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The much anticipated FDA “approval” on August 23rd of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine made global headlines, spurring a new round of employer mandated vaccination policy announcements. But what exactly does this “approval” entail? Is this the true gold standard indicator of safety that the rigorous FDA approval process claims to convey, or just a creatively worded re-definition of the Emergency Use Authorization already in place? If the latter, the current tidal wave of vaccine mandates by employers are neither legal nor enforceable. So what’s an employee to do? Cut past the noise to learn about your rights and options. 

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NY Times: F.D.A. Fully Approves Pfizer-BioNTech’s Vaccine, a First for a Covid-19 Shot: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/23/health/pfizer-vaccine-approval-fda.html \

FDA “Approves” Pfizer Vaccine: https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download 

What An Approval Letter Actually Reads Like:

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/appletter/2021/761178Orig1s000ltr.pdf 

Member of FDA’s Expert Panel Resigns Over Controversial Alzheimer’s Therapy Approval: https://www.statnews.com/2021/06/08/fda-expert-panel-resigns-alzheimers-approval/ 

One-Third of New Drugs Had Safety Problems After FDA Approval: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/05/09/527575055/one-third-of-new-drugs-had-safety-problems-after-fda-approval <

Mother Weeps As She Tells Senator How Pfizer Shot Left Her Daughter Wheelchair-Bound:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/mother-weeps-as-she-tells-senator-how-pfizer-shot-left-her-daughter-wheelchair-bound/ 

Doctor Talks to NFL Team About Vaccines, Says Americans Should be ‘More Worried About Taking Aspirin’:
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  • Tue, Aug 24, 2021 - 9:31pm

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    summitday113

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    Meanwhile, in Australia

    https://www.hngn.com/articles/237438/20210823/australian-government-under-fire-fatally-shooting-15-rescue-dogs-over.htm

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  • Tue, Aug 24, 2021 - 11:54pm

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    here's how bad it's getting out there

    The war on us proceeds on multiple, multiple fronts;

    Not an isolated incident;

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:17am

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    Video deleted

    Can this video be put up on bitchute or rumble, since youtube deleted it before I could watch. The censorship everywhere is so frustrating!

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:17am

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    Desley Mendoza said:

    YouTube video taken down for violating terms of service.

    How disgusting is this censorship?

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:18am

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    Sport7777777 said:

    Okay I was just trying to watch the update and Youtube must have removed the video. It stopped playing right in the middle of watching. Can we get the video put up on another platform like Rumble? I am assuming Youtube did not like the video.

    V/r

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:18am

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    mirroredname said:

    Viktor Frankl has said that war brings out the best and worst in people.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:24am

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    simmoko said:

    I'd just heard the Dr say news headlines were inaccurate, and then (YouTube) video stopped, only to find it had been removed from the public. Glad to see you have the audio on here at least.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:24am

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    Trust not Affirmed by YouTube

    Literally was watching the video about the FDA and mandates, and then it was taken down from YouTube. You were just reading the letters and articles. The video actually cut out when you were talking about trust. Go figure there’s none.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:26am

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    Question about data integrity

    For the data that Chris spoke about re: menstrual cycles, is it possible that this wasn't reported by the FDA because of a lack of evidence in a double blind study (while headaches, etc did appear?). I ask because the ~30,000 reported incidents that Chris cited through VAERS (171 million total fully vaxxed, or ~85 million women) corresponds to a one in 2,833 per fully vaxxed woman. Unfortunately I do not know of reputable data sources on this, but could this mean that any woman who notes a change in menstrual cycle that recently had the vaccine may falsely attribute that to the vaccine? The question essentially boils down to: how likely is a cycle to be irregular, and is that occurrence more likely post-vaccine?

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:28am

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    Oh wow I must have finished watching two minutes before it got taken down. This further supports the idea that the information age has transitioned to the disinformation age

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:30am

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    YT has taken the video down

    YT has taken the video down

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:33am

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    Thanks Chris

    Great video as usual. I'm really sorry about the censorship; it shocked and upset me to see it. I hope justice is served one day.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:34am

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    unbelievable censorship

    No misinformation. What is going on now is beyond censorship - the threatening of doctors.. this is not about science.  Its about politics clearly.  I cant believe we are at point this bad - that no more medical exemptions - oh the state will allow them - but medical boards will not allow doctors to give them.   this has been going on in NY and CA for years.  Drs have been intimidated into not giving exemptions as its the only exemptions still allowed in the states, but you cannot get them

    We have gone full on vaccine war - which i predicted.  But it has shown the true power of those in charge to control every single string of media, every single board  of licensing - every little politician.  EVERYTHING.   I can say if I were 20 years old without family, I would have made this war physical by now.  Too bad the young strong youth today are totally indoctrinated.    I am not sure we have anything left to save.

    In the end, this is far beyond being about just the vaccine.  We have taken this country to nothing during this plandemic.   and the media are culpable in a way that is maddening.  politicians , and FDA , CDC , all this is expected, they have been owned by the special interest for decades.   I have recommendation at this point, stock up on every single supplement you will ever need.  This are going to be pulled in short order.

    In less than 1 year you will have nothing , and be totally reliant on the govt for even your food.  And as much as I think farming yourself seems like a good idea, I see indications, that they will poison your water, spray chemicals, cut your power etc.

    I think by the time most people realize the battle is as hand, it will be far too late.  I say if we went guns a blazing tomorrow - it probably is still too late.   But there is nowhere in the real US , one single bit of what is going is legal.  And no one ever gets punished but the whistle blower.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:36am

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    dfjhumanist said:

    Time to start putting these videos on Rumble.com, I think ...

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:56am

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    Youtube

    I watched this one on youtube, the comments stoped to work at some time (no sorting for newest, no option to read responses, no option to comment myself) but i was able to finish watching this. After i finished, i couldn't find the video anywhere anymore.

     

    They let people finish watching videos, before they delte/shadowbann. But that makes sense, otherwise it would be to obvious and would make people mad (stoping during a video would give those reactions)

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:57am

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    Had.it.up.to.here. said:

    I just saw that too. I was responding to a comment when the video was taken down. I guess (((they))) decided that Chris and people in the comments were too close to the target. That's where you catch the most flak, you know.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:58am

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    think.independently said:

    It's awful. censorship is rampant and it gives me all the more reason to hold off from getting this vaccine...especially because it doesn't even stop the spread.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:00am

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    Just saw it before it was removed

    Just finished watching, and was EXTREMLY impressed, and about to put a link on Twitter/FB/Gab, but when I did "share" it came up with the "removed" warning.

    We are living in a dark time in human history.  One of the darkest

    [EDIT]

    Here is the link on Odysee, for those that missed it on YouTube:

    https://odysee.com/@Chris_Martenson:2/vaccine-mandates-are-here:e

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:00am

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    think.independently said:

    How do you post a comment? I can't find the button on the website.   and yeah Google, the owner of youtube, will censor this like crazy. it's not long until this website gets taken off Google search engine

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:01am

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    Mabus said:

    nah, they let you finish watching it - they don't want to get attention for their censorship.

     

    1. Once the comments don't work as intended, they already deleted it

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:02am

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    Advice please?

    Hello Chris and thank you for all the valuable information you’ve given us.

    I’d like to see if someone can help. For now I can’t afford the fees for a doctor on the FLCCC site to get Ive.

    I have my own doc but he doesn’t wanna prescribe me it. Does anyone know where i can perhaps get it in pill form at a price lower than 80 dollars? I take care of 5 siblings and am the oldest  (i’m 22). I wanna help them get on a good regimen. or if there’s not a place that cheap, i’m not good at math so the p*ste is difficult to dose, if anyone can help there as well since my family members’ weights vary. Sorry if this was hard to read, english is not my first language. Thank you and God bless you all

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:02am

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    Response to YT has taken the video down

    Note sure why people are still using YT, you can find the video on Odysee and support the move to a better world rather than continuing to support, even while complaining about, the old one.

    https://odysee.com/@Chris_Martenson:2/vaccine-mandates-are-here:e

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:03am

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    Link on a non-fascist site

    Here is the link on Odysee, for those that missed it on YouTube:

    https://odysee.com/@Chris_Martenson:2/vaccine-mandates-are-here:e

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:18am

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    LadyRebekahOfMomalot said:

    Thanks for the link. 🙂 I didn't know Chris posted vids anywhere other than youtube, otherwise I would have supported the other site.

    I despise y-tube, facebk, twettr, insta, and all the other time-wasting, garbage (so-called) social media. Boycott them all.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:23am

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    Marshall_S said:

    I have been ordering all the medications at evo-pharmacy.com - they are located in Germany, I think, but the pills come from Mumbai, but they seem fine.  Cheap? Well, maybe not that cheap.  I've bought a  year's worth of IVM and also, of HCQ, and a few other medications, so it's not that cheap, and it takes 3-4 weeks to get an order, but there's no prescription needed, and I think that is what you're looking for - esp as you can't seem to find a doctor who will proscribe IVM for you.

     

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:27am

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    changes in menstrual cycle

    This is my "legit" reason for not getting vaxxed. I have a serious medical condition related to my reproductive organs. Any slight change in hormones for me is disastrous.

    My support group for my disease is full of these stories. There was one in particular that I can't forget- a woman who had menopause eight years ago and bled days after the vax. Eight years no bleeding and suddenly she has a period again? What does that even mean? I've seen several of these stories from post-menopausal women. Another anecdote- my sister was one of the first to be vaxxed, back in early March. Her menstrual cycle still has not returned to normal. Today I finally convinced her to report it to VAERS.

    When I told my doctor this was the precise reason I didn't want the vax, he laughed in my face while admitting that it was true that the vax is affecting menstrual cycles. He still won't give me medical exemption. This is a disease that had me bed ridden two years at one point. The lack of compassion from people recently has my head spinning. These same people claim that they are protecting people like me by getting the jab, then turn their backs on us.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:30am

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    Jgorski01 said:

    I’m certain we don’t have “data” on their irregularity of women’s cycles, but usually irregular means off by a day or a week, not bleeding 3-90 extra days. Women tend to know what is outside the bounds of “irregular” for them. It should at minimum be looked into…especially cases where menopausal women start bleeding again or literally anything more than like 8 days of bleeding, especially heavy.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:32am

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    Does the FDA think these data justify the first full approval of a covid-19 vaccine?

