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    by Chris Martenson

    Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 3:06 PM

Welcome.

Maybe you got here because you followed a link from YouTube, or Twitter, or Facebook.  Or maybe you’re already a long-time reader, in which case welcome back.

Below, once you are signed into this site (which requires registration for all newcomers) you will be able to access (for free, of course) today’s video which builds upon and goes further than the one posted to YouTube.

Why are we doing this?  Because we cannot risk being deplatformed.  We already have had one video taken down by YouTube for our strictly scientific coverage of a review paper of Ivermectin (IVM) put out by some of the most accomplished critical care medical doctors in the world.

It’s nothing personal, their own video of Dr Kory’s testimony to the US Senate was taken down and deleted by YouTube.

But chilling nonetheless.   It sucks, and here we are.

Our response?  Put relatively benign, non-objectionable content out on YouTube but then put what we actually want to say here, on our own site, and behind a soft wall (registration required).

Why the soft wall?  Because our biggest foes are scammers, spammers, bots, and Google’s prying eyes and spiders which will scrape our content and potentially misuse it against us.

Are we over-reacting?  No, in fact we may be underreacting.  Behind the scenes we are having daily conversations with other content creators who are battling their own waves of censorship that lack both any defensible rationale and a party you could actually talk to on the other end of the social giant machinery.

So what’s down there that’s worth your time?  Today I discuss:

  • Ivermectin and the war against it.
  • The various strategies in play to confuse the public’s perception of IVM
  • Provide direct actions you can take to inform your doctor about IVM

The data on IVM is compelling as to its effectiveness (we’ve got some direct user experiences in there today) which makes the obviously coordinated campaign against it all the more horrible (if not horrifying).

As always, I provide full links to everything.  We’ll also be having a rousing discussion in the comments section, and we’d love to have you so if you’re still on the fence about signing in, why not give it try?  Our tribe is welcoming, we’re curious, and we’re very independent minded.

This is how we beat them at their own game.  We simply walk away.  No longer will YouTube get my best content for free (while taking more and more profits for themselves) while becoming more draconian in squashing ‘unapproved’ ideas.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 3:19pm

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    johnplakey@gmail.com

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    Dear Folks

    YouTube is going to remove your YouTube channel anyway. It will just take longer. I'm going to show this to my high school HVAC class. I'm hoping to make a screen capture for the kids. I'll see if my bosses can me.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 3:27pm

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    ninstints

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    Coordinated Repression of Early Treatment of C19 Explained

    Everyone should read:

    https://covexit.com/coordinated-repression-of-early-treatment-of-c-19-explained/

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 3:36pm

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    Perhaps you don’t understand the rules?

    For a detailed explanation of the rules JP does a great job of explaining them clearly!  You'll may not completely comprehend them.
    https://youtu.be/vVhlcCyF7e8

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 4:17pm

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    Mots

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    "simply walk away"

    you got that right....................

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 4:25pm

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    3rdEyeOpen

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    Where's the video?

    I see no video. Just introduction, then a title header, then a large blank space, then the links and finally comments. No video.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 4:32pm

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    Jeanie1961

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    Dr John Cambell

    Chris I noticed that Dr John Campbell has brought up the subject of Ivermectin on his You Tube channel, he's based in the UK and he is saying that the evidence is looking substantial enough that Governments should be looking into it, following to see what happens here in the UK, at present Ivermectin isn't even on the radar.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 4:54pm

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    cjannink

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    Truth!

    Chris thank you sooooo much for opening this up and keeping truth alive! Stay resilient my friend!

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 4:58pm

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    Section 230

    You really need to go read the text of Section 230. It says it's okay to violate the First Amendment if what the person is saying is "objectionable". So, they did pass a law that mentions the First Amendment in the process of sanctioning the violation of it.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 4:58pm

    Chris Martenson

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    Re: Dear Folks

    I'm going to show this to my high school HVAC class.

    Go for it!

    And please let us know how it goes?

     

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:01pm

    Chris Martenson

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    Re: Where's the video?

    I see no video. Just introduction, then a title header, then a large blank space, then the links and finally comments. No video.

    Not sure...works for me.   I can see it in several browsers.

    So, which browser are you using?  Have you tried shutting your tabs down and reopening your browser?  Seems like it might be something like that.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:03pm

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    Bradford

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    covid19criticalcare.com link being blocked?

    Hmm, I've tried to text the full link to the "Review of Emerging Evidence..." to my friends and it immediately has a "failure to deliver", no matter who I try to forward it to. However if I put the address in quotes it goes through no problem.

    Edit: my mistake by thinking I was forwarding the link, and not the 28 page .pdf, doh!

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:06pm

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    Everywhere you read -- Just had this discussion today with wife and freinds

    It is out-of-control.. Now MSM is slamming misinformation about vaccine..  and dangers.. saying antivaxers making baseless false claims and are now that antivaxxers are dangerous..    Its out of control.. its far gone..   War not just on words coming to your hometown soon.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:07pm

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    BobThrasher

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    Finally, you said it!

    You finally called these people "stone cold murderers" - kudos!

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:07pm

    Mike from Jersey

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    Coordinated Repression of Early Treatment of C19 Explained

    The so-called Trusted News Initiative denominates itself as the self-appointed arbiter of of acceptable information on Covid, the vaccine and Covid treatments. The members of the "Trusted News Initiative" are:

    AP, AFP; BBC, CBC/Radio-Canada, European Broadcasting Union (EBU), Facebook, Financial Times, First Draft, Google/YouTube, The Hindu, Microsoft, Reuters, Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism, Twitter, and The Washington Post.

    Trusted News Initiative!?!?

    "Facebook," "Microsoft," "Google/YouTube," "Reuters," "Twitter," "The Washington Post."

    I would have laughed myself sick had this not been so tragic.

     

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:20pm

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    BobThrasher

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    apples-to-apples??

    To know whether treatment is better in one country vs another you need to compare CFR.  You compared US and India death-rate.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:21pm

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    Chris Martenson

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    It's Out of Control

     Its out of control.. its far gone..   War not just on words coming to your hometown soon.

    I completely agree.

    And you have to be clued into the precise use of inflammatory words.  Emotionally laden content designed to force you react in a certain way.

    The main lever usually exerted is the 'belonging lever.'  Everyone wants to belong.  We hate to be abandoned and forgotten.

    So here's the LA Times recently working diligently to marginalize those who might dare to question the state of California's official edicts.  As if somehow elected officials even at the state level had risen beyond the right or duties of their own citizens to question their actions.

    Do you see what I see?  The LATimes has framed things like this;

    "The only way to stop Covid is to enter a lockdown.  That's settled science.  Further, there are no effective treatments that could replace a lockdown,  Therefore anybody resisting a lockdown is a danger to society.  Oh, and some of them are conspiracy theorists."

    Left out of that, of course, is that there's an alternative framing which says:

    "Hey, there is an effective set of treatments.  Ivermectin alone would plunge the transmission rate by more than 90%.  Further we could be smart about the way in which we allow people to live their lives.  Maybe younger folks with a 99.96% rate of survival don't need to be locked down.  Maybe we should be giving Ivermectin and Vitamin D to our elderly and then being, you know, a bit more careful around them."

    But, nope.

    The LA Times is clearly on the propaganda bandwagon and is branding people as "resistors" and "conspiracy theorists" for doing things like reading clinical trial results.

    You can practically hear tribunals assembling out in a nearby empty stadium...

    This needs to be fought.  It's unacceptable.  This sort of dangerous language and framing by the like of the LA Times is exactly what precedes very bad periods of history.

    How about we 'just say no' to that path, mmmmkay?

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:27pm

    rustun

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    rustun said:

    Try FLCCC.NET , it will redirect you to the same website.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:28pm

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    Rolandrock

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    Lecturing primary care physicians

    Discussed the whole IVM thing with my doc today. She said she will research FLCCC and others. Curious to see if she comes around to our point of view. This could save many lives as she is director of a large chain of rural health clinics. 

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:29pm

    wotthecurtains

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    covid19criticalcare.com link being blocked?

    What do you mean "texted"?  Like SMS?

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:30pm

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    Any plans to add closed-captions to the alt media videos?

    Unfortunately the CensorTube alternatives do not have auto captioning features. I am feeling left out from many good videos because of this - here at PP, the Corbett Report, Last American Vagabond to name a few.

    It will be greatly appreciated by many if videos are in accessible formats that everyone can enjoy. Please and thanks!

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:35pm

    Chris Martenson

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    Re: Apples to apples

    To know whether treatment is better in one country vs another you need to compare CFR.  You compared US and India death-rate.

    Interesting idea, but I haven't a clue how to go about doing that.

    Once upon a time a "case" was someone presenting with Covid symptoms who needed medical attention.  Now it stands for whatever a country deems it to mean.

    In the US a 'case' is any positive PCR reading up to and including a cycle threshold of up to 45.  That's just idiotic from a public health perspective, as well as a clinical perspective.  Nobody is either getting sick or transmitting anything at a CT of > 35.

    So, to compare 'cases' you'd actually have to compare similarly defined cohorts.  Because we can't do that, we have to do the next best thing which is to default to the largest data set there is and look at "deaths per million."

    It's the same reason I look at "all cause excess mortality" vs "Covid deaths" because I no longer even know what a "Covid death" even is.  That's the whole dies 'from' vs. died 'with' debate, which is legit.  Terms matter, and how things are classified limits (or enhances) the sorts of analyses that can be run on them.

    Note that Sweden has been soundly trashed for their approach and it's reaching a fever pitch [sic] now.

    However, when I go to their 'all cause mortality' data I...well...I have to say I'm a bit underwhelmed at what I see from a fear perspective.

    Now, to be sure the data for 2020 isn't complete, and there's still 7% of the year left (31-4)/365 = 7.4%

    If we multiply the last value we get (87169)* 1.074 = 93,617.

    True, that puts 2020 as the highest year out of the past ten.   But just by 1,432 deaths more than 2018.  Or 1.5% higher.  Or an additional 0.014% of the total population.

    Or we could note that Sweden is both growing in population and ageing and that if 2020 deaths finish where I've adjusted them, then 2020 will be perfectly within ordinary statistical bounds.

    I can only imagine how much better it would have been *with* Ivermectin in their arsenal.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:37pm

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    Time2help

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    Change.Org

    This is based on anecdotal evidence and word-of-mouth to date but something to keep an eye towards going forward.

    Change.org may be "throttling" signature counts on petitions that cover counter-narrative topics much like Youtube does for videos (views).

    #WarOnTruth

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:39pm

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    Mots

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    future communications : path needed

    Fascism is a disease that grows until it kills the host. Things will get much worse until a war occurs and wipes out the fascism or a revolution occurs and converts the fascism into something worse.  We can see the future of America by looking at what happens at truthseekers at the bleeding edge (domain registration interfered with, kicking private blog sites off of ISPs, elimination of banking services including patreon, spoofing of emails, and in extreme cases auto (pun intended) suicide of dissentors.

    Backup contact information including physical addresses should be obtained for blog members that want a long term communication relationship.  This will get much worse and simple emailing or blog posting will not be possible at some point in the near (1-2 year future), in my opinion.

    Hey if I am wrong then please laugh at me and move on.  I would be delighted if everyone could laugh at my expense.

    But if you consider the energy usage of humans throughout history, a large portion has been devoted to fascism.

    Energy is everything, politics is nothing.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:40pm

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    trebor said:

    Yes i watch his channel, today a viewer shared a link to a new trial with Molupiravir . also a miracle drug. Check it out Chris

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:41pm

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    Greek Greetings

    Hello Chris. Im Dim, MD  from Greece. Been following you from March due to Covid.

    Back in March HCQ used to be recommended here but not anymore... I try to convince some close friends about its probable value but no big success..

    Also, due to an early lockdown we had minimum losses during the first wave (200 deaths in 10mil) and in fact until mid-July we were a covid free country and had the chance to follow the example of  SE Asia, Oceania or Iceland that are still covid free ..

    Though our wonderful government, followed EU criminal management. Opened the borders without necessary test for the tourists... And did nothing about limiting crowded closed places (schools-buses) or about supporting the national health system (is ruined especially in rural areas and private sector is growing day by day... a gradually growing dystopia)... Anyway now we have surpassed 3500 deaths/10mil.

    We are again under lockdown from 6 November. Officially draconian.
    300 euro fine (500 is the basic salary, and now maaaany people are unemployed of course) if u dont wear a mask even if u walk alone in an empty street. Also u are not allowed to get of your house for any reason from 22.00-05.00(and before 22.00 u need to send a text asking permission).. dystopia.. And its not even working because it's not exactly a lockdown.

    Traffic is close to normal.
    The majority still works and there is no care about elderly who usually live in the same house with the rest of the family... In fact only work and death is allowed..  "We are experiencing in a way another version of "Arbeit macht frei" 100deaths/day for the last 25 days. It seems like a slight decline is starting but it isnt clear yet.

    I hoped ur XYZ theory would have been working at least but examples of Italy or US proved it wrong. (i would like a comment on this btw)

    Now, our Superb elites have created the perfect ground for our holy saviour. The vaccine... Everyone is speaking about it...  Even if the best case scenario is that it's true efficiency will be proven around September '21
    I dont like all this rush.. and also i dont like untested new technologies on fast track mode.

    Will an RNA Vaccine Permanently Alter My DNA?
    Is a Coronavirus Vaccine a Ticking Time Bomb?

    The above scenarios of t serious adverse effects could be noted as highly unlikely..buuuttt when u plan to vaccinate billions highly unlikely becomes almost a certainty.. And also vaccination creates evolutionary pressure for mutations-> raising chances for ADE..

    Even now, i would prefer a 1-2 month strict lockdown to clear out the virus, then measures to accomodate our living accordingly, "maximize open-air, minimize crowded places".

    Also, even if countries are not certain about ivermectin or HCQ, each could run a study to test them.. both drugs are fucking safe and we dont have any alternative..remdesivir is even worse than tamiflu probably...FFS..

    It seems possible that scepticists about vaccine safety are going to be the Jews-Gays-Gypsies of our era.

    For sure, it shouldnt be this way.  Though i disagree with trying to live with the virus. HCQ or ivermectin probably help a lot but even 0,8%deaths/symptomatics is a big number. Covid free countries must be our goal.

    First with quarantine-testing, then with adaptation of our lifestyle to the pandemic and finally with a vaccine that its safety was ensured with a high probablity.

    Anyway, keep up the good work.

    Greek Greetings

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:43pm

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    Where Do We Find Dosing for Ivermectin "Horse Paste"?

    Hi Chris,

    You mentioned in today's "War on Truth" video that there are places that explain the dosage and use of vetrinary ivermectin for humans. Where can we find this?

    Thanks!

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:43pm

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    Very refreshing

    Very refreshing to hear Chris be able to express things the way they should be.  Thank you for the great documentation, have an appointment to share with Doc next week.  Also got the horse paste.......

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:54pm

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    Papaya said:

    I was thinking that it was about time you checked whether the, so called, decentralised platforms are actually decentralised. I'm thinking along the lines of https://www.theta.tv/ and https://lbry.com.

    Go for it Chris.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:59pm

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    CurtS said:

    Youtube viewer of yours since early Feb. As I have said 1000 times there, thank you. I cant begin to explain how much you have helped us.

    Anyways, I am wondering you have ever thought about going on with Tim Pool? Timcast or Tim IRL. He is the version of you showing all the hypocrisy in the managers lunch room. He has a massive audience as well. Again thank you Sir.

     

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 5:59pm

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    Re: Educational thought experiment

    You mentioned in today's "War on Truth" video that there are places that explain the dosage and use of vetrinary ivermectin for humans. Where can we find this?

    Thanks!

    We've covered that here pretty well.

    For educational purposes only, you understand.  For those that like puzzles and minor math challenges, here's a handy link:

    Ivermectin / HCQ / Azith or Doxycycline Dosage

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    DISCLAIMER: THIS WEBSITE DOES NOT PROVIDE MEDICAL ADVICE
    The information, including but not limited to, text, graphics, images, videos and other material contained on this website are for informational and educational purposes only. No material on this site is intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health care provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition or treatment and before undertaking a new health care regimen, and never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have read on this website.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 6:00pm

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    Denied Ivermectin

    Thank you for this information. I presented the FLCCC data to my doctor today who seemed interested. Later I received this message:

    “Allegheny Health Network does not recommend usage of this medication because there are not peer reviewed published studies that support its use for either treatment or prevention of Covid at this time.”
    “Treatment recommendation: I do not recommend Ivermectin for use for Covid treatment or prophylaxis. Continue hand hygiene, social distancing, masking. Vaccinate when available if no contraindications.”

    That last sentence says it all. I can’t believe what has happened to our country.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 6:04pm

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    misinfo2020

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    IVM, Vaccines and the 80% long haulers.

    Chris, love your work.  Thanks.  Had a house protocol sorted by Jan 20. Modified  updates appeared "but hey" would have done this household fine if infected.

    At this stage the vaccine message appears to be: a vaccine will reduce the severity of infection but you may still get Sars Cov 2.  - As Chris remarked.

    Chris also remarked that 80% of Covid cases are showing long hauler issues.

    Does anyone know if IVM can completely eliminate Sars Cov 2 in the human body?

    If the current "treatment" profile of vaccines is suppression and evidently Covid19's long term disease developments are dangerous IVM may be more important than is currently discussed.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 6:15pm

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    misinfo2020 said:

    See IVERMECTIN MD TEAM on facebook.  

    Or Search youtube Rory MItchell MD  Ivermectin.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 6:17pm

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    dadzcats

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    Thanks, Chris!

    This was a great video and I’ve sent it to a few people because you connect all the dots and also provide reference to allow them to go back to the data you presented in earlier videos.

    I know ivermectin is considered safe. Are there any contraindications/side effects you are aware of that we should be aware of?

    We  received our order of horse paste. It feels like an insurance policy. When I tried to share the data you provided in the video that was taken down with a doctor I was seeing, he said “I don’t know anything about it. It’s a drug for parasites. I will tend to shy away from your “trusted source” and go with what the Center for Infectious Diseases and CDC say.” I felt so helpless. When you can’t get a doctor to think critically and exam all the data what is your recourse? Horse paste😏

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 6:27pm

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    rusty denied ivermectin

    I would down at the courthouse filing suit against your health network.. They are not your care provider, they cannot step over the treatment you are entitled to.    further they recommend a drug that is not formally FDA approved even.  AND has not been peer reviewed..  Meaning IVM has been approved by the FDA.. and the studies have been peer reviewed.// by FLCCC  - who and what do they think these guys are?  This is just bad science and bad medicine.. and people who are afraid to be sued.. and just want to let someone else take responsibility.. problem is they are actually culpable in harm..  Id be up ther AH's  tomorrow.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 6:33pm

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    Pappy

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    Screw them, it's a free market, build your own pharmacy

    Just finished my home COVID pharmacy. I have enough shown below to treat myself at least 50 times and prophylaxis.

    All told, I spent $200 for blister packs at SA Enterprises (Thanks Sunil!) and $50 for two orders shipped from Mumbai ($25 shipping each).

    Horse paste from Amazon and local farm store. $50 total.

    SO...

    For a total of $300, I have enough HCQ to treat an entire nursing home for arthritis and help w/ zinc ionophore action AND prophylaxis IVM dosing for two adults for COVID for 18 months AND treat 50 adults w/IVM of actual infection AND cure an entire team of horses of nail fungus and/or bots.

     

    I wish to thank all the doctors, nurses and HCW's on the front lines, especially those research practitioners who published their treatment results, and finally the experts (Chris Martenson - et al) who have helped me interpret the actual data and see thru the political and profit motivated narratives.

    Your messages and research got me prepared for my family plus. For less than $6 per treatment.

    At scale I could get it down to under $3, but then I'd probably be considered guilty of intent.

    Right now I'm just a kook with some extra antibiotics and anti-microbials.





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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 6:46pm

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    nordicjack

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    Censorship in Closing in on America

    Censorship Is Closing In on America

    Glenn Greenwald, censored by the online media institution that he founded, has resigned from The Intercept. He was not allowed to report on the Biden scandal. 

    Greenwald writes:

    “American media is gripped in a polarized culture war that is forcing journalism to conform to tribal, groupthink narratives that are often divorced from the truth and cater to perspectives that are not reflective of the broader public but instead a minority of hyper-partisan elites. The need to conform to highly restrictive, artificial cultural narratives and partisan identities has created a repressive and illiberal environment in which vast swaths of news and reporting either do not happen or are presented through the most skewed and reality-detached lens.

    “With nearly all major media institutions captured to some degree by this dynamic, a deep need exists for media that is untethered and free to transgress the boundaries of this polarized culture war and address a demand from a public that is starved for media that doesn’t play for a side but instead pursues lines of reporting, thought, and inquiry wherever they lead, without fear of violating cultural pieties or elite orthodoxies.”

    courtesy of www.paulcraigroberts.org

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 6:54pm

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    Thanks, Chris.

    Thanks, Chris. This is getting really insane. It'd be nice to learn who's behind all this. After all, it's about saving lives, is it not. Thanks again.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 7:07pm

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    nyhetersverige said:

    Sweden's a mess. It's all collapsing. The NYT just came out with a new piece today and the locals are jubilant. You don't want more details as it's just too much to bear, but think Andrew Cuomo on steroids.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 7:10pm

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    nyhetersverige said:

    So why are they trying? What's the connection and with whom?

