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    Vitamin D Is A Powerful Bullet Against Covid-19

    Recent studies show we all should be taking it
    by Adam Taggart

    Wednesday, September 9, 2020, 3:18 PM

Several recent studies show that Vitamin D is a powerful weapon in preventing and treating covid-19. We all should be taking it.

It’s now been clinically proven that people deficient in Vitamin D are statistically more likely to contract the coronavirus if exposed. And similarly, those with greater Vitamin D levels are statistically less likely to get it.

And a new study out of Spain shows that Vitamin D (via Calcifediol) is one of the most effective treatments that reduces the impact of those infected with covid-19. When combined with a prudent standard of care including early delivery of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, the results are pretty staggering.

How staggering?

Of 50 patients treated this way, only one (2%) required admission to the ICU vs the control group where 50% of patients required admission.

Following the recent insights about the Bradykinin pathway of transmission, we are now really starting to gain the upper hand on understanding effective ways to prevent and treat covid-19. Which should enable us to save lives AND re-open our economies.

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  • Wed, Sep 09, 2020 - 5:31pm

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    Oliveoilguy

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    Chris....Why are you no longer recommending HCQ?

    Great discussion on D3 ....We all need levels at 70 or above. Mine tested at 124 last week and I kind of  freaked out....but maybe that isn’t so bad considering the Hydroxy25 levels they had during treatment in Spain.

    You mentioned in passing that Ivermectin is now your treatment of choice and there was no mention of HCQ. Could you please reveal the science behind that decision.

    Always interested in learning.....thanks for all you do.

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  • Wed, Sep 09, 2020 - 6:42pm

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    VitD levels in Arab women - The REAL patriarchy we're not supposed to criticize

    Great video, but one correction: you confused ng/ml with nmol/L. The ratio is 2.5, such that:

    200 nmol/L = 80 ng/ml (upper limit of optimal level)
    150 nmol/L = 60 ng/ml (optimal level starts here)
    100 nmol/L = 40 ng/ml (healthy level but largely without the extra benefits of optimal level such as no annual flu experience [asymptomatic])
    75 nmol/L = 30 ng/ml (officially considered sufficiency but is pretty low, this is much lower than ideal as can be seen in the image below, but even just getting everybody above this level might be almost enough to end the pandemic)
    50 nmol/L = 20 ng/ml (already extreme deficiency)
    20 nmol/L = 8 ng/ml (a DEATH WISH, not merely deficiency!)

    The most common number of the Arab women group is 4, yes 4 ng/ml!!! Any Arab/Muslim country not recommending vitamin D supplementation AND forcing women to cover their entire body, is genocidal. Yet we won't hear the Western "feminists" talking about this! Is this what the UN was referring to in its recent tweet? Of course not.

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  • Wed, Sep 09, 2020 - 7:20pm

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    gray8073

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    Rayaldee (Calcifediol) Study in the U.S.

    Here is a link to more information about the study that is underway in the U.S. for OPKO Health’s Rayaldee. https://www.opko.com/news-media/press-releases/detail/394/fda-authorizes-opko-health-clinical-trial-evaluating

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  • Wed, Sep 09, 2020 - 9:59pm

    Rootman

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    Chris is not done yet!!!

    Even though many breaktroughs have been made, I don't think all pieces are in place yet. Anyway, we need HCQ or quercetine to get the zinc into our cells.  But even then, in early Chinese in vitro studies of many traditional and cheap off patent drugs (the kind of throwing spaghetti against the wall and see what sticks) many compounds, like ivermectin and HCQ were promising. (I remember artemisia and praziquel, but there were many more, a lot of them not even with western names). We have not seen many follow up studies. They are not funded. When the news about 'covid organics' from Madagascar, consisting of artemisia, probably coffee and/ or another tropical herb, became somewhat public, The WHO warned against it, without any research, within one day!

    So I think, even if Chris lowers the frequency of his corona updates, he is not done yet for a long time coming!!!