    Take away from Peter Doshi

    "The “six month” preprint based on the 7% of trial participants who remained blinded at six months"

    Delta may not be responsible for waning immunity

    "Yet, the trials were not designed to study severe disease."

    I"n the preprint, high efficacy against “severe covid-19” is reported based on all follow-up time (one event in the vaccinated group vs 30 in placebo), but the number of hospital admissions is not reported so we don’t know which, if any, of these patients were ill enough to require hospital treatment. (In Moderna’s trial, data last year showed that 21 of 30 “severe covid-19” cases were not admitted to hospital; Table S14).

    And on preventing death from covid-19, there are too few data to draw conclusions—a total of three covid-19 related deaths (one on vaccine, two on placebo). There were 29 total deaths during blinded follow-up (15 in the vaccine arm; 14 in placebo)."

    " ..13 months into the still ongoing, two year pivotal trial, with no reported data past 13 March 2021, unclear efficacy after six months due to unblinding, evidence of waning protection irrespective of the Delta variant, and limited reporting of safety data. (The preprint reports “decreased appetite, lethargy, asthenia, malaise, night sweats, and hyperhidrosis were new adverse events attributable to BNT162b2 not previously identified in earlier reports,” but provides no data tables showing the frequency of these, or other, adverse events.)"

    With data like that how could they not approve it 🙁

    Does the FDA think these data justify the first full approval of a covid-19 vaccine?

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:33am

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    Video being taken off of YouTube

    I guess this is the new normal, I had just finished watching it less than 2 hours ago on YouTube, and now it's gone there. It's sad and I hope we stand up against this - I have no idea how we do that exactly, but if it comes down to it, we have to be ready to walk away from these platforms and perhaps (again, if it comes down to it) the jobs that require the jab.

    I have a friend that just got her first jab, her job required it but it so happens she lives on Wall Street, in Manhattan.  Now, her building requires that she be jabbed as well to get any type of service request for an exterminator.  Now, she moved in a few months back, in February, unjabbed, but with that policy now, it's not hard to see that at the next lease renewal, they might require the jab as well.

    I live right across the river in NJ and it's a little different here but the governors in the eastern corridor act in lockstep, so perhaps we will see this overreach here too.

    And, at some point, we may have to walk away from that too or fight. Hmm,.. if Gandhi were alive, what would he do now?

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:37am

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    TIMEisKEY said:

    Dannnng deleted super fast on YouTube. They took this thing down fast i hope some downloaded it and will upload it again.

    Also google.com and chrome are slowing speeds to get to your site.... duck duck go gets me here asap.. its insane

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:42am

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    goodness they are on this one huh

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:47am

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    MadRocketScientist said:

    I have a download of the video as I download them all as soon as I can after the premier, Chris will still have a copy and hopefully he will upload to a more friendly platform.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:53am

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    bethafoot said:

    So - the thing is, if a woman's cycle is normally erratic, this isn't something she will take note of. But when a woman's cycle is regular and predictable and then suddenly isn't, we generally know that is a warning sign that something is wrong. It could be all sorts of things - even immense stress can cause it.

    What's interesting is that mine has been pretty consistent for almost a decade since my last kid and right after my MOTHER got the jab, I short cycled. I don't even know what to think of that. I have since talked to a lot of other unvaccinated women who said their cycles were out of whack when someone living in close proximity to them was vaccinated. Isn't that weird?

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 2:18am

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    betha - exposure to the shedding and menstruation

    I have heard an awful lot about the proximity to vaccinated, having the same issues.   Obviously, there is shedding from the vaccinated.   It is reasonable to think there are some effects that would self-spreading.

    I think Chris was more focused on the evidence of those directly given the shot, as something that should be setting off flags regarding side-effects and informed consent.  As for the other, this is more a separate topic but probably related to the same physical mechanism. ( by subsequent exposure through contact not injection)

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 2:38am

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    why cominarty & Pfizer

    My sense is, if "Cominarty" was approved and AVAILABLE - then they'd have to yank the EUAs for Moderna and JNJ according to the EUA rules.

    Basically this is a totally fake "approval."

    "Ok so we will APPROVE this vaccine that you cannot get, and since it isn't *actually* available, we still get to extend the EUA to all the treatments we feel like having EUAs for."

    Probably including Molnupiravir, coming soon.

    I got the clue for this from Alex Berenson:

    https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1430389003337994240

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 2:41am

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    Great Video Chris

    One of your hardest hitting, clear, good, available to all.

    Thank you. Passing along.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 2:43am

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    Religious exemption

    Ask for religious exemption would be the next recourse I think, for government employees.

    https://pacificjustice.org

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 2:48am

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    why they are moving fast

    I am thinking maybe they are trying to yank an "approval" out as soon as possible because of the Ivermectin study being conducted at Oxford University now? Once that proves Ivermectin works, they will have to remove the EUAs for all mRNA "vaccines". I wonder if this could be the main reason why.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 2:51am

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    Censored for what?

    Please let us know what their beef was with it? I’m so curious, it’s like another  puzzle piece really. It was great.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 2:59am

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    Brilliant!

    thank you so much!

     

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 5:08am

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    Mael Duin said:

    It's time to dump YouTube. Many channels I have been following along with PP are now on Odysee, Bitchute, Rumble.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 5:09am

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    You can watch Dr. Martenson's deleted YouTube video here

    https://odysee.com/@Chris_Martenson:2/vaccine-mandates-are-here:e

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 6:11am

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    Big time fan. First time caller.

    I believe opposing points of view help paint clearer pictures of the truth. And, while my belief seems to be in the minority, I’m proud of the work you do and fortunate to have to found your web site early on. I am sorry you’re experiencing “censorship”. I do not support censorship in any form; It’s nasty virus spreading amongst the uneducated and weak willed, protect yourself.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 6:15am

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    Censorship

    Our apologies for the inconveniece caused by YouTube's censoring of this video.  You'll notice the video is now back up on this page using an alternative player.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 6:24am

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    Hans said:

    Hi Chris,

    I just listened to the audio recording. Fantastic as always. What made you think Youtube would not remove this one? haha 🙂

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 7:01am

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    Thanks so much for sharing this !!

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 7:56am

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    Comirnaty

    Comirnaty.  = Come-here-naughty

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 7:58am

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    DeborahGingras said:

    If I am interpreting the FDA press release correctly, I believe "Comirnaty" will be the trade name or brand name for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine.   Not so sure that they are two different products.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 8:03am

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    So EUAs must be cancelled if Pfizer is approved?

    Logically if Pfizer is approved doesn’t that mean Moderna and J&J can no longer have EUA? Total deception!

    https://t.me/eh_den/61

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 8:11am

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    Tingling tongue

    I get a tingly tongue these days, has never happened in my whole life until this year. It happens after I am in a building near people who have been vaxxed. It is a bit like having a burnt tongue but with pins and needles. I haven’t burnt my tongue recently. Ivermectin makes it go away in an hour or two.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 8:18am

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    VAERS, Pregnancy and Spontaneous Abortions

    10-15% of pregnancies end before 20 weeks in spontaneous abortions.  If the VAERS or UK yellow card systems were fit for purpose all of these would be reported.  So if the US has vaccinated 1,000,000 pregnant women within the first 2o weeks of pregnancy then there should be a minimum of 100,000 SAs recorded in the system.  As it stands VAERS has recorded 691 SAs suggesting that the US has vaccinated just 6900 pregnant women in total.

    If we know precisely how many pregnant women have been vaccinated then we can accurately access the level of under-reporting in VAERS because we know that 10-15% of that number should be logged as SAs in the system.  So if 1 million pregnant women had been vaccinated and this led to 691 SAs on the system we would know that at best, the system was only reporting 0.5% of serious events.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 8:31am

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    Frances Savica said:

    Post-menopause bleeding is usually a sign of endometrial cancer.  Not saying that these women have cancer, but they will be told to have an endometrial biopsy which is very painful.  I’ve had two in my life, and wouldn’t want another ever.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 9:03am

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    stealyourface said:

    I posted this on another thread...

    My sister and I are both nurses (15 yrs and 20 yrs) in different cities. Both our employers are mandating the shot. I was able to get a religious exemption by simply submitting a short typed response and electronically submitting it.

    On the other hand, my sisters employer requires a paper form with a religious leader signature essentially stating her affirmation of faith. When asking her religious leader that she has known for many years, this was his response:

    Good morning, XXXX  I trust this finds you well.

    I wish to follow up with your inquiry about seeking religious exemption from taking the COVID vaccination.  In the past two days we-priests have received word about exemptions from the Archdiocese of (Her town).

    The Archdiocese recommends that I do not sign anything for religious exemption.  Reasons being:

    1. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act should not need an accompanying letter for someone to claim exemption if it exists.  As citizens we are simply allowed to claim our rights under the Constitution, and there are not other places where someone needs to get a letter from their religious organization top claim such a right. 
    2. The Holy Father and the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith (of the Vatican) are encouraging us to receive the vaccine.  However, as in all things, people are able to follow their conscience, and should follow their conscience (while they also have to form their conscience).

    Hope this information is helpful to you as you proceed.  If visiting over the phone about this would be helpful, please call me at XXX

    So you can apply for religious exemptions but now certain denominations or leader or groups are being instructed to not sign requests

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 9:08am

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    SDHodges- the math

    I really like where you are going with this analysis.    But, it really is quite a bit more alarming than even the numbers you suggest.  I agree, that 691 is a far inaccurate number.   We have seen from the one study where it was determined that 81% of vaccinated pregnant women under week 20 had SA.   I have also seen studies suggesting only about 45% of pregnant women have been vaccinated.  The question is how many pregnancies occur each year in the US?  about  (3.7M)  divide in half to get vaccinated amount of 1.8M.  at anyone time half would be less than 20 weeks.  so about .9 million vaccinated.  So if 1 million vaxxed before 20 weeks, with 81% SA.  that is about  800k SAs expected.   vs reported 691.   its less than .1% reported.  Not the estimated 1% or your generous .5%.   If this is indeed the level of under reporting,   We can estimate more than 1 million people have died from the vaccine with 30 days of the vaccine.   And if vaccinated are at about 190M americans.   We are looking at a 30 day kill rate of 1:200 approximately.   I do believe this is probably accurate.   Most of these are not going to be reported.  they will be brushed off as just heart attacks or other coincidental events.