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 7:24pm

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    Thank you for the Info for ivermectin

    Thank you for the Info for Ivermectin

    How can I download your War on Truth Video ?

    Could not find it on Vimeo

    Aussiegold

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 7:27pm

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    Any US Docs Prescribe Ivermectin for Covid?

    Chris, I have followed your advice to the extreme since the beginning.  Last week my mother fell.  I rushed to her house.  When arrived, I could not stop the bleeding.  This resulted in an ambulance trip and hospital stay.  She is better and at her home.  Now we wait.  Been 4 days, no symptoms.  Hopefully, neither of us gets it.  If we do, where can I find a US doctor willing to prescribe Ivermectin?  I am not sure about horse paste or foreign grey market drugs.  All your life-saving info is for nothing if we can't get the meds data supports.  Not disparaging you, just frustrated.  I work at a large healthcare provider and asked a few docs about it.  I have sent your info to one.  I am not making progress.
    If no known US doc will do it.  Do you vouch for SA Enterprises?  Assume a hypothetical that I am a traveler and I somehow have a legal right to obtain Ivermectin in India.  Is SA Entreprises Ivermectin reliable enough to trust my life and the life of my family?  Saying hypothetical because I am not looking for medical advice.  I am looking for a quality recommendation for a company.
    Thanks!

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 7:28pm

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    How about Ivermectin injection taken orally? Safe?

    I know when people can’t find a good Dr, people are taking the oral “Apple”/horse ivermectin in a pinch, and it seems to be safe.

    I bought some of the Noromectin cow/swine injectable ivermectin bc the cost/availability was better. I would like to hear from Chris M. to know if this form of ivermectin is also safe, when taken orally.
    Thanks in advance, and thank you Chris for all you have done for us. We have been watching you since your very first CV video. We will be watching everything you put up going forward, as the USA and the West pushes toward self-destruction.
    “Crisis is the friend of the State”  🙁

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 7:33pm

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    Good timing!

    It is appropriate that you referred to the Bill of Rights in your video!

    December 15th is Bill of Rights Day. (The Bill of Rights became law on this day in 1791, following ratification by the state of Virginia.) We encourage our American readers to gather publicly and read the Bill of Rights aloud.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 7:34pm

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    Mari007 said:

    The apple/horse ivermectin is made by reputable companies. I would trust it long before I’d take anything from the grey market. I know people who have taken horse ivermectin and are very happy with it.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 7:34pm

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    Nextdoor Censorship

    I think someone else posted a comment about a thread they started on Nextdoor.com that was censored.  I also started one and was extremely careful not to mention any kind of drugs, just the link to the EVMS protocol and a note for people to talk to their doctor about it.  The post and all comments were removed within two days.

    My follow up post talking about my previous post being removed seemed to go a little better at first.  In that post I only talked about Vitamin D and how it's important to improve your immune system.  I'm pretty sure that one was 'shadow-banned'.  I can still see it but it does not appear on the main page anywhere...

    My favorite quote from one of my detractors:  "There's really no such thing as 'improving your immune system'".   OMG.  I guess I have some more work to do.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 7:50pm

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    Being censored on messenger lite and gmail for sharing this

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.30.20217364v4

    Admin:  Thank you for sharing.  Fascinating.  Chris will be reading up on this.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 8:01pm

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    Replying to Perhaps you don’t understand the rules?

    AKGrannyWGrit That guy is hysterical!  Thanks so much for sharing!

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 8:19pm

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    Realteal said:

    I believe you have to 'register'... it is FREE!!  and easy.  Chris explained their reasons for doing this... same concerns that many other sites have... they don't want to get 'scraped' and scrapped : )   We live in the age of Pravda-on-the-Potomac (& Hudson) now.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 8:23pm

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    Thanks Chris

    Just wanted to say thanks for keeping this good information coming. I know it's a lot of work and my whole family really appreciates it. -JB

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 8:24pm

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    bholtzman said:

    This upset me to the point that I just canceled my YouTube Premium subscription. I should have said something to my wife before canceling, but I think I was a bit too upset.

    In good conscience, I can't knowingly support a censorship and misinformation activity that's killing people like this.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 8:28pm

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    It's on the packaging

    The paste comes in a syringe for easy dispensing. The blue plunger has a scale on it. Each line is good for 50lbs of body weight. So, if you weigh 150lb, that would be 3 lines on the scale. That delivers a dosage of 0.2mg/kg BW.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 8:31pm

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    Ivermectin info

    If you can't find online dosage info (look for equine dosage) online, head to your nearest livestock & fodder store or veterinarian for a leaflet. Dosage is according to weight. The apple flavoured paste is reasonable.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 8:36pm

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    Totalitarians

    Censorship is what they do.

    That and kill their citizens, sometimes by the millions. And that may be coming.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 8:46pm

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    More on dosing using apple flavored horse paste

    I wrote a short exposition on the math behind horse paste dosing here;   https://www.peakprosperity.com/censored-most-recent-covid-video-banned-by-youtube/#comment-783715

    If you want to dispense approximately 12 mg, then you want 1/10 of the syringe, or 125 lbs (this is horse dosing lbs, NOT human dosing lbs) on the scale.  I think someone earlier in this thread implied that you can use this scale as human weight, and I would not do that.  Know how you want to dose, i.e. choose a protocol, then figure the dose based on the fraction of the syringe you need to dispense.  I used a 12 mg fixed dose in my worked example.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 8:55pm

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    Plenty of videos on you tube. Been using it for a month.

    Along with the rest of the protocol.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 8:55pm

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    Ivermectin‘s multiple effectiveness

    Ivermectin is effective against parasites, lice and worms and now has shown to be effective against SARS- COV-2 and antiviral in general. I wonder if it shouldn’t become mandatory in any politicians diet

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 9:03pm

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    My 2 cents, hope it helps.

    Use the horse paste. Wife and I are on it.

    I spent most of my life in south East Asian jungles, using all kinds of Out of date or improperly stored or off label use of medications, and lots of animal meds. No problem and saved my life on several occasions.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 9:30pm

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    Reply: Any US Docs Prescribe Ivermectin for Covid? (#42)

    rblevi01 - As with any other choice in life, you are ultimately responsible for what you choose to do or not to do.

    "May the odds be ever in your favor" - The Hunger Games

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 9:39pm

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    Realteal said:

    Did you read the introduction?  Chris explains the required free registration.... go back and read it.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 9:53pm

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    Chris is NOT giving medical advice !!!!

    Can't you read the DISCLAIMER !     Are you a troll?

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 10:11pm

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    ChrisMuss said:

    The dosage is the same for humans as it is for horses, 0.2mg/kg, also expressed as 200mcg/kg (that's micrograms, as opposed to milligrams).

    For humans:

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/ivermectin-oral-route/proper-use/drg-20064397

    And for horses (4 lines into the Abstract): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12887622/

     

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 10:42pm

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    "Ivermectin Treatment May Improve the Prognosis of Patients With COVID-19"

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030028962030288X?via%3Dihub

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 10:44pm

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    Another miracle anti-parasitic drug Febenozadol

    Hi Chris alot of evidence is emerging that Febenzadole (out of patent anti-parasitic) should be a frontline Cancer treatment. Appartly it attacks cancer cell via three routs
    1: Breaks down the microtubuala structures of the tumor.
    2: Shuts down the metabalization of sugar by cancer cells
    3: Unregulates p53 gene expression, the bodies own way to control Cancer.
    This is the "antidotal" publics stories.
    https://www.mycancerstory.rocks/

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 10:54pm

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    short article on Indian drug companies quality control

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/business/taskforce-finds-lapses-in-made-in-india-medicines/story-rDYjU70Tn3X3WqHSQPRimK.html

    Doesn't mention an SA enterprises, but I would be wary of taking drugs meant for animals, made in India, because the quality control would likely be less stringent than for humans. Bare in mind though, a lot of meds sold in the Western world for humans are manufactured in India.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 11:24pm

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    @Mark do not consume topical medications

    Mark - that link refers to a lotion which is applied topically. As far as I know all topical ivomectin formulations are poisonous if consumed by humans due to the other additives (as opposed to formulations intended for oral use or injection). Please don't encourage people to use these except for their specific purpose. In addition to the potential harm that people may suffer, the mainstream media and medical establishment will play up the resulting poisoning incidents in the same way they played up the aquarium HCQ poisoning incident.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 11:28pm

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    I tried sending my doctor the data - didn't work

    I sent her an image of the chart and a link to the article.

    She said she can't write the perscription unless the drug is formally approved for this specific use.

    This is in Israel.

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 11:37pm

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    Mark said:

    I'm sorry TamHob but where did I imply what you just went on about?

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  • Tue, Dec 15, 2020 - 11:58pm

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    @Mark

    Hi Mark,

    Sorry if I misinterpreted your intention. But you said that the FDA's approval of  a lice treatment makes ivomectin more attainable (in the context of a thread about using it for covid 19, which as far as I know only works for that if swallowed or injected, not if topically applied). So, I understood you as implying that the more available lice treatment would somehow be useful for covid. Which I can't see how it could be and potentially poisonous if consumed (which I have read people advocating on other forums). If you had another meaning, my apologies.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 12:23am

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    @TamHob Thanks

    I thought people were applying the horse paste topically but nope, that's just a flavored oral paste.  So I just deleted my comment.  Nevertheless peculiar timing by the FDA on that though?

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 12:28am

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    Thors Hammer said:

    Why wouldn't the Malignant Overlords censor any and all information about medicines that are too cheap and effective and threaten their vaccine boondoggle?  And stand in the way of Universal Vaccination and ID implants?  It's not as if they aren't sociopaths.

    After all they were able to test and verify the efficiency of their indoctrination techniques by convincing the vast majority of the US populace that the laws of physics were suspended in order for the 911 attacks to proceed and make way for the Homeland Security State.  Now we've just had an "election" in which the laws of probability were cast aside to the extent of reducing them to one trillion to one.  But 90% of the true believers from the Demonrat Party believe nothing is amiss,  along with half of the compliant Repugnants.

    "Delusion is the Opium of the People"

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 12:40am

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    The hoses dose per/lb is the same as the human dose per/lb

    The horse dose per/lb is the same as the human dose per/lb, they have just converted from kg to lbs. So yes just use the weight marks on the plunger. Take one full dose orally (by your weight) on day 1 and 3.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 1:13am

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    Cigarettes? ...and Sugar anyone?

    If it's hard to imagine how the truth about a therapeutic that could beat Covid could be suppressed, consider the analog cases of tobacco and sugar.

    The medical community basically knew that cigarettes were tied to lung cancer for *decades* before there were warnings. Likewise, food companies that benefitted from selling us sugary foods unfairly demonized fat instead (which can be healthy; think keto or paleo diets). I would opine that sugar is still America's most dangerous drug that most of us are still hooked on and it's killing us in ways both slow and fast. Consider how many people die from cannabis (zero, ever) compared to from sugar (according to the CDC (yeah, yeah, I know)  around 13%, and climbing, of the US population had diabetes in 2018!).

    Think about that: 13% of the US population (and climbing) with diabetes. Covid's bad for sure, but I think our poor diets may be even worse.

    But my main point is it may be helpful to think about how the truth got out around tobacco and sugar; and see if there are any lessons to be learned.

    I think the internet offers a lot of hope of speeding up this process, even if individual voices, like Chris or FLCCC doctors, can be temporarily ignored or even shut down, it's really a game of whack-a-mole. (of course not so fun if you're the mole) A good example is Dr. John Campbell whose Dec. 12th video argues strongly for Ivermectin. (watch the video, like it, share it!) At time marker 6:50 he says, based on clinical data, governments need to consider it. It helps that Dr. Campbell is about as controversial (but also nutritious!) as a big bowl of organic oatmeal. (for the record I love oatmeal.)

    Of course I don't know what will happen next,  but I'd hazard a guess that: 1) the truth about ivermectin's usefulness will be more broadly recognized in the US but it may take a few more months for this to happen and 2) the mainstream won't remember or apologize to those it criticized for making this change happen, but that's life.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 1:38am

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    @Mark

    Ok, so I am now seeing covid related conspiracies everywhere, so take this with a grain of salt. When I read that press release, I thought that the recency and specific mention of covid made it likely to come up high in a google search on 'covid', 'ivermectin', 'FDA' and 'approval'.

    As such, the press release seems like a deniable way to bait someone who didn't know much about the different forms of ivermectin but was looking for a safe source (ie FDA approved, just for a different use) to treat covid into using that product orally. For example, there was lots of reassurance that the product is safe, when used as directed, and the standard disclaimer re not approved as safe or effective for covid treatment and a contact if anyone is advertising it as such. However, that was it. If you were seriously worried someone might consume it thinking it could be used off-label as a covid treatment and poison themselves due to the additives like foaming ingredients shouldn't you include a specific warning about the additives and their potential effects? Or at least state 'not safe for consumption.' Rather than just repeating the standard warnings which are also used in the same way on all of the ivermectin forms which are actually safe to consume?

    So, yeah, the timing did seem suspicious to me, since it seemed like they might be fishing for cautionary tales ala the HCQ aquarium cleaner poisoning couple.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 1:41am

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    What is the schedule for prophylaxis treatment using ivermectin?

    Here is the link for the Ivermectin Prophylaxis Treatment Protocol:

    https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-I-MASK-Protocol-v6-2020-12-09-ENGLISH.pdf

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 1:45am

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    Not living in fear, but living prepared

    Been pounding down Quercetin, C, D 10,000IU,  multivitamin, NAC since you first started discussing them.

    Think maybe I got the ‘rona a few weeks back.  Massive headaches and joint pain for a few days, pretty tired, then it all disappeared.

    got on my first plane yesterday in over a year.  As a prophylactic took two doses of horse dewormer 5 & 3 days earlier.  Just in case...

    like you, I ‘respect’ the ‘rona, but don’t spend my days in fear of it.  Sadly, one of my kids is totally paranoid as a result of the reporting.  And as a 25 year old, of course he knows everything and his dumb dad (who paid for his education no less) knows nothing.  So he takes nothing. ☹️

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 1:50am

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    dnbndnb said:

    Correct!  I personally did the math as well to verify that.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 1:59am

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    Ivermectin Prophylaxis Treatment Protocol Information

    Here is the link for the Ivermectin Prophylaxis Treatment Protocol:

    https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-I-MASK-Protocol-v6-2020-12-09-ENGLISH.pdf

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 2:39am

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    Dr Paul Marik

    Someone should tell Dr Marik that hydroxychloroquine is effective when given early.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 2:41am

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    Is it possible to post this video?

    I want to post this video to the ivermectin groups on Facebook. Is there any way of doing that?

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 2:46am

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    Ivermectin groups on Facebook

    There are a few ivermectin groups on Facebook. It would be good to see lots of people joining these groups. Strength in numbers.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 2:53am

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    Vitamin C is also part of the protocols.

    Taking high dose vitamin C (to bowel tolerance) is highly effective in clobbering viruses but it should be started within the first few hours of symptoms.





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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 2:55am

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    RandomMike said:

    Well if you're  really worried about communications, why not pick a ham radio frequency(ies)?

    For the heck of it,  for SSB how about `1.95  --  3.87 --  7.27  -- 14.24 -- 21.32  ?

    I doubt if there are too many CW ops here, but chime in with those frequencies if you are!

    It could be called the "Horse Net."

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 3:07am

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    Re: Being censored on messenger lite and gmail for sharing this

    That's what Protonmail was designed for; go get a free account, at least.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 3:12am

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    VeganDB12 said:

    Dr. Marik has been interviewed on DrBeen and explained his position on HCQ-he removed it from the protocol because it has very limited utility since most people are diagnosed late when HCQ may not work and it has more risks. It has to be given in the first 48 hours as Chris stated, so he took it off in favor of IVM. I think he and Dr Kory deserve the Nobel Prize in medicine (and Chris deserves a humanitarian award).

    This is the interview with Dr. Marik (1 hour long but want to offer my source) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy1kdZhXsP8

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 3:42am

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    NikkoReed said:

    I have the same question!!!

     

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 3:52am

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    Love the cards

    Chris,

    I've always trusted your scientific approach to various subjects, and found your ability to translate complicated subjects to more a more understandable form, for us non-PHD folks, to be extraordinary.

    Now I think you are hitting your stride with the uptick in the infusion of humor in your videos, when the more natural response might tend to be just ranting about the insanity of not being able to speak freely in a "free country", and starting a prescription drug regiment to squelch the growing anger.

    The cue cards with the forbidden words bring a welcome levity to an otherwise gloomy censorship situation.

    And thank you for the continued non-sanctioned information regarding the benefits of Ivermectin. I had purchased the paste as soon as "the results were in" and took as a prophylactic. My adult granddaughter tested positive a few days ago and I was able to let her take it, without the delay of shipping or the ordeal of getting a doctor to prescribe it. Whether it is life saving or just not harmful, at least we knew there was an alternative treatment to the current approved advice of "go home and don't come out".

    SS

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 4:10am

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    Brave - video

    I'd watch the video ( registered for it ) if it loaded.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 4:16am

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    Most docs are protocol fetishists unfortunately

    It seems most GP's are protocol fetishists. The reason is, they might suffer serious consequences if they deviate from the established protocols, even if they don't agree with them. That might be the reason so many docs have stopped acting as docs, even if the facts staring them in the face tells them a protocol is wrong or outdated (it takes 10 -15 years on average for new science to trickle down into protocols - ask Prof. Borody lol, it took ten years for his triple ulcer therapy to become standard of care worldwide and make him famous; like now with his ivermectin+ protocol, he suffered intense pushback). Only a few GP's and clinicians have the intellectual capacity to read and interpret scientific publications, combined with the courage to use their brain and do what they feel is right. Obviously they should inform the patient if they going to go off label, but for GP's that's the only way to go in the present unfortunate situation if they care for the patient's well-being. Most will just want to cover their asses. GP's are crucial, because early treatment (and prep) is crucial. Regarding prep I should add dr. Kory said in one of his recent YT posts (wonder if it's still there on YT) there are no data regarding safety proving long term prep with ivermectin, but the FLCCC he's a figurehead of thinks 1 dose monthly is probably safe, especially compared to the risk of getting COVID-19 if you are in a high risk category. For treatment with 2 to 4 doses there are very few safety issues, if any. But it does not hurt to read the patient info sheet, like one should do before taking any drug. Just bear in mind the info might be wrong, incomplete or outdated.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 4:39am

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    Censorship on YouTube

    Dear Dr. Martenson,

    There are other channels on YouTube reporting about ivermectine and covid-19 that are not being censored for doing it, for instance Drbeen Medical Lectures and Dr. John Campbell. The former has had numerous videos about it, including a long interview with Dr. Paul Marik. The difference is, however, in the way they are presenting the topic. Perhaps you could check them out yourself and make your own conclusions. My feeling is that your approach draws the attention of the AI algorithms. Please choose your titles carefully in the first place. For example, stating explicitly that there is a cure for covid-19 would be equivalent to setting an alarm for the AI routines. Milder wording in the video can potentially help as well.

    Wishing you all the best,
    Milan

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 4:58am

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    Is Registration Free?

    My friends won't Register here because they think they must pay monthly. If registration is FREE, you might want to mention that fact prominently.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 5:17am

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    Can't Find Full Uncensored Videos

    Also, people coming here from YouTube can't easily find the page with the uncensored full video. You might want to take them to this page:  https://www.peakprosperity.com/war-on-truth/ instead of the general Welcome page.  Or at least make a prominent button that takes them to that page.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 5:17am

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    Chris be more resilient...

    You might consider also uploading your content to other platforms like bitchute, et al. I rarely ever go to youtube anymore. MOST of the video content I am watching is coming from other platforms now.

    Some of the most popular youtubers are uploading their content to multiple streams now and have been for a while. Some have built a following and are establishing a real presence on these other platforms.

    Usually they upload to youtube too but link all of their other platforms down below. IMO that is the most powerful way that you can fight against the censorship while protecting yourself from almost certain youtube banning at some point.

    Your strategy is good, but its short term and still relies on Youtube. At some point, there is a very good chance that you will be banned altogether there. When that happens all you'll have left is your website. Thats not the time to go trying to establish yourself on alternative platforms.

    Make yourself RESILIENT by uploading your content to multiple places now while you still can move traffic from youtube. Establish a broad base instead of putting all your eggs in Youtube's insecure basket.

    In the meantime you can still upload to youtube so you have nothing to lose except maybe 15 minutes uploading to different places.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 5:21am

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    bwusth said:

    I've never even heard of bitchute.

    I'm sure the reach there is a tiny tiny fraction of the reach of YouTube.

    I think they are smart to upload bootstrap teaser videos on YouTube.... then host the full uncensored videos on their own web site ( where they can control how they are presented and hosted 100% ).

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 5:34am

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    Ivermectin

    I am in Scotland and purchased horse paste ivermectin. Dosage is the same for us as horses which is handy. 0.2mg/kg body weight. 100kg needs 1 measure of the syringe.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 5:34am

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    Path Dependancy

    I think it's a matter of being dependant on the specific paths 'they' had chosen to go. In Germany we call it 'path dependancy'. In this case 'they' are dependant on a working vaccine wich is 'their' horse 'they' bet on. 'They' would lose their face if sth. like a simple, safe and cheap medication against lice, for example, would make all of 'their' work on a vaccine obsolete.

