus on the "little circle" and the little things and leave the "big circle" and big things exclusively to them, as we have, for far too long, with disastrous results.

    I agree not only with you but also with brushhog.  We do need to unplug.  As with everything else in life, we require BALANCE.  If one is spending too much time watching The Great Crumble as I call it, it's not healthy for you.  Lord knows, I've been all too guilty of that myself. 

    We do need to spend time and a lot of it connecting with others, connecting with plants and animals, and connecting with nature to be healthy.  But if we fail to fulfill our responsibilities to be aware and active citizens, we will have no one else but ourselves to blame if we are placed in circumstances where those connections can no longer be made ... like a concentration camp or a gulag or a prison planet.

    I think I've told this story here before but it bears repeating.  It was in a book my daughter gave me to read years ago about a young Jewish girl growing up in an upper middle class family in Poland in1939.  She had an idyllic existence with a loving family, a lovely home, prosperity that allowed the family to have a couple of servants, and a charming town with surrounding countryside to live in.  One day, she heard thunder in the distance.  The next day, German tanks rolled into town and she realized the thunder was the sound of artillery.  And her whole world was turned upside down in a day.

    We all potentially face that same cataclysmic change and therefore, although it is tempting and pleasant in the short term to unplug 24/7, abrogating our longer term responsibility can ultimately leave us and our loved ones in a position that no one should ever have to experience.

     

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  • Sun, Nov 15, 2020 - 10:52am

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    MKI, i've had almost exactly the same experience

    We gave up TV decades ago and have never regretted it.  I consider it mind mush.  But when you tell someone you don't watch TV and don't have a TV, the reaction is one of ranging from disbelief to shock to pity to a look that suggests that somehow, you are unAmerican or un- something.  It really is quite amusing to observe but, on the flip side, is a sobering reminder of the degree to which most of our society has been indoctrinated and brainwashed. 

    I've walked around my neighborhood at night and you can see into most houses because of the contrast between the dark outside and the light inside.  Almost every one has a glowing big screen TV.  Our house is one of the few exceptions where, when the light is on in my home office with large windows in the front of the house, as it is normally is at night, what you see are ceiling to floor and wall-to-wall shelves of books.  Yes, yes, I know you can carry these things on your Kindle but there are multiple problems with that strategy that I won't get into here.

    But if you really want to see a reaction, tell them you don't have a cell phone (or at least don't carry one with you everywhere).  That's an even greater violation of some unwritten law.  You will be considered a Luddite and explanations about not wanting to be tracked, not wanting to be monitored, not wanting the EMR exposure, not wanting to be tied to an electronic leash, not wanting to pay tribute to certain PTB, etc. will fall on deaf ears. 

    I made a decision long ago to own certain things but not let certain things own me and I'm sticking to it as best as I can.  So far the positives of that decision have far outweighed the negatives. 

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  • Sun, Nov 15, 2020 - 11:17am

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    Just "do what you're told" from Fauci

    It's not a surprise that Fauci is ordering people to comply with tyrannical government rules. Fauci is a Catholic. So are Bill and Melinda Gates.
    So is most of my family, I grew up in the church.
    Most of my family worked at and served in it.
    The Catholic Church is one of the best examples today of a working communist model. It has top down governance and leaders who urge strict adherence to rules for the benefit of the whole body. I mean no disrespect to Catholics, there are so many wonderful good ones.
    Someone who practices the Catholic faith is someone who enjoys and believes in rules and rituals. As we have all seen with the Catholic church, this can lead to all kinds of horrific abuse. Just as it does in all communist societies. That is why we need transparency and accountability from communist leaders like Fauci, so the abuses are investigated and stopped. If not, they will continue for decades, within a culture of silence, as we have seen in the church.

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  • Sun, Nov 15, 2020 - 12:51pm

    aladinangel

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    First step in the fight against brainwashing: Ignore Media !

    Since Critical Thinking (which used to be called Common Sense) became some sort of "Suppressed Art", scarcely available to, it appears, only a handful of people, most of them well into their 50s, the first steps toward recovery should be pretty straightforward.

    Ignore Media, in its totality ! It's a very simple algorithm, after all: if one considers that he or she receives more fakes than real information from a certain source (even if the percentage fake/real is just 51/49%), he or she would be better off ignoring that source altogether.

    Critical Thinking 101...

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  • Sun, Nov 15, 2020 - 4:00pm

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    The Next Crisis

     

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  • Sun, Nov 15, 2020 - 5:10pm

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    Mark_BC said:

    per veganism, one has the right to practice whatever cult or religion they’re attracted to but never to enforce or impose it on others.

    I think the issue with veganism and vegetarianism is that animals in our societies have no rights and are treated badly. Oh sure, our domestic pets are subject to weak anti-cruelty laws but from what I have seen, the animals used for food seem to have no protection (I have seen bizarre justifications for this that this is ok because "they are for food", as if the animal has any choice whether it is to be a pet or food). This is backed up by laws prohibiting unauthorized videotaping inside factory farms. Imagine the situation was reversed and you were subjected to extreme cruelty but simply because you were on private property, no one had the right to record and expose that cruelty.