    In the end, the vaccine has killed more , far more people than the virus.  We know that the Govt officials admitted, that if a person in hospice died of kidney failure ( their condition ) and tested positive for covid ( using the crap 45 cycle prc ) it was recorded as a covid death.   So considering that the average age of death with covid was 77 years with 2 co-morbidities,  you have to think that actual deaths are likely to only be 1/4th of this.   In fact, if you check the excess deaths reported(cdc) for all 2020, there were zero difference in deaths compared to the previous 7 years.

    So, i see we have killed more than one million americans,  and likely 800k aborted children with this vaccine, for a disease that killed about 2-3 times as much as a bad flu.  ( but weighted more towards elderly and infirm )

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 9:11am

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    No statistically significant data for vaccinating under 50s in terms of hospitalization and deaths

    In PHE VoC technical briefing 21 the CFR for the vaccinated under 50s is 0.07% and the CFR for the unvaccinated under 50s in 0.04%.  How can a vaccine be authorized or mandated when in terms of deaths there is no statistically significant effect for this age group?  No wonder the manufacturers don't include hospitalizations or deaths in their 90% effectiveness claims.

    Superficially it appears that there is a small effect on the number of hospitalizations but it doesn't make any sense.  0.9% of vaccinated infections led to hospitalization against 1.7% in the unvaccinated under 50s.  However, it you look at the hospitalization fatality rates we find that 7.4% of them died in the vaxxed group against just 2.4% in the unvaxxed.

    We can only speculate why this anomaly exists.  My suspicion is that if 2 people went to a hospital with identical symptoms and one was fully vaccinated and the other unvaccinated, then a Doctor seeing that A had been fully vaccinated would be more confident that the illness would not progress much and would be more likely to admit the unvaccinated person for observation as there is a confounding effect that they are perceived to be more at risk.  This means that only the more serious cases presented by the vaccinated are being admitted to hospitals and hence a CFR which is three times higher than in the unvaccinated cohort.  I believe that this indicates that there is no statistically significant difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated under 50s in terms of hospitalization so the vaccines cannot be authorised or mandated on those grounds either.  These statistics would also seem to invalidate the emergency use authorizations.

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1012644/Technical_Briefing_21.pdf

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 9:21am

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    wheels are turning very logically SDhodges

    I am with you.  It hard to see that you have more unvaxxed admissions and about the same death rates for vaxxed and unvaxxed.  The only explanation is that the unvaxxed are overly admitted to the hospital in comparison to the vaxxed.    Which makes a lot of sense.  It would be hard to believe, that a doctor would not use their vaccination status as means of criteria for admission.

    The only other explanation would be, that we do see more severe illness across the board with the unvaxxed.  and most vaccinated people are protected from that.   However, a small percentage of the vaccinated are suffering from very very severe illness ( ADE )

    Take your pick - vaccine is useless, or vaccine causes ADE in some?

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 9:22am

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    Frances Savica said:

    This whole thing makes no sense. (Nonsense). The FDA “approves” a brand of a jab that doesn’t even exist. They don’t “approve” Pfizer; that remains under EUA. But they say that Pfizer can be used “interchangeably” with the “approved” jab.  So Pfizer gets to piggyback off the “come-here-naughty” approval, while retaining its liability protection under the PREP Act.  It’s a publicity stunt.  All we hear now in the MSM, including from Biden and Fauci, is that the Pfizer jab has been officially approved, so no more excuses, go get jabbed. And more mandates coming because it’s now “approved.”  They’re lying.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 9:37am

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    Wow, just wow, the wheels come off in lightning speed. There must be an increased urgency

    My guess is that there is something really nasty ongoing that required extremely fast follow-up and increased repression. The only scenario that I can think of is that "they" feel "threatened": they want to protect their "gain":

    1. Biden is going to be replaced?
    2. The dollar is on the verge of collapsing: the US can now forget any sympathy from China or Russia since they have deliberately armed muslim rebels in their "back garden"?
    3. Maybe it has been proven beyond the shadow of doubt that the US elections have been stolen; possibly leading to a humongous s$%t storm?
    4. More and more people are regretting the jab?
    5. More and more people are waking up?

    Whatever the reason, I truly hope that this is the start of "death-throws" of this whole horror show. But I'm honestly afraid that in that case "they" will follow the logic of "Vogon Jeltz" from the "Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy": If I have a bad day, your day will be worse.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 9:39am

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    Percent with irregular periods

    I’m going to hypothesize that the percentage with irregular periods is huge.

    You can say millions of women have been vaxxed but how many of those are not on birth control and have regular periods.  You don’t really figure this out until about 20 and by about 45 you would start chalking irregularities up to peri menopause.

    The number of 20 to 45 yo vaxxed women with regular periods who are not on birth control, pregnant or breastfeeding (cause that makes it wonky too)  is probably small.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 9:40am

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    Collaps in birth rate ahead

    well NJ, the definite answer we should have in 6-9 month. If there is really a significant influence, then we should see a collapse of the monthly birth rate equivalent to:

    estimated spontaneous abortions rate attributed to vaxxination impact (which would be SA rate in vaxxinated pregnancies [currently suggested 70-80%]   -   usual SA rate [~15%]   *   average vaxxination rate of pregnant mothers for the statistical month minus 6-7 month.

    That would mean, taking your numbers, that we should see a monthly birth deficit for the US of:

    (0.8 - 0.15) * 0.45 = 0.293     @ 10266/day   ->   approx. 92000 birth at the beginning of next year on top of the reduction due to the social impact of Covid.  (US only)

    That should not be possible to hide anymore and therefore this might be another reason they rush the vaxxination mandate.

     

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 9:40am

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    Frances Savica said:

    Pfizer hasn’t been “approved.” Comirnaty, a brand name, has been approved, but there is no Comirnaty available yet.  (Will it ever be?) So the Pfizer, Moderna and J&J jabs remain under EUA.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 10:29am

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    Video was removed from Youtube

    I tried to catch this video on Youtube, however it was removed for violating Youtube rules.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 10:32am

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    Comic relief...

    This was a good one...

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 10:37am

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    Some much needed humour?





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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 10:41am

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    "Too prepared" = extremist

    According to FB, being too prepared is extremist:

    https://twitter.com/Baldprivilege/status/1430300935939633165/photo/1

    Supposedly, results of a poll of young people:

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/08/young-people-millennials-and-generation-z-change-future?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social_scheduler&utm_term=Youth+Perspectives&utm_content=25/08/2021+03:00

    Excerpt, from part 3, digital literacy: tackle misinformation:

    • Governments to implement policies to protect individual citizens against harmful content

     

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 11:07am

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    skipkent said:

    The 'Club of Rome' weirdos Al Gore et al have been promising exactly this for a long time.  They dream of turning the planet into an eco theme park for a small portion of elites and scraping the rest of us into the bin.  They're 'saving the planet' of course so it's all just as noble as can be.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 11:10am

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    New Comirnaty IS still under EUA?

    From what I gather, the EUA applies to the newly approved Comi(RNA)ty vax as well. Thus giving any and all involved (gov, manufacturer, employer) no liability still. Please dig in! This is huge from a mandating perspective too as it removes the ability of an employer to ask an employee to get it against their will.

    Also, on the topic of irregular menstrual cycles.  Maybe you're addressed in other videos, but...

    Women who have NOT gotten the jab, and have simply been around those who have been, are being affected. It happened to my young daughter and myself. I started digging and found other anecdotal evidence. I took a small survey amongst my friends haha, and a surprising amount amongst the small sample size reported the same. No jab, but exposure to the jabbed, with irregular, lengthened, heavier, etc. periods. Would love for you to address if you haven't!

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 11:18am

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    Slander via Extremism...is propaganda.

    Naturally, if one is an "Extremist" one must be some sort of Nut Case...right?

    What about those who are extremely intelligent?  ...Moral?  ....Ethical?  ....physically fit?  ...Honest?   ....Rational?    ....good looking?    ....wealthy?    ....successful?     ...careful driver?   ....kind?   ....good at their jobs?    ....logical?     .....in love?    ...prepared?   ...competent?   ....Just?    ....Educated?

    In combat, one can hardly ever be...too prepared.   In the preservation of one's life, and the lives of those one values, at what point are one's actions too extreme?

    I shall tell you.

    Logically,  one has become TOO EXTREME when one's actions become a negative effect...an attack...on one's Primary Values, for which benefit those actions were taken.  This would then indicate the presence of IRRATIONALITY, which always acts to destroy Rational Values.

    It is not "Extremism" which is bad in itself...it is the VALUE, which motivates it, which dictates whether it is good, or evil.

    Being extremely good...is not the same as being extremely evil.  Now...  What do you consider to be the good... and what do you think is evil?   What advances LIFE...and what destroys it?

     

     

     

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 11:29am

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    Delaying Tactic

    Not sure if this topic has been raised yet - but -
    would this work as a possible delaying tactic?
    If you are mandated to get the jab by your work then tell them the only one you will take is the FDA approved Comirnaty because the existing ones are only EAU.
    By the time they get them delivered (particularly in Canada) then this whole shit show will hopefully have fallen apart.
    Be keen to hear people’s thoughts on this.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 11:34am

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    COMIRNATY BRAND IS LICENCED AND APPROVED...DOES NOT NEED EUA.

    Only new manufactured Pfizer mRNA serums, properly labeled with the name, "Comirnaty" has been licensed and approved by the FDA.   The existing stock of EUA Pfizer serums, are still authorized...under the original EUA...which has been extended...so existing stocks of the "vaccine" may still be used.