     

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  • Wed, Sep 09, 2020 - 10:49pm

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    HCQ+AZI+zinc vs ivermectin

    According to the studies I read (Egypt, Bangladesh) Ivermectin seemed to have a better success rate than HCQ+AZI+zinc.  The study in Egypt on close contacts had around a 90% protection rating.  That was a lot better than HCQ's result from Boulware (reimagined), which best case was around 50% protective.

    https://www.trialsitenews.com/zagazig-university-randomized-controlled-ivermectin-study-results-confirms-pi-hypothesis-drug-effective-against-covid-19/

    That is, giving ivermectin to a close contact made them much, much less likely to get infected (7%) vs applying The Fauci Protocol (i.e. doing nothing) which resulted in 58% infected.

    But there isn't as much data behind the Ivermectin treatment as there is behind HCQ.

    Both HCQ and Ivermectin are vastly better than using the aforementioned Fauci Protocol, which is all that our $42 billion dollar/year NIH has managed to come up with after 6 months of effort.

    "Wear a mask, hide in the basement, and wait for a vaccine."

    And if we add this vitamin-D treatment to either one, this whole thing might be over with pretty quickly.

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  • Thu, Sep 10, 2020 - 4:26am

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    vit d level how much is too much

    https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminD-HealthProfessional/

    Serum concentrations >125 nmol/L (>50 ng/mL) are associated with potential adverse effects [1] (Table 1).

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  • Thu, Sep 10, 2020 - 4:40am

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    HCQ vs Ivermectin

    I still think HCQ is effective (in combination w/ Az + Zn, obviously) but it seems that Ivermectin is even more effective, and works during a wider window.

    That's based on not a lot of data for Ivermectin (also a combo) so far, but it's a 'best guess' given what we do have.

    My theory about why this is the case is based on the Bradykinin hypothesis which demonstrated a vast array of genes being switched on and off (more accurately, being up-regulated and down-regulated).

    While HCQ is helpful during an early stage of the viral replication window, probably by helping zinc get inside the cells while also favorably altering lysosomal pH to block viral entry, it's a fairly narrow window that shuts quickly.

    Ivermectin, it seems, may be helpful during a wider window by preventing the virus from taking over gene expression patterns (as it interferes with the importin protein dimer shepherding process).  If step one of Covid is the viral replication cycle, then step two is causing the body's RAS-Bradykinin system to go bonkers.

    So a wider window of utility, coupled to blocking the worst of the Bradykinin dysregualtion =  Ivermectin(+) being a better drug for blocking the worst of Covid.

    Just an hypothesis.  Waiting on more data.

    To be clear, I still think HCQ works - it just needs to be administered as early as possible.  Post symptom onset and the utility drops off very rapidly.  Meanwhile, Ivermectin has shown great benefit even to hospitalized patients.

    Meanwhile, there's really no harm in administering HCQ early and often.  Here's the first page of a big review of all the available literature by researchers without an ax to grind, apparently and refreshingly that just came out:

    (Source)

    Oh, would you look at that?  It's safe and it works.  "No credible study [has] found worse outcomes" with HCQ use.  No mortality issues.  It works and is safe.

    So odd how it didn't work and was so unsafe there for a while.

    Yes, the people who were demonizing HCQ are awful humans.  The worst of the worst.  Mass-murdery types.

     

     

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  • Thu, Sep 10, 2020 - 6:41am

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    HCQ or ivermectin as top drug?; VitD overdosing falsehoods

    @Rootman
    Even though many breaktroughs have been made, I don't think all pieces are in place yet. Anyway, we need HCQ or quercetine to get the zinc into our cells. But even then, in early Chinese in vitro studies of many traditional and cheap off patent drugs (the kind of throwing spaghetti against the wall and see what sticks) many compounds, like ivermectin and HCQ were promising. (I remember artemisia and praziquel, but there were many more, a lot of them not even with western names). We have not seen many follow up studies. They are not funded. When the news about 'covid organics' from Madagascar, consisting of artemisia, probably coffee and/ or another tropical herb, became somewhat public, The WHO warned against it, without any research, within one day!