    And this makes it a matter of our beloved integrity. Most people aren't able to  change their view if this would force 'them' to admit that they made major mistakes. And the more fatal an error, the more difficult it gets to admit. And 'their' mistakes are now unforgivable so that 'they' will do everything to not need to admit.

    Excuse my English, greetings from germany

    Jens

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 5:35am

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    Have you considered BitTorrent for video distribution?

    Bittorrent is decentralized, cannot be censored and is super easy to use.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 5:39am

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    John Mark Hansen said:

    Same in the USA....been using it for over a month.  no side effects...

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 5:41am

    cowsmart

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    Ivermectin

    I am in Scotland and purchased horse paste ivermectin. Dosage is the same for us as horses which is handy. 0.2mg/kg body weight. 100kg needs 1 measure of the syringe.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 5:43am

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    cowsmart said:

    I also follow DrBeen and his coolbeens 😂

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 5:43am

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    groldi said:

    Maybe you should tell her that you've got scabies and lice. Both at the same time. 🤷‍♂️

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 6:02am

    Mots

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    RandomMike Ham communications

    RandomMike
    I pick 14.24 MHz (20 Meters) for intercontinental communications and also ca. 10.15 MHz (30 meters) using your suggested SSB on one of the slower digital modes (just fast enough for typing but also to include URLs for references to websites and pictures on the internet while conversing in text. By using low speed digital mode, we make a text record automatic for others to copy and read, and allow low power much more reliable communications that can be received around the world.  Assuming that you agree, which text mode do you prefer?

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 6:18am

    Mike from Jersey

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    Replying to Denied Ivermectin

    Rusty,

    The email that you received from your doctor is insulting. It contains no real explanation. It says that these - many - positive studies on Ivermectin have not been "peer reviewed."

    Well, we are in the middle of a pandemic. If you have more than a dozen studies showing Ivermectin works, I think that you deserve a more considered response than the response you received.

    Even worse, has the Pfizer vaccine been "peer reviewed?" Has the safety of mRNA vaccines in humans ever been established? Are you supposed to - without explanation - discount the many serious adverse reactions and deaths arising in animal tests of mRNA? Are you supposed to - with all these unknowns - obediently "vaccinate," allowing yourself to be a "test subject" for an unproven technology?

    To receive a blunt response like:

    “Treatment recommendation: I do not recommend Ivermectin for use for Covid treatment or prophylaxis. Continue hand hygiene, social distancing, masking. Vaccinate when available if no contraindications.”

    ... is downright insulting.

    The last time a doctor treated me like a vassal, I walked out the door and didn't come back.  I found another doctor who would treat my concerns with basic respect.

     

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 6:32am

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    No side effects yet from IVM prophylaxis

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 6:34am

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    ivermectine horse paste

    i am thinking of doing the same as you with the horse paste , did you found the ok from a doctor somewhere ?

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 6:35am

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    YouTube Censorship Algorithm

    Chris! I have heard before that it may be the case that YouTube can analyze visible text in your videos, too, and what it takes may only be enough for it to say "Ivermectin" in a title of an article that you have a screenshot of... and that it may be so smart you can't even use the signs as effective as you want either since the text is clearly visible.

    I was certain of this as I was about to comment here, but after 10 minutes of looking around I can't find a definite answer... as I don't remember where I heard it. But it is something to be aware of that may screw you over!

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 6:41am

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    re. Facebook etc. Censorship

    I set up accounts on Parler, Gab, and VK.com, to learn the interfaces on each one.

    The response to Censorship is simple: Cute Animal Videos !

    I have thousands of baby bird videos, and dozens of certifiably good ones.

    Simply don't post your "quality stuff" on Facebook or Youtube.

    As far as the "racist" and "pro-Russian" reps of those other SM websites:  I am extremely factual in my observations about race,  and 100% sympathetic to groups that Parler & Gab are known for bashing (Muslims & Black Lives Matter).  And I'm an American - who is DISGUSTED by Official America, e.g. CDC/NIH/FDA.

    Everybody who has been censored has a Profound Strength (or more than one) besides whatever they were censored about.

    Now that Facebook/Youtube have shown their "true colors" ...

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 6:45am

    brushhog

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    You're a dinosaur, lol

    Hard to believe you've never heard of Bitchute. I guess I remember older folks looking at me funny when I mentioned youtube back in the day too.

    Of course bitchute and others are much smaller than youtube but they are growing much faster. Content providers can help them grow faster by bringing their base with them.

    Styxhexxanhammer [ I know youve never heard of him either ] had a million youtube subscribers. He now has over 100k on bitchute.

    "Bootstrapping" the site to youtube videos is not a long term solution. He's still dependent on youtube, and he's going to be subject to their whims. They will either ban him at some point, or he'll alter his message to be in line with their narrative [ in which case there will be no point in consuming his content ].

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 6:45am

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    Tobacco and sugar.

    If you want a more current example, research the link between nutrition and cancer growth.  The information is available online but systematically suppressed by government and media.

    The accepted story is genetics and carcinogens, nothing about consuming nutrients that are known promote rapid cancer cell growth.

    The WHO has a global chart that shows cancer rates.  Wealthier parts of the globe have 4 times the cancer rate of the poorest areas.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 6:47am

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    Duravet Ivermectin on Amazon

    Has increased from $22.95 for three packages to $118.94 in a little over a week.

     

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 7:01am

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    IVM in fish medicine

    I cant be sure but I watched a documentary in which they discuss the toxicity of fish in our food chain.  I overheard that they use IVM as one part of a chemical cocktail to treat fish. Interesting I thoght and bring this up just because i thing its worth  discussion. The video is o YT and if you want the link ill put it up.

     

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 7:05am

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    there are doctors in this community

    I would highly recommend reaching out the PP family here... there are doctors that can help.  Also speaktoanmd.com has shipped me meds as well

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 7:16am

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    I might be biased, but...

     

    (Art by Ricardo Levins Morales)

    Greetings to all new Folk!  Evie, here welcoming everyone, and saying hello to the tribe!  What an “interesting”world to inhabit at this time!  Keeps us in our toes for sure!

    I wanted to say that I feel that Chris should be nominated for a Pulitzer, if that award still means something these days.  

    I’m behind the scenes here at Honey Badger Farms as his partner and his efforts are Herculean!  Chris cares deeply and works tirelessly to try and bring into focus, matters of not just human interest, but that which can offer true help to the masses, not knowing (unless people contact him), how far his message has gone.

    He receives nothing monetarily speaking for producing Covid videos (which take up much time), and IMO conveys what can save lives without sensationalizing the great pain that is felt globally.  Additionally, he scouts and scours to bring information here and distillate it further.  We farm together “on the side.” Lol. Whew!

    I honor this man deeply for how he chooses to express his genuine heart and mind.

    I honor everyone else here for finding their way to their own truths, and for bravely sharing and teaching one another at this site and outward...thank you for trusting yourselves.  Thank you for not being silenced.

    Way to go tribe! I think of you-of us all knit together in thought, intuiting that this alone is very empowering.  Thank you all for your contributions to this web of knowledge.

    Grateful to wake up to another day.

    Blessings to all,

    Evie

     

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 7:20am

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    LBL said:

    I ordered the 12 for $45 deal about a week ago, for the Durvet 0.6 gram tubes.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 7:33am

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    VAERS not updated yet

    The VAERS(Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) does not include the Covid vaccine under there vaccine products.  I read of some people having adverse event and was trying to do a query to see what the database has, but that information is nowhere.  Do you guys know when the VAERS database will include the Covid V.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 7:35am

    Mike from Jersey

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    Ivermectin‘s multiple effectiveness

    truthprosperity,

    Your suggestion that Ivermectin become mandatory in any "politician's diet" could be construed as a death threat against them.

    After all, Ivermectin does indeed kill "parasites, lice and worms."

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 7:45am

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    War on truth is maybe universal?

    First of all, I’m glad that Chis found a solution to the 1936-1940 nazi-like practices of the media, authorities, “experts” and obidient citizens. Ever wondered how atrocities can occur? Think and read no further: get some popcorn and watch the show.

    Having said that, I would be very careful with other politically colored information/stances... I thought that Sweden was interesting as knowledge is gained by variation... However, I also believe that “respect” for the Swedish approach is misguided. Lately, news can be found in several outlets that Sweden had near 99% ICU occupance (maybe some one here can falsify or confirm this), and, medical personnel is resigning in large numbers. Additionally, Sweden always had low excess mortality. Not because of Ikea meatballs or a “keep it real” mentality, but because of a confounder: fat fish + vitamin D. Their not adhering to the obvious misguided guidelines is not based on common sense, but on misguided ambitions. The effect of these become more and more visible, and it is not pretty: the resignation cycle of medical personnel is per definition a self-reinforcing cycle...

    BTW: I do not believe a lockdown was needed as of last August: vitamin D, ionophores, zinc, ivermectin, artemisia annua, hcq, quinine etc all could have reduced all this to a severe flu. My natural stance is that “the enemy of my enemy” is not necessarily my friend, but could just as well be a complete and dangerous fool.

    source: mortality, scroll to the bottom

    source: worldoneters deaths Sweden( there is a week delay in updates)

    source: medical personnel resigning.

     

     

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 7:50am

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    Why is this censorship happening?

    Not much about this censorship of HCQ and IVM seems to make any sense.  What would be the point of blocking stable drugs that could help millions of sick people?

    I worked backwards to try and work out what would trigger this extraordinary campaign of suppression of existing medicines.

    As soon as this virus landed in the US, the drug manufacturers decided that this would allow the production and sale of a nationwide & worldwide vaccine.  They want to sell this vaccine to everyone - repeatedly.

    What would stop or reduce the rollout of any covid vaccine?   Public knowledge that it could be cured with a common medicine.

    The first sniff of an effective remedy would turn off 70-80% of the population from taking that shot.

    * They realised very early that they had to shut down any thought of real treatment.

    * They had to deliberately NOT task doctors to test existing medicines

    * More deaths without any treatment simply increases the 'urgency' to vaccinate.

    Everything Chris has been horrified by, every article and report that trashes HCQ and IVM is simply a path to maximise the uptake of a vaccine.

    I looked at it many ways and this motivation is the only one so far that fits what we're seeing in real time.

     

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 7:50am

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    Unbiased COVID information

    I really appreciate all of your hard work dissecting the studies & data so that it can be presented in a clear & concise manner.

    I, myself work in a nursing home with a small outbreak of staff and residents.  Last week I got a weird rash, headache, severe fatigue, GI upset (may have been the zinc).  I asked my doctor for ivermectin for prophylaxis just in case (I get tested weekly for COVID & tested negative that Monday, awaiting this Monday's test.) She would not prescribe it, and suggested masking, distancing, washing hands.  I went to the horse store for the paste (I am also a pharmacist), and took a 12mg dose daily x 2 days (Math plus).  The next day I was feeling better!  Not sure if it was COVID or something else, but I know IVM has antiviral properties to other viruses as well.

    I have also been consistently taking Vitamin D, melatonin, Vitamin C, zinc, elderberry, NAC, quercetin.

    Thanks again for all you do!

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 7:53am

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    I still wonder about the origin.

    Unexpected detection of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in the prepandemic period in Italy

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 8:01am

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    Have you considered BitTorrent for video distribution?

    @blueshire

    I made a torrent out of Chris' original banned video and shared links before Chris reshared his on Vimeo.   As far as I can tell no one used the torrent I made.   Torrent's may be "too nerdy" for most people.

     

    We have to remember the real draw of Social Media and IOT is that absolutely every technical hurdle that could keep grandma from accessing is removed.   Thats why they have such astounding reach.

     

    But I do think that in the long run, some kind of a distributed peer-to-peer system is going to be required for citizens to share this kind of info as the noose tightens on us.

     

    Vimeo is just another platform that when leaned on will work to clean up "fake science" in the same way google does.

     

    I don't know anything about bitchute et al, but I would assume they ultimately leverage AWS, Google or Azure cloud services which will duly shut them down in the same way.

     

    Next, you could start a service and at great expense buy shipping containers full of servers and locate them near the backbone, but you still need to be connected by somebody subject to political pressure so its only a matter of time until that switch is flipped.

     

    Anyway, bitcoin seems to have cleared the hurdle of getting a lot of people to participate in something distributed and "untraceable" so I would still look to a torrent type technology as the end-game here.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 8:10am

    brushhog

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    Why the censorship is happening

    Well the first thing to realize is that the censorship ISNT only happening in regard to Covid. The censorship is aimed at eliminating alternative narratives about anything. The goal is to have only one narrative in regards to health, news, politics, finance, entertainment, genders, hobbies, and personal opinions about anything,

    The censorship isnt new, they kicked alot of popular channels off youtube before covid was ever a thing.

    In regard to algorithms; Some people suggest learning the algorithm and adjusting your content to bypass it. Again, this is a short term solution. Behind the algorithms and Terms of service [ and interpretation of said terms ] are PEOPLE.

    Those people make the algorithms and interpret the terms to get an effect. The effect is shut down alternative narratives. If you bypass the algorithm or manage to game their system to get your message through they will change the algorithm, or change the way they interpret the terms or [ more likely ] eventually just ban you altogether.

    The algorithm is not a end in itself, its just a tool being used by people who want to shut you down. If it stops working they'll use another tool. At the end of the day they will just get rid of you.

    What is coming soon at Youtube is going to be banning of people based on opinions and narratives they have pushed on platforms OUTSIDE of Youtube. They've already telegraphed this. So while you might trick the algorithm or try to use youtube in a benign way to funnel users to another site....thats a short term solution. You're trying to use their site to promote an alternative narrative which goes directly against the agenda of the people who run it. Its a weak position to be in, and I'd be looking for a longer term solution.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 8:16am

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    Where to get IVM

    Where are people sourcing their ivermectin? I've read of some people going into horse stores; I imagine one can try going to your PCP but that seems like an unlikely success as most docs are oblivious..

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 8:17am

    wotthecurtains

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    Durevet "Has increased from $22.95 for three packages to $118.94 in a little over a week."

    I order off the Canadian amazon site and its still the same price when I first ordered it about two months ago.   It ships from the US too...

     

    I guess Canada's press is even more tightly controlled and the population here even more docile than Americas which is rather saying something.   I don't think Ive seen any coverage of Ivm here though I don't exactly scour the papers.

     

    I did see something a few weeks ago about Covid treatments in Canadian hospitals and they mentioned that drugs like HCQ that are "proven to harm" are not used but thats it.

     

    As frustrating as it is to see the masses pushed towards the slaughterhouse like this, I am deeply thankful for the opportunity this leaves for the independent thinkers among us to act on the evidence.

     

    I find the concept of Survival Of The Fittest to be deeply morally troubling at times and yet it does seem like the least worst way forward at this point.   We can't all stay on this planet forever at a Western Middle Class lifestyle and people do actually have a right to be genuinely disinterested in whats happening.  To smoke their weed and play their xbox and drink their beer and just generally try to drown out the noise of people trying to tell them they don't have to live in fear.

     

    "It didn't have to be this way, but it is this way", as Fred Reed of FredOnEverything fame has said.   Govern yourselves accordingly

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 8:23am

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    @Iucounu
    Good thoughts.  Its also been pointed out that the vaccines we are getting were rushed through on an emergency use authorization.   A prerequisite to getting one of those is there has to be no alternative treatments.

     

    No alternative treatment is what makes the risk of a not thoroughly tested vaccine a reasonable one to take.  If there were cheap, widely available safe treatments to Covid then a barely tested vaccine would be an absurd risk to put on the public.

     

    Therefore "Dont listen to quacks who think horse dewormers cure covid and don't publish their names in the papers so as to protect the public from the misinformation they spread"

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 8:47am

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    rusty66 said:

    I just bought some at my local Tractor Supply for $3.

    https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/durvet-ivermectin-paste-187-608-g?cm_mmc=SEM-_-Google-_-DynamicAdGroups-_-AllSiteTSCExtAd&gclid=CjwKCAiA_eb-BRB2EiwAGBnXXgEgJTKfUmgymuSMEc8tIo4fGZ6a96Aigc-UgDHZ2unrgYkBFSbHNBoCpv4QAvD_BwE

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 8:54am

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    Mike from Jersey

    This is why I read the comments here. Excellent point.

    "

    Your suggestion that Ivermectin become mandatory in any "politician's diet" could be construed as a threat against them.

    After all, Ivermectin does indeed kill "parasites, lice and worms."

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 8:56am

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    Making Correct Assessments

    Assessments and claims need to be rooted in some sort of data and both need to be separated from assertions, which are usually just a claim without much if any backing.

    Accordingly, I've taken the liberty of editing a warning on Ivermectin posted at Tractor Supply to eliminate an assertion that has no data behind it.

    It is true that animal products have not been approved for human consumption.

    I cannot find any evidence at all that they have been evaluated in any way for human consumption in their current formulations.  So it's not correct to assert that these products "are not safe."

    I get why they would word it that way, but it's neither accurate nor correct.

    Further, it's kind of tricky to evaluate any further because Durvet is extremely cagy on their specification sheet.

    Only one ingredient listed.  That's not very helpful.  Based on my own experience with it, I'd be surprised if the vast bulk of the rest of the tube isn't some form of petroleum jelly.

    But that's just a guess.

     

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 9:11am

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    Paste info from Durvet

    SDS sheet for the paste is on Durvet.com,

    3 unknown ingredients plus IVM, here is lethal dose info:

    SECTION 11: TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION
    11.1. Information On Toxicological Effects
    Acute Toxicity: Oral: Harmful if swallowed.
    Bimectin Paste 1.87% (Ivermectin Paste 1.87%)
    ATE (Oral) 534.76 mg/kg body weight
    Proprietary Component A
    LD50 Oral Rat > 100 ml/kg
    Proprietary Component B
    LD50 Oral Rat 37.605 g/kg
    Proprietary Component C
    LD50 Oral Rat 3160 mg/kg
    Ivermectin (70288-86-7)
    LD50 Oral Rat 10 mg/kg
    Skin Corrosion/Irritation: Not classified
    Serious Eye Damage/Irritation: Not classified
    Respiratory or Skin Sensitization: Not classified
    Germ Cell Mutagenicity: Not classified

     

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 9:17am

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    NYT: will employers mandate vaccines for employees & customers?

    Short answer: NO!

    Alex Berenson on the author of said article: "the terrified dictator is strong in this one."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/12/business/dealbook/should-companies-require-employees-to-take-the-vaccine.html

    Depending on the poll you read, 40 to 50 percent of Americans say they will not get a coronavirus vaccine when it first becomes available to them. In a survey of firefighters in New York City, who are essential workers at high risk of infection, 55 percent said they do not intend to take a vaccine if offered by their departments.

    The possibility that large swaths of the population may refuse — or simply delay — getting vaccinated presents a perilous challenge to the health of the nation and the economy. Widespread coronavirus vaccinations are not only the best way to keep people from dying, they will also help revive business and the economy.

    There is a way to get greater compliance: Businesses, which have spent the past several years championing their social responsibility, can require vaccination of employees and, in many cases, customers.

    Over the past week, I spoke with executives at companies in various industries to see whether they intend to require vaccination of employees or customers. None wanted to speak on the record.

    Almost all said they planned to recommend the vaccine, but not make it compulsory. Several said that they have tried to create a culture of trust, and a vaccine mandate would undermine that trust. Others worried about legal liability if an employee had adverse side effects from the vaccine. Some said they would like to mandate the vaccine, but worried that a backlash could spiral into a public-relations nightmare.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 9:17am

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    We are all searching for Truth and Justice

    Chris and Tribe,

    Watched the teaser, about to watch the full PP version.  I was talking with someone about your videos and your presentation yesterday and we both love how you are taking a step-wise logical, based approach to this crisis.  This will prove most impactful when you reach an inevitable conclusion that will seem to defy logic.

    When I say crisis, I don't mean the pandemic.  The crisis we face is coming to realizations as a human species that certain "types" have "risen" to the top.  The MSM has done wonders on stigmatizing this way of thinking, but seriously, at what point can you no longer deny it?  It is staring us directly in the face laughing with violent avarice in its eyes.  A malicious, many-headed hydra that represents the worst all humanity has to offer - and they set policy, they perform elective surgery on our constitution without our consent.

    These are the same "managers" that preach green policies, yet prop up corporations that engage in gain-of-function manufacturing, gene patenting, planned obsolescence, terms of service that remove ownership/ privacy, and imposed scarcity.  All the while we watch our economy crumble under the weight of the Fed and their magic printer, no reasonable raise in wages for 15 years, under-employment, and astronomical real estate costs.

    Our managers have merely been enablers that profit immensely from turning a blind eye.  The true threat that is rearing its head now is that the people of many nations have allowed corporations to take silent control of their governments without the slightest protest.  We used to protest this sort of thing, but crying injustice about  deceased armed career criminals with intent to harm LEOs is what we protest today I suppose.

    K street has got to go - permanently.

    I see many comments on here asking "why the censorship," "why are they not using effective treatments?"  Shift your paradigm, and you will understand why this is happening.  These people don't want to help you - in fact quite the opposite.  These people think they are superior to you because you don't possess the same psychological defect as they do (sociopathy, psychopathy, dark triad) - they see it as noble ambition.  These people are Malthusian, Machiavellian, and subscribe to eugenicist ideals.  They truly believe there are too many people on earth.  Who are they to decide this?