    What motivates vegans poking their noses into other peoples' business is the extreme disconnect between what we buy in the store and what meat production actually entails, and the extreme lengths the industry goes to to keep consumers in the dark about what actually happens.

    I can see both sides. On one hand, people shouldn't and ultimately can't be told what to eat and not to eat; it's their life. But on the other hand, our meat production industries are on the whole so unethical that it does not warrant a "hands off, let people choose what they want" attitude. The goings-on in these facilities is insulated from the average consumer via the sterilized styrofoam packages in the supermarket and the average person has no clue what went into providing that meat. This is about as far removed from our historical roots as hunter gatherers as you can get, where we were personally witness to the butchering of the animal, which lived a good life in the wild before that one fateful day when it was hunted and killed. And most people rationalize their meat purchases with, "well people have been eating animals since the beginning of time so I should be able to choose what I want. Shut up you stupid vegan, don't tell me how to live my life". -- of course entirely missing the point that our historical meat consumption was nothing like what we have now.

    Many meat purchasers will try to address some of their guilt by buying supposedly natural meat which it turns out probably isn't much better.

    We have the legal right to buy any meat we want to, but are our laws just? Do we have the ethical right to eat factory farmed meat simply because the law says so?

    https://www.theguardian.com/food/2018/nov/16/theres-no-such-thing-as-humane-meat-or-eggs-stop-kidding-yourself?fbclid=IwAR3YSIH7ZpFLd49dEUhwQcQS-IpRLdV1yrCYVufg6EEPlCe4Zor8VmwOaWU

    And you know what, I try to buy "natural" meat but I myself really have no proof that it comes from ethical sources, so I am guilty as well. I'd like to take up hunting but I don't know if I'd be able to pull the trigger.... I think instead I'll keep a cooler in the car and if I come across fresh roadkill in the winter I'll load it up.

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  • Sun, Nov 15, 2020 - 5:34pm

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    Watching the big circle wont change anything

    I agree but I'd also ask why can't we address both?  In fact, I would posit that we must because that big circle has the potential to crush that little circle if we don't.  And TPTB want the "little people" to focus on the "little circle" and the little things and leave the "big circle" and big things exclusively to them, as we have, for far too long, with disastrous results.

    I would argue that we have watched the big circle far too much. Your attention feeds it. Look at the whole set up....what do all of these things run on? Clicks? Ratings? It feeds off of your attention.

    You and I are only small individuals, we dont have the power to make sweeping changes to the big circle. But we do have some little fragment of power, we have control over at least ONE person. Ourselves. Imagine a world where people just stopped listening? People stopped clicking on the headlines...stopped using facebook...stopped engaging in the kobuki theatre that we call politics? What a great world that would be. It would starve the elites of all of their control mechanisms. No more narratives, no censorship, no more propaganda, no more controlled opposition set ups, no more media controlled psy-ops...it would all evaporate if only we would stop feeding them the thing they crave...our attention.

    Now sure, the big circle can crush the little circle but there always has been and always will be things outside of our power. A meteor can land on our homes at any minute...so are you going to spend your precious time and energy watching the sky? And if the meteor comes you cant stop it anyway. And, more likely, if it never comes you cheated yourself out of all that time. You worried when you should have enjoyed. What a tragedy.

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  • Sun, Nov 15, 2020 - 5:44pm

    Mike from Jersey

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    Mike from Jersey said:

    It would be helpful if everyone shared what they did to figure out what was going on in the world. Here is a part of what I do.

    Fortunately, I have family all over America as well as in Southern Mexico and China. I rely upon them for accurate information on what is happening in the those places.

    Also, until Covid hit I traveled (many times) through the United States, Mexico, Europe and China. I learned a lot from all of that.

    Additionally, I make a habit of researching stories by comparing what is said by all parties to the story. If a story is about France, I compare French media with American media and contrast that with alternative media in France and America. I look to see what they agree about and what they don't agree about. I then apply logic and experience (a lot of experience since I am old and have been battered by myriad slings and arrows of fortune) to deduce what might really be happening.

    Finally, I have trusted sites (such as this one) which I rely upon to fill me in on things that I would otherwise miss.

    I would appreciate hearing from others how they sift through information to get an idea as to what is really happening in a world where deception seems to be the norm and honesty is the exception.

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  • Sun, Nov 15, 2020 - 6:03pm

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    Mary59

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    My Research Routine

    Thank you Mike from Jersey for this important initiative.

    First of all, I have overall Mentor types from which I learn the way to approach things -from David Icke to Ken Wilber, I have some key people who I think approach paradigms intelligently and thus try to follow that.

    I do not care who or what is presenting the information.  I look at all without judgement of the authors.  Maybe 100% seems BS, so I may skip to another, maybe 90% seems BS, but there seems to be a dot there.

    I look at dots and patterns and question motives and follow the money but no piece of information is beneath my consideration.