    Yep, I'm pretty sure artemisia also works! However, I think the concern about malaria developing resistance is a real problem (artemisinins and their peroxide bridge are the #1 malaria treatment), and we've already screwed (or allowed our alleged leaders to screw) Africans quite enough, so why not stick to vitamin D, HCQ+zinc, ivermectin, NAC, maybe azithromycin/doxycycline, CDS...

    @davefairtex
    But there isn't as much data behind the Ivermectin treatment as there is behind HCQ.

    Yep, and more importantly, there is a bunch of totally FAKE SCIENCE behind the anti-HCQ studies, and it's extremely important that they get exposed and shamed by decent people everywhere (and those who administered, was it 3600mg, need to be put behind bars). So to my mind, HCQ should be pushed at least equally hard as ivermectin (because, as Chris put it, "Yes, the people who were demonizing HCQ are awful humans. The worst of the worst. Mass-murdery types"), along with vitamin D. They all work extremely well. Another great one is chlorine dioxide, which is already #1 in the Hispanosphere and approved in Bolivia, but is a harder sell (more previous propaganda against it and strong threats against its promoters, therefore harder to study, and it's also harder to use), at least in the Anglosphere.

    @Chris Martenson
    To be clear, I still think HCQ works - it just needs to be administered as early as possible. Post symptom onset and the utility drops off very rapidly. Meanwhile, Ivermectin has shown great benefit even to hospitalized patients.

    Great points, so ivermectin is probably #2 after vitamin D, though we have few studies to point to, but conversely the official narrativists have no fake anti-ivermectin studies to point to in their fake news, at least not yet. The side-effects of low-dose prophylaxis also seem to be almost non-existent (same with the others i.e. vitamin D, NAC, CDS), though the false narrative to some degree has it that HCQ is dangerous at any dose.

    VeganDB12
    vit d level how much is too much
    https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminD-HealthProfessional/
    Serum concentrations >125 nmol/L (>50 ng/mL) are associated with potential adverse effects [1] (Table 1).

    COMPLETE LIE!! Absolute rubbish using outdated data. 60-80 ng/ml is where it's at, and as Dr. Mercola explains in this article: "Warnings about “excessive vitamin D intakes” being dangerous are misleading and unwarranted, as toxicity has not been demonstrated until you hit blood levels above 200 ng/mL (500 nmol/L)".

    >100 ng/ml is where toxicity may start, but there are other factors at play such as magnesium, vitamin K2, vitamin A sufficiency. >200 ng/ml is definitely toxic. So as Mercola says "there's a significant margin of safety, even if you manage to exceed the optimal range."

    Even 100,000 IU per day can be taken for a few weeks without significant toxicity effects, and the main toxicity effect is unwanted calcification (calcium depositions in bad places like arteries and glands) which is caused by magnesium deficiency (and to a lesser degree vitamin K2 deficiency). So if you take ridiculously high doses of vitamin D (appropriate if you have a deficiency and get Covid or some other infection), you can counteract any toxicity effects with magnesium supplementation (a great idea anyway as most people are deficient and strong deficiency causes anxiety and fatigue).

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  • Thu, Sep 10, 2020 - 6:54am

    RandomMike

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    RandomMike said:

    I remember ten or fifteen years ago reading about doctors, perhaps in Australia, curing serious infections with Vitamin D doses like that, 100,000 units. But in a brief search now I don't see that.

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  • Thu, Sep 10, 2020 - 9:07am

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    Lets Eat!...ah wait a minute maybe not

    From NYC Small Business Services announcement;
    Early Guidance for Indoor Dining
    Restaurants will be allowed to reopen for indoor dining beginning on September 30th.
    They will be subject to rigorous inspection protocols and strict occupancy limits. Some requirements for restaurants include:
    • Serve customers at a maximum of 25% capacity
    • Conduct temperature checks at every front door
    • Collect Test & Trace data from at least one customer at each table
    • Close bar tops for seating
    • Offer COVID-19 protections like PPE for employees
    • Space tables six feet apart
    If New York City hits 2% in COVID-19 positivity rates, the City will immediately reassess.
    Once indoor dining begins, the public will be able to call 833-208-4160 to make a report or text VIOLATION to 855-904-5036.
    This new normal (?) sounds like a reasonable community oriented safety measure, but it also seems to be one step away from Total Information Awareness (TIA) (thank you General Poindexter) oh I mean Terrorist Information Awareness.
    "You will be vaccinated, resistance is futile"--I Hugh