    Who is "THEY" you ask?  "They" are many.  "They" are the loudest proponents of the vaccine and zoonotic origin theory.  "They" are too big to fail.  "They" are wealthy "philanthropists."  "They" are the talking heads programming normies to react violently to seeing a naked human smile.  "They" are the ones making you stand in line outside in the middle of winter to carry on typical commerce  so you can avoid getting sick.  "They" are your greatest enemy.  "They" are the enemy of logic and true human progression.

    Take care, all.  Though things may seem unbelievable during these times, just remember that the entire world has not been able to identify the origin of this virus and this is for a reason.  My bet is on the fact that there has not been a meaningful audit of any BSL3 and 4 labs at this point.  This is man-made.  "They" always use controlled opposition to achieve their victories as they are incapable of a fair fight (ie. logical debate, accountability, actual answers to legitimate questions).

    I have always liked this quote and feel it captures the spirit of our current time:

    "One of the artifices of Satan is, to induce men to believe that he does not exist..." - John Wilkinson 1836

    Stay frosty

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 9:23am

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    Please add some way to play videos at higher speeds.

    Please add some way to play videos at higher speeds. We, the youtube watchers, are kinda spoiled by that 🙂

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 9:29am

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    Thank You!

    Where has this information been? Just what Doc has been saying all along, but by many.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 9:34am

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    Should I be concerned???

    this is scary!  or is it??  can someone transcribe for us??

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 9:50am

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    Kat43 said:

    IVM is only safe for those people who can safely take it.  There are many common meds where it would be contraindicated to take concurrently.  Like p-glycoprotein inhibitors.  And it should be used with caution if certain other health conditions are present.  Like maybe asthma or liver issues.  I hope people are researching those details for themselves.  I believe I'm a good candidate but I'm hesitant to recommend IVM to many of my elder friends.  Still waiting to hear whether my doctor will prescribe it.  I did just score on a few paste tubes from Amazon that hadn't been drastically marked up in price.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 9:50am

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    RandomMike said:

    IVM Durvet safety sheet says IVM suspected of fertility and fetus problems. Quick search:

    https://www.drugs.com/pregnancy/ivermectin.html

     

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 9:53am

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    bvwredux said:

    The First Admendment doesn't apply to private speech.   A platform owned by a private party, such as Facebook, Twitter, Free Republic, YouTube, Google+ (when that was), and such, are not of themselves public platforms, they are private platforms.   Are they somehow public, that is there something, some force of law, of force of law philosophy, which "pierces the veil", or otherwise moves those private platforms into what is considered public space, where the First Amendment's REMINDER of human rights would apply?   There can be, we can find analogs in law history and civilization's rules in the course of human events to the situation as avails.  There are a number of "attack surfaces" at or along which one can consider these "deplatformings", bans, penalties, censorship, and acts which make a person "persona non grata", or which limit the particular or general expressions of speech, or create classes of membership status which limit benefits or create costings to some speech and not others, or some person's on account of their speech, known or anticipated, and not to others.

    Chris Martenson noted that the social media platforms of this time are themselves running on backbones and communications infrastructure which is public in part or whole.   Certainly any university of this era, even the private ones with only the rarest of exceptions, are public services and public goods, because so much of their support in money, in tax breaks, in many manifold forms of connection to government at the local, state and federal level, that it is impossible to say where the "private school" starts and the government or public establishment ends.   And it is unversities where Google and Facebook first started, on the internet which was once a DARPA project:  a project of the post WWII era, post sputnik "Defense" Department, not much different in ownership conceptualizations than the Interstate Highway system.   These, Facebook and Google, both thus birthed in the public womb.    And their data streams are carried, especially today, in the airwaves, 4G, 5G, wifi of all sorts, which is a public space and can never be non-public, like the air, except by grant of government, that is the grant of the sovereign of a land under law.     In America, land is privately owned, it is not a grant of a sovereign, likewise is  tangible items.   We have the natural right of ownership to things in hand, the tangible and to surveyable property.    Many places only own things or land as an allowance of the sovereign of that land, that is their law, but I like the ideal of American law on such matters of individual ownership, and I think that is clear from Divine revelation  that such is the true way of such philosophy of law.

    Yet that leaves the commons, things not owned by registered published deed, or by possession by individuals or groups of individuals in contractual association.   And the commons includes the airways, the electromagnetic spectrum, the world of ideas, and the public ways, harbors and rights of way.    And the commerce concept of the common carrier, and the marketplace concepts of a open market in a community, and the community's necessity of enforcing rules in the marketplace, and ensuring the peaceful and energetic commerce of places.

    Then too, we have the modern development of the anti-trust and anti-monopoly laws, those are good, but need care, as they are spotty confections, and as a law philosophy, as hard to keep in good order as the old Law of the Seas, something which is still a battle to align rightfully and peacefully.    That inchoat-ness is even worse in "IP" law, which is actually made a tyrant of law, a despotic form of law, because the giants are callous and greedy, and unrestrained by well grounded and understandable concepts of anti-trust and anti-monopoly.

    But a couple of areas of law, established law and conventions of making judgements, apply to the modern social media platforms to my mind:  common carrier law, and the law of  harbors.

     

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 10:05am

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    Bigfoot said:

    One of PP subscribers kindly posted the SDS toxicity portion for the horse paste...Durvet.  I compared this to other suppliers and it is similar to the Canadian version.  I believe one of the ingredients to be corn oil....hence the Vaseline texture IMO.  I read corn oil somewhere but now can't find it.  In any case the way I read the SDS, the ivermectin is the most toxic of all the ingredients at 10 mg per kilogram of body weight.  So for a 180 pound person (or 81 KG) that works out to 800 mg of horse paste.  Interestingly enough the Indian Government recommendation is 1200 mg for each of 3 days.   I think the SDS errors in stating a very low toxicity level in the their SDS to protect further.  Again in my opinion.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 10:14am

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    Disco Bear said:

    Your browser is blocking the display of the video because it is not on the preakprosperity.com website.  It is on Vimeo.com.  The HTML code being used is <iframe>.  I had that trouble some months ago using Firefox.  You can try a different browser or you can go to the security settings of your current browser and lower the setting.  This worked for me for a different website which I had problems with displaying iframes:  In Firefox click the three bars in the upper right hand corner of the screen and select "options" then click "Privacy and Security" in the left hand column and find the "autoplay" under "Permissions."  Click where it says "settings" to the right of "autoplay."  Add https://www.peakprosperity.com to the list of exceptions and allow both audio and video.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 10:15am

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    If the 'powers'-that-be were honest

    It's really simple. If they didn't want us to buy the veterinary version, they would grant Ivermectin the status of standard of care for Covid-19, and allow doctors to prescribe it based on their clinical judgement.  But instead they care now working to make it harder to get the vet version. We saw this coming, of course.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 10:33am

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    "Algorithms" are infested with black lists

    Google used to run strictly on algorithmic search.  Their exact algorithm was a trade secret but it was generally known to evaluate the links from other sites to each item in the initial search results.  The items were then ranked based on how many other sites referenced that result.  It was expanded to include they context of the linking, how popular the site doing the linking was and how often that result was selected in previous searches.  Other things were factors including the metadata and I'm sure the algorithms got much more involved as time went on.  Google searches gave people what they were looking for so they cornered the market.

    Over the last several years Google has progressively added human intervention to their search results to tilt the playing field and eliminate results the powers that be don't want shown or to bias towards some social or political end goal.  They added black lists so that if a search result includes sites they don't want shown they simply won't appear.  Black lists are not part of a true algorithm, they're a subversion of one.  There are many black lists applied to search results, some banning particular sites, some banning authors and some banning specific results.   Looking at results from some recent searches it appears they have created preference lists as well, where if a result is from one of a list of preferred sites or authors it will shoot to the top of the search results.  Since most people never go past the first page of search results this effectively blocks a wide range of other sites that Google hasn't yet determined need to be banned.

    If you want a simple demonstration of the political bias involved in Google searches, search "american inventors" at google.com and compare the results to a search for "american inventors" at bing.com.  If that doesn't convince you that Google searches are rigged nothing will.  BTW, until a year ago that search on Google didn't even show Bell or Edison.  They got added back in because so many people were doing what I suggested and aghast that they didn't show up.  Even with them included the bias in the list is obvious.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 10:35am

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    Quercus bicolor said:

    SECTION 11: TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION
    11.1. Information On Toxicological Effects
    Acute Toxicity: Oral: Harmful if swallowed.
    Bimectin Paste 1.87% (Ivermectin Paste 1.87%)
    ATE (Oral) 534.76 mg/kg body weight
    Proprietary Component A
    LD50 Oral Rat > 100 ml/kg
    Proprietary Component B
    LD50 Oral Rat 37.605 g/kg
    Proprietary Component C
    LD50 Oral Rat 3160 mg/kg
    Ivermectin (70288-86-7)
    LD50 Oral Rat 10 mg/kg

    So ivermectin at 50 times the recommended human dose kills 50% of rats.  Some research shows that humans experience no more side effects at 10 times the recommended dose than they do at the recommended dose.  Perhaps the transition zone from safety to toxicity is narrow or maybe rats are more sensitive.

    Proprietary component C kills 50% of rats at 3160 mg/kg or about 3 g/kg or about 200 g for a typical adult human.  Assuming it comprises 20% of the paste, we're up to 1 kg or 165 tubes to  have a 50% risk of killing a human. The other two ingredients are at least 10 times less toxic than that.  Of course, there are other risks: carcinogenicity, mutations, endocrine effects, reproductive effects. We have no info on those risks.  And I bet that the paste is more or less the opposite of   real, nutrient-dense food, so it's a good idea to limit consumption to help maintain a healthy diet.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 10:38am

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    johnsonbrown said:

    Yeah man I'm not sure what the real motivation is. It could be a financial reason or simply control. It's really opened my eyes to how far they're willing to go.

    I don't think it's a widespread conspiracy though. I think that the people at the top set the tone and our broken media just parrot their points. Since the media is compromised, they don't NEED a conspiracy; they can just do what they want without question.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 10:43am

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    Ivermectin Safety Profile

    From Bigfoot:

    In any case the way I read the SDS, the ivermectin is the most toxic of all the ingredients at 10 mg per kilogram of body weight.  So for a 180 pound person (or 81 KG) that works out to 800 mg of horse paste.

    Not quite.  The paste is 1.87% by weight.

    Further the LD50 (the dose at which half the rats died) was 10mg/kg.  So we'd like to be really very far away from that value safety wise.

    Now I don't have access to the actual toxicity curves, so I can't reasonably do that.  Further each animal species can be (and usually are) quite different, so a reading for rats is really just a starting point for further inquiry.

    But for the sake of education and clarity, if we said that 10mg/kg is an amount we'd really like to know so we can avoid it like the plague, the math works out like this:

    0.0187 X 6.08 g/tube = 113.7 mg per tube of Durvet.

    For an 81 kg person, then, the amount to avoid would be 81x10 mg = 810 mg.

    That's 7.12 entire tubes of paste.  So let's be really safe and suggest that nobody even think about taking 1 entire tube.

    Although this guy did and experienced some visual hallucinations (but entirely recovered in 48 hours):

    I copied this as a screen shot because I'm pretty sure that post will be deleted soon, either by the original poster or by Reddit.

    At any rate, an interesting anecdote.

    The usual doses being discussed as prophylaxis are in the range of 12mg to 18 mg.  These are in the range of 1/10 to 1/6 of a single tube.

    More scientifically, we have this study from 2002 that someone recently brought to my attention.  In purple highlight we see that even at doses 10x the recommended 200ug/kg IVM was well tolerated and didn't result in any significant issues of safety or tolerance.  Nothing at all was noted even at 10x the recommended dose.

    (Source - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12362927/)

    By the way "mydriasis" is dilation of the pupil so they were looking for some ocular effects as their primary indication of toxicity.  Fits with the "I ate the whole tube" guy's experience above.

    Not highlighted by me, but very interesting is that if taken with food, 2.6x more IVM made it into the subject's bloodstream.  So, take with food.

    Bottom Line: IVM looks very well tolerated even at doses 10x the recommended dose.  So doctors should feel very comfortable with this sort of extremely wide safety profile.

     

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 10:58am

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    Bonus coupon @KVSupply

    Just ordered a 5 pack and this came up AFTER I placed the order ;-/

    Maybe YOU can use it?

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 11:06am

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    Here’s one silver lining in the cloud of deaths

    VincetVeritas wrote:

    Our managers have merely been enablers that profit immensely from turning a blind eye.  The true threat that is rearing its head now is that the people of many nations have allowed corporations to take silent control of their governments without the slightest protest.  We used to protest this sort of thing, but crying injustice about  deceased armed career criminals with intent to harm LEOs [law enforcement officers] is what we protest today I suppose.

    With all of our focus on our sociopathic managers indirectly causing perhaps hundreds of thousands of needless deaths from untreated or poorly treated Covid, not many people here or elsewhere have much energy left to protest police shootings (Marxist-inspired BLM and Antifa excepted). Even one unjustified, unnecessary, illegal police shooting per year is one too many, and we should forever strive to reduce them to zero. However, bad police officers are rank amateurs in killing compared to our national health managers and their allied politicians and corporations. In an average year in the US, police kill around 1,000 people (over 95% clearly justified). Also in that average year, about 10-20 of those police killings are either unjustified and illegal, or highly questionable and debatable.  That’s 1-2%. So at the end of 2020, most people’s attention has been turned from that microscopic list of unjustified killings to the hugely larger kill of some of our medical, pharmacological and political managers. That’s as it should be; how it should always have been. Experts offer estimations that medical errors and malpractice unnecessarily kill 100,000 to 200,000 American souls in a “normal year.” But they’ve really upped their game this year, perhaps doubling their routine harvest. I look forward to the day when proportional attention is given to these problems, especially in the culture, the courts and the media.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 11:07am

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    SDS L50 Translation for thesecuritygirl

    Fellow PP member:

    LD50 is when half of the mice given the listed dosage die.

    This SDS info has both volumetric (mL) and gravimetric (mg, g) measurements, so you will need to know density or both the mass and volume of intended dosage in order to calculate potential hazards.  Another essential bit of information is the percentage of each component that is included in the entire mixture which you should be able to find.

    Be mindful that this could change over time dependent upon the stability of the paste (ie. degraded homogeneity over time, ingredients falling out of solution).  You might even be able to inquire on the manufacturer's stability testing results if you can contact them directly.

    This is the calculation you will need (for each compound individually):

    If ingredient composition is listed in a percentage, convert to decimal (%/100).  For example, if it says Proprietary Component A --- 50%, then you would use (50)/(100) which would give you 0.5.

    C=listed ingredient concentration,  D=dose mass or volume,  X=how much of these ingredients are in a dose?

    X=(C)*(D)

    Then to calculate the amount you would need to ingest to hit your own LD50...

    W=(your weight in lbs)*(0.45359237)   <--- kg conversion,  L=LD50 from SDS,  T=Your personalized LD50 threshold.

    T=(W)*(L)

    Now utilize both results from your calculations.

    If X is greater than T, then you have hit the LD50 limit with one dose (not good).  If X is less than T, by how much?  I am a risk-averse person, so I tend to err on the side of caution by going much lower than LD50 when I do these kinds of calculations as you should too.  Best thing to do instead of being your own pharmacist is to refer to the literature that is already out there.  What types of ivermectin products are the doctors using and what are their protocols?

    At a glance looking at these LD50s, I can tell you that ivermectin has the greatest potential toxicity with Proprietary Component C coming in second.  Not sure if there is an adverse event reporting history, but might be worth looking into if you are concerned.  I've treated a 100+ lb dog with ivermectin before for over a year, and gave him pretty large doses daily (as prescribed by his vet), so I don't see this being an extremely toxic substance, personally.

    Other things to consider is how long a dose remains in your system.  Does Ivermectin or these mystery ingredients bio-accumulate?  Do they reside in your fatty tissue for some time, or does your body pass this type of substance quickly?  Is it hard on your liver?  etc etc

    Hope I answered your question

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 11:14am

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    Horse paste ingredients

    my guess is that the base of the horse paste is made of propylene glycol and glycerin.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 11:15am

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    Mazman said:

    God bless Cambell,

    I wasn't entirely on board with Chris' alarm bell ringing until Cambell said it would be global too. So I got my second professional opinion and started to get supplies. I know he isn't as aggressive about this as Chris but he's been a great resource and you can tell he's trying his best to be scientifically neutral. Good news on his reporting on Ivermectin.

    I wish he could be knighted but it won't happen.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 11:47am

    zzzz

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    Thank you Mr Martenson

    A sincerely thank you for your reporting and work on the sars-cov-2 issue this year.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 12:21pm

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    Is that you?

    OOG that is a very interesting hat you are wearing. But why were you standing in the middle of a pile of hay next to a very attractive soft-eyed horse? Love the photo!

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 12:56pm

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    They use prop glycol in the oral sheep drench.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 12:57pm

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    FLCCC Prophylaxis Protocol

    I picked up some horse paste from our local farm supply. They had a big sign warning against unapproved use but also had dozens of tubes on the shelf. One worry is the packaging. Apparently OTC veterinary pharmaceuticals have not had their Tylenol product-tampering moment.

    I was planning on doing the FLCCC prophylaxis protocol based on a chart from EVMS. That protocol recommended 200 ug/kg doses on days 1 & 3 followed by a single dose every 4 weeks thereafter. That seemed reasonable.

    However I now find the latest FLCCC prophylaxis protocol on the FLCCC site recommends doses on days 1 & 3, followed by weekly doses for 10 weeks, followed thereafter by a dose every two weeks. That seems like a lot of ivermectin. I did the first two doses but don't think I'll go any further. At least I have it and know I can take it if needed.

    BTW, the apple flavored paste tastes terrible. Must be some strong medicine in there.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 1:01pm

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    Susan7

    Yes....that is me...The horse is named Justin. He is very sweet and kind. We rescued him from a Kill Pen in Bowie Texas about 1 year ago. The name was my idea....He was going to be shipped to Mexico to become Taco Meat. So I called him Justin cause we saved him Just-in-time.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 1:06pm

    Mike from Jersey

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    Replying to Why is this censorship happening

    iucounu,

    You wrote:

    Not much about this censorship of HCQ and IVM seems to make any sense.  What would be the point of blocking stable drugs that could help millions of sick people?

    This has puzzled me for a long time.  And I am not just talking about the Coronavirus.

    I have, on occasion, found articles in the corporate media which appeared to be knowingly dishonest about things that were not even all that important.

    I just shake my head in bewilderment at it all. It is almost as if they are engaging in "dishonesty is for the sake of being dishonest."

    I don't get it.

    And, yes, I know that there is a lot of money in these vaccines. But what if the whole thing blows up in their faces? What if the vaccine ends up being worse that the disease.

    That is possible. I don't think that will happen. But mRNA is a new technology, it has never tried before on humans, it has a checkered past in animal trials and it was developed in a rush.

    It is a real possibility that this could "go south" in a big way.

    In fact, the third severe allergic reaction to the vaccine has just been reported. Like the others, this person had to be hospitalized.  And this most recent case involves a person who had no history of allergies at all.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/alaska-health-worker-had-serious-allergic-reaction-pfizer-vaccine-rollout-suffers-hiccups

    And the vaccinations have just started.

    Don't they see the danger.

    I just don't get it.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 2:04pm

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    LyingEyes said:

    This war on truth has its foot soldiers outside MSM. Case in point. Steve Sailer’s blog on Unz Review attracts a lot of pretty smart people with a diversity of opinion. Whenever ivermectin is brought up it gets savagely attacked by a couple of the regulars. I’ve seen the NIH in vitro argument come up again and again…

    It is very cheap, and it kills the virus in the test tube.

    The problem is the same as with alcohol, which also kills the virus. Taking enough to kill off the virus in the body will kill you too.

    Sailer himself just denies efficacy…

    Ivermectin is a wonderful drug even if it doesn’t happen to cure COVID.

    Then there’s the blood-brain barrier…

    It’s a wonderful drug for killing brain cells. That is true. If it crosses your blood-brain barrier, your neurons are done for.

    Today’s posting is titled “Let’s Be Over and Done in ‘21” about how we all need to man up and take the vaccine. 171 comments so far, probably over 100,000 words, and not one single mention of ivermectin. Sailer himself moderates so he’s probably not allowing the discussion to stray from issues regarding the vaccine. There is some push back against the vaccine but a couple of the regulars always have a reply. One commenter in particular, “That Would Be Telling,” has ten replies (so far today) totaling 3100 words. The comments are well written, often the writing is better than articles I see in the MSM, and always the same NIH/CDC/FDA line. Is someone paying these guys? Seems like a lot of work if it’s just a hobby.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/sailer-lets-be-over-and-done-in-21/

    BTW, the Unz Review is definitely NOT SAFE FOR WORK. There are some very good writers on the site but lots of fringe opinion. 

     

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 2:07pm

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    follow the money and the limited liability

    If it blows up in their faces, they will have already raked in their 10's of billions of dollars and they will be protected from liability by the government--what's to lose? This is a relatively small scale "callous" event--my personal favourite is Mao's "Great Leap Forward" where he essentially killed 10's of millions of people on what was basically a whim.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 2:31pm

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    My Reality in Boise, Idaho

    I live in Boise, Idaho.

    On Monday I visited with a progressive DR who operates a cash only clinic that posts prices ahead of treatment. Cool, right?!? It's just he and his wife and a couple of office staff. They do not take insurance.

    To establish a relationship with his practice/office, I scheduled a consult. It cost me $100 for an hour of his time. He asked the usual questions that would pertain to my health and family history.