    Especially, as NO existing stocks of the COMINATY brand serum is available, or has been distributed for use.

    This creates two legally different Pfizer "vaccines," which are handled differently in regards to liability.

    It is in the best interest of Pfizer to continue to use all of its existing stocks of their mRNA serums, before considering the use of newly manufactured Comirnaty serum.

    When the existing stocks of the EUA serums are gone, THEN Pfizer may present and use Comirnaty.  However, it is most likely the existing stocks of the EUA mRNA vaccines are sufficient to achieve full inoculation of the target populations.  Therefore, the Comirnaty Brand...may never be used at all.

    You see, the FDA can withdraw its current approval for this new brand...before it is ever actually injected into anyone...in a future reaction to the outcry of damages caused by the EUA serums.

    Thus, Pfizer gets to keep its 33 Billion, plus...profits, totally protected by the hold-harmless for any liability, as afforded by the EUA.

    The FDA approval is basically a propaganda ploy to further political force upon the unvaxxed, while preserving Pfizer's protections.

    Everything is a lie, a scam, and totally corrupt.

    Have fun!

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 11:43am

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    IUDs are FDA approved

    Will schools and businesses be allowed to start mandating those?  It would certainly help the graduation rates.

    Maybe bars and rock concerts could start mandating proof of IUDs.  An unplanned pregnancy in the under 25 set is far more life changing than Covid.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 11:43am

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    Deleted from YouTube The "Your Job or The Jab"

    The "Your Job or The Jab" was Deleted after I liked it. On YouTube ;-(

    No history that if viewed it just gone

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 11:46am

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    KidCool said:

    The "Your Job or The Jab" was Deleted after I liked it. On YouTube ;-(

    No history that if viewed it just gone

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 11:48am

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    KidCool said:

    The "Your Job or The Jab" was Deleted after I liked it. On YouTube ;-(

    No history that if viewed it just gone

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 11:50am

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    AN FDA APPROVED DRUG FOR COVID19 EXISTS - CANCEL ALL EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATIONS

    Since we now have a fully licensed and approved treatment for COVID19, there is NO LONGER any validity for the continuance of ANY EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATIONS... OF UNAPPROVED AND EXPERIMENTAL DRUGS... MEANT TO TREAT COVID19.

    Of course, these existing EUA drugs, and vaccines, can still be injected into people....as there simply is not enough of the FDA approved drug available.

    Now, all the Pfizer Patents for their approved drug come into play, too.

    It would be in the best interest of Pfizer to have all the other unapproved drugs and vaccines removed from the market by the FDA...until such a time as they also achieve the official FDA approval.  Why not get a 100% share of the market?

    Once the approved drug, Comirnaty, is available to the populace...all the EUAs become illegal...by their own standards.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 11:59am

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    accept no substitutes

    Here's a thought: Let's say you are mandated to take the shot.  Come back with: I will take the shot - but only the the FDA approved shot - Comirnaty.  I only trust Comirnaty - it is the only one that was approved.  All the other ones, by definition, are experimental, and unapproved.

    The FDA was very specific in only authorizing Comirnaty.  I don't know why - but they must have had a reason.  There is probably some subtle difference.  It is probably safer, or better in some way.   Why else would they go to all the trouble to make the distinction?  So if you can find me some Comirnaty, I'll take the shot.  But I'm not going to take some unapproved substance - like (say) the Pfizer or Moderna shot.  Show me the package insert - the vial with the brand name 'Comirnaty' on it - with the actual approved vaccine.  I will accept no unapproved vaccine.  I'm just following the Science!!  I'm sure you understand.  I trust the FDA.  Don't you?  They must have had a reason in only approving Comirnaty.  That's the one I want."

    Worth a try.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:02pm

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    Why do you think Comirnaty is new? Got fully vaccinated with it in Czechia moths ago ...

    Why do you think Comirnaty is new? Got fully vaccinated with it in Czechia (that's in European Union) months ago and my certificate and vaccination card says Comirnaty.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:19pm

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    gkcjrrt said:

    Comirnaty, your ticket to eternity.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:20pm

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    Disco Bear said:

    Vopica, excellent point!  Comirnaty was in use in Europe earlier this year, and according to https://www.statista.com/statistics/1244278/czechia-vaccinations-reported-by-type/ . . .

    the most popular vaccine was Comirnaty from BioNTech.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:23pm

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    The National Catholic Bioethics Center has exemption template

    You might try this.

    https://www.ncbcenter.org/ncbc-news/vaccineletter

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:31pm

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    gkcjrrt said:

    Good point:  Only Comirnity is licensed.

    It's a trick to make everyone think the Pfizer vax is licensed, the mandates can proceed and folks will acquiese and get vaxxed - that is get vaxxed with the Pfizer which is still under EUA, and where they are exempt from product liability.    They are not exempt for the licensed product.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:36pm

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    YT strike?

    Dr Martenson,

    Did YT gave you a 2nd strike?

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:43pm

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    travissidelinger said:

    I was just looking for it, and it's gone.

     

    On another note, I found these:

     
     
    Still looking for the rest of this video. 
     
    Chris, hint hint.  We need an interview iwith this Dr. Ryan Cole.  Get your production team moving 🙂
     
    -Travis

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 12:56pm

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    Is it really approved ?

    I dont know chris - maybe im being too simplistic, but when I read the first bit in the approval letter, it seems that the comernany concoction has just been added to the EUA - which is re-affirmed by the side affects sheet. ...

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:23pm

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    Comment about FDA approval might be wrong

    I think you might have your view about the strange difference between the vaccine approved and the other one wrong.  While still strange to me, looking at the FDA web site, it seems the EUA was extended to use up the circulating supply and to extend use by 12-15 age.  Providers are told they can use the two interchangeably.  I suppose the proof will be whether patients will still be asked to sign the liability waiver.

     

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:42pm

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    interesting observation

    Interesting observation Alex.  I've had a very similar experience.  About 2 weeks ago I started having a burning/tingling sensation in my tongue and lips with the accompanying sensation of those areas being slightly swollen.  Felt similar to a sunburn in the lips or a novocaine injection wearing off.  Also noted increased salivation.  Like nothing I've ever experienced before. 

    Have been racking my brains to determine possibilities with COVID being near the top of the list but didn't necessarily consider shedding from the vaccinated.  Particularly notice sensitivity to more acid foods such as those containing oxalic acid.  Improving with tweaking diet (largely by avoiding anything that seems irritating which generally means decreasing acid food intake in favor of more alkaline food, rinsing with saline last thing at night and first thing in the morning and if I get up in the middle of the night, and some oil pulling with coconut oil.  But it's not yet fully improved.  It improved midway through those two weeks but one of my 2 mile swims was in colder water where I became hypothermic which may have lowered my resistance.   

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 1:55pm

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    Pathologist Ryan Cole

    I found two more videos from Dr Ryan Cole to share:
     
     
     
    These are short and we seem to be missing the whole video.
     
    -Travis

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 2:15pm

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    Both FDA and EUA

    This article explains the FDA approval. The short answer is that Pfizers vaccine is both FDA approved AND emergency use authorized. Depending on what kind of box the vaccine comes in, determines which legal category it falls under.
    https://www.infowars.com/posts/did-fda-really-approve-the-pfizer-covid-vaccine-wait-what/

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 2:26pm

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    Ellen J said:

    I just tried sharing the vid and those who received the link discovered it had been deleted by the "all knowing, omnipotent, YouTube".  I am so irritated!  I am wondering the same thing you are.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 2:27pm

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    Ellen J said:

    Exactly!!

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 2:31pm

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    What can your viewers do to help mitigate the censorship?

    As I discover another great vid of yours deleted from YouTube, I wonder what, if anything, we can do to help mitigate the crap that social media is pulling.  I realize I'm likely asking in vain, but please let us all know what, if anything, we can do.   Thanks for all your vids.  They are so well done and much appreciated.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 3:09pm

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    Careful with claims about legality

    "the current tidal wave of vaccine mandates by employers are neither legal nor enforceable"

    In actual fact, "legal" is whatever the current government decide that is legal. That's true everywhere, at all times. Many of my friends make the mistake of thinking that because they live in something that's called "democracy" somehow it becomes less true.

    In a democracy, the decision-making process may include more checks and balances than in other forms of government, but if you see signs that checks and balances are under strain when it comes to a particular issue, it's a mistake to assume that similar checks and balances that worked for other issues will work in the same way for this one. At the end of the day, governments are actually made of people, not laws. For good and for ill, laws don't defend themselves, people defend them. And people choose which laws they will defend when.

     

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 3:39pm

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    Take a pic of the vial

    And demand they write comirnaty on the vax card

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 3:59pm

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    all of this criminal stuff would not be possible if not for the vaxxed

    None of this could be happening if people refused the vaccine.  If they could not make money or sell the "treatment",  they( the drug lords and elite) could not make their plan work.  We would be with normal medicine and normal life.  And we would be with just the alpha - and likely some variant even less by now.

    It would not be happening , none of it, if no one took their deathshots.   Let them know who is the cause of the problem. It's not the anti-vaxxer.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 4:09pm

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    Reply to Frances Savica

    Frances Savica said:

    Pfizer hasn’t been “approved.” Comirnaty, a brand name, has been approved, but there is no Comirnaty available yet.

    So if your boss mandates it, since it is now approved, just say, "sure." A week later when your boss asks to see you vaccination card you honestly state, "it is still not available." The boss says, "There are clinics open all over the place" and you reply "yes, but none of them have the vaccine that was 'approved.' They only have the unapproved vaccines."

    In that way you buy time.

    During the time you gain, put out resumes or if you intend to move to a different location, put your house up for sale or otherwise use the time to work on your next step.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 4:27pm

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    If you still need a Plan B ...