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  • Thu, Sep 10, 2020 - 9:15am

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    artemisia vs artemisinin

    tbp-

    The malaria resistance occurs against the single extract artemisinin.  Artemisia annua (the plant) has a ridiculously complicated number of components to it, and - perhaps for that reason - the little malaria bugs do not seem to be able to develop resistance against all the different things that the A Annua plant came up with to defend itself.  Theoretically anyway.

    Case study where a bunch of patients had resistant malaria, and DLA (dried leaf Annua) tablets fixed them right up.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5547396/

    Artemisia annua dried leaf tablets treated malaria resistant to ACT and i.v. artesunate: case reports

    So when "science" extracts one component, you get resistance.  But if you just drink the tea, or take dried leaf annua (DLA), there's no resistance.  At least theoretically.

    They are doing a trial for A Annua vs COVID-19 (HCQ+AZI,ivermectin, A Annua), but of course they are slow-walking the trial.  It wont complete until May 2021.  The usual trick. Couldn't possibly do a 30 day trial for a 14-day treatment during a pandemic.  You know, like the one they did for remdesivir.

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04374019

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  • Thu, Sep 10, 2020 - 10:05am

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    Some Additional Interesting Info, IMO

    I recently bookmarked the link below after I wandered off on a different research track down parasite lane.  This article has several links which are of value if one has the time and interest.

    https://theconversation.com/why-medicinal-plants-could-play-a-role-in-treating-malaria-74458

    Also, I found this interesting:

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/49626389_Investigation_of_some_medicinal_plants_traditionally_used_for_treatment_of_malaria_in_Kenya_as_potential_sources_of_antimalarial_drugs

    Two major antimalarial drugs widely used today came originally from indigenous medical systems, that is quinine and artemisinin, from Peruvian and Chinese ancestral treatments, respectively. Thus ethnopharmacology is a very important resource in which new therapies may be discovered. The present review is an analysis of ethnopharmacological publications on antimalarial therapies from some Kenyan medicinal plants.

    You can download the PDF version (at the link above) or just look at Table 2 for a summary of data related to each plant investigated.

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  • Thu, Sep 10, 2020 - 10:09am

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    So...vitamin D, like in sunlight?

    Seems like I remember somebody saying sunlight and fresh air might be effective for treatment and prevention of covid, and getting horribly criticized over it...hm.

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  • Thu, Sep 10, 2020 - 10:36am

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    Treating Covid with nutrional and oxidative therapies

    I thought I'd share this small study done in Michigan published in the Public Health Policy Journal where 107 patients were treated with nutritional and oxidative therapies with good success.  This also feels to me like an approach that should get more research (but probably won't because it doesn't involved expensive drugs).
    https://www.publichealthpolicyjournal.com/clinical-and-translational-research?fbclid=IwAR17tC2PmkgKm8MwTrYBK5GT_a769TEbDUmygMBZYX2JGbgJQ_0udQyw9Q8

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  • Thu, Sep 10, 2020 - 1:42pm

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    HCQ studies review website

    Prof. Raoult recommended this site as the most complete review on HCQ studies: https://c19study.com/

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  • Thu, Sep 10, 2020 - 6:52pm

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    Pappy

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    problem w/ Ivermectin/Doxycyclene protocol in the US

    YMMV and I'd really like to hear if anyone has discussed an early treatment plan with their doctor if they get exposed. Below is my story:

    I recently asked 2 doctors and a nurse practitioner in my local hospital and clinic what would happen if I called up and said I was exposed to SARS2.  The similar looks on all 3 of their faces independently was both priceless and at the same time not reassuring:

     

    What happens if I believe I've come into contact with an infected person and start to feel ill?