    The DR asked if I had the flu shot and if I wanted one. I declined. From there I asked about his thoughts on the covid vaccine and related treatments. To summarize, he is a #1 advocate for the vaccine and raved about the new technology and how it represents the future. To his credit, he also thinks we should work on building a healthy body and avoid medications.

    To dig deeper, I asked about some of the other options out there that could help people who get sick or could help people avoid getting sick by covid. I specifically asked what he knew about IVERMECTIN. Here's where it gets interesting....

    What's interesting is he began sharing how HCQ and other medications were not solutions and shouldn't be used. I asked him to circle back to the question I asked about IVERMECTIN. In short, he admitted he didn't know anything about it. NOTHING. Yet he promised me he was informed.

    I urged him to took into it. He agreed. Today I emailed him the material that Chris Martenson has assembled. I have to think he didn't even review it because this was his reply:

    "I reviewed the literature on Ivermectin. Like so many other medications, it shows in vitro activity against many viruses including COVID19. However in the largest observational studies it has not demonstrated a statistically significant benefit when used in sick humans with COVID19.

    Like many other drugs, it has been recommended that ivermectin undergo a randomized controlled trial to see if it has any real clinical effect. However, if it has an effect, it would most likely be a marginal benefit. Not a game changer. The sources you have sent me sensationalize ivermectin as a cure, that for some reason no one is using. That is sad and something I have been dealing with all pandemic.

    If you are interested in a cure-all for COVID19, I would recommend directing your attention at the vaccines which are showing really good efficacy, and starting to roll out as we speak. The most promising data is coming from the vaccine space.

    I will be interested to see if anyone ends up performing a well done, double blind, randomized controlled trial on Ivermectin either in the outpatient or inpatient setting. Then we will know if and how well this medication actually works.

    So I'm wondering if he's prevented from understanding due to the risks of being an informed DR in a world that can cancel you. So interesting!

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 2:32pm

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    Vimeo Playback Speed

    I would second the desire to play the Vimeo video at higher speeds.  That really is helpful.

    And Chris, Adam, and the whole PP team ---- your work is fantastic, much appreciated, and invaluable!  Thank you!

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 2:47pm

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    a wee crumb regarding censorship

    There's one paragraph in this article that had an interesting detail, regarding who is censoring and why.  It's under the headline "From conspiracies to radicalisation"

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-06/mum-thinks-the-earth-is-flat-saving-family-conspiracy-theories/12935984

    excerpt > "Initially, Moonshot CVE's focus was on jihadists and the far-right, but it has now reframed to preventing online harm in general, particularly from anti-vaccination, coronavirus conspiracies or QAnon."

    I don't see the big picture, but this might be a piece of the jigsaw.

    The rest of the piece is a somewhat tedious read.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 2:53pm

    Time2help

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    On Lockdowns

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 2:55pm

    Mike from Jersey

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    Reply to follow the money and the limited liability

    kenrobart,

    You wrote:

    If it blows up in their faces, they will have already raked in their 10's of billions of dollars and they will be protected from liability by the government--what's to lose?

    Actually, they have a lot to lose.

    I just dumped every last share of Pfizer stock that I own. I am not taking the risk. If things "go south" Pfizer's reputation and market share may never recover.

    But it goes far deeper than that.

    All status quo's rely on "belief" to keep them going as much as they rely upon anything else.  For instance, no one but no one thought that the Soviet Union would collapse. But it did. And it collapsed in just a couple of years. People simply gave up on it. If you knew the Soviet System, you knew that more and more people there were simply giving up on it. Even high level officials had given up on getting the system to work, they just wanted to retire and collect their pensions. But no one predicted that it would collapse like it did.

    Now, the same thing is happening in the United States and in Europe. Huge numbers of people are disgusted and fed up. The people at the top don't grasp it, but their "gas tank" of credibility is currently running on fumes. Just look at the posts on this site and many others like it and you can see the anger and disgust. It is everywhere.

    And I know from talking to many "ordinary folk" both here and in Europe that anger and disgust have become the norm and not the exception.

    The initial response to the virus has already been an utter disaster. It has been a disaster medically, logistically and economically. The main thing that has been accomplished since the virus broke out in March, is that people like Jeff Bezos and Elon Mush have become much richer. For everyone else it has been a disaster.

    If the vaccine proves to be a disaster as well, it could finally push things over the edge.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 3:17pm

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    Employers mandating vaccines..

    Dave the way I think its going to go;

    Right now they are disseminating the idea that once the vaccine comes out, life is going to "return to normal". Of course, we know only roughly half the population wants to take it.

    So they are going to hold the carrot out that if we get the vaccine everything will go back to the way it was. However, the selfish, ignorant, "anti-vaxxers" are keeping us all from getting on with life. Thats how they will ramp up the pressure and gain the support for vaccine mandates [ with the help of the big tech censors who will ban anyone who expresses hesitancy or makes an argument against the vaccine ].

    Of course they have no intention of returning us to "normal" so even if they reach the 80% threshold for the vaccine, they'll come up with "covid 21" which is already in the works in the UK.

    "Oh we were so close but the virus is just mutating faster than anyone thought" Back under lockdowns, masks back on, etc.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 3:46pm

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    LBL said:

    >> I just don't get it.

    Calculate total Covid19 billings for the "medical" industry.

    I'm trying to get better estimates.

    For now, $10K for non-hospitalized cases, $100K for hospitalized cases.

    Now we just need the percentage, how many cases end up being hospitalized.

    Anyway, it's a lot of money.  Probably safe to say, more than $1 Trillion.

     

    Obviously the "health care" industry is steering the situation to that circumstance which generates the most revenues.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 3:54pm

    Mike from Jersey

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    Replying to My Reality in Boise, Idaho

    From reading your post (and from reading the posts from others who have offered this information to their doctors) I get the impression that the doctors are not reading these studies at all. They are, instead, logging into some database that says "...Ivermectin has no utility in treating the Coronavirus ..." "... it has only been tested in vitro ..." "... no double blind studies have been conducted to ascertain its value ..." and so on.

    The responses all look as if they are coming from a script.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 4:27pm

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    LBL said:

    I got the best price by ordering 12x 0.6 gram tubes of the Apple flavored Ivermectin, originally for Roundworm in Horses.

    The dose I have seen mentioned for humans online, is 6 mg.

    That would mean that my 600 milligram tube has 100 doses.

    I dare say that getting recommended doses for an "illegal"medication online, might be a bit dicey.

    I have a friend in Pakistan and they are all taking Ivermectin & Vitamin D.  I will ask what doses they are taking and will try to get the details.

    Also when I take a new medication I always take a partial dose, like 1/10 or 1/2, just to see if I have a bad reaction to it.  That's for the "approved" meds.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 6:26pm

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    I Have No Idea

    Why anyone is bothering with stupid apple flavored paste and trying to calculate how much to take.

    Just order it online from India. It comes as 12 mg. tabs. You can order doxycycline as well. As a bonus the doxycycline comes with a probiotic included.

    They ship it out upon payment. The only holdup is how long it takes to get through customs.

    Why overthink this and make it complicated?

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 7:24pm

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    WebTorrentIsDaKey said:

    Being a hobby archivist, I would like to download a copy of this video since content is being removed left and right from the internet.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 7:26pm

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    Censorship

    Censorship discussions are click bait.

    I just had this discussion today with a lawyer. The Federal code takes up over 22' of space on a shelf. That is just the Federal code. Do all laws get enforced? No. If you show up on somebody's radar you will be prosecuted.

    The Airline bailout was what? $25 billion? It included "strings" like social distancing on the planes. My lawyer friend has to fly a lot. That "string" is unraveled. The planes he gets on are packed. Anyone enforcing that? No.

    Point being laws are a convenience or an inconvenience depending on the situation. It is not the laws that matter it is the enforcement that matters. People can prattle on about censorship all they want but it will not change one iota of the situation. The government is a wholly owned subsidiary of corporate Amerika. Corporations break the law with impunity because they know they will not be prosecuted. And if they are the individuals will not be prosecuted the Corporation might be required to pay a fine. That fine is far less than the profit to be made by breaking the law. Just ask Jamie Dimon.

    You and I as proles are utterly powerless to effect any change whatsoever.

    The control of the narrative is utterly complete and out of our hands. Complaining is nothing more than mental masturbation.

    I have posted "The Century of Self" numerous times. Here it is again. It documents the work of Edward Bernays the father of propaganda. It is all about control of the narrative. The narrative is currently controlled by 6 corporations. Those 6 corporations derive a great deal of income from corporations like big pharma. The control of the narrative is scientific, and driven by money. Thus complaining is futile, it will change absolutely nothing. This site is at its best when it shares information which allows "workarounds"





    May the farce be with you

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 7:41pm

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    india pharmacy

    Could you provide a link to a reliable source you have used? Thanks

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 7:59pm

    Mohammed Mast

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    Indiamart

    You can find SA Enterprises there.

    Ask for Sunil. Quickest way is Whatsapp (text). Communication is very quick for India.

    https://www.indiamart.com/saenterprises-nagpur/about-us.html

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 8:22pm

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    Canadian Doctor Speaking Out

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR0mIFR4Wa5DJDKTCtNSNcfElzlkwFzbdke8Nn7lu2swyFYaMu-ikF3X1ig&v=Z6EiXQqZ0Gs&feature=youtu.be

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 8:33pm

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    doctor nurse

    The first people they are using the vaccine on are doctors and nurses. If this goes south and the virus works it's way around this vaccine it will take out are front line troops! This is one hell of a risk to take.

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 8:54pm

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    Section 230

    What is your opinion on repealing Section 230?

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 9:42pm

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    Another Canadian Doctor Speaking Out

    https://vimeo.com/485062851?ref=fb-share&fbclid=IwAR3kHmWTOkBchG1dZuquMqYgTI5EEnDKbgZUS2PeDEb-kdFVBjVC-5i5aMA

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 9:50pm

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    Officials withhold approval of Hydroxychloroquine-Ivermectin and company

    So that the U.S. vaccine could receive emergency approval. (Sorry, the source has gone walkabout.)

    They have blood on their hands. For this and so much more.

    Not to worry, though. The Recording Angel records all.

    F

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 10:10pm

    Blaggers

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    Great Barrington Declaration

    As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection.

    https://gbdeclaration.org/

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  • Wed, Dec 16, 2020 - 11:41pm

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    Frisian said:

    Hi Chris. Same here. I'm getting a "cannot be played because of privacy settings" error.
    On Edge Firefox and Vivaldi. Is this the adres? https://player.vimeo.com/video/491379544
    Anyway, tried to lower my stettings but that doesn't work.

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 12:41am

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    Re: Doctor Nurse

    Doctor, nurse & military

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 2:04am

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    CNN: Don't Be Alarmed If People Die

    The message, below, suggests we shouldn't be alarmed if people die following vaccination in nursing homes - because people die in nursing homes all the time.
    Except when they die after getting COVID, in which case we should definitely be alarmed.  We should panic, actually.  Even though people die in nursing homes all the time.
    Its all a grand experiment, arranged by Pharma, and paid for by you and me.
    "One of the things we want to make sure people understand is that they should not be unnecessarily alarmed if there are reports, once we start vaccinating, of someone or multiple people dying within a day or two of their vaccination who are residents of a long-term care facility. That would be something we would expect, as a normal occurrence, because people die frequently in nursing homes."

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 3:52am

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    Damn, @davefairtex,

    you nailed that perfectly!

    Kudos, mate!

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 4:34am

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    Getting Ivermectin

    India seems to be having no problems finding, producing and using Ivermectin.  In fact the "go to" treatment for Covid is quadruple therapy.

    Here's a place that sells it for (drum roll please...) a whopping $1.73 per package.

    https://www.rxindia.com/medicines/medicines-by-therapeutic-class/covid-19/ziverdo-kit/

    Heck it's even on sale.  Was $2.04, now it's only $1.73.  15% off!  🙂

    Sweet holy hell...what is even wrong with the country I live in?  How is it that I am living in a place of such barbaric intent that my only options are to remain in lockdown while awaiting a hastily slapped-together vaccine that will do God only knows what over the long term?

    From the website:

    Quadruple Therapy with Ivermectin is effective in treating COVID-19
    Referring to a pre-official release of a randomised controlled trial using Ivermectin in three doses in primary contacts of COVID-19, It is said that 93 % of primary contacts who received Ivermectin did not develop any symptoms and 58 % of primary contacts who did not receive Ivermectin did progress to have symptoms of the pandemic.

    “Quadruple Therapy includes Ivermectin 12 mg one dose, Doxycycline 100 mg once a day for four days, Zinc 50 mg once a day for four days and Vitamin D3 once a week. Ivermectin, Doxycycline and Zinc are to be repeated every 14 days and Vitamin D3 every week with blood levels monitored. The synergistic effect of these medicine acts to prevent viral multiplication and also stop the virus from entering human cells.

    Thomas Borody, an Australian gastroenterologist who is known for curing peptic ulcers with triple antibiotic therapy, has revealed that one block in South America that received Ivermectin combination prophylaxis did not contract coronavirus infection while others did,” he said.

    ^^THAT^^ my friends, is what it sounds like to live in a civilized country.

    We are truly through the looking glass here in the 'developed' world.

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 4:55am

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    IMPORTANT: Dr Paul Marik Webinar/Conference Today

    The esteemed critical care specialist Dr Paul Marik will be giving a press conference today at 11:00 est.  It's a 15 minute presentation followed by 45 minutes of Q&A.

    I'll be tuning in.

    EDIT - Here's a link to YouTube to just tune into the livestream without having to register: https://youtu.be/sBAE0RO_vHw

    Registration is required (scroll to bottom of link):

    Prevention & Early Treatment of COVID-19: a Webinar with Professor Paul Marik, MD

    From the website:

    Today, there is a crisis in hospitals in the US and many other countries, where C19 is not treated before hospitalization. Yet a key to resolve the crisis is the prevention and early treatment of the disease, at home, or even in nursing homes. Indeed, with prevention and early treatment, the odds of hospitalization are substantially reduced.

    On April 24, Professor Paul Marik and his team released a first “MATH+” treatment protocol, covering the various stages of the C19 disease. Already in May, covexit.com was pleased to feature an extensive interview with the esteemed Professor Joseph Varon, a colleague of Professor Marik, who explained in detail the recommended treatments for the various stages of the disease, and already emphasized the importance to treat it as early as possible, before any hospitalization.

    What this webinar is all about is to help you to fully understand the rationale of this protocol and how best to use it.

    We are pleased to welcome as a speaker for the webinar none other than Professor Paul Marik, MD, the principal author of the i-Mask+ and MATH+ protocols and their multiple updates.

    Professor Marik has worked in various teaching hospitals in the US since 1992. He is board certified in Internal Medicine, Critical Care Medicine, Neurocritical Care and Nutrition Science.

    Professor Marik is currently Professor of Medicine and Chief of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine, Eastern Virginia Medical School in Norfolk, Virginia.

    Professor Marik has a distinguished academic record, having authored or co-authored over 400 peer reviewed journal articles, 50 book chapters and authored four critical care books.

     

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 5:04am

    KathyP

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    Getting Ivermectin

    Sigh.  Truly discouraging.

    I'd wondered when something like this kit would become available after the kit issued by the government of uttar pradesh was revealed.

    Sadly, this kit appears to require a prescription, which as others on this site can attest, is difficult, if not impossible to acquire.

    Maybe Sunil could put something together like this which doesn't require a prescription.  I've ordered all of the components (except the readily available vitamin supplements) from him without prescription, so maybe it'd be possible for him.  It would sure beat the horse paste we've been reduced to needing.

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 5:40am

    bewisedontcircumcise

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    Vimeo has changed playback speed

    I had it set to 2x play in Vimeo and thus here, it plays at that. I go back to some random vimeo video to set at 1x, the option to correct it is removed.

    Pergaps, try a better quality service like LBRY.

    Vimeo will censor you just as quickly as youtube.

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 5:42am

    Mohammed Mast

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    winnietheflu

    It should be repealed along with protections to big pharma.

    Never gonna happen though.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/12/13/section-230-big-tech-free-speech-donald-trump-column/3883191001/

    The parallel universe we live in is the "free speech " of Silicon Valley (Google. Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, etc.)is "protected" but the "free speech" of the citizens is not.

    Orwell was a fucking optimist. Welcome to the United States of China

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 6:09am

    Mike from Jersey

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    Replying to Section 230

    Winnie, you wrote:

    What is your opinion on repealing Section 230?

    Here are my thoughts.

    In relation to the Section 230.  The most offensive part of that section immunizes companies like Twitter, Facebook and YouTube from suit for activities defined under this subsection:

    (A) any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected.

    Note the terms that in bold.

    First, as to the "good faith" requirement - it leaves open an avenue for suit against platforms like Facebook, Twitter, etc., if they, as internet providers, did not "act in good faith" when restricting information. That clearly leaves Facebook, YouTube, etc., open to suit. However, there is little evidence that such suits are being successfully brought. This is probably because such suits would need to prove "bad faith" as a predicate for liability. That requirement could be construed to require one to prove the "state of mind" of the provider. That is a requirement that historically has been difficult to meet. One can only conclude that the exception is too weak (in light of corporate legal power) to effectively stop the abuses we are seeing.

    Second, the clause allowing the deletion of material found to be "otherwise objectionable" opens the door to complete censorship since reasons can be given to "object" to just about any type of information.

    Obviously, the immunity subsection of 230 is not protecting the public interest in Freedom of Speech as well as Freedom of Information which has (on occasion) been held to be implicit in Freedom of Speech.

    Should the immunity subsection of 230 be repealed?

    I think it should be amended to allow suits against giant platforms that reach a specified market size where - by virtue of  that very market size - their actions can become impediments to free speech. These larger companies can afford legal departments as a cost of doing business. On the other hand, to repeal it entirely would put smaller sites like this one at risk of corporate legal attacks whose real purpose was - not to expand Freedom of Speech - but to deny it. For instance, Big Pharma could bury small (but potentially threatening) sites like this one in litigation expenses that the smaller sites cannot afford.

    Another option is to amend anti-trust laws to specifically authorize suits to break up giant media organizations whose very size constitutes a threat to Freedom on Speech. The basis of the anti-trust amendment would be that such media monopolies could collude to prevent access to a diversity of information. The collusion to obstruct free access to a diversity of information is exactly what is happening now. Actually, current Anti Trust law is broad enough to allow such suits. However, in recent years the "public interest" aspects of Anti Trust laws have largely been ignored.

    Of course, realistically, there will be no change in the law since the people who actually run this country want neither "Freedom of Speech" nor "Freedom of Information."

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 7:32am

    Mike Graham

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    Why treatments are being suppressed by NIH,CDC and FDA

    The answer to why all these effective treatments are being suppressed is because of the statutory requirements to gain EUA for vaccines see below, especially the one in bold.

    III. CRITERIA AND CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE ISSUANCE OF AN EUA FOR A
    COVID-19 VACCINE
    On February 4, 2020, pursuant to section 564(b)(1)(C) of the FD&C Act (21 U.S.C. 360bbb3(b)(1)(C)), the Secretary of HHS determined that there is a public health emergency that has a
    significant potential to affect national security or the health and security of United States citizens
    living abroad, and that involves the virus that causes COVID-19. On the basis of such determination,
    on March 27, 2020, the Secretary then declared that circumstances exist justifying the authorization
    of emergency use of drugs and biological products during the COVID-19 pandemic, pursuant to
    section 564(b)(1) of the FD&C Act (21 U.S.C. 360bbb-3(b)(1)).
    3
    Based on this declaration and determination, FDA may issue an EUA after FDA has determined that
    the following statutory requirements are met (section 564 of the FD&C Act (21 U.S.C. 360bbb-3))
    (Ref. 3):
    • The chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear (CBRN) agent referred to in the March 27,
    2020 EUA declaration by the Secretary of HHS (SARS-CoV-2) can cause a serious or life threatening disease or condition.
    • Based on the totality of scientific evidence available, including data from adequate and well controlled trials, if available, it is reasonable to believe that the product may be effective to
    prevent, diagnose, or treat such serious or life-threatening disease or condition that can be
    caused by SARS-CoV-2.
    • The known and potential benefits of the product, when used to diagnose, prevent, or treat the
    identified serious or life-threatening disease or condition, outweigh the known and potential
    risks of the product.
    There is no adequate, approved, and available alternative to the product for diagnosing, preventing, or treating the disease or condition.

    In the case of investigational vaccines being developed for the prevention of COVID-19, any
    assessment regarding an EUA will be made on a case by case basis considering the target population,
    the characteristics of the product, the preclinical and human clinical study data on the product, and
    the totality of the available scientific evidence relevant to the product.
    3 This EUA declaration is distinct from, and is not dependent on, the declaration by the Secretary of HHS

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 7:36am

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    Hiding from Google & uncensored search engines?; Section 230; IVM sourcing

    Why the soft wall?  Because our biggest foes are scammers, spammers, bots, and Google’s prying eyes and spiders which will scrape our content and potentially misuse it against us.

    Hiding from major battlefields will only help them, and bring you less new readers/viewers and subscribers. More importantly, you do want non-censored search engines to find/scrape your content. How are scammers a problem? Bots can be stopped by implementing captchas for posting when a user has less than X posts (there's probably a wordpress module/plugin for this). Silly spammers wasting their time because they don't understand nofollow can be an issue, perhaps you could designate volunteer forum regulars as moderators for the task of removing their posts? Or implement a "report as spam" button that will auto-hide likely spam posts if X people have reported it or if the views-to-spamreports ratio is below X, if there is a wordpress plugin for that.