    Review all as AI does and see patterns.  Without prejudice, neutrally, objectively.

    Like a blank slate - make your mind like those big white boards where detectives map the crime plots....same idea.

    The big circle contains the little circle.

    With great privilege comes great responsibility.

     

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  • Sun, Nov 15, 2020 - 6:17pm

    Mike from Jersey

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    Mike from Jersey said:

    Mary,

    Yes, that is good advice.

    In matters of power and/or money always ask: cui bono? - who benefits?

    And looking for patterns is crucial - including timing. I always found it suspicious that the revolution in Ukraine (putting Russia hating nationalists in power) happened just after Russia intervened in Syria.

    Coincidence?

    Maybe not.

     

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 2:12am

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    Hladini

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    Big Circle, Little Circle

    Sand_Puppy, loved this description.  If enough of us focus on the little circle then it will become the big circle, however until then, I agree we cannot ignore the big circle.

    International attorney Reiner Fuellmich is filing a class action suit, I believe in Germany, regarding the lockdowns.  He is interviewed by Pat Ben-David from Valuetainment here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpOzHHJmy7g

    This guy is attacking the Big Circle and I'm sure he could use some support.  He's worth following.  The great thing about lawsuits is something called 'discovery.'  In the discovery  process, a party can ask the other side to produce just about anything under the sun.  Whether that info is admissible in court is another issue, but getting your hands on information is usually wide open.    Personally, I hope attorney Fuellmich kicks ass!

    In the meanwhile, my little circle includes some health protocols, the garden, the orchard, work, and my personal spiritually practices.

    Om Tat Sat everyone!

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 2:58am

    Hladini

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    EMP Commission Report

    AKGranny, thanks for posting this blog from the IceAgeFarmer.  No doubt the public is getting 'softened up' for some not too distant future grid problem.  IMO, if we do have problems with the grid, I don't think it will be across the nation or for too long - unless it's for real.

    According to the 2004 EMP Commission Report, the US would suffer an 80-90% fatality rate in less than 60 days with a nation wide grid down scenario - from food shortages.  The chapter on water infrastructure did not publish a fatality rate.

    As a matter of fact, I learned about the EMP Commission Report right here on Peak Prosperity when Chris interviewed the guy at suvivorlibrary.com.  When he became aware of the EMP report, he started a pdf library on 18th and 19th century technology.  I tried to find the interview on PP but no luck, maybe someone can find that interview and repost?

    The chapters on food and water are chilling and it's a short read.

    Here's the report if anyone would like to read it for themselves:  http://www.empcommission.org/docs/empc_exec_rpt.pdf

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 3:15am

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    Hladini

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    Ditch Cell Phones Before You Can't

    Along with TV, cell phones need to go.  I'm not saying don't use one when traveling, if broken down on the side the road then a cell phone could be life saving.  At all other times, there is no need for a cell phone!

    Cell phones are the primary pathway to our surveillance.   When you buy into cell phones, YOU ARE THE  PRODUCT.

    If most of the country stopped using cell phones, I think it would be a lot harder to force a digital currency on the population and it would a lot harder to force/coerce vaccination on the public. There may very well come a day when citizens are required to carry cell phones with them.  In China, it's already very hard to function in society without a cell phone.

    At the very least, the cell phone user should get a cut of the pie for what he/she is worth as the actual product!

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 4:53am

    brushhog

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    Very true

    I stopped using a cellphone in 2005 and never looked back. I moved to a semi remote place and there was no cellular reception [ still isnt ]. Now when people come to visit me I get the opportunity to watch a drug addict go through withdrawals.

    Im not exaggerating. After I tell them that their phones wont work here they say OK. But within an hour they start figgiting  with it. Picking it up, turning it on, checking the bars to make sure.

    Then they start getting a little panicked. Im not exaggerating in the least. Checking the phone, holding it, becoming observably disturbed. Often they suggest a trip into town to get this or that. We go to town, Im driving, and they are checking the phone every 2 minutes, waiting in a panic for when it comes on. Literally, the SECOND it comes on they are on there scrolling and tapping.

    Of course, there have been no messages, nothing missed. No earth shattering news. We get what we need from town, they check their phone again before driving up the mountain and then make a show of turning it off and putting it away...but I already know better.

    In a few hours the nervousness comes back. The dead phone comes out...maybe if they stand just right....maybe if they climb that little hill and stand on one leg...

    The next morning its "lets go down into town for breakfast, my treat!" lol. And the phone comes out because they know the exact spot now where they can get their fix. Scroll through, no important messages, no earth shattering news, they are disappointed.

    I had a friend stay with me for 10 days and it took 3 full days for phone detox, until the leg stopped shaking, and he stopped pawing his dead phone. By the end he seemed mostly cured but when I dropped him off at the train station I noticed he was scrolling his phone as I drove away....*sigh*

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 5:20am

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    If you are on this site, you are not unplugged.