    "You isolate and see if you get better."

    Are there any medications you are prescribing or are allowed to prescribe? Your early post exposure treatment is...

    (perplexed furrowed brows) "Nothing until it progresses. Not unless/until you need to be admitted."

     

    All three of these medical providers responded almost the exact same way.

     

    So my wife and I ordered drugs from India and we have a few z-packs hiding in the fridge.

    And we take our daily quercitin & D3 and get out in the sun often.

     

     

     

     

    I kinda hope I don't have to eat the equine Ivermectin apple paste. And we can't find doxycyclene without a script from India.

    Stupid America making me hit the grey market for my health care.

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  • Thu, Sep 10, 2020 - 7:24pm

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    Makes my blood boil

    Dave I could not agree with you more.  I call our present condition the result of Piss Poor Public Policy.  It's hard watching it happen in real time.

    Went to Bitchute today and listened to RFK, Jr. for quite a while.  The guy's a walking, talking encyclopedia of statistics, business/medical practices, and environmental toxins.  He discussed the Lancet retraction on HCQ and quoted the Lancet Journal  editor and an editor of another top medical journal.  Both editors claimed the journals were no longer reliable because they were beholden and controlled by pharmaceutical companies and collateral allies.  Not sure if the clip below discusses the medical journals, but lots of surfing opportunities at this link:

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/5jU3u6eWJU6y/

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  • Thu, Sep 10, 2020 - 7:37pm

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    Two-tiered justice system

    Yes, we are living in the realm of crimes against humanity.  Just look at the all the un-necessary deaths as a result of  the lock downs,  For every one percent unemployment rates there is a certain number who commit suicide, a certain number who end up in prison, a certain number that engage in suffer from domestic violence, a certain number that abuse intoxicants, etc.  There is a great human cost to shutting down society!

    F-Face-Fauci has known since 2005 that:  "Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread"  https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-2-69

    A fifty dollar fix and no need to shut down society.  These people are not stupid.  They knew what they were doing.

    Unfortunately we are living in a time where we are subject to a two-tiered justice system.  One system for MainStreet and one system for the elite, and it's global.

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  • Thu, Sep 10, 2020 - 7:48pm

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    9/10/20 Briefing

    Hey guys, ya'll can watch Chris' briefing here:

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  • Thu, Sep 10, 2020 - 11:25pm

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    Mark_BC said:

    And if we add this vitamin-D treatment to either one, this whole thing might be over with pretty quickly.

    Over... until the "big one" hits that Fauci has alluded to. Who knows what they're coking up as we speak with all the knowledge they gained about this one.

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  • Fri, Sep 11, 2020 - 1:32am

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    RandomMike said:

    Of course I agree with you, but to some extent it's a set-up. I mean, why do you even begin to think (and I know you especially don't) that someone other than yourself should be a reference for your health? Doctors? The medical services/establishment? They are part of your toolbox, or to borrow a saying from our President "They are what they are." Just something to use.

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  • Fri, Sep 11, 2020 - 4:26am

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    i just feel foolish

    RandomMike-

    Well, this is what they call a crisis of confidence in institutions.  Six months ago I just blithely assumed that the pandemic preparedness folks in government - the ones we give $42 billion per year to - would actually try to deal effectively with a pandemic when it arrived.  Because, you know, humanism, western rational thought, that sort of thing.  Most people are good, etc.

    [An aside: a black friend of mine - very sharp guy - just laughed at me.  "Wait, so you're telling me the system is rigged against you?  Now you are getting a taste of what we've dealt with for the last few hundred years."  He's sore because the GI bill didn't apply to black service members.  Apparently the GI bill was the single largest boost out of poverty in the last 100 years.  And blacks were deliberately cut out.  By the Democrats.  I digress.]

    Anyhow, yeah, I'm sore because I was tricked.  Or just foolish.  Or didn't look hard enough.  I sent my mom off to a doctor who basically killed her with "standard of care" chemotherapy.  This makes me very upset - now that I realize that The Fauci Protocol for Cancer is almost certainly just as useless [and a LOT more expensive] as The Fauci Protocol for COVID-19.