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 4:27pm

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    The other probable cause of escape variants

    I've posted this several times because too many people are not understanding that vaccination is not the only way we have been 'challenging' the virus with treatments. We have also, worldwide, been treating many people who have had a long infection, primarily those  immunocompromised, with antibody plasma. We now know that this has produced mutated virus and it's likely some have been passed on. This alone could explain the rise of the successful Alpha and Delta strains. More on this observation here: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.05.20241927v1

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 5:29pm

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    mariannorton said:

    It's not just women who had a jab, it's women who had the first wild strain of the disease.  I'm post menopausal and went to the Dr. when I started to have period cramps.  They did a scan, found nothing and never mentioned it again.  Nothing.  Go away.  This is getting so far out of hand.  We need to know what the hell they did to this virus.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 5:47pm

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    Belize

    Yes please, book me a space on the next airlift out of Canada — I’m happy to sit on the floor.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 5:49pm

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    One (1) in fifty (50).

    Common marketing fact. If one person (1) reports something, there are fifty other people (50) who would have liked to report something, but for some reason don't.

    So, if you have 30,304 English women reporting changes with their periods after taking the jab, that means there are over  1,515,200 women who also had something to report, but didn't -- for the same reasons given in this article -- because they didn't wish to be labeled as hysterical, emotional, irrational, etc.

    One means fifty.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 6:09pm

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    National Laboratories will Require the 100% Vaccine Compliance

    Just got a heads up that Los Alamos National Lab will require 100% vaccination, with medical exceptions considered on a case-by-case basis.  With one exception, the Department of Energy national labs are government-owned, but contractor-operated.  I asked about religious exemption or acknowledgment of natural immunity, but the communication did not include information about either.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 7:54pm

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    Jasper63 said:

    Congratulations on having your video removed from YouTube.

    They say "the truth hurts" looks like you definitely hit a nerve with this one.

    You're the best

    Thank you for everything you are doing

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 8:15pm

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    I also noticed

    In reference to the links annotated as : Phizer’s “FDA Approval” letter and “what an actual Approval looks like”. I did a quick search and found the fda approval letter for “Comirnaty” that looks exactly like the “what an actual fda approval letter looks like” document. So is this a new document the FDA just released and Chris didn’t mention it because it wasn’t out at the time of the video,,, or was the letter to Mrs Harkens used to show a greater disparity than there really is?

    https://www.fda.gov/media/151710/download

    apparently this is the real BLA for “Comirnaty”

     

    I still don’t trust it either way, and it’s great that Chris pointed out the specificity of the name of the vax that got approved is different (and not even available), than the one currently administered. But I just have a question about the use of those two documents and why the actual BLA wasn’t used.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 9:14pm

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    The real BLA for "Comirnaty"

    saurKrouse

    From the file you linked above:

    https://www.fda.gov/media/151710/download

    Paragraph 3 under "Licensing": The review of this product was associated with the following National Clinical Trial (NCT) numbers: NCT04368728 and NCT04380701.

    A quick Google search revealed:

    For NCT04368728, a Clinical Trial Primary Completion and Study Completion date of May 2, 2023.

    For NCT04380701, a Clinical Trial Primary Completion and Study Completion date of April, 2023.

    Plus the studies are unblinded.

    What an absolute shitshow tool the FDA is.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 9:14pm

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    800k US military troops to be force vaccinated

    according to the pentagon.   They are going to force 800k of our troops with this crap - because the FDA has fully approved the vaccine. WHAT A FUCKING CRIME.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 9:19pm

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    Fact Sheets for vaccines FDA.gov/CDC.gov removed refusal option

    Previously all vaccines' Fact Sheets included this statement:

    "If you choose not to accept the vaccination, this will not affect your standard of medical care."

    It has now been removed. Additionally the Pfizer sheet includes the "approved" not yet made vaccine.

    https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 9:50pm

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    Flavio's IVM protocol for people getting mRNA vax

    (I just posted this on another thread, then realized it was behind the pay-wall.  So I'm re-posting it here so everyone can take advantage of the protocol.)

    Dr. Flavio Cadegiani was on the FLCCC Weekly Status Webinar tonight.  He's a doctor from Columbia that Chris mentions in his comment under the Part 2 video.  During the Webinar, Flavio shared a protocol he is using to treat people getting the mRNA vax.  It consists of 3 days of Ivermectin (IVM) at 0.2 mg/kg:

    Day 1 - the day before the Vax

    Day 2 - the day of the Vax

    Day 3 - the day after the Vax.

    He said using IVM reduced symptoms caused by the vaccine within 24-48 hours.  I think he  said that IVM reduced side effects by 80-90%, but would need to verify whether I got that right.

    Initially Flavio was giving people who got the vax the ivermectin after getting the vax, to reduce symptoms.  But then he realized it might be more beneficial to start the IVM before they got the vax.

    Maybe this protocol can help some of our folks who are having to get the vax. Apologies if someone has already posted.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 10:09pm

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    Dr. Ryan Cole believes in data also

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUE5EBPt-lU                                                                                                                                                         Dr. Cole hit so many of the points Chris does, I think he is a kindred spirit.

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 10:16pm

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    Comirnaty comrades

    "Comirnaty" sounds like something out of the Soviet Union. It has a nice Slavic feel to it.

    (This comment is apropos of nothing, really.)

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  • Wed, Aug 25, 2021 - 10:33pm

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    or...Core Morbidity

    Or... awfully close to core morbidity. Hmmm

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 12:14am

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    Contact the state medical board if doctor refuses to give exemption/employer forces vaccine- may violate ADA

    If the doctor refuses a known allergic/immunocompromised person an exemption from vaccines that are still under the EUA, then contact the local medical board. Call and write asking if doctors' licensure has been threatened for writing exemptions..  If permitted in your area, record the call. Either they deny the allegation or they affirm it. If they deny it, inquire why your doctor would say that.

    Take the information to the local news channels, write editorials, contact state legislatures, contact the governor, and find an attorney.

    For those being pressured by work, here's a link to a commentary about forced vaccine cases versus the American Disabilities Act. It mentions that all health related info must remain confidential; therefore, it would seem making unvaccinated employees or students wear anything that identifies them as unvaccinated is a breach of this law.

    The ADA is not the only federal law implicated by an employee’s refusal to receive employer-required vaccinations. Employers should be aware that Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act entitles employees to reasonable accommodation of sincerely-held religious beliefs – including those that prohibit employees from being vaccinated – unless the accommodation would impose undue hardship on the employer [8]. An employee may also have claims under parallel state law [1,9]. State and federal laws also address employers’ obligations to maintain a safe workplace [6]. State immunization laws for healthcare workers [1] are also be relevant in designing and implementing a workplace vaccination policy.

    3. Recommendations

    While healthcare employers may have legitimate reasons for mandating employee vaccinations, they should give thorough consideration to federal and state employment protection legislations, as well as the objective medical risks applicable to specific employee groups, healthcare settings, and patient populations, before instituting mandatory policies.

    Cases like Hustvet and Ruggiero illustrate the need for health- care employers to take proactive steps to minimize conflicts between their mandatory vaccine policies and the requirements of the ADA. First, employers can request immunization records from all prospective employees after an offer of employment is made as a condition of beginning work, which the ADA allows [3]. Employers must maintain medical information and vaccination records collected from employees as confidential files in accor- dance with ADA requirements. Under the ADA, any employment- related documentation containing medical information must be maintained in confidential files completely separate from the general personnel file.  Second, employers can reduce the risk of ADA claims by considering reasonable accommodations, depending on the essential job functions [3] and the nature of the work these employees seek to do (e.g., healthcare workers involved in direct patient contact or in vulnerable patient settings, such as the neona- tal intensive care unit (NICU) nurses, are different from administra- tors in the back office). As part of the reasonable accommodation process, employers must engage in a good-faith ‘‘interactive pro cess” with the employee to try to reach a solution [10]. That is, both the employer and the employee bear responsibility for identifying a reasonable accommodation; an employer who fails to engage in the interactive process may be seen as acting in bad faith. That process should include efforts to adequately document of the employee’s disability and assess existing practices the employer could allow the employee to use..

    https://www.slu.edu/law/health/pdfs/pendo-vaccine-article.pdf

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 1:32am

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    Odds & Risks numbers

    Agree that words like "some" and "few" are not numbers. Over the past year I have gained a bit of experience in medical risk assessment.

    First, it turned out that I would need a pacemaker, much to my total surprise. I did a great deal of research before consenting to the operation. One finding was that complications occur in 1% to 6% of all pacemaker implantation procedures, ranging from mild and treatable to possibly life-threatening, but depending on how one defined "complication," and there's a huge list of them, the risk could range from 10% to 59%. Such a range... In the end I concluded that the procedure was mostly safe and consented to it. Yes, it was quite safe and I seem to have no ill effects. My quality of life is much improved, I've got my energy back, I can do things again.

    Second, it turned out later that I would need eye surgery. I was very nervous about this as my mother had had the same operation 50 years earlier and it didn't work. Again, I did a huge amount of research; the surgeon and I went over just every problem known to science. I found a Harvard surgeon saying that in his experience one eye in 5,000 had problems. My surgeon thought that was too optimistic and that the error rate was closer to 1 in 1,000. Oh. My choices were to do nothing and definitely go blind within a few years, or have the operations and not go blind at once or at all. Again, after a lot of research and thinking, I gave my fully informed consent. All is well now, no adverse effects, I am pleased, but only time will tell if I keep my vision.

    I am very happy with these branches of medical science, based on a huge amount of research and experience backing them up. Progress is made, too: the eye surgery involved a drug and techniques not available 50 years ago. Mum was in hospital for a week after her op; I was a day patient. Great.

    One might argue that I had accepted risks far greater than the alleged risks associated with the mRNA vaccines, but in assessing my risks I had access to a vast range of material spanning many years of research and practice, with full and frank discussions of side effects. Some websites were just plain scary in their descriptions and images of possible side effects!

    These here vaccines are simply too new, and literature on their risk profiles is nowhere near as comprehensive as for my surgeries. I get the strong feeling that much info is being withheld from us, that we may learn what the details are only after consenting to the procedure. It's all being done in a ruddy blush which does not inspire confidence.