    I'm all for unplugging, but we have to be realistic here. Just because we don't watch TV and aren't subject to the fear marketing of a cable news producer, doesn't mean we are free of it.

    If you are reading and commenting on this site you are not a luddite. You are not unplugged. Your fear is being harvested and used, like it is on every other social platform.

    I'm not implying that Dr. M and Adam are bad people or evil business men, I'm saying that we, as users, want this. We want our fears legitimized by group think. We want to compete for who has the most terrifying conspiracy theory (aka fear).

    We are the problem, not the media, not the social platform. It's time to take responsibility for our own fear and not let it be used against us. Then, and only then, can you say that you are 'unplugged'.

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 6:30am

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    Its hard to unplug completely

    You might need to check the weather,  and that comes with ads, headlines and other things even if you are not interested.   You might need to check your email, and you can be sent things regarding current news.  or get ads or articles.

    However, not turning on the tv news.  and watching only on-demand tv shows without ads, not listening to live radio stations, and unplugging from social media is really really good start.   In fact, its what I do.    I do get bits of news.  but at least I do not make it front and center.  One of things that has been important for me is what is going on with the coronavirus.  I get most of my news for that here.  Because, though far from perfect, is a lot better than the spew flying elsewhere.   I feel my family and I have benefited from what we know about the virus and able to protect ourselves the best as possible.   But, I clearly do not get into the madness that I have watched family and friends who are glued to CNN and others.  It is almost funny ( but very sad and pathetic ) watching the hole they fall into.    Their political persuasions and other judgements about things are grossly distorted.  It very sad, its like someone watching children harm themselves, but unable to do anything about it.

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 6:44am

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    Kill Your TV

    As you unplug yourself from this one source of mind control it is important that you not ignore the most psychologically satisfying aspect.  If you live in a rural area where gunshot will not attract Homeland Security, use the wide screen for target practice.  If you are still an urban sheep, use a sledge hammer.  You will find the exercise immensely satisfying.

    Don't forget to follow up by killing all cell phones in possession of your family.  You will have to tie up all your teenage offspring as they watch, but they will recover after a week or two and can be released onto a leash.

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 7:00am

    Mike from Jersey

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    Mike from Jersey said:

    The sad thing about all this is that this technology could have been very useful.

    Before I retired I used my cell phone as a telephone, a watch, a camera and a pocket calculator. I also used it for some more advanced calculations which could not be performed on a simple pocket calculator. I was happy that I did not have to wear a watch, carry a camera or carry multiple calculators. My smart phone performed all these functions.

    In and of themselves, these advances in technology were very useful.

    The problem is not technology itself but the political climate which sees human beings as commodities or pawns. That political climate utilizes technology - not to enhance life - but to subjugate and exploit. The problem is a system that simply does not value human beings per se.

    Because of that political climate I have gone from an increasing reliance on tech to where I am now - trying to rid myself of multiple technologies put to evil purposes.

     

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 7:52am

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    "Bishop Blindness"

    In the game of chess there is a common phenomena that occurs quite often for beginning and intermediate chess players, and that's referred to as "bishop blindness." Bishops are second tier pieces that have the ability to move on a diagonal, and as long as there are no other pieces obstructing their path, they can move back and forth across the entire board. Occasionally a bishop will find a safe square to occupy deep in enemy territory. "Bishop blindness" then occurs when the other player is so focused on the activity out in front where the struggle is happening, that they mentally "lose sight" that the bishop can angle backwards, passing through the fray, and lethally strike "from behind."

    I often use this chess phenomena as a metaphor in speaking with my friends, commenting that perhaps their rigid ideological positions has them "focusing on just one corner of the chess board."  I say "you are now playing a game with the globalist elites, and they are out to crush you completely!" I say, "start looking at the big picture! You might then deduce that they've unleashed Covid-19 out onto the world stage in order to keep you cowering at home in fear, to destroy the working middle class, and to usher in their globalist agenda, unopposed. They will be bringing you a mandatory vaccine in order to cull the herd, and to "proactively" send a lot of elderly folks to meet their maker well before their time. They will be bringing you a carbon tax to make it impossible for you to drive your car, even if you somehow developed the courage to venture out into public. They want to indoctrinate your children's minds in their "public schools", they want to destroy your church and your faith. They want to crush your spirit. They want the lion's share of what's left of the earth's dwindling natural resources, all for themselves."

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 8:17am

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    Mirror Mirror on The Wall, Tell Me Who's the Most Prepared of All?

    What if, we're all suckers either way?
    Some egos will reply
    with thoughts out of their minds
    with dreams of "property" and wealth.

    Capital is as Capitol does
    digging holes
    some to extract
    some to fill.

    Either way
    the last man will have neither.

    -file under Peak Prosperity Prose (the three P's)

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 9:53am

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    Fear vs Truth

    I'm saying that we, as users, want this. We want our fears legitimized by group think. We want to compete for who has the most terrifying conspiracy theory (aka fear).