    "Wear a mask, hide in the basement, wait for the vaccine."

    So now I say, Defund the NIH.  They all need to go.  Replace them with people who care about Americans.  Who can only run trials on off-patent medicine and nutritional supplements.  Who can't work in industry for at least 10 years after leaving government service.  And who can't get patents in the field and cash in later.

    Until that happens, I now know with certainty that we are all on our own.  I can see all their tricks, how they game the system, what the setup is, and who they are working for.

    So that's a plus.  Someone once said, "you shall know the truth, and the truth will set you free."  And that's where I am today.

    I just still feel a bit foolish.

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  • Fri, Sep 11, 2020 - 7:24am

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    Mark_BC said:

    Exactly, I have lost a lot of faith in the medical  system over the years. I've been burned too many times, out of doctor neglect, arrogance, lack of knowledge, and even intentionally hurt. And others I know have been through similar experiences. It's not that all doctors are bad; many, probably most, are good. But the system is not set up for your benefit.

    You need to be responsible for your own health. Doctors don't own your health; you do, using the power of the internet. Doctors are tools to be used by you. You are in control, not them.

    The only difficult part of this is that doctors hold a monopoly on issuing medication so you can't just go buy whatever you want, at least here. As we have seen with Covid, the system will actually deny you the medicine you need.

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  • Fri, Sep 11, 2020 - 7:38am

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    a pinch of Anthrax 

    a pinch of Anthrax ought to do it.

    Side thought: if geneticists are so good, why don't they use CRIPR to turn the vitamin c producing gene back on?

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  • Fri, Sep 11, 2020 - 7:53am

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    wotthecurtains said:

    "As we have seen with Covid, the system will actually deny you the medicine you need."

     

    I noticed this as a significant milestone as well.   I wouldn't be surprised to see it shown that this sort of thing has happened before, but I still experienced this as as an "oh shit" moment.   I had always thought I was dealing with a slow moving bureaucracy but not one that aimed to actively harm me.

     

     

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  • Fri, Sep 11, 2020 - 10:27am

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    You will obey

    And the police forces will keep you in line, because that is their job, to protect property and maintain order.

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  • Fri, Sep 11, 2020 - 10:41am

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    Wait till you go down the Rabbit Hole to Vaccine Land

    To Dave, Mark, OOO, and whotthecurtains:  I'm not sure where you guys are on the  vaccine information highway, but it's  a long highway!  One of the secure places to get negative vaccine  information is on Bitchute, which I hope one day replaces Youtube.

    The vaccine inserts are  a great place to start for information, and google may let you  read the  inserts, but for sure you  could  find them on duckduckgo.

    I have posted this USSC  case several times here on PP.  Not sure if anyone has taken the time to read it.  The majority opinion is much shorter than the dissent.  This is the case where the  US Supreme Court says we cannot sue a vaccine maker for product liability.  It's against the law!  Here it is again for your reading pleasure:  https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-152.pdf

    In last nights  briefing from Chris, he intimated there is no need for  a  vaccine  when we have the cheap and effective with mild to zero  side effects treatment available.  Looks like Massachussett is gearing up for mandatory vaccination, just like Virginia, and just like NY and probably California.

    Is there where we draw the  line?

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  • Fri, Sep 11, 2020 - 12:16pm

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    Pappy

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    YOYO would work if...

    ...we could get doctors back into some version of private practice.

    A couple of determined, intelligent individuals with MDs that would be willing to hang up their shingles on the wall and open a practice.

    Even if it was community sponsored or a variant of affordable concierge medical service parallel to the mostly employer provided insurance schemes, it would allow alternative approaches to the over-priced and bloated BS I've been paying into for the last 25 years.

     

    It might almost be cheaper and easier to just go to medical school myself for the betterment of my own family, but who in their right mind would go $250k-$500k in debt to become a doctor today? No offense if you are doing or have done that, but jeez.