    Styx's excellent analysis of Section 230 and why Trump is wrong about it and seemingly playing into the hands of Big Tech:





    Another source for IVM that I can vouch for is Naresh Pharma on IndiaMart.

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 7:44am

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    Canuck21 said:

    Because at least here in Canada, Customs will confiscate it.

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 7:45am

    Mike Graham

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    Why treatments are being suppressed by NIH,CDC and FDA

    III. CRITERIA AND CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE ISSUANCE OF AN EUA FOR A
    COVID-19 VACCINE
    On February 4, 2020, pursuant to section 564(b)(1)(C) of the FD&C Act (21 U.S.C. 360bbb3(b)(1)(C)), the Secretary of HHS determined that there is a public health emergency that has a significant potential to affect national security or the health and security of United States citizens living abroad, and that involves the virus that causes COVID-19. On the basis of such determination, on March 27, 2020, the Secretary then declared that circumstances exist justifying the authorization of emergency use of drugs and biological products during the COVID-19 pandemic, pursuant to section 564(b)(1) of the FD&C Act (21 U.S.C. 360bbb-3(b)(1)).3
    Based on this declaration and determination, FDA may issue an EUA after FDA has determined that the following statutory requirements are met (section 564 of the FD&C Act (21 U.S.C. 360bbb-3)) (Ref. 3):

    • The chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear (CBRN) agent referred to in the March 27, 2020 EUA declaration by the Secretary of HHS (SARS-CoV-2) can cause a serious or life threatening disease or condition.
    • Based on the totality of scientific evidence available, including data from adequate and well controlled trials, if available, it is reasonable to believe that the product may be effective to prevent, diagnose, or treat such serious or life-threatening disease or condition that can be caused by SARS-CoV-2.

    • The known and potential benefits of the product, when used to diagnose, prevent, or treat the identified serious or life-threatening disease or condition, outweigh the known and potential risks of the product.

    There is no adequate, approved, and available alternative to the product for diagnosing, preventing, or treating the disease or condition.

    In the case of investigational vaccines being developed for the prevention of COVID-19, any
    assessment regarding an EUA will be made on a case by case basis considering the target population,
    the characteristics of the product, the preclinical and human clinical study data on the product, and
    the totality of the available scientific evidence relevant to the product.
    3 This EUA declaration is distinct from, and is not dependent on, the declaration by the Secretary of HHS

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 7:52am

    Netlej

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    Only possible way to roll out an mRNA vax.

    Thanks Mike for pointing that bit out.

    Seems clear that the only possible way to roll out an mRNA vax is by getting the EUA. If it had to go through the usual process all that scrutiny and publicity would surely get people up in arms. This way they don't even need approval.

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 8:49am

    Mike from Jersey

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    EUA

    That is a very interesting observation.

    Real treatments like Ivermectin have to be suppressed so that when Big Pharma makes its application for an EUA, there is no "... adequate, approved, and available alternative ..." for treating the illness.

    The lack of an available alternative qualifies Big Pharma to sell their latest and greatest.

    And I can just see how it would work. "Experts" hired by Big Pharma would "volunteer" their "expertise" to Facebook, Twitter, Google, the Corporate Media and maybe even medical journals and others to "advise them of the danger that fringe theories" might "impede the approval of a much needed vaccine." They would advise those platforms that "for the public good" "fringe theories" must be deleted, opposed, debunked and so on.

    "Lives are at stake," they say.

    The censorship machine goes into overdrive.

    Big Pharma gets its EUA, along with a ton of profits.

    The rest of us get the vaccine, the bill and maybe anaphylactic shock.

    Okay, this is pretty cynical but is it any more far fetched than the article which was published in The Lancet. That article (which The Lancet was forced to retract) ended up being shown to be a designed hit piece.

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 9:36am

    Mary59

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    Blasting Good Paragraph

    From an acquantaince of mine.
    So let’s try and understand this.  "The Chinese biological laboratory in Wuhan is owned by Glaxo ... who, by chance, owns Pfizer! (the one who produces the vaccine!) ... which, by chance, is managed by Black Rock finances ... who, by chance, manages the finances of the Open Foundation Company (SOROS FOUNDATION)! ... which, by chance, serves the French AXA! ... and coincidentally, he owns the German company Winterthur ... who, by chance, built the Chinese laboratory in Wuhan! ... which accidentally bought by the German Allianz ... which, incidentally, has Vanguard as a shareholder ... which is a shareholder of Black Rock ... which controls the central banks and manages about ONE THIRD of the global investment capital ... which, incidentally, is a major shareholder of MICROSOFT, the property of BILL GATES! ... who happens to be a shareholder of PFIZER (which sells the miracle VACCINE) and is currently the first sponsor of WHO !!!
    If it is not clear enough ......a bat came in and grabbed the SNAKE and the ENTIRE PLANET became infected?

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 9:42am

    Tim Puffer

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    Getting Ivermectin Question

    @Chris Martenson -

    Did you purchase the Ivermectin kit from the link you posted? Was there an expected arrival date?

     

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 10:23am

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    Dr. Marik webinar video

    Professor/Doctor Marik gives us Chapter and Verse on his prophylaxis, post-exposure, and early-treatment protocols.  It is 1:47:00.  I learned new things watching this video.  Interestingly: viral fragments (in the later disease state) rather than live virus is what causes our immune system to go nuts.  First thirty minutes is him explaining the protocols.  The lucky viewer gets a free class in COVID-101 from Professor-Doctor Marik.

    [EDIT]

    Replaced "newly private" youtube video with the covexit link:

    https://covexit.com/webinar-with-professor-paul-marik-the-prevention-outpatient-treatment-of-c19/

    The man has both credentials and life experience.  His first experience was in an ICU in Soweto, South Africa.

    Very solid guy.  He clearly cares about making people better.  He doesn't want to get this virus.  He takes every precaution.

    Early treatment is key.

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 10:38am

    JTMan

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    Sounds reasonable to me....

    I don't find your hypothesis cynical or far fetched at all. It seems entirely reasonable to me.

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 10:41am

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    Censorship Motives

    Censorship is NOT just in the COVID-19 topic area.  It is across the board.  So why?  What are the motivations?

    In my view, the answer is that the US economy must be destroyed.  COVID-19 quarantines and suppression of cheap therapies have 1st order destructive economic effects.   As do riots in our major cities, censorship and free speech suppression in universities, collapsing educational performance in k-12 public schools, offshoring manufacturing, exponentially growing debts (>100% GDP), etc. ....

    The beneficiaries are the CCP and non-state entities like World Economic Forum and the "Great Reset".

    We are on verge of entirely losing our individual liberty.

    Chris,

    As you did with your original "Crash Course", I urge you to look at the intersecting foundational issues and forces that are undermining individual liberty in the US and western world at large.  I think you will find that recent censorship trends are being driven by global resource depletion and the plans of "globalist" to manage that terminal reality.   In the case of CCP, it is grab for global resources for China.  In the case of WEF, it is totalitarian rule for "good or us all" - with special emphasis on protecting the privileges ($$/power) of the "Elites."  In both cases, the US is an obstacle that must be suppressed, if not destroyed.

    Respectfully.

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 11:12am

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    The War on Truth couldn’t possibly get worse, could it?

    https://www.barnhardt.biz/2020/12/10/whats-coming-next-all-speech-not-declaring-how-much-better-everything-is-will-be-banned/

     

    The next thing that will be censored will be any COMPLAINTS, or public manifestations of UNHAPPINESS or SUFFERING of any kind due to CoronaScam and the collapse into Marxist totalitarianism.  So, for example, the video of the restaurant owner in Los Angeles who had been shut down after erecting outdoor seating space, only to find the next day that Hollywood perverts had set up identical outdoor seating space for a movie production – THAT video will be banned.

    The video I just saw today of a miles-long food bank line in California – THAT WILL BE BANNED.

    NO ONE WILL BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK AGAINST THE GLORIOUS REVOLUTION.

    All that will be permitted – IF BIDEN USURPS – will be glowing testimonies as to HOW MUCH BETTER EVERYTHING IS.

    If you are sitting there thinking to yourself that “it can’t get much worse – they can’t let people starve like this,” may I remind you of the “Great Leap Forward” executed by Mao in China in the late 50’s and early 60s.  The Chinese Communist Party determined that there were just WAY TOO MANY Chinese deplorable peasants, and so a mass starvation plan was hatched.  In the two years from ARSH 1959-1961, FORTY-FIVE MILLION CHINESE PEASANTS STARVED TO DEATH.

    No one was allowed to say A WORD about this. The only speech that was permitted was happy-talk of how much BETTER THINGS WERE since the glorious revolution.

    One Chinese journalist later wrote of driving through villages and seeing bodies by the hundreds.  No one acknowledged the dead bodies were there – they WALKED RIGHT PAST THEM LIKE NOTHING.  No one dared say a word, or even bury the dead, because to do so would be PASSIVE speech against the revolution.  One person later said to the journalist, “So the bodies were left to be eaten by dogs…?”  “That’s a lie! The bodies weren’t eaten by dogs because the dogs had all long-since been slaughtered and eaten.  THERE WERE NO DOGS.”

    “Happy Hunger Games! And may the odds be ever in your favor.”

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 1:07pm

    Mary59

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    THRIVE MOVEMENT has just released a great article BIG SUMMARY

    https://www.thriveon.com/media/covert-19?pk_campaign=Newsletter&pk_kwd=Stay-informed-all&pk_source=Read-article-button&pk_medium=NL&pk_content=201217&utm_source=ONTRAPORT-email-campaign&utm_medium=ONTRAPORT-email-campaign&utm_term=&utm_content=ThriveOn+Newsletter&utm_campaign=201217.Newsletter.NoAB

     

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 2:10pm

    Mary59

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    Detailed Strategic Plans of Klaus

    https://intelligence.weforum.org/

    This site is the WEF Strategic Planning "hub"..

    They have a whole lot of topics.

    One can sign up using a fresh email account perhaps, and see their plans in more detail.....

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 3:25pm

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    More from the Rumor Mill

    https://pesacheck.org/hoax-pharmaceutical-company-glaxosmithkline-does-not-own-the-wuhan-institute-of-virology-in-china-c1dff259567b

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 4:08pm

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    Dr. Marik's webcast - first 39 minutes overview

    Here are the main slides from the presentation.

    I was in tears of both joy and rage watching this.

    NIH and WHO no longer recommend early Remdesivir treatment

    "We consider our treatment as a bridge to the vaccine."

    Prophylaxis Treatment

    Post-exposure - add aspirin for anti-coagulant properties if no contraindications

    Must have at least 0.2 mg/kg IVM to be effective, stores in fat so...

    You still need to wear your damn mask!!!

    Independent clinicians came to same treatment

    "...bottom line is, is if something works and if something is scientifically valid then it's obvious that multiple people will come up with the same solution."

    Download this, read it, share it, print it out and give it to your doctor and local health officials.

    Paper Summary - Ivermectin is good, mmm'kay?

    CENSORSHIP IS REAL

    About IVM

    IVM is safe at levels up to 10x normal dosage or 2 mg/kg (10x0.2 mg/kg)

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 5:02pm

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    Is the Video Down

    I just tried to open the embedded video above and it said I had to sign up for a vimeo account, which I did. And then it said it couldn't find that page. And when I logged directly into vimeo it didn't come up in a search either for the title of the video or under Chris Martenson.

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 5:07pm

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    video down

    Yeah I was busy yesterday.... I started the video but decided to come back when I had more time.... now it's down?

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 5:58pm

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    Ivermectin as Pre-exposure Prophylaxis for COVID-19 (European Journal of Medicine & Health Sciences)

    • "Method: An observational study, with 118 healthcare providers who were enrolled purposively, was conducted in a tertiary hospital in Dhaka from May 2020 to August 2020. The subjects were divided into experimental and control groups; and the experimental group received an oral monthly dose of ivermectin 12mg for 4 months. Both groups were exposed to COVID-19 positive patients admitted in the hospital during the course of study.
    • Result: 73.3% (44 out of 60) subjects in control group were positive for COVID-19, whereas only 6.9% (4 out of 58) of the experimental group (given 1vermectin) were diagnosed with COVID-19 (p-value < 0.05).
    • Conclusion: Ivermectin, an FDA-approved, safe, cheap and widely available drug, should be subjected to large-scale trials all over the world to ascertain its effectiveness."

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 6:16pm

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    pkywong said:

    Tried to log in to watch the video but vimeo says can't find that page. 🙁

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 6:21pm

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    Your 'War On Truth' video is not available on Vimeo

    I just tried and it goes to a nearly blank page for Peak Prosperity on vimeo.com, without links to videos.  What is going on? Can you restore it?

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 6:27pm

    Chris Martenson

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    My Latest Video Is out! 2021 is Going to be Rough

    Hey all, my latest weekly video is out.

    https://rumble.com/vbz79d-2021-is-going-to-be-rough.html

    Why is it posted to Rumble instead of YouTube you ask?

    Simple.

    YouTube censored my Censored! video today.  Banned!   A modern-day book burning.

    Which came with a "strike."  That means we cannot post anything to our YouTube channel for a week.  We're being given a bad-child time out!

    For doing something.  Nobody is quite clear what.  We apparently spread "medical misinformation" but that video mainly just was me reacting to Dr Kory's Senate testimony.

    The censorship is now completely out of control.  I am doing my best to gather the best available information and share it.  But when that cuts against what BigPharma want$, well, then the weak-ass, soul-devoid creatures at YouTube and Facebook cave immediately.

    Apparently, to them, money is more important than integrity, helping people, saving lives, or doing the right thing.

    At any rate, here we are.

    Please consider joining Rumble and following me/us there, that will help.

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 6:47pm

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    Re; Missing (banned) videos

    We've had a rough day.  First YouTube and now Vimeo are saying that my Covid coverage violates their rules.

    Of course, there's absolutely no specific guidance or indication of even generally what that might be.

    So we're busy switching platforms and adjusting our tactics.

    As a first step we're going to be uploading everything to two locations:

    Everything has been backed up here (including all banned and missing videos):

    https://odysee.com/@Chris_Martenson:2

    We're starting a second channel on Rumble (only a couple of videos loaded so far):




    I've also got a Parler account (kind of a Twitter knock off...a little clumsy and leans a bit  right/partisan, but dedicated to free speech).

    My handle over at Parler.com is @ChrisMartenson

    Make note of those and, if you could, open up accounts there and subscribe to the channels?  That's the easiest way to keep everyone in the loop and to migrate away from the evil banality that YouTube has become.

     

     

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 7:12pm

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    Ray said:

    Thanks Chris!

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 7:14pm

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    cliburn said:

    where can I find the video linked at the top of the page which in no longer avail?

    the folllow up to the war on truth?

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 7:48pm

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    MrsJAA said:

    I also tried to watch the video after registering, but it tells me I don't have permission.  What do I need to do to get permission?

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 8:20pm

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    I CAN NOT VIEW THE VIDEO?

    i paid for a membership over a month ago. if i'm logged in it states i don't have permission to view the video. if i'm logged out and after signing up for Vimeo just to watch this video... after i click on the video on this site... it states there is no video. ugh... i really want to watch the full version. can someone help me figure this out?

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 8:30pm

    Adam Taggart

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    Vimeo + YouTube blocks

    Folks --

    Today PP had both its YouTube and Vimeo channels frozen. We are working to resolve.

    We're working to get the above 'War On Truth' video loaded to another hosting platform. When complete, the video in the post above should be playable again.

    We'll announce it here as soon as that's the case.

    The 'War On Truth' is being waged before our eyes now...

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 8:42pm

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    kenwdelong said:

    Whatever you think of Trump, he nailed it when he said these people are the enemies of humanity.

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  • Thu, Dec 17, 2020 - 11:54pm

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    “Realteal”, why interrupt a civilized conversation with your nastiness?

    If you have followed Chris you would know that he HAS made his preference for “Apple flavored (horse) ivermectin” known. Maybe he has a thought on the injectable. So if you have nothing intelligent or useful to contribute, why speak?

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 1:45am

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    !!List of Drs who DO OFFER IVERMECTIN!!

    Dr list, including some who offer out-of-state telehealth and Rx!

    https://www.exstnc.com/

    I found via this video, w Dr in FL who offers telehealth COVID treatment.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSi4zXL6Jug

    Also Dr Zelenko (on list)  in NY who helped my family get what we needed when our pcp said “sorry I’m not allowed”.

     

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 3:35am

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    Time to build the alternative social media

    I've followed Chris onto odysee and rumble, and I've re-introduced myself to parler (where I set up an account in June, then never followed through).  Tagged Chris on each.

    It's time.

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 5:46am

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    Great move on setting up an alternative account but...

    Rumble requires a cell phone number to comment? ehhh. Well alright, its a start. Subscribed and following. Unfortunately I cant be part of the conversation there because I dont own a cellphone....probably wouldnt give out my number if I did.

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 8:11am

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    Video not available

    Blacked out and says private

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 8:30am

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    2retired said:

    If you use Swiss cow as a search engine, the video came up for me!?!

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 9:04am

    Pappy

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    Dr. Marik's webcast is no longer viewable...

    PLEASE PROVIDE A NEW LINK TO THE WEBCAST IF ANYONE HAS ONE!

    The YouTube video shared by davefairtex for Dr. Marik's Thursday webcast has been changed to Private if you follow this link:

    This is really starting to piss me off.  Not so much the right Google/YouTube has to censor whatever they want on their platform, but that they are essentially a monopoly and using our publicly funded infrastructure to "own" the web.

    I need a YouTube exit strategy...  Time to order up some more server space and start hosting all my own content there.

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 9:14am

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    Dr Pierre Kory's Piece is a Tour d'Force on Ivermectin

    I finally got around to reading the full statement by Dr Kory's group (including FLCCC Alliance and Dr Marik).  Wow.

    This is an absolutely overwhelming assembly of evidence supporting the use of Ivermectin.

    Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19

    Prophylaxis of health care workers recommended in India discussed on page  8.  (0.2 mg/Kg, 2 doses, 72 hours a part, repeated monthly.)

    Treatment of "long haulers" with ivermectin (used as an immune modulator in late disease) is discussed on page 13.

    The authors also make the ethical argument that treatment with the best available evidence likely to help is morally correct even if not considered "proven."

    Declaration 37 of the World Medical Association’s “Helsinki Declaration on the Ethical Principles for Medical Research Involving Human Subjects,” first established in 1964, which states:

    In the treatment of an individual patient, where proven interventions do not exist or other known interventions have been ineffective, the physician, after seeking expert advice, with informed consent from the patient or a legally authorized representative, may use an unproven intervention if in the physician’s judgement it offers hope of saving life, re-establishing health or alleviating suffering

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 9:37am

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    From a Florida doc that does phone visits and prescribes Ivermectin

    (1055) Ivermectin and Covid-19: Follow-up interview with Juan Suarez, MD - YouTube

    This is a very good watch, the doc tells the truth about ivermectin.  Probably should watch asap as it too may get censored.

     

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 9:44am

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    wannabe_cantillionaire said:

    Thanks, I've already had my PCP and another telehealth doctor decline my request for IVM as a treatment, to my PCP's credit she did actually read the literature I provided but she still cited the NIH in declining.

    This is so frustrating.

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 11:23am

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    Eric Heredia said:

    The Vimeo video is telling me, I do not have permission to watch it.  I am a member of Peak Prosperity and logged in with Vimeo.  Do I need to have a subscription with Vimeo?

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 12:02pm

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    Dr Marik video available here

    At the covexit website.

    https://covexit.com/webinar-with-professor-paul-marik-the-prevention-outpatient-treatment-of-c19/

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 12:36pm

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    Adam McPherson said:

    Here it is





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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 12:38pm

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    Why did yesterdays Evening News tell viewers about Vitamins?

    Last night a major MSM news network ran a story about “breaking news” that vitamins have been discovered to prevent Covid. They mentioned D3, Zinc, and even Quercetin.

    Why now and not 8 months ago when we all knew it?  Ah yes.....now it is clear......just in time to get the population healthier so that the vaccines will show greater success. The timing tells the story here....just days after the vaccine rollout.

    The efficacy of D3 has been know for months ....Fauchi admitted it....

    Those responsible for Censoring this information and sitting on it for months are no less than criminals. Lives have been lost due to politics, hatred of the orange man, and greed for  highly profitable vaccines.

    My level of anger is off the charts.

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 12:52pm

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    War on truth

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 12:53pm

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    Tired of Banging Your Head Against a Wall Trying to Explain Things to "Normies"?

    This video is a useful antidote to the MSM propaganda on herd immunity and lockdowns:





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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 1:13pm

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    salty - video has some good points

    Yes, the diamond princess interesting because you have closed limited population to study.   And based on transmission rates of this virus.  It would seem there is some level of immunity already in the population.    I also agree with that populations are not homogeneous and are connected differently.   So herd immunity will automatically be lower than assuming all are homogeneous in contact connectivitiy,  all have the same level of susceptibility.  This almost makes it look like - we dont need a vaccine.  Which we dont.