    Sure, some will frequent here for that reason. But many do not. As for myself, I come here to test my ideas in an environment that is willing to challenge the public narrative using reason and evidence. So I come to find challenges to my ideas, which seems the opposite of fear. But I'm open to correction.

    But I don't buy into the term "conspiracy theory". It's like saying when an attractive girl comes into the bar, all the men have a "conspiracy" to hook up with her. Or when I go to the store they have a "conspiracy" to get the best price for their goods. These are just people trying to get their way in the world. Of course there are "conspiracies". What Adam & Chris are doing it trying to pinpoint the reality.

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 10:40am

    Bradford

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    Catch-22

     We want our fears legitimized by group think. We want to compete for who has the most terrifying conspiracy theory (aka fear).

    “Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.”― Joseph Heller

    A Catch-22 is any paradoxical, circular reasoning that catches its victim in its illogic and serves those who define the terms/rules...as in, "if one earnestly endeavors to make sense of what's happening on the chessboard, then, they will become permanently entangled by every conceivable wrong move!" Well, Life definitely begs to differ with such an assumption.

    “Almost all of history is an unbroken trail of one conspiracy after another. Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception.” --G. Edward Griffin

    One proactive step we can all take is to disconnect completely from MSM, cable, and stop helping to finance our own demise. Hit those who seek to enslave you where it hurts! Encourage your family and friends to go and do likewise.

    The battle lines have been drawn.

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 11:38am

    Mike from Jersey

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    Mike from Jersey said:

    You wrote:

    We want our fears legitimized by group think. We want to compete for who has the most terrifying conspiracy theory (aka fear).

    I know that is not true for myself. To the extent that I believe in conspiracies, it has only happened after things got to the point where I could not deny it anymore. For instance, I was an anti-Vietnam War protestor and counterculture proponent in the 1960's. But if you asked me - at that time - if I thought that the media was "rigged," I would have said "no." I would have explained away "news" that looked like "deliberate disinformation" by referring to "incompetence," "unconscious prejudices," "a misplaced sense of patriotism" and so on.

    But  after decades of denying the obvious, I can no longer deny the obvious. The media is a rigged game.

    I think that a lot of the people who come here are like me. They simply are not prone to believing "conspiracies." They just wanted accurate information. But the more that they tried to dispassionately evaluate evidence, the more they concluded that they were being lied to and they were being systematically lied to on many, many levels.

    And the lying is not just incompetence or stupidity (although there is that also), it is deliberate dishonesty designed to manipulate the public for the benefit of someone or some group or groups who are behind it.

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 12:11pm

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    2retired said:

    I would add that just plain laziness is a big one. Many (if not most) Doctors are prone to only looking at abstracts and not delving into the methodology, or statistics (and actually reading the papers they reference). Many will take the word of some confident (usually good looking) spokesperson (pick your news anchor), rather than trying to source the origin of the information (and what is left out). Conspiracy theorist labels are meant to shut off any examination and justify the opinions of the labeller.

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 1:52pm

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    If it walks like a duck

    Well veganisim certainly attracts cult like behaviors

    Adherents  can take any random subject like on a Multidisciplinary web forum for example and use some tangential aspect of  that topic to tie into their issue and proselytize about the virtues of veganisim or conversely the sins of non veganisim

    On every single topic and post no less, no engagement is complete without the requisite homage to the the big V.

     

    mm

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 2:14pm

    Bradford

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    What? Huh?

    On every single topic and post no less, no engagement is complete without the requisite homage to the the big V

    And why would that be?...to simply take up space and to become a distraction? The "big V" has now escalated to become a serious "weapon of mass deception?" Was it an attempt at humor? Well, okay! Sorry, I'm completely confused as to why this is being discussed in this thread. Carry on! Oh no, wait! "big V" is a "weapon of mass distraction!" lol

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 2:19pm

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    Really?

    If you’re buying ethical meat it doesn’t take a great deal of research to ensure it is just that. Grass fed, out door reared, preferably organic and small producers. Hell, you can taste good meat. No, suggesting you can’t find good meat to buy is just another way of saying you don’t like the death bit.

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 2:22pm

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    Lol

    Yeah, I found it amusing for a few years. Now I just read all his posts in the hope of proving myself wrong. Alas, it normally ends with a sigh.....

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 4:39pm

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    all hail the new hero of the COVID crisis

    The couch potato.

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/german-ads-hail-couch-potatoes-as-heroes-of-the-covid-19-pandemic-1.5189737

    This would be hysterical if it weren't so pathetic.

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 6:07pm

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    trolling vegans

    I wish people who don't want to hear from my kind would just hit ignore.

    The vegan movement is an activist movement. What elements of this are cult-like other than a single minded devotion to avoiding the abuse of animals? There are extreme elements in any social justice movement. I don't think these comments are relevant to the thread.

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 6:58pm

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    Big and Little Circle

    @ Sand_puppy. Back in the early nineties Steven Covey (7 Habits fame) wrote of the same thing - Circle of Concern vs Circle of Influence. Work on your Circle of influence and you'll find that your influence grows.