    My belief is that ANYONE who can get a B average in med school shouldn't have to pay for it, but I also believe that Americans shouldn't have to choose between going hungry or bankrupt without health insurance and receiving medical treatment.

     

     

    Naive is sometimes my middle name though.

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  • Fri, Sep 11, 2020 - 8:17pm

    Hladini

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    Naive Indeed

    The private practice of physicians is highly regulated.  In 46 states it is a crime for an MD to offer any treatment for cancer other than surgery, chemo or radiation, even if previous treatments have not worked.  The MD can lose his/her  license, pay a 10,000 fine and get up to 5 years in prison in some states.

    Look at how MDs are being regulated in regard to HCQ.  They are being told what the protocols are for Covid: send the patient home and wait till it gets bad enough to be admitted into the hospital.  I don't think the "go  home and wait it out" treatment program was developed by MD's in the clinics, hospitals, and GPs.  No, that is an on high, top down command.  Some MDs are trying to buck this system but many risk losing their license or their job.  At least one of the doctors featured in the video below has lost her job.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/OS1vhSinQbTM/

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  • Tue, Sep 15, 2020 - 4:21pm

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    Quercetin AND zinc

    Pappy, don't forget to take zinc along with your quercetin!

    P.S, if your fish need doxycycline, or your birds need azithromycin, you may want to check out: https://fishmoxfishflex.com/collections/fish-antibiotic-fish-doxy-doxycycline

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  • Tue, Sep 15, 2020 - 6:47pm

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    Australia confiscating HCQ destined for private citizens

    Hat-tip to user @Debu who just sent me this:

    https://www.rt.com/news/488133-australia-hydroxychloroquine-smuggle-coronavirus/

     

    Australia is now aggressively blocking HCQ shipments into the country destined for citizens.

    Look at that quote from the official about people wasting their money.   She could have said something diplomatic like "We know people are concerned but these are prescription meds and that system needs to be respected".

     

    Instead the government is fucking mocking its own people who they know are scared.

    Debu is a fellow Canadian who, like me, is waiting on an order of HCQ from Sunil at IndiaMart.

     

    Americans on PP seem to be getting their shipments but ours have been at Canada Customs for about 5 weeks now.

     

    Any other Canucks get theirs yet?   Canadians are all about following the rules.  I could see this stuff getting blocked without anyone even feeling the need to acknowledge or discuss it.

     

     

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  • Tue, Sep 15, 2020 - 7:14pm

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    2retired

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    2retired said:

    My canadian experience: My ivermectin came in 2 weeks from Suni, (it was a small package and an afterthought); my Hcq + order is still in transit after 4 weeks, supposedly now in Canada posts hands.

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  • Wed, Sep 16, 2020 - 7:36am

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    Missing Ionophores: EGCG (Green Tea Extract) & Quinine

    Chris,

    First, we miss your daily, then weekly Covid findings. Thank you.

    The attached photo shows the laboratory effectiveness of the three zinc ionophores: 1.) Chloroquine, 2.) EGCG (Green Tea Extract) 3. Quercitin (Onions, capers).

    Your concluding video states Hydroxychloroquine data shows that it works with zinc. But we cannot buy this over-the-counter in the US. Quercitin can be easily bought at any health food store and you recommend it. My doctor at Kaiser will not prescribe Hydroxychloroquine it to me because it is not written in his company's book for Standard Of Care!

    But you are silent on EGCG which in the laboratory is slightly less than Chloroquine but more effective than Quercitin. You are also silent on Quinine which came from Peru, then smuggled to Indonesia and used by Brits in India until synthetic Chloroquine was invented as cheaper. Then, Hydroxychloroquine was invented as both cheaper and fewer side effects.

    Please, please, can you make a statement about the readily available EGCG? Thank you. And at what dose of Quercitin & EGCG?