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 1:14pm

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    Reply to unsubscrige7

    In the Fl doc YouTube video (1058) Ivermectin and Covid-19: Follow-up interview with Juan Suarez, MD - YouTube   there is a list of doc's in other states that will prescribe ivermectin.  You have to click  "show more" to see the list.  Certainly not a complete list but it's a start.  Sick that his hospital won't allow use of ivermectin.  Studies show it saves 50% more lives.  Yes I too am madder the h$$$ over the loss of lives, suffering, government corruption, and propagandist "media" lies and censorship.  People should be in prison !!!

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 1:37pm

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    Love the meme thc0655

    I was thinking last night about Chris video where he mentioned that the NYT and others failed to mention the name of the organization promoting Ivermectin or any of the individual doctors.

     

    Im no journalist but from the movies I know that reporters are primarily concerned with the "who, what, when, where and why" of a story.

     

    Who is the FIRST GODDAMNED ONE, and the mainstream media is unable to nail it down if you are to assume they are being honest.

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 1:43pm

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    Kenna said:

    Yes. Need alt. source dosage info, please. I have the Noromectin 1% injectable solution for cattle. I know it can be given orally as well, but I don't know the dosage as they are using it in other countries successfully.

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 2:19pm

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    I moved the needle a bit

    During a routine appt. with my primary care Doc today we discussed vitamin D (I tested slightly low in July 2020 and had increased my supplementation).  She ordered a follow up test.  She was unaware of the role of Vitamin D vs. Covid-19 and quite interested.  I had a copy of the meta-analysis of Ivermectin and she was also unaware of that and interested.  "Look at those p-values!"  She refused to write an off-label script for me, because "there is no guidance from NIH, WHO, CDC".  (like me, she has a few small animals on her farm) Then she said "If you really want ivermectin, we both know where you can get it without a script".  I asked about using veterinary formulations, and she was quite supportive.  Her caution was that there might be some risks of long-term use of ivermectin; she wasn't aware of any studies of that.  I assured her that I didn't intend to use it long term.  As we parted, she said "Now I have two things to look into:  Vitamin D and Ivermectin."  We both felt good about the conversation.

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 2:28pm

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    Moving the Needle

    I think it's possible I may have moved it here too.Our CEO of the Health Ministry announced today thatDWSNBN-2 ( India Victor Mike ) has just been addedto the local Treatment Protocol.

    I had sent links to Dr. Kory and Dr. Carvallo to a friend who has friends.
    That may have made a difference. I hope it does.

    chuck

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 2:35pm

    wotthecurtains

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    Disappointed in horse paste (Durevet)

    It's not nearly the sweet apple pie taste I was led to expect.

    Also, the plunger is a little sensitive.  You press down and it moves fast.   Or Im just a spaz.  I'm only 160lbs but I ended up with 200lbs worth on the spoon and I snorfled it down anyway.

     

    I've had a slowly growing headache recently and my kid's school has had "cases".   Also I just kinda wanted to try it out to see what would happen.

     

    Giddyup

     

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 2:57pm

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    Facebook and YouTube/Google cannot hide

    Facebook and YouTube/Google cannot hide behind the whole "well, we were just following NIH/CDC/WHO guidelines."

    These are multibillion dollar companies.  They can just as easily vet the information as we can.

    They have no business in suppressing some science and medical information simply to appease their  powerful Pharma advertisers.

    They are culpable in the consequences of that especially during a pandemic where people are dying and being actively harmed by this suppression.

    They have a legitimate duty, in my mind, to examine the evidence and then tell the pharma folks to go pound sand if the results have any positive signal at all.

    Why?  Because the downside is practically zero with IVM and the upside is not dying or maybe needing a lung transplant.

    Same as for Vitamin D.  No downside, all possible upside.  So why the complete radio silence on the matter?

    Truthfully the social media giants missed a huge opportunity to lead the way and be a force for good.  They took the exact opposite side of all this.

    Just awful.  They deserve to be broken up and scattered to the winds.  Specific people deserve to be put in jail.  There's no fixing that kind of broken.  Best to just scatter the ashes in a  strong wind.

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 3:09pm

    Mike from Jersey

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    Media is a misnomer

    wotthecurtains,

    I always knew the the MSM was not that good. But it was only in the past few years that I realized that the MSM is a total scam.

    They do not have "reporters" working for them.

    They do not have "journalists" working for them.

    They do not have "editors" searching for the "wheat" in the "chaff."

    They are not even really "media" in the sense of conveying information or news.

    Paul Craig Roberts calls them "presstitutes," but even that term implies that they have something to do with the "press" which traditionally means "journalism."

    They are neither "the press" nor do they do "journalism."

    They are minions who propagate systemic disinformation designed to simulate a world (democracy, freedom of choice, etc.) which, in fact, does not exist and to convince the masses to consent to the wishes of those pulling the strings.

     

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 3:24pm

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    We need a wrongful death suit

    The only thing that's going to make a difference is if some enterprising lawyer finds a way to get a class action wrongful death suit against Facebook & Google for blocking information that would have saved peoples lives.  The ability to hide behind the CDC/NIH is their defense.  The challenge for the attorney is to find an angle that bypasses that.   It really needs someone inside one of those companies who leaks a document proving that the management knew that the NIH/CDC was intentionally suppressing the truth and went along with it anyway.  Even leaked documents from the NIH/CDC showing they knew won't be enough, it has to be from the "media" company being sued.

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 3:41pm

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    Facebook and YouTube/Google can... hide in plain sight

    Well stated conclusion for a world in touch with reality.
    But the reality that we (virtually everyone, but not including you or most people here) all live in is totally virtual and created by google/youtube/facebook and modified on the fly as they go along.

    This is severe fascism and they hide in plain sight.  Everyone's vision is controlled by them.  I saw a recent video by Bill Niles the science guy with Neil deGrasse, wherein they debunked the covid virus origin-from-a-lab conspiracy by noting with a straight face that "the genetic sequence is 98.5% the same as known bat viruses!!!!!"

    When I point out the failures of corporate solar in my new book, every rich person I talk to (and every rich wanna be who worships the corporate state) suddenly hates me as a "conspiracy theorist!!"  I have suddenly lost long term close friends because of my efforts to remove the wool cloth over their eyes.

    The first victim is truth.  The second is justice, and the third is liberty.
    Listen to the good Dr. sandpuppy talk of his experiences in this regard.

    Working with the soil is the best reality check and which is the foundation of true power.  This distinguishes CM and this website from most other wake blogs.
    In my case, I get reality checks by building stuff and getting data in the energy field.

    We are well into the early stage of the dark ages and should consider letting go of the past.  We need to focus on self resilience and let go of that which we cannot change. History does repeat and our counterparts from 1930's Germany were imprisoned, shot, or fled if they could not keep their mouths shut regarding their observations of truth.  I am seriously worried about what will happen to this blog site and the named owner(s) after fascism kicks into second gear next year.

    We need to adapt to the new dark age reality.  You guys keep talking about class action lawsuits, wrongful death suits, breakup via antitrust laws etc.  This is the stuff of fairy tales.  Truth is gone, and his sister justice was killed some time ago.  The youngest member of their family, liberty, is nowhere to be seen.

     

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 5:04pm

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    Surviving chaos

    "We need to adapt to the new dark age reality.  You guys keep talking about class action lawsuits, wrongful death suits, breakup via antitrust laws etc.  This is the stuff of fairy tales.  Truth is gone, and his sister justice was killed some time ago.  The youngest member of their family, liberty, is nowhere to be seen."

     

    I'm not much of a movie buff but Ive always been struck by the image of the individual in a war film.

     

    Not the films where the guy fires his gun sideways as he singlehandedly takes out an entire army, but the ones about the guy who is just trying to survive amid chaos.   The one's where he is a "good guy" even while he doesn't demonstrate a lot of interest in "the good guys" as a team.

    Nothing that is happening around us makes any sense and much of it is devastating to individuals regardless of "what we deserve".

    I really feel like we are entering the chaos stage now.  Its not that no one should try to hold people to account for their actions but I would be careful about investing too much energy/hope into such projects.   If you can do so opportunistically or as an example to help wake people up, but all means, but "fixing the world"?  Fhuggedaboudit

    You can't be in a state of cat-like readiness forever, but I'm trying to hone my sense of incoming trouble because I think we are all gonna need it.

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 5:09pm

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    Reply to surviving chaos

    Yes I am right there with you. The fat lady might not have sung yet but I think I can hear her warming up. Not a good thing...

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 5:45pm

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    Thanks, Nordicjack

    I agree: We don't need the vaccine, especially if one needs to take it once or twice a year. If the media worked the way they're supposed to, this truth would come out soon. However, they're almost all complicit in this, so they're not going to cover this.

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 6:18pm

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    Andy Jarman said:

    I was banned from You Tube yesterday.  I will never know why, but I now realise how addictive it is.  I feel cut off from everyone I enjoy interacting with.

     

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 6:39pm

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    Tyranny

    The last person beheaded in the UK was 1736, the last person executed in the UK 1963.  The last person executed in the USA...  Just saying.

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 7:44pm

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    Andy banned....

    I was banned from You Tube yesterday.  I will never know why, but I now realise how addictive it is.  I feel cut off from everyone I enjoy interacting with.

    Well Andy, as with every addiction it's hard at first, but then soon you realize how much of your life you got back.

    🙂

     

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 8:19pm

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    Canadian Company In Pre Clinical Ivermectin Trials....

    ....up 58% today and is a six bagger in the last 2 weeks.

    Someone seems interested in it 😉

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  • Fri, Dec 18, 2020 - 8:44pm

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    How to Dispense the Horse Paste:

    There is a ring on the plunger that moves when you turn it.  Set it to the weight mark desired and it will stop the plunger at that weight.  I don't think the horses like the taste much either!  Here's a video:





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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 2:46am

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    2015 Nobel Prize for Ivermectin, was good enough for millions in Africa

    If Ivermectin is so dangerous or "useless", why did they award a Nobel Prize for it??

    https://www.nature.com/news/anti-parasite-drugs-sweep-nobel-prize-in-medicine-2015-1.18507

     

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 4:28am

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    What is the rationale for censoring Ivermectin?

    Anyone has any idea what is the rationale for censoring Ivermectin? Is there any political motive for doing so?

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 4:43am

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    Mots' book title on Amazon

    Take Back The Power!: Sustainable Energy and Freedom are Within Your Grasp

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 5:08am

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    boop said:

    I was fortunate enough to see the censored video before it was wiped out by (who the hell knows).  I'm not doing vimeo, I'm frugal that way.  Will check into rumble when I have the time to do so.  I don't want to go through painful withdrawal with you gentlemen.  Hope to see you soon.  Betty

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 5:46am

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    Ivermectin censorship rationale

    Hi iSecurityGuru! Here’s the theory. There are many billions of dollars to be made selling the world Covid vaccines, but they can’t be sold or used without extensive testing lasting years. (By then the whole emergency will have blown over.) UNLESS there’s an “emergency” and the government grants the manufacturers an EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) and a liability waiver. The EUA can be granted when there are no KNOWN safe or effective treatments, and the liability waiver protects the manufacturers from lawsuits in the event people are harmed by the insufficiently tested vaccine. So HCQ, Ivermectin and everything else that might help have to be buried very, very deep so the conditions of the EUA are met (“no known safe and effective treatments”) which is necessary to rape, I mean reap, the obscene profits.

    One interesting question would be how much money, other inducements or threats are required to get individual health officials, medical journal editors, MSM owners and editors, prominent doctors and researchers to play along with the scam of denigrating and burying treatments like HCQ and Ivermectin? Based on my understanding of corruption and human nature, I’m sure it’s a surprisingly small amount. That is, I bet these people would gladly play along for $20,000, a promotion at work, or a simple anonymous death threat, even though thousands and thousands will die as a result. Key players like Doctored Fauci, I’m sure, “deserve” something more along the lines of $5 million, but there are probably less than 10 at his level. What’s $100 million to lubricate the system when you stand to make a profit of $5 or $10 Billion?

    ”Happy Hunger Games! And may the odds be ever in your favor.”





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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 6:20am

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    El777 said:

    Almost sounded like excommunication...

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 7:48am

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    Replying to Facebook and YouTube/Google can... hide in plain sight

    Mots,

    You wrote:

    You guys keep talking about class action lawsuits, wrongful death suits, breakup via antitrust laws etc.  This is the stuff of fairy tales.

    After I retired from the practice of law, I had actually toyed with the idea of setting up a website asking whistleblowers to come forward with evidence to support a RICO lawsuit against two very specific and powerful wrongdoers in all of this. 

    The problem is this.

    At best, it would have stirred up a lot of interest from dissidents.

    At worst, it would have gotten me killed.

    More likely that not, it just would have turned my "retirement years" into a boiling cauldron of endless harassment - tax audits, computer hacks, public ridicule and so on.

    My feeling is that we have to work to protect the well being of ourselves and our loved ones while waiting for the current system to fail and fall.

    I don't think that point is all that far away.

    Then we can rebuild from within the wreckage.

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 11:37am

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    coh said:

    What a bunch of horse shit! I'm glad I got a tube of the horse paste before that got banned for sale (which is probably coming).

    Sorry to hear you're having so much trouble finding a place to get your message out. I've been following you since Feb or so and you've been pretty much on target for the most part. Please keep at it regardless of the roadblocks you encounter.

    As for youtube...definitely going to have to evaluate whether I want to continue using that site.

    From one Chris to another...stay well!

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 12:31pm

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    Ivermectin against other respiratory diseases

    I am wondering if Ivermectin would also be efficacious against other respiratory diseases.  What about the flue or pneumonia?  Anybody ever tried it?  Any data on this?

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 1:28pm

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    How to Dispense the Horse Paste:

    Oh man I could have used that one earlier.   Still I'm somewhat happy to report continuing to be alive after taking probably 300 "micrograms per kilo" yesterday.

     

    People are asking for some front page link to all the dosing and details about ivermectin.  Honestly if  you watch the Dr Paul Marik video linked earlier and then this dosing video, you will have all you need to take responsibility for playing doctor by yourself.

     

    I can't speak highly enough of that Dr Marik video.   This is a man you want as your real doctor when he is allowed to practice like a real doctor again.

     

     

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 1:37pm

    Time2help

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    Apple flavoured paste

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 1:45pm

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    Live Covid19 Censorship @ TheHill.com

     

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/530966-fda-investigating-allergic-reactions-to-pfizer-vaccine-reported-in-multiple
    Try talking about Ivermectin in the comments section of this article about Covid19 at TheHill.com

    Write your comment in a separate text editor, because it will probably be deleted VERY QUICKLY.

    Take screen captures to document the censorship.

    All I did was post a link to Dr. Kory's Senate Testimony, the *.pdf.

    https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Testimony-Kory-2020-12-08.pdf

    They didn't even give me time to fix my Typo, I meant Ivermectin + Vitamin D.

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 1:56pm

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    FLCCC Updated Prophylaxis Protocol

    The FLCCC recently updated the recommended ivermectin dosing in their prophylaxis protocol. I have a copy of “Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19” dated Dec 7, 2020, that gives the prophylactic dosing of “0.2 mg/kg dose on day 1 and day 3, then one dose/month”. The current version of the document dated Dec 18, 2020, now recommends “0.2 mg/kg, one dose on day 1 and day 3, then take one dose weekly for 10 weeks, followed by one dose every 2 weeks”. I don’t see that kind of high dosing in any of the prophylaxis studies they list in the document. 

    Any ideas why they might have increased the prophylactic dosing so significantly?

    Review of the Emerging Evidence Supporting the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 2:27pm

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    NY Times

    This would be a great new ad campaign for NYT.  Subscribe to NYT "Information which could get you killed. "

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 2:58pm

    Aria

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    Tractor Supply pulling ivermectin from shelves now or back in April?

    The info posted prior about Tractor Supply appears to be from April 5th according to the screen shot posted. Am I reading that correctly or do you maintain that Tractor Supply is currently pulling ivermectin from the shelves?

    ETA: I checked online and you can still buy it on their website. Sigh. I wish I had checked that before calling my family. I have been urging them to stock up on ivermectin but so far they haven't. Now I look foolish. Note to self: always verify internet rumors before acting. (face palm)

     

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 3:30pm

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    Medical advice rules now helping big pharma to kill people?

    Hello from New Zealand!

    Adam and Chris a big thank you for all the hard work covering the pandemic.

    It seems to me that the all the rules around not being allowed to give medical advice are now serving to protect the big pharmaceutical companies rather than the general public, who it was designed to protect in the first place. The foxes really are in charge of the hen house now!

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 3:31pm

    Mots

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    Mike From Jersey

    Mike, you stated:

    At best, it would have stirred up a lot of interest from dissidents.

    At worst, it would have gotten me killed.

    More likely that not, it just would have turned my "retirement years" into a boiling cauldron of endless harassment - tax audits, computer hacks, public ridicule and so on.

    I have the exact comments as well, regarding the destruction of American patent law over the years.  If I try to discuss this with people in the industry they instantly hate me forever.  So I have no recourse but to walk away.

    We have limited time and energy.
    When the Titantic went down, one response would be to jump into the water and try to hold it up while treading water to keep it afloat.

    Or, get into a lifeboat and row like hell to get as far away as possible to keep from getting pulled under in the wake.

    During this time of destruction of American law, I have watched the Japanese law change to greatly protect inventors and now is much better than the US law. And, recently Chinese law is rapidly changing/improving to protect inventors and protect IP holders. Not surprisingly, China is number 1 in new technology in most fields.

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 3:37pm

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    banned video gone from vimeo now?

    I see the "banned video" is now removed from vimeo was there another link? i wish I had saved it.:(

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 4:19pm

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    LyingEyes said:

    I bought a couple tubes of Durvet Apple Flavored Ivermectin paste from our local Tractor Supply here on the central coast of CA a week and a half ago. They had dozens of tubes on the shelf and a big sign warning against unauthorized uses. I just called back and the guy said they were out of stock, nothing on the shelf. I told him I had recently seen a bunch of it and wondered where it had all gone. He went back and took a second look and found a few ten-packs in the overstock.

    In other words, get yours soon 'cause it's flying off the shelves!

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 4:39pm

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    likewise in the U.S. & U.K.

    Dr. Genevieve Briand of Johns-Hopkins has joined you in the group that's had their postings blocked/removed/force retracted. She looked into the numbers of deaths from all causes in the U.S. and found NO statistically significant difference between 2019 and 2020. Shortly after posting her findings in the J-H newsletter, her article was removed and J-H apologized for posting it (they did not refute any part of it, but these days why would that be necessary?).

    https://web.archive.org/web/20201126163323/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19

    Dr. Michael Yeadon (a former V.P. of Pfizer) is an immunologist who discovered the same about the U.K. numbers.

    https://www.aier.org/article/an-education-in-viruses-and-public-health-from-michael-yeadon-former-vp-of-pfizer/

    So how is this in any way a pandemic (any more than the normal flu coronavirus)? If you have a functioning immune system, you have little reason to be worried, according to Yeadon. The "new normal" responses we're being forced to follow do not strengthen the immune system... the herding continues.

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 5:13pm

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    Apologies Aria

    Dropped in to the local TSC this afternoon to confirm that rumor and walked out with 3 boxes of apple flavored greasy (cash). So false alarm, my bad. Note to self - check for dates and confirm before reporting a shortage/restriction when possible.

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 5:38pm

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    coh said:

    I bought mine through the website. Shipping was more than the product itself but it was delivered quickly and I didn't have to go out.

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 7:02pm

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    Video On Rumble

    Anyone else having trouble playing this video now.

    Page comes up but does not play ???

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 8:32pm

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    raymccrea said:

    The vaccines are only approved with an EUA which states that if there is an approved treatment, the vaccines would have to go through the normal approval process. There are too many billions of dollars to be made to allow there to be a cure. The same goes for hydroxychloroquin and chlorine dioxide. They are all censored for the same reason.

     

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  • Sat, Dec 19, 2020 - 9:56pm

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    Ivermectin has a short half-life.

    Someone above asked why might the FLCCC have updated their recommended prophylactic dosing of IVM to an increased frequency of ingesting the drug. I’m no Dr., but the prior recommendation never made sense to me considering the blood half-life of IVM (when taken orally) is about ONE day (per Drugs.com and other sites). The new plan would do better at building up and maintaining some meaningful level in the body. Just my lay opinion.

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  • Sun, Dec 20, 2020 - 4:25am

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    Short half life updated

    if that’s so, what’s the new prophylaxis protocol?

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  • Sun, Dec 20, 2020 - 5:13am

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    PGP Report Dissadent's Plight

    Morning All

    The Panama Guinea Pigs control group of ten (10) on 400 mg of HCQ/week as prevention - was sailing along smoothly.  We were able to allow the younger people within the homes a little more freedom and were all doing fine.

    About two weeks ago,  "A" our oldest member, fell ill, weakness, fever etc.  He got tested for COVID, and was negative.  Then he went for some neurological testing but they didnt see anything.  They scheduled him for more detailed testing.

    Then he felt a little better but then BAM he got really ill again, muscle weakness, high fever, confusion, coughing fits.  Doctor says he believes it is COVID for sure.  "A" gets tested again, but needs to wait three DAYS for the result.  Luckily, this doctor is smart and immediately puts him on the HCQ Invermectin C D Zinc Azythromicin plus some other things which I cannot recall now.  It is already late in the game.  He remains stable for 48 hours but then in the middle of the night, his wife calls to say ..Can she please borrow our O2 machine, which is brand new.  She knows how to work them and her brother is a medical doctor.  My husband rushes machine in the night breaking curfew but no police stop him.  Then his wife calls an hour later to say they have gone to the hospital.  There he stabilizes using the same drug protocol and never did go on O2.  He is going to be released today but one lung has been damaged quite badly.