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 7:10pm

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    Activists without healthy borders

    The vegan movement is an activist movement.

    There are extreme elements in any social justice movement.

    So then, you as an activist see being disruptive in the name of your cause, as always being justified? Is it an ends justify the means sort of thing? How disruptive then, how far do you go in the name of your your chosen cause? I've seen the videos this weekends of "activists" doing great violence and bodily harm to other people who have their backs turned, striking them down with concealed weapons while they were walking away. In my mind that is an act of pure evil, it goes beyond any claim to activism, and it is simply terrorism. Do you recognize any distinction or need for moderation here? Thank you for any clarification.

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 7:52pm

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    Surveillance capitalism

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIXhnWUmMvw

     

     

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 10:38pm

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    Veganism

    Many comments being made on many threads regarding veganism that aren’t relevant is the point. Veganism isn’t cult like, some vegans are.

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  • Mon, Nov 16, 2020 - 11:36pm

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    Mark_BC said:

    If you’re buying ethical meat it doesn’t take a great deal of research to ensure it is just that. Grass fed, out door reared, preferably organic and small producers. Hell, you can taste good meat. No, suggesting you can’t find good meat to buy is just another way of saying you don’t like the death bit.

    When did I say that? I didn't say that. I said, "Many meat purchasers will try to address some of their guilt by buying supposedly natural meat which it turns out probably isn't much better."

    Just because it says "natural" on the styrofoam package doesn't necessarily mean it's much more ethical. I'd bet 99% of the people that buy the "natural" meat don't do as you say and investigate whether it actually is what they think it is. Much like buying carbon offsets was a big thing a few years ago. It was a way of shifting guilt off yourself to justify continuing the carbon emissions under the belief that the money you gave to this supposedly ethical business was somehow offsetting your emissions, which pretty much turned out to be totally false.

    If you want to investigate the true origins of your natural meat, fantastic! What I am saying is that few people actually do.

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  • Tue, Nov 17, 2020 - 6:39am

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    Killing America with 'Kindness'

    Thanks Pipyman!

    The thesis of  "The Book of Humanitarian Hoaxes: Killing America with 'Kindness'," is a further example of "weapons of mass deception," including the advance of a the "common core" curriculum in our public schools.

    The Humanitarian Hoax is a deliberate and deceitful tactic of presenting a destructive policy as altruistic. The humanitarian huckster presents himself as a compassionate advocate when in fact he is the disguised enemy.

    --Linda Goudsmit

    In the late 80's I went back school to get a single subject teaching credential and at that time I witnessed the first salvo of a globalist indoctrination agenda which was introduced with "goals 2000." I was less affected than student teachers in other fields, because I was teaching art, but the big push for a more "humanist" approach was front and center. Of course "humanist" was just a code word for "collective," and the UC education department where I was enrolled was already advancing/advocating, a collectivist ideology.

    One anecdotal example that stands out in my mind, was when the exceptionally bright son of a woman I was dating at the time, became extremely discouraged while attending public school. He was in 3rd or 4th grade and would complete his in class assignment far in advance of his classmates, and instead of being allowed to continue he was stifled so that it didn't hurt the feelings of his slower classmates. He was told that it was his responsivity, as an 11 year old, to go and teach the other students until they caught up. This was back at the beginning of the ever increasing Marxist indoctrination of our public school system (where everyone gets a trophy), and we can all see where it has led (trigger warnings, cry rooms, and now onto acts of extreme violence). I would so posit that these education departments throughout America's university system were the access point, the trojan horse if you will, to extinguish the spirit of individualism and self-reliance which had made our country so exceptional. I'll wager that the children of the elites were not being taught this Marxist blather by their private instructors.

    Priority 3: Foster Global Citizenship

    It is Priority #3 that is most problematic and the basis for the humanitarian hoax of Common Core.

    Obama's Common Core is not teaching American children about the world and how to be effective and competitive in a global marketplace. Obama's deceitful Common Core initiative is propagandizing American children toward collectivism, globalism, and one-world government with its anti-American, anti-Judeo-Christian, pro-Islamic bias. American public/private education no longer advocates American patriotism, the meritocracy, American exceptionalism, or American sovereignty. America is no longer in control of American education. This is how it happened.

    "A wolf in sheep's clothing."

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  • Tue, Nov 17, 2020 - 11:30am

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    Big Circle, Little Circle...

    Sounds like the Dicotomy of Control from Stoic philosophy was repackaged.

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  • Tue, Nov 17, 2020 - 2:08pm

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    Fair enough

    SOS 😊

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  • Wed, Nov 18, 2020 - 11:46am

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    👍

    Yes, a great benefit of the pandemic???

    kids out of school....

    NOT GOING BACK 😎

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  • Sat, Nov 21, 2020 - 2:36am

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    Scientist Exposes Big Tech Manipulation

    https://youtu.be/wqtKQgTps_g

    Robert Epstein explains how big tech / social media consciously manipulate users without them knowing. They can sway millions of voters, easily tipping elections toward candidates the companies prefer.