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  • Wed, Sep 16, 2020 - 7:47am

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    Naive in Fact Medical Board do no harm, blah blah

    "Regulation is the problem" you say? There is a long history of private physicians that are persecuted because of non-compliance of their therapy with a (corrupt) medical board (I guess you could call them regulators).  I'll go out on a limb here and say by my light many if not most medical boards have long been captured by big capitalist Pharma corp with a willing if not naive police force at their disposal. Let loose the dogs of the war on cancer, the war on physicians and the war on patients. Medical totalitarianism is "more like" the problem dude.

    The reality:

    https://www.change.org/p/dr-arnold-feldman-medical-board-corruption-is-violating-your-constitutional-rights

    vs. the glossy brochure version:

    https://oig.hhs.gov/compliance/compliance-guidance/docs/Practical-Guidance-for-Health-Care-Boards-on-Compliance-Oversight.pdf

     

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  • Wed, Sep 16, 2020 - 9:08am

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    US study finally validates effective use of Zinc with chloroquine

    Despite media pressures to the contrary apparently some New York treatments provided retrospective analysis of Hydroxychloroquine with and without Zinc to see the he ionophoric usefulness of the treatment.

    https://www.microbiologyresearch.org/content/journal/jmm/10.1099/jmm.0.001250

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  • Wed, Sep 16, 2020 - 9:19am

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    Kevin Padden

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    Cutting to the chase for the above...

    There has been significant interest in the use of zinc sulphate to treat and prevent COVID-19 infection and its use is being considered in several trials (NCT04326725, NCT04377646, NCT04370782, NCT04373733, NCT04351490) [9, 17, 18]. To our knowledge, we provide the first in vivo evidence on the efficacy of zinc sulphate in addition to hydroxychloroquine in COVID-19 patients. The main finding of this study is that the addition of zinc sulphate to hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin was found to be associated with a decrease in mortality or transition to hospice among patients who did not require ICU level of care, but this association was not seen for patients who were treated in the ICU. This result may reflect one of the proposed mechanisms by which zinc sulphate may provide protection against COVID-19. Zinc has been shown to reduce SARS-CoV RNA-dependent RNA polymerase activity in vitro [14]. As such, zinc may have a role in preventing the virus from progressing to severe disease, but once the aberrant production of systemic immune mediators is initiated, known as the cytokine storm, the addition of zinc may no longer be effective [19]. To further examine the ability of zinc to prevent viral replication and disease progression, future studies should measure viral RNA levels in clinical specimens before and after zinc administration. Our findings suggest a potential protective effect of zinc, potentially enhanced by a therapeutic synergistic mechanism of zinc sulphate with hydroxychloroquine, if used early on in presentation with COVID-19.

    Didn’t a little bird (C.M. Perhaps) whisper all this in our collective ears long ago?

    Thanks! I hope it someday leads to availability for the public.

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  • Thu, Sep 17, 2020 - 7:52am

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    tbp

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    Ionophore strength (HCQ vs QCT vs EGCG)

    @OC Mark
    The attached photo shows the laboratory effectiveness of the three zinc ionophores: 1.) Chloroquine, 2.) EGCG (Green Tea Extract) 3. Quercitin (Onions, capers).

    Your concluding video states Hydroxychloroquine data shows that it works with zinc. But we cannot buy this over-the-counter in the US. Quercitin can be easily bought at any health food store and you recommend it. My doctor at Kaiser will not prescribe Hydroxychloroquine it to me because it is not written in his company's book for Standard Of Care!

    But you are silent on EGCG which in the laboratory is slightly less than Chloroquine but more effective than Quercitin. You are also silent on Quinine which came from Peru, then smuggled to Indonesia and used by Brits in India until synthetic Chloroquine was invented as cheaper. Then, Hydroxychloroquine was invented as both cheaper and fewer side effects.

    Please, please, can you make a statement about the readily available EGCG? Thank you. And at what dose of Quercitin & EGCG?

    Great data, thanks. The y-axis numbers can't be seen, is it a log or linear scale (looks linear)? Does it say the doses used? Where did you get it from?

    There's an issue with EGCG to consider which is that the tea plant is good at absorbing heavy metals that may be present in the soil, so you need organic and non-China to be fairly certain it's free of heavy metals.

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