    His wife said that he admitted to not taking the HCQ because he figured CNN knew alot more than any of us.

     

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  • Sun, Dec 20, 2020 - 6:22am

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    Open Letter to Matt Hancock UK Secretary of State-Health from Chair UK Reform Party

    Letter to Secretary of State for Health

    This is a long long letter of 19 Dec.,  shredding the UKs handling of COVID -FOCUS on BS of Tests.

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  • Sun, Dec 20, 2020 - 6:29am

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    Mary...so much to unpack in your story.

    First......compassionate thoughts to the man who got Covid. This story highlights some  questions that many are struggling with:

    Can a person trust the MSM? ....Are tests accurate? ........Is this disease as dangerous as made out to be? Are long haul effects a very serious problem?

    I hope this story gets shared .....very instructive.

     

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  • Sun, Dec 20, 2020 - 8:36am

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    @oliveoilguy

    oliveoilguy,

    You wrote:

    Can a person trust the MSM? ....Are tests accurate? ........Is this disease as dangerous as made out to be? Are long haul effects a very serious problem?

    Check out this link. It is not being reported in the MSM. It is a new CDC guidance about how to deal with anaphylaxis after the administration of the Covid 19 vaccine. It notes:

    A clinical provider with access to the emergency equipment should be immediately available to assess and manage anaphylaxis.

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/pfizer/anaphylaxis-management.html

    Can you trust the MSM?

    Clearly not.

    What I am doing is this. Every time I talk to someone in another state or country, I ask them specifically to tell me what is going on. I ask them, not to tell me what they read or hear in the media, but what they know from personal experience, what they see with their own eyes.

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  • Sun, Dec 20, 2020 - 8:54am

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    Why THEY are denying healthcare and financial support

    If y'all haven't read her work yet, I think you'll appreciate Caitlin Johnston

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  • Sun, Dec 20, 2020 - 9:24am

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    "His wife said that he admitted to not taking the HCQ because he figured CNN knew alot more than any of us."

    Oh man, that's a horrible story.  What a way to pay for not understanding "risk adjusted decisions" and trusting authority instead.

     

    What I find really weird is that people can't understand that CNN (or the media generally) isn't "science" or "expert".

    It's some overworked hack with a journalism degree giving you their interpretation of an executive summary of a study worded to grab eyeballs (and then their editor "corrects" that to be in line with the political agenda of the owners).

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  • Sun, Dec 20, 2020 - 9:46am

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    Adverse Reactions

    I found this link on the CDC website.

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2020-12/slides-12-19/05-COVID-CLARK.pdf

    As of December 18, 2020, there have been 3,150 adverse reactions to the vaccine that were severe enough to meet these criteria:

    unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work, required care from doctor or health care professional

    The 3,150 adverse reactions equals about 2.8% of those people receiving the vaccine.

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  • Sun, Dec 20, 2020 - 10:24am

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    coh said:

    In some ways, I'm glad I've got about 280 million people ahead of me in the vaccine line here in the US. Plenty of time for serious adverse effects to make themselves known before I have to make the big decision.

    They should definitely expand their description of what those adverse effects are. Supposedly only 6 have been labeled as anaphylaxis (so far). So what else is going on? It's typical to get some minor flu-like symptoms after a vaccine, along with a sore arm etc. But I don't think most vaccines cause nearly that many impacts, at least not severe enough to prevent people from going to work.

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  • Sun, Dec 20, 2020 - 1:02pm

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    Ivermectin half life

    I'll bet the one day half life is based on how long it can be detected in serum.  Dr. Marik said it settles in adipose tissue.  Which incidentally is replete with ACE-2 receptors.

    Big Pharma is never going to admit to the real adverse reactions from the vaccines.  The autoimmune effects that may not show up for a while and will never be attributed to the vaccines.  How about we at least wait until they have done animal testing?  It's obscene that was skipped over.

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  • Sun, Dec 20, 2020 - 3:58pm

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    The approach taken by FLCCC may not be effective.

    As I hinted here, some things have recently changed locally here and I may have had a role in it. Friday it was announced that IVM has been added to the local treatment protocol. And that's certainly welcome, great news.

    However, I personally think the FLCCC doctors are taking the wrong approach, trying to turn the gigantic ship which is the NIH and all the associated 3-letter agencies. They sound almost like they're asking permission. That's a mistake, I think.
    They are not at all likely to get it. And time is not on the side of any bureaucratic involvement or the large scale testing they suggested needs to be done.
     
    They should try to reach doctors, pharmacists, and the general population. It needs to be an end-around, not a frontal attempt to move an immovable object.
     
    They need to take a more "damn the torpedoes" stance, and ask for forgiveness later rather than begging for permission now. They need to be thinking of the "establishment" as hostile, because that's exactly the case. You don't negotiate with people like that. You defeat them using every tool in the toolbox. That's my opinion.
     
    What prompted me to work at this was the video, "The Power of One."
    That man didn't defeat the Fuhrer. He didn't save everybody.
    But he did what he could, and it was one hell of a lot.
     

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  • Sun, Dec 20, 2020 - 7:03pm

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    coh said:

    They're trying to get the message directly to the general population. They've testified in Congress, made their own videos, been interviewed by various people. The videos get censored pretty quickly making it difficult to promote the message.

    I agree that trying to "turn the NIH ship" in a timely manner will probably not work. So, hopefully they continue to spread the word as much as possible. I think a lot of the burden falls on those of use who've seen the videos, read the documents, reviewed the studies. We need to also spread the word on social media, talk to our friends, give our own doctors links to the information (or print it out and hand it to them). I gave my doctor a print out of the first 10 pages of the EVMS protocol document when I was there for a physical earlier in the month, and talked about ivermectin. Will it change his mind - I have no idea but if enough of us make enough noise it might help.

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  • Mon, Dec 21, 2020 - 5:50am

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    vitamin d warning

    So Crhris, look what your beloved Sweden is doing. Today on the front page of the state television. Because they have noticed an increased Vitamin D sales, and the national health administrators may not be able to pimp the covid scare if it continues?

    Translation:

    The National Food Administration warns of vitamin D.

    According to the industry association Swedish self-care has the sale of Vitamin D reached record levels.

    The reason is believed to be the latest current claims of a connection between vitamin D deficiency and a severe onset of covid-19. Something like lacks scientific support. The companies who sell these products mean that they are not dangerous.

    -You should be aware of the risks involved to take such high doses [without specifying which doses]. There is nor any additional health benefits to do so, says Bettina Julin at the National Food  Administration.

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  • Mon, Dec 21, 2020 - 9:00am

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    Too much D?

    I would add that Vitamin D levels need to be balanced with enough Vitamin A.  And also Vitamin K2 to be protective that calcium is deposited in hard tissues, not soft tissues.

    Similarly, taking only zinc long term is a really bad idea.  You need a little copper too.

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  • Mon, Dec 21, 2020 - 10:37am

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    More contagious strain in the UK?

    Chris,

    I am looking forward to your take on the "more contagious" strain of coronavirus in the UK prompting more lockdowns.  I have a feeling that they are jumping the gun & there is really no science backing this claim, but I'm really anxious to see what kind of data you come across!  (And now Cuomo in NY is taking this & running with it with more restrictions...)

    Thanks again for all you do!

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  • Mon, Dec 21, 2020 - 11:11am

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    Peak Trust is in the rear view mirror

    https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2020/12/21/the-stupid-establishments-lies-will-be-its-undoing-n2581855

    The coming vaccine fiasco is going to be yet another example of our idiotic ruling class’ utter incompetence and total paucity of wisdom. It is clear that there is going to be a huge backlash in the form of people refusing to take the vaccine. The vaccine may actually be quite good – real doctors (not fake doctors like Lady McBiden) have told me it is. I have no dog in the fight, since my bloodstream surges with powerful antibodies that have already defeated the puny COVID virus and render me invulnerable to its .05 percent death rate for my demographic. But other people could use a vaccine, and yet tens of millions of them won’t believe the vaccines are safe and/or effective entirely because the Establishment is stupid.

    Here’s how the Establishment is stupid. It decided that we citizens were stupid and acted accordingly.

    The Establishment decided that instead of having a vigorous debate and discussion over the safety and efficacy of these prophylactic potions, they would just short circuit the whole messy truth determination process that Western civilization has relied upon for a millennium – argument, debate, and eventually consensus after everything is fully and freely hashed-out – and move right to the Official Truth. All the smart set decided that the Official Truth would be that these vaccines were all perfect and necessary and that we needed to stamp out any hint of dissent lest people pause and think for themselves and thereby disrupt the plan by raising unapproved notions. And the tech overlords would do their part by ensuring that any info, ideas, or interplay that was not inline with the narrative would be suppressed.

    It’s so much more efficient, you know, to tell people what they think than to take the time to convince them and refute counter-arguments.

    Not everyone was foolish. It was very smart and good leadership for Mike Pence to take the shot in public in front of cameras. That a couple of tentacles didn’t sprout out of his clavicles was reassuring. That’s leadership, and that’s what our leaders should be doing. But most of our ruling class instead thinks that if they lie to us and suppress our debates and call us stupid enough, we’ll fall into line.

    When has that worked for long?

    Here’s the thing – there are going to be side effects. We’re already seeing reports of them. No one’s spontaneously combusted like a Spinal Tap percussionist, but every medicine and every vaccine generates some negative reactions in some people. That’s a fact. That’s science, which we are constantly informed we are to believe in. Yet the blackout on dissent, the suppression of debate, in favor of the mandatory thumbs-up narrative, hides this truth. What the leaders should do is confront it. Speak the truth – yeah, it’s a good vaccine but some people will have issues – and let the debate commence. And then participate in the debate with moves like VP Pence’s: show themselves putting their immune systems where their mouth is.

    But now, because they are hiding stuff, people think they are hiding stuff. And people hiding stuff do not get the presumption of good faith.

    By refusing to level with us, and refusing to allow people to bring up the problems, then presenting counter-arguments and evidence, by trying to skip this inconvenient process and go right to an Official Truth that isn’t necessarily true, they basically Jerry Nadlered all over their own credibility.

    Great job, folks. Another epic fail by the leadership class that brought us Taylor Swift and Grindr.

    As an inevitable result of this folly, there are going to be a significant number of people out there who will resist what is probably a pretty safe and effective set of vaccines all because they justifiably don’t trust our elite. And our elite is going to then contend that these people are somehow dumb for not trusting the elite when the elite itself ensured people were not going to trust it.

    Why again should we believe the garbage Establishment about anything?

    It told us Trump loved the Russians, and that turned into a giant nope.

    It told us Trump was literally Hitler, and yet he never invaded Poland.

    It is now telling us that those ubiquitous anonymous Trump advisors are fretting that the president is going to do something sinister to not turn power over to President-Suspect Asterisk, then inevitably that won’t happen either. And, like all of these examples, there’ll be no accountability, no reckoning for lying to us. The same journo-hacks who spewed this nonsense will keep their jobs and probably get awards, all after being wrong wrong wrong.

    But hey, we’re the knuckle-draggers for not trusting them and their narratives!

    We hear our ruling caste bemoan that Americans believe in conspiracy theories which presume elite malice, but exactly how has the elite performed its cultural and societal duties in the last couple decades in a manner such that it has a right to expect a presumption of good faith?

    For years, we heard nothing but about how Trump’s alleged foreign entanglements compromised him. That turned out to be baloney. Yet when actual evidence of Hoover Biden snorting up Chi-Com cash, among other racketeering, with a wink and a nod from his proud, crusty daddy, the Establishment did not merely ignore it. It decreed that the truth could not even be spoken and launched a campaign to prevent you from hearing about it. And it largely worked. It certainly helped Grandpa Badfinger that the anti-Woodward and Bernsteins of our glorious news media ensured that our democracy was kept in darkness.

    The Establishment Deep Throats of today warn reporters, “Don’t follow the money,” and the reporters are happy to obey. After all, suppressing the news gets you those MSNBC hits.

    Yet they demand our trust and our respect.

    The bad news is that our ruling class is composed of unaccomplished idiots bereft of the wisdom to effectively run our society. But the good news is likewise that our ruling class is composed of unaccomplished idiots bereft of the wisdom to effectively run our society. These people are stupid. Their own unblemished track record of lie after lie is so egregious that they are undercutting their own moral authority to govern better than we ever could.

    Every day more people get woke to the fact that our betters are much worse. Every lie they tell trying to hold onto their power, position, and prestige in the short-term helps guarantee their long-term defeat. Some of us patriots worry that we are doomed to be ruled by them forever. I don’t worry about that. Our would-be masters are too stupid to rule us for long.

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  • Mon, Dec 21, 2020 - 5:38pm

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    great truths

    All great truths go though 3 stages

    It is ridicule, then it is violently a posed, and the future will the rest.

     

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  • Mon, Dec 21, 2020 - 8:59pm

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    ChrisMuss said:

    Hi Chris, I'm just guessing here, but I think that 2 of the other 3 proprietary ingredients in the Durvet horse paste IVM are CMC (Carboxymethyl cellulose), which is the gel component,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboxymethyl_cellulose

    and an apple flavoured ester, such as Ethyl-2-methyl butyrate

    http://flavorscientist.com/2015/10/10/apple-flavor-and-ethyl-2-methyl-butyrate/

    I also tracked down where this stuff is made in Cambridge, Ontario, Canada

    https://www.bimedamtc.com/products/categories/anti-parasitic/bimectin-paste

    They have a similar product to the Durvet, sold under their own brand, Bimectin.

    https://youtu.be/wcqf5XjmW7c

     

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  • Tue, Dec 22, 2020 - 10:17am

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    Related - War on Truth - No statical rise in deaths due to CV19

    Worth download this report while possible.

    Though deaths in categories like respiratory illnesses and heart disease seasonally rise and fall together in the United States, Briand noticed a strange trend.

    “Instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease,” in addition to “all other causes.” Additionally, “the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/johns-hopkins-newspaper-removes-study-examining-covid-death-rate

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  • Tue, Dec 22, 2020 - 10:55am

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    ‘Covid relief’ bill

    Simon Black has a great post on the absurd spending.  No mention of these details in the mainstream media, just blather about how Congress is helping out.

    I can’t believe it: I agree with AOC

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  • Tue, Dec 22, 2020 - 11:07am

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    WHO changes its own definition of “herd immunity”

    https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1341306917076021248?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1341306917076021248%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theburningplatform.com%2F

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  • Tue, Dec 22, 2020 - 1:40pm

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    About the Vaccines

    Per one med sci article - They contain Polyethylene Glycol ?

    Sounds very similar to Ethylene Glycol, i.e. anti-freeze.

    Any chance Chris could talk about the Vaccine ingredients ?

     

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  • Tue, Dec 22, 2020 - 1:53pm

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    Share Share Share!!

    Since Thanksgiving With Dr Chris presenting initial STOP THE PRESSES!! news I did just that and Got a Dr. to consult with electronically(ON MY THIRD TRY) to prescribe IVM? Got my prescription with one refill!! YES!! Getting second refill today before govt takes off the shelfs!! Thanks. Been following Dr Chris since Last February when the SHTF!! Been missing his regular advice since he went off the BoobTube! <<<< oldies get this!

    Had to register, and boy am I glad I did, great Uncensored video Dr Chris! hope we get more in the future. Miss hearing your voice and advice regulary.

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  • Tue, Dec 22, 2020 - 2:17pm

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    Share This Too





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  • Tue, Dec 22, 2020 - 3:07pm

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    measured 10 min talk on IVM by long haul researcher

    at least there is open interest here:





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  • Tue, Dec 22, 2020 - 3:50pm

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    Canuck21 said:

    Thanks, here's the original link I found in case anyone else wants to see the links he gives. It will be interesting to see how long it is available...





     

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  • Tue, Dec 22, 2020 - 4:00pm

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    More contagious strain in the UK?

    My conspiracy theory read is this is the EU punishing Britian for Brexit.    The complete hysterical overreaction (including cutting off British food supplies) isnt being applied to Italy or Spain where the strain has supposedly also been found.

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  • Tue, Dec 22, 2020 - 4:02pm

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    Canuck21 said:

     

    Well that is unfortunate. Sometimes it is not good to automatically convert a URL to the video link. You will have to search Youtube for Dr. Ram Yogendra. The comments below his video are interesting.

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  • Sat, Dec 26, 2020 - 3:41pm

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    John Campbell

    Glad to see he supports the research of Ivermectin.  I've just seen him vassilate on some topics.  For a while, he was bashing the U.S. response even while the U.K. wasn't doing a bang-up job themselves.

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  • Sun, Dec 27, 2020 - 9:26am

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    Chris, look at this site - contains a directory of MDs willing to prescribe IVM or HCQ

    Hi Chris,

    A member of the PP tribe gave me a website listing doctors willing to prescribe medication (ie IVM and HCQ) as prophylaxis or treatment of Covid-19.
    Please examine the site and present it to the PP tribe (behind the paywall if necessary)
    Here is a directory of the MDs willing to treat Covid-19 with IVM and HCQ

    Thanks so much to the other PP subscriber who gave me the site today – Dec. 27, 2020

    The site is continually updated – the Dec. 26, 2020 data is what I looked at

    https://www.exstnc.com/

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  • Mon, Dec 28, 2020 - 9:26am

    richcabot

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    WHO (finally) admits PCR tests create false positives

    Warnings concerning high CT value of tests are months too late…so why are they appearing now?   Is it to make it appear the vaccine works?

    WHO (finally) admits PCR tests create false positives

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  • Mon, Dec 28, 2020 - 9:30am

    richcabot

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    Two Minnesota State Lawmakers Learn that Covid-19 Deaths Are Inflated by 40%

    Two Minnesota state lawmakers revealed that, after reviewing thousands of death certificates in the state, 40% did not have COVID-19 as the underlying cause of death. Examples of this include death from physical injuries, a drowning, dementia, stroke and multi-organ failure. Franson said she and a team reviewed 2,800 “death certificate data points” and found that about 800 of them did not have the virus as the underlying cause of death.

    Dr. Jensen said that the CARES Act distributed $22-billion to hospitals through Health and Human Services that had a high number of Covid-19 positive inpatient admissions. The HHS reported that $10-billion was awarded to 395 high-impact hospitals. For every patient treated at the hospitals with a Covid-19 diagnosis, they received between $50,000 and $76,975 payments. 395 hospitals received an average of $25-million, a powerful financial incentive to fraudulently misdiagnose everything as Covid.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/coronavirus-death-certificates-minnesota-inflated

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  • Mon, Dec 28, 2020 - 9:38am

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    Re: WHO (finally) admits PCR tests create false positives

    Warnings concerning high CT value of tests are months too late…so why are they appearing now?   Is it to make it appear the vaccine works?

    Yes.

    I believe that's the case.

    Now that the vaccines are out, suddenly the MSM is talking about the amazing Vitamin D data, the WHO is warning us about high CT errors, and death certs are being properly investigated and recorded.

    Magic!  The death counts will now fall.

    All thanks tot he vaccine of course.

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  • Mon, Dec 28, 2020 - 9:52am

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    Kat43 said:

    The polio vaccine was declared a raging success.  But largely because the disease was immediately redefined so that far fewer cases of polio-like disease were identified as polio.

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  • Wed, Dec 30, 2020 - 9:42am

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    nanchesca said:

    Yes Chris, I predicted this would happen, these new 'miraculous' discoveries and we are already seeing it in the media! Well, either way I am thankful the news is getting out and maybe some lives will be saved because of it!

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  • Tue, Jan 05, 2021 - 9:55am

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    OH said:

    What are blister packs?

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  • Mon, Jan 25, 2021 - 1:22pm

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    Ivermectin in UK

    I'm sold on Ivermectin, and have been for some time, but live in the U.K. and I don't believe oral ivermectin is licensed here. Before I speak to my GP, is there anyone else here from the U.K. who has actually managed to get any ivermectin?
    As it is, I was able to source a small amount of hydroxychloroquine which I'll go with if the time comes although my feeling is ivermectin is now in pole position.

    And for info, not an antivaxxer and have had first shot of vaccine already but as Chris said, these are not mutually exclusive.

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  • Mon, Jan 25, 2021 - 1:48pm

    Bill in La Mesa

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    Bill in La Mesa said:

    I read ivermectin isn't prescribed for any human use in the UK; even scabies.  You do have your share of horses though, & the equine horse paste should be easy enough to come by.  I'm in the US, & got some pharmaceutical grade IVM from UnitedPharmacies Taiwan.  Had to do the bitcoin thing to buy it, which was a bit of an adventure.  Believe bitcoin is the standard now for all overseas pharmacy purchases.  Got some HCQ from India and they wanted bitcoin too.  I've done both the horsey sauce and tablets without any side effects.

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  • Tue, Jan 26, 2021 - 1:12am

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    Wilkins Micawber said:

    Thanks Bill. Really helpful. Bitcoin- yes, another party I'm late to! On that subject, any tips on a good platform for buying Bitcoin? Coinbase is the one I've heard most but basically I've no idea...

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  • Sat, Mar 27, 2021 - 6:52am

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    Draconian Vaccine Laws in Israel ( coming to a country near you?)





    Don't know how long this link will last ... Terrifying to me

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