    Watch the first 20 minutes, at least, to get hair to stand up on the back of your neck. This will creep you out.

     

    I hope this gets shared far and wide.

    His website: https://mygoogleresearch.com/

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  • Sat, Nov 21, 2020 - 8:34am

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    "Evil Itself"

    Thank you R.E. for the link to the "Big Tech and Political Manipulation" video!

    Robert Epstein's exceptional work explains what has been going on under the hood, completely unseen, that's engineering our world lightspeed into an Orwellian nightmare of mind-control and our subsequent "voluntarily" giving up our freedoms.  The sick irony of Google's original code of conduct which said "Don't be evil," which of course now must certainly be revised to "We are evil Itself."

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 11:35am

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    Psycho-graphic Profiling

    Cambridge Analytica specializes in what’s called “psychographic” profiling, meaning they use data collected online to create personality profiles for voters. They then take that information and target individuals with specifically tailored content.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/20/ftc-steve-bannon-cambridge-analytica-438834

     

    From the Guardian

    “There’s evidence of really quite disturbing experiments on American voters, manipulating them with fear-based messaging, targeting the most vulnerable, that seems to be continuing. This is an entire global industry that’s out of control but what this does is lay out what was happening with this one company.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/04/cambridge-analytica-data-leak-global-election-manipulation

     

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 12:00pm

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    Helping those lagging behind.

    "He was in 3rd or 4th grade and would complete his in class assignment far in advance of his classmates, and instead of being allowed to continue he was stifled so that it didn't hurt the feelings of his slower classmates. He was told that it was his responsivity, as an 11 year old, to go and teach the other students until they caught up. This was back at the beginning of the ever increasing Marxist indoctrination of our public school system (where everyone gets a trophy)"--Bradford

    I know a few brilliant neuro-atypical people who were pretty crushed in their early grades of public school by the emphasis on competition.  Public schools, before much was known about emotional and neurological and social development in children caused a lot of harm.

    Think of the cooperative spirit that is instilled in students who are high achievers when they are asked to  help others who are lagging behind. That confers a social and emotional good for the high achiever and a sense of belonging for the under achiever.

    What this has to do with Marxism, I have no idea.

     

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 12:23pm

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    Bradford

    "Of course "humanist" was just a code word for "collective," and the UC education department where I was enrolled was already advancing/advocating, a collectivist ideology." Bradford

    Humanism is anything but collectivist. It's foundational understanding is that we are individually unique, have natural rights, regardless of our position and or relationship to authority. It broke from the biblical tradition that places the individual's rights and freedoms within a sacred context.

    It is the exact opposite of collectivism or Marxism which views the individual more as a one head on a hydra headed being.

    Why the alt right has confused the petty forms humanism have taken in academia with Marxism and collectivism, is beyond me. Could be due to Jordan Peterson's inability to name it correctly. It should be called "Cultural Pettiness"

    Gender politics has descended  into something that could also be called "Cultural Swiftianism" where Blefuscu and Lilliput warred over where soft boiled should be cut off before eating. Individuals linked into micro-communites of individual pettiness. Don't think that would have flown in Marxist states.

    This is in no way Marxist. It is actually placing way too much importance on the primacy of the individual and ignoring the fact that they have to cooperate within a larger society.

    It's a very strange conglomeration of the primacy of the individual, filtered through a Narcissistic culture that began post war within Madison Avenue, that focused on neurotic needs and desires of the individual as opposed to emphasis on the group.

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 1:04pm

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    Helping those lagging behind

    the cooperative spirit that is instilled in students who are high achievers when they are asked to  help others

    Also consider: explaining a thing well enough that someone else can understand it is a highly effective way to strengthen one's own grasp of the subject. Having students explain things to others is good pedagogy on more than one level.

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 1:38pm

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    agitating prop

    What I was saying was that humanism was the guise, the slight of hand, under which the collectivists employed their long term strategy 0f a "deliberate dumbing down" of the educational system, in order to usher in new generations of easily compliant leftist followers. This of course was at the expense of individualism, exceptionalism, and critical thinking, all by design. "Feelings" and "everyone gets a trophy" became the exclusive mandate and so has led us into the dysfunctional society of Antifa et all, that we now inhabit.

    I take it that you are not a big fan of:

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

    Would those be the "neurotic needs and desires of the individual" in your opinion?

    "Our nation was built upon the virtues of individual responsibility and self-reliance. Adams and his contemporaries believed that liberty was worth defending no matter the cost. Patrick Henry said it best with his now-famous line, spoken one month before the start of the Revolutionary War: “Give me liberty, or give me death!” The Founding Fathers understood liberty as the right of each individual to pursue his or her own desires, ambitions, and interests, so long as they did violate the rights of other individuals in the process."

     

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 1:52pm

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    Bradford said:

    Having students explain things to others is good pedagogy on more than one level.

    No, not in 3rd grade class where it was employed as a means to frustrate the gifted children on a continual basis, and to extinguish their innate desire for competition and individual excellence. That was both cruel and sick.