    I wouldn't mind so much if proper discussion of the benefits and risks and alternative hypotheses were permitted, but it isn't. This alone makes me suspect another agenda. To me it reeks of Lysenkoism.

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 3:54am

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    phase 3 trials

    Chris, from what I understand - the phase 3 trials on this one were ongoing till 2023, and the reason for that was the time it takes to collect the data on medium term side effects. That data isn't here- so what have they just left that out (or do they claim to have collected the data some other way)?

    Kind Regards, Nasir

     

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 5:33am

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    Vaccine and Infertility

    Fantastic job, Chris.  I love how you  so  lovingly offer sound advice to the abc agencies on how to garner more compliance.  My break in faith came much earlier than yours.  I started out with that gentle sarcasm and honest feedback, but over time anger has blossomed.

    There is great concern about fertility issues with these vaccines.  In the Moderna trials, the rats had a 16% reduction in fertility rates and this outcome was not reported because the negative affect did not reach 25%.  The nanoparticles congregate in the ovaries and testes.  The jab creates an auto immune reaction to placental proteins.  If the jab is given in the first trimester, there is an 82% miscarriage rate!  In the second trimester, the vaccine can pass thru the placenta and enter into the blood stream of the developing fetus, and the nanoparticles congregate in the baby's brain.  Babies in the womb have no immune system.  Fetal tissue is extremely  active. Where an adult may generate billions of spike proteins, the fetus will generate trillions - with no working immune system, mind you.  Not sure if you've heard the gruesome stories of miscarried babies'  brains.

    Very informative presentation here (on fertility issues) from a group of doctors who are trying to warn the public, including Dr. Peter McCollough:   https://www.lifesitenews.com/conference-stop-the-shot/stop-the-shot-8-19/

    I was born in 1960 and gave birth to five children.  I was ALWAYS advised by my OB/GYN to never take any medicine, stop smoking, don't drink, etc.   Pregnant women were very  special people who did not take drugs.

    Fast forward 40 years and giving pregnant vaccinations has been going on for a while.  It is now customary to give pregnant women the flu shot, which is still often loaded with Thymerisol *mercury) - depending on the lot number.  Pregnant women are routinely given the DTP shot.

    I believe the root evil of soooooo many piss poor public policies is the printing press.  Without money at the touch of a button, society would be much less likely to suffer from counterproductive policies, i.e. never ending wars, surveillance state, ballooning regulatory agencies, ballooning law enforcement agencies, funding of nefarious research, and a failed medical establishment that actually creates a never ending stream of customers.

    Recently, I sat down for a couple of hours and just read personal stories of vaccine injuries.  You would not believe the number of medical interventions, procedures, tests, and prescription drugs doled out to the vaccine injured.  It is a motherlode.

    Anecdote:  I know three people who got Covid and recovered just fine.  I know two people who got the Moderna vaccine and both had blood clots in the heart within 3-5 months post vaccine.  One ended up with triple bypass surgery, the other with a pacemaker, these two are a married couple.

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 5:47am

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    At the very least 1 is 50

    That's  why I write ugly letters to the abc agencies, my representatives, and the media outlets.  Every communication counts for a lot more than just one.

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 5:52am

    Hladini

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    Clintonian Era Failed Policy Double Whammy

    During the Clinton administration, the FCC deregulated our rich and diverse media which set the stage for the present media consolidation, also during the Clinton administration, the law prohibiting direct drug marketing to the public was repealed.

    Directly  marketing drugs to the public did two things: it created a media dependent on drug advertising dollars and a nation of hypochondriacs.

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 6:02am

    Hladini

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    Pfizer says so

    This info is also in the pfizer document itself, around page 60.

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 6:17am

    Hladini

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    To Bethafoot: Pfizer warns about this

    It's actually warned against in Pfizer's own vaccine document.

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 7:24am

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    Replying to My letter to my boss, HR Director, union (#117)

    girlflower,

    I wish you good fortune and success. That is a well reasoned and factually supported  letter. It is also unerringly logical.

    I am sure you know that the mandatory vaccination and discriminatory mask / testing protocols are based upon neither facts nor logic. Had concern for the facts or logic been involved these mandates would never have survived initial, critical analysis.

    So - though I wish you well -  you need, if possible, to prepare for the rejection of your position by your employer.

    I hope that I am wrong and wish you the best.

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 8:38am

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    French humour

    All the non vaccinated emplyees may be suspended

    https://twitter.com/veritebeaute/status/1430559832193609729/photo/1

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 8:38am

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    Supreme Court proves toothless over and over again

    The unfortunate thing about the Supreme Court and relying on judicial action on anything is that it first requires a violation of your rights to take place. Then you have to fight through the system costing tens of thousands of dollars, then you have to depend on the particular sympathies of the court to see things your way.

    After all is said and done, the courts have no enforcement arm anyway. The alphabet agencies violate the constitution at every turn and then just say "oopsie" when they get csught after 20 years of domestic spying or stop and frisks or entrapment cases inciting people to criminal action. The courts are toothless and bend to political pressure all the time.

    I don't mean to deflate anyones ambitions or hopes of court ordered salvation, but if you put more than one egg in THAT basket, you're going to go hungry.

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 9:44am

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    LBL said:

    The Forest Service is talking about requiring Vaccines for all fire-fighters.

     

    WHILE the Dixie Fire is going strong, possibly setting up for an October Mega-Mega-Fire.

    And while the Caldor fire is approaching Tahoe from the Southwest.

     

    AND, while there is a staffing shortage of fire-fighters.

     

    I think the US may need to learn some Hard Lessons, before they ease their mandates.

    On Monday or Tuesday I heard from a very experienced (but not yet retired) fire-fighter.  He thinks the Caldor Fire will reach South Lake Tahoe.

     

    I said, "what about using the 2 Echo Lakes, and the Desolation Wilderness area between them, as a place to build a fire line, 5 days ahead of where the fire is now ?"

    TBD.

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 11:32am

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    The worst tyranny

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 11:48am

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    Can we create our own trial of antivax control group?

    I am wondering why we dont create a medical trial.  And enlist anyone opposed of taking the vaccine as part of a control trial.   aren't we exempt if we are in a clinical trial?

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 1:38pm

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    A unique and valuable perspective on our strategy

    Personally, I’m the type who who naturally wants to jump into the fray as soon as it starts, but this person has a valuable perspective on strategy.

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/08/26/the-winnowing/#more-247255

    In a Hobbesian struggle of all against all, the advantages of coming into the fight late after the many have worn themselves out can not be overstated.  As for myself, I’d prefer to participate in any life or death struggle right about the time my opponents can no longer offer effective resistance due to exhaustion.  After all, if everyone is in the street beating each other with hammers, then each minute that I’m out of that melee is another minute that I’m not exposed to flying hammers and that is a very good thing.  It ups my chances of survival.

    Some of you readers might be thinking that waiting out a fight is cowardly or not honorable but I disagree.  Say, for example, that you live in an arid region of the country where your water comes to you from several states away.  Were that water to vanish, regardless of the reason, you’d notice a flurry of activity that would make you pine for the days when people just beat each other with hammers.  Eventually, though, the population would drop to a level that the water resources could support but to make it that far you’d either have to be Rambo on Adderall or someone that put away 15 cases of water, some weapons and a Lifestraw.

    With that in mind, let’s take a moment to look at our current boxing match to see where we are and, possibly, where we are heading.…

     

    ….Round Six:  Vaccines.  We are now in round six of this twelve round fight.  Make no mistake, if you are an employee of any corporation that does business with the government then you will be forced to take the jab or quit your job.  If you work for government then you will be forced to take the jab or quit your job.  If you work in healthcare then you will be forced to take the jab or quit your job.  If you wish to attend University (even online) then you will have no option but to take the jab.  If you like to frequent bars and restaurants or go to concerts then you will be forced to take the jab.  Finally, those living in the mega-cities may soon discover that Blackrock owns all the  apartment buildings and being jabbed will become a requirement to live in said apartment.

    Those of us that saved and put away for a rainy day are currently sitting out round six.

    As I see it, we are at best midway through this fight.  I can also very clearly see that the people that did not have the luxury of sitting out the first six rounds are not currently swinging their hammers with very much gusto.  They are weak, exhausted, sick, broke and cowering in fear.  In round six, they allowed themselves to be injected with poison which is clotting them up day-by-day and has further weakened their immune system.  They have to internalize that the same people that stand behind the efficacy of the vaccine are also the same people that just brought about the debacle in Afghanistan.

    This is where we find ourselves now but where does the trend-line say we are going?

    Round seven will probably bring travel restrictions followed by more lock-downs.  Beyond that, it is hard to guess what will come.  We are currently seeing the largest migration in American history both at our Southern border and internally as people flee the Blue States.  Internal passports will probably become a thing as they did in the Soviet Union so that liberty minded people will be unable to flee to saner pastures.

    If you are outside of the mega-cities and its suburbs then you are prepared for this too.  Well, better prepared than the people in the mega-cities at least.

    Beyond this is just wild speculation as the fog of war is just too thick.  We could have hyperinflation, a civil war, a false flag terror event or all of the above.  We could see horrors that we can not even imagine today.  What is important, though, is the ability to wait out those horrors or to be able to jump in at a time of your choosing when your opponents are at their weakest.  Make no mistake, this IS what we’ve prepped for and the time to put those preps to use is NOW.  Do what you can to avoid becoming a victim.

    The wheat is being separated from the chaff and next comes the winnowing.  Stand strong or be carried away by the wind.

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 1:55pm

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    OSHA tells employers NOT to report employees’ vaxx injuries

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/osha-tells-employers-do-not-report-vaccine-injuries/

     

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 2:00pm

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    Thanks THC....

    ...for this post.

    Lately, I find myself looping on schemes of how to keep my little biz going if in fact we face more restrictions on business (I teach Pilates, I'm in peoples' personal space all day long, ideal conditions for """superspreader""" status and therefore likely to get closed down by relatively light biz restrictions -- no full lockdown required).  Yet this piece reminds me to keep the larger field of play in mind -- maybe it's time (or soon will be) to shut down my place (20 years of work, shuttered by government fiat!) and shift gears.