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 1:55pm

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    Redneck

    Epstein makes a glaring error which casts doubt on his presentation.

    The Nest thermostat does not have a camera or a microphone

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 2:04pm

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    bradford.

    You mentioned the child was 11 years old. That is sixth grade. But is is beside the point. Having children as young as 8 or 9 help those who are behind is still a good practice. It blows my mind that anyone would think that is part of a greater conspiracy to "continually frustrate gifted children."

    As part of a faction that is so sensitive to what the "elites" are up to, this is a remarkably elitist comment. A young child's innate quest for excellence and competition? LOL.

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 2:08pm

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    Bradford.

    "What I was saying was that humanism was the guise, the slight of hand, under which the collectivists employed their long term strategy 0f a "deliberate dumbing down" of the educational system, in order to usher in new generations of easily compliant leftist followers"

    Not even close.

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 2:25pm

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    Are Chris and Adam Communists, Bradford?

    So, I guess Chris Martenson is a collectivist. He is frustrating his own innate quest for competition and excellence by trying to help others within this collective, called Peak Prosperity. Many are lagging behind...unprepared. Correct?

    Chris and Adam remark frequently about the folly of living in a growth paradigm on a finite planet. That sounds a lot like a plea to work together and help others and to accept restrictions the environment will place on us.

    Those restriction are often implemented through government. Are Chris and Adam collectivist Communists? Have they been hoodwinked by leftists to believe this?

    Chris is working toward sustainable living on his own farm and helping others while they help him do this. Is this collective farming? Come on now, Bradford. We all know its a slippery slope.

    Maybe Chris and Adam are employing sleight of hand, using this website and allowing the alt right to pretty much dominate the comments to hide the fact they are really Communists initiating a Bolshevik style rebellion. LOL.

    Because the comments section has become more and more susceptible to online propaganda I guess I better include that I am kidding and don't think that Chris and Adam are Communists.

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 2:31pm

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    agitating prop

    That just what I thought would be a revealing anecdotal example, 22 years ago, of one exceptionally bright child who expressed his frustration and dislike of being in school at that time because he was being constantly held back. It was consistent with what I observed having gone through the student the student teaching program at a major university. You are choosing ignore the trends and outcomes that have transpired since then?

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 2:43pm

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    agitating prop

    Now you appear to be trolling me. Oh well, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree concerning collectivism by edict ("you will own nothing and you will be happy"), and perhaps even vaccination by mandate! Neither of which I think Chris or Adam would be in favor of.

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 2:47pm

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    Bradford.

    The trends I have witnessed are classes where kids are allowed to go berserker in the classroom without much in the way of consequence. They are going nuts because they are from single family homes and fathers exert a stabilizing influence on boys. Plus boys are more energetic and should would benefit from learning by doing. Harder for them to sit still.

    It's partly a neuro-atypical phenomenon that is exaggerated by social conditions and handled the wrong way by the culture, in general.

     

    Kids who have a passion for learning can't be held back. They will find a way. Don't worry about them. Whatever you attribute the cause to, they will be fine.

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 2:51pm

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    agitating prop said:

    I am in disagreement. Am not trolling you. Vaccine by edict is an entirely different subject and I also think it is wrong to force anyone to have a vaccine and think parents should be able to choose for their children, barring an outbreak of bubonic plague.

    I sure won't be taking any vaccine that was rushed to market. No thanks!

    Hey...we agree on something. All is not lost!

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 3:22pm

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    Nest camera/audio/thermostat

    Depends on the model

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 4:07pm

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    MM -

    https://www.realsimple.com/work-life/technology/google-nest-camera-secret-microphone

    Quick search gave me this link showing Nest has hidden mic. Has this been refuted?

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 4:11pm

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    Wendell Berry, a reminder...

    .....of the reality that we are all, ALL, shitting in our boots.
    “Whether we and our politicians know it or not, Nature is party to all our deals and decisions, and she has more votes, a longer memory, and a sterner sense of justice than we do.”
    get over the assumption that you are an endall in the game.

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 4:30pm

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    Teach Your Children

    “The complexity of our present trouble suggests as never before that we need to change our present concept of education. Education is not properly an industry, and its proper use is not to serve industries, either by job-training or by industry-subsidized research. It's proper use is to enable citizens to live lives that are economically, politically, socially, and culturally responsible. This cannot be done by gathering or "accessing" what we now call "information" - which is to say facts without context and therefore without priority. A proper education enables young people to put their lives in order, which means knowing what things are more important than other things; it means putting first things first.” Wendell Berry

    i am out for a while. robie, husband, father, farmer, optometrist,, a poor and reluctant typist

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  • Sun, Nov 22, 2020 - 5:47pm

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    Susan7 said:

    MM, I was under the impression that the Nest did indeed have a microphone, the listing of which was overlooked in the specs. Google apologized for the oversight. As for the camera, not easily determined although there is a motion sensor.

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