    I have the immeasurable good luck to have ended up in a late-life romance with a woman whose family just so happens to have the land, equipment and knowledge to run a small family subsistence farm spread out over a couple parcels of land.  The knowledge is a little rusty (it was 15 years ago since they were making a go of it, then got distracted into other projects [mushroom medicinal company, some real estate stuff, grandkids went away to school]) but we are dusting it off in our spare time, and identifying things we would want to purchase if we figured the supply chain was going to croak.  Which we do figure to be true.  (Today's purchase is a case of good gardening gloves and backup copies of essential gardening tools.)

    So I have the luxurious option of shuttering my biz (actually, I'd go grey, work out of a private home space, and see a very select small number of clients on the down low, keep a little fiat$ coming in) and becoming a farmer.  My maternal grandparents (Iowa farmers, who were never all that impressed by modernity) are laughing their asses off up in heaven.  Farming = "luxurious option"?  Yes, they are roaring great gales of laughter.

    So that's going to be my new frame -- we are in the middle of a long journey, and what IS is not what WILL BE.  When to let go of IS so as to take massive action in pursuit of WILL BE is where my focus will be.  Thanks for the reminder!

    May Fortune smile upon us all!

    VIVA -- Sager

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 5:14pm

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    Vox article about fluvoxamine

    https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22619137/fluvoxamine-covid-ivermectin-together-study-mcmaster

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 12:36am

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    Can't be forced to take vaccine?!

    Meryl Nass' latest. I think she knows her stuff...

    https://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2021/08/big-news-you-cannot-be-forced-to-get.html

    Direct quotes from this easy to read 8 page document are below, and I suggest you print the document out, as it will help you avoid a vaccine mandate.  Pay close attention.  I added numbers to the most interesting excerpts.

    After stating that you might receive the licensed vaccine or a vaccine under EUA in item 2, item 6 indicates that both the licensed vaccine AND the EUA vaccine are both under EUA.  (This may be the way chosen to shield the licensed vaccine from liability.) Item 5 says that while under EUA, it is your choice whether or not to receive the vaccine.

    Show this document to your college, your hospital, your boss. They cannot force you to receive either of these vaccines!

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 2:43am

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    Mandates don't work

    However more "incentives" might.   https://www.gainesville.com/story/news/2021/08/25/alachua-county-commission-approves-vaccination-incentives/5584343001/   Maybe they'll throw in a couple KrispyKremes too.  Paying people to take the jab...sick.  And for those that won't, the mandates will follow.

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 6:00am

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    It's not about health

    Great interview Chris. So far I have been unable to not overwhelm people with what I've been hearing - so in the end I get classified Unvaxx. I can't walk them through the logic.

    I'm a golfer - since the decree fell July 21 2021 you can't play golf unless you have the Pass Sanitaire. The President of the club, a friend, happily told me that they made an exception, given only by a doctor, if you have a reason to not get the vaccine. I went to see my doctor. I have had a heart attack - thrombosis - he said that the exemption concerned only people who had a reaction (bad) to a first injection. I said that blood cloots are one of the risks of taking the vaxx. The doctor gives the shots -  an informed nurse told me doctors make 25 euros per shot and 200 euros for a half days work. My doctor told me he sees 125 people at a time. I just changed doctors choosing him because he is Christian - he will come around just like Clif High has been telling us.

    Comirnaty CV19 Vax Approval is Actually Fraudulent – Chris Martenson

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 6:42am

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    this is what courage looks like - speaking put against our current tyranny

    LAFD Captain Cristian Granucci, 31 year veteran. Medical tyranny strikes Los Angeles City Fire Department.

    "this has gone from 'two weeks to flatten the curve' to 'show me your papers' ...  If things  moved that fast in the last 18 months, where will we be in the next 18 months?"




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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 8:29am

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    Great Find AndrewOregon

    From the new vaccine fact sheet AndrewOregon linked above:

    "The FDA-approved COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) and the FDA-authorized Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) have the same formulation and can be used interchangeably to provide the COVID-19 vaccination series.[1] "

    "[1] The licensed vaccine has the same formulation as the EUA-authorized vaccine and the products can be used interchangeably to provide the vaccination series without presenting any safety or effectiveness concerns. The products are legally distinct with certain differences that do not impact safety or effectiveness."

    One wonders how these products are "legally distinct" and how that might shield the pushers from liability?

    https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download

    Edit: So you walk into a Dr's office and ask for the FDA approved vaccine, the Dr. gives you a poke of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine and then proceeds to write down the batch/lot number on your vaccination record. * poof * Looks like you just volunteered to take an FDA-unapproved EUA experimental product from a legal perspective.

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 9:15am

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    girlflower said:

    Hi Mike from Jersey,

    Today I happen to come across a newspaper article with my HR Director very adamantly in celebration mood said how she agreed all employees have to get the jab. At that point, I woke up - indeed, there is NO MORE logic to this madness anymore, not even a little bit - I shd have known better!

    With this new realization, I would be changing my tactic. I am just going to fill the Religious Exemption paper up, in great descriptive details, how my belief compels me NOT to get the vaccine.

    Not the most argumentally logical solution but if it works, why not use it?

    I will be printing out Meryl Nass' piece to check my HR's response - if I get the chance :

    Also,

    https://pacificjustice.org

    Let's see where these go 🙂

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 9:21am

    Mike from Jersey

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    Replying to girlflower said: (#132)

    Good luck to you.

    We are all in this together.

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 9:31am

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    3 step process for not getting vaxxed

    Here's my simple 3 step process for avoiding genetic modification;

    1. Decide you're not getting vaxxed. This is the most important step, youve made a determined choice. Its simple and empowering. It doesnt mean there wont be consequences...it means you have decided to accept the consequences and remain steadfast.

    2. Breath a sigh of relief. OK now you can relax and breath a sigh of relief. Youve made your choice, the matter is closed. Whatever happens now is out of your hands. Let go and have faith that everything will be OK.

    3. Get on with life. Once youve made the decision, and the determination not to be vaxxed and to live with the consequences, there's not much more to say or think about. As expressed in stage 2, the matter is closed, the decision is made. Theres no need to debate, justify, or explain yourself. 

    If you continue to worry over it, continue to run every 10 minutes online to find out the latest developments/ threats/mandates/ statements, etc In a way you are still trapped by it and still being manipulated. You're just existing in the mirror image of a reality that is being created by the very system that you are opposing.

    Getting on with life means that YOU have set the topic aside, YOU have decided that the discussion is over, and YOU are now busy creating your own reality rather than existing in the one being created for you.

    Thats it. Thats my 3 step process and it represents a process that I have gone through over the course of this thing. Ultimately, though we all can get sucked into these hysteria, at some point we have to put things into perspective to remain sane. If we would 'zoom out' and look at this from a distance; Life is always throwing out threats, worries, and potential crises. If you live in that space perpetually your existence will be defined as going from one crisis to another.

    Here's a secret; 90% of the crises that you are confronted by are illusions. They are either created by other people for the purposes of manipulation, or [ more often ] they are created by your own mind. The mind is a problem solving machine, when no problems exist, it creates them. When solutions are found it creates new problems. Real trouble and suffering comes to us when we mistake the machinations of the mind for actual reality...and in the current technological age fears and illusory problems are easily picked up, passed around, magnified, and echoed across the globe. Now you're not just dealing with the illusions created within your own mind, your dealing with the illusions created by millions of minds and backed up by the energy/participation/consensus of millions of people [ also an illusion ].

    So this is why I always push for unplugging as much as possible [ not just because Im becoming a stodgy stubborn old goat...though thats probably part of it ]. When you put a screen in front of your face you are engaging in illusion, which might not be bad when pursuing entertainment and etc, but the level to which we subject ourselves to illusion in the modern world is down-right tragic. Its a global mental illness which I implore you all to disengage yourselves from as though your life depends on it [ which it quite literally DOES ].

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 9:38am

    Mike from Jersey

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    3 step process for not getting vaxxed

    As long as censorship continues, informed consent is impossible.

    Accordingly, the decision to refuse vaccination is an easy one.

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 10:06am

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    Comirnaty Brand is FDA Approved. All Other mRNA Serums Are Not FDA Approved, But Authorized.

    Same Pfizer company, same mRNA serum formula, two differently labeled serum vials (5 Dose Bottles), with two different legal processes in regards to product liability, dependent entirely upon the vial's label.

    Comirnaty is NOT covered by the EUA, as it is FDA approved.  Normal product liability applies, just like all other FDA approved drugs...except for those drugs listed in specific programs, which modifies the drug's liability.   Comirnaty, is not listed in any such program at this time.

    The Pfizer mRNA serum "vaccine" for COVID19, without the "Comirnaty" label, is covered by the EUA, and is not FDA licensed and approved.   Pfizer liability for this drug is a matter of the EUA agreement, which negates their normal product liability.

    Now, the Pfizer brand, "Comirnaty," has been used in other countries, such as Czechoslovakia, whose government provided it with an emergency use authorization.  However, the formulation of a foreign contracted mRNA serum by Pfizer, as the formula itself is undisclosed and proprietary...and not specified in the contract...can be anything Pfizer desires.  Pfizer could also modify the formulation of their serums over the  course of this contract... or its use...without disclosure it has done so.  It can also modify the doses... and allow a completely inert product to be used.

    Each Country has its own Pfizer contract...its own medical authorities...its own EUA and Approval laws.

    The U.S. FDA approval of "Comirnaty" only applies to the United States and its Territories.  The rest of the world is on its own.

    What Pfizer decides to put in its vials of mRNA serums, could be anything they wish, and its formulation could be determined by where it is shipped.

     

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 10:13am

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    Replying to Comirnaty Brand is FDA Approved. All Other mRNA Serums Are Not FDA Approved, But Authorized. (#136)

    Ision,

    You wrote:

    Same Pfizer company, same mRNA serum formula, two differently labeled serum vials (5 Dose Bottles), with two different legal processes in regards to product liability, dependent entirely upon the vial's label.

    That says it all ... doesn't it.

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 12:08pm

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    GB03 said:

    If anyone asks me if I have been vaxed, I tell them I am in the control group. If they look at me funny, I say, "didn't you get that option?"

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 12:18pm

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    GB03 said:

    If anyone asks if I have been vaxed, I tell them I am in the control group. When they look at me funny, I say "did you not get that option?"

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 2:19pm

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    natural immunity vs vaccine

    https://fortune.com/2021/08/27/covid-natural-immunity-vaccine-delta-variant-pfizer-protection/

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 3:48pm

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    joe6167 said:

    Re: Spontaneous abortions: literally EVERYONE misread that paper. Go back and read it carefully and ask yourself one question: "How many women received the vaccine in the first trimester?"

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 4:48pm

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    WHO IS MICHAEL OSTERHOLM??????????????

    parental discretion advised. i speak lots of french by way of the streets of a major us city.

    well he is a virologist. he is a scumbag and a fucking liar. i saw him on joe rogan a year ago. the following clip is indicative of the slime he is. this is a must watch.





    this clip is about vaccines and their safety. what prick.





    joe rogan is an idiot and he just laps this shit up.

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 8:49pm

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    joe6167 said:

    If anyone's interested, I did my own analysis of the two approval letters, available here:

    https://www.gunownersofcanada.ca/showthread.php/65648-Let-s-Talk-FDA-Approval-Of-The-Pfizer-Vaccine

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 8:52pm

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    Robin said:

    Kettering Health makes changes to vaccine mandate; new exemption announced – WHIO TV 7 and WHIO Radio

    It isn't in the news, but medical workers have been picketing in front of hospitals in my Florida city since our mandate was announced.  I know that people are getting nervous about firing half of the medical staff.  Could this be a small sign of hope?

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 9:20pm

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    Things are getting interesting

    last week there was a demonstration at walmart hq. i understand it was well attended. i don't know when walmart instituted the shot mandate or when it goes into effect.

    my suggestion is boycott them and send an email telling them why.

    i attended a demonstration at tyson hq today. around 150-200 people (it was 93 degrees) lots of cars honking and waving. lots of kids that are being raised right by their parents. again let tyson know you will not be buying their chicken.

    a good friend of mine told me today that his wife who is a commercial acct rep for cox cable was told she has to get the shot by oct. 12 or she will be fired. one top employee quit during the zoom meeting. as fate would have it my internet provider is cox. needless to say i will soon have another provider and i will tell them why.

    we are getting people together to have a demonstration in front of the county courthouse.

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 9:45pm

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    KARAS CLINIC

    this is another one close to my heart.

    rob kares is my primary care physician. he is listed on the flccc site. he prescribes ivermectin for covid. his clinic is divided into two sections. the front part is for regular ofc. visits and the back which has a separate entrance is in the back.

    he has a facebook page where he posts updates every week.

    facebook.com/KarasUrgentCare    (i had to type it out facebook would not let me copy and paste. hmmmm)

    he and his clinic are now in the national news thanks to one idiot justice of the peace. eva madison found out he was prescribing ivermectin to inmates at the county detention facility. (he has a contract with the county to be the detention center's dr,) his contract is due for renewal and she raised the issue at a budget meeting. of course she called it a "dewormer"

    dr. karas has treated over 4000 patients with ivermectin with only one having died. that one was very sick when he arrived at the clinic and it was too late for ivermectin. he has treated hundreds at the detention facility and only one went to the hospital. that one went because he did not take the ivermectin.

    the next quorum court meeting is next tuesday. i will be there.

    Washington County Justice of the Peace Eva Madison (D) said she heard reports of the practice Tuesday after a county employee visited a Karas Health Care coronavirus testing site at the Washington County Detention Center in Fayetteville and was prescribed ivermectin despite testing negative for the coronavirus.

    Karas is one of three health-care providers accessible to employees on the county health-care plan. It operates in the jail as Karas Correctional Health.

    “When this employee told me that, I thought, ‘Our sheriff has common sense. He’ll know what’s going on,’ ” Madison told The Washington Post on Wednesday. Madison said she has a good rapport with Washington County Sheriff Tim Helder but was dismayed when he confirmed her suspicions — and defended the practice"

    for some reason i can't post links so if anyone is interested i suggest googling "karas clinic, washington county detention center. wapo, cbs and others are covering it and the stories are about what you would expect.

    stay tuned

     

     

     

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 9:54pm

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    links for karas clinic news

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ivermeticin-arkansas-inmates-covid-19-doctor-eva-madison-fda-warnings/

    from the uk

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9927295/Arkansas-doctor-gives-animal-deworming-drug-jail-inmates-COVID-19-despite-FDA-warning.html

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/doctor-who-used-ivermectin-treat-covid-patients-inmates-under-investigation-n1277826

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/08/27/arkansas-doctor-prescribed-ivermectin-thousands-covid/5614255001/

    classic hatchet jobs. if you read one you have read them all. what is interesting is it has gone global

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  • Fri, Aug 27, 2021 - 10:58pm

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    Creating a Workplace Mandatory Vaccination Policy

    We now have a law firm specializing in assisting companies with implementing a Mandatory Vaccination Policy.

    • Needles in Arms -  Make it clear that you are not forcing needles into arms.  With all of the misinformation out there, some employees unfortunately still believe that a mandatory vaccination policy means employers will be forcing a needle into their arms. Employees still have a choice, but their choices have consequences.

    Get that last line, employees have a choice, but their choices have consequences.....WTF!

    People really need to wake up!

    https://www.fasken.com/en/knowledge/2021/08/24-creating-a-workplace-mandatory-vaccination-policy

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  • Sat, Aug 28, 2021 - 9:51am

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    Coma

    sorry goldrunner but i think it is too late to wake up.

    people are not asleep they are in a coma.

    the next step is death.

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  • Sat, Aug 28, 2021 - 11:40am

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    That's an interesting thought. If you get any further feedback please pub!

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  • Sat, Aug 28, 2021 - 11:47am

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    skywolf said:

    That study (at Oxford) is giving Ivermectin at Day 14. Unless they changed the study set-up, it is designed to show Ivermectin is useless.

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  • Sat, Aug 28, 2021 - 12:42pm

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    MY HERO ROB KARAS

    This is a tv interview with Dr. Rob Karas.

    It is clear 2 things are at work in the media. They are ill informed and stupid.  Ill informed because they just feed off of other media which get their info from the fda, who etc. They are stupid because they do not do the research.

    The other thing at work is the media national, regional, and local have a monetary interest in suppressing alternatives to not only vaxx  but continuing the narrative of the "greater authority"

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  • Sat, Aug 28, 2021 - 12:48pm

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    Apologies

    the video did not post





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  • Sat, Aug 28, 2021 - 1:05pm

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    Letter from clergy

    I heard an attorney providing legal advice on this issue who said that the clergy can write a letter attesting to the the person’s faith to support the exemption due to their sincerely held religious belief, although they are not bound by the law to say nor or state whether they agree or disagree.

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  • Sat, Aug 28, 2021 - 3:20pm

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    taz1999 said:

    There's a morbid upside to military vaccination.  (and I wish this was not the case) But, (my guess) 8000 serious reactions or so will generate news that the powers and money that be will have a hard time suppressing.

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  • Sat, Aug 28, 2021 - 9:59pm

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    Reduni said:

    I checked the FDA web-site.  Their statement reads:

    On August 23, 2021, the FDA approved the first COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty, for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age and older. The vaccine also continues to be available under emergency use authorization (EUA), including for individuals 12 through 15 years of age and for the administration of a third dose in certain immunocompromised individuals.
    From this I'm inferring that BNT162B2 and Comirnaty are the same product.  While I can't state for a fact, but it strikes me that BNT162B2 was the label used while the product was being distributed during the EUA while Comirnaty will be the product's name under the FDA approved BLA.

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  • Sun, Aug 29, 2021 - 7:47am

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    Rogue Judges

    Now I'm hearing about all kinds of judicial over-reach, wherein Judges are ordering people to take the jab or else.  Or else you can't see your kid.  Or else you can't go on probation, etc.

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  • Sun, Aug 29, 2021 - 7:55am

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    Channeling Mom

    thc, when I see this kind of crapola,  I see my Mom, with her bottom teeth bared, saying very slowly, in a female growl, "M o t h e r f - c k e r s."

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  • Sun, Aug 29, 2021 - 8:48am

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    Great Post Sager!  I am a firm believer in serendipity - for better or worse.  May your future travels be smooth and easy.  I'm in a little different boat, as I can work from home on Zoom for now.  Some judges will not permit Zoom hearings and only want in person hearings, others  say if less than 10 pages of docs/evidence, Zoom is OK, more paper?  Then in person hearing.  Our Court system was not obliged to follow the Governor's orders of opening up, a separation of powers thing, so our Courts in Florida were closed for a good long while, only fully opened up this year around June-July.  I've only had in person court (mediations) twice in the last 3 weeks for the first time in 17 months.

    If BurningPlatform man is right, I might expect expulsion from the courthouse without a jab, or Ms. -, you don't have your jab, then you can't renew your Bar license.  Maybe we don't get to keep our driver's licenses without the jab.

    Who knows how far TPTB will go.  One things for sure, when they make mistakes, they double down.

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  • Sun, Aug 29, 2021 - 8:57am

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    Mpup, thanks for sharing the link.  I've passed it along.  I was just saying, I expect more restrictions because of my un-vaccinated status.  Two attorney  friends I spoke with are both jabbed and both support mandated vaccines.  Shocking to me.

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  • Sun, Aug 29, 2021 - 9:13am

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    What is Michael Osterholm complaining about.

     

    He still has HAIR !

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  • Sun, Aug 29, 2021 - 9:14am

    Hladini

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    Captain Granucci Deserves a Commendation!

    I made a phone call to the LAFD and commended the good captain for his bravery and courage.  The department also has a pdf form to send in commendations.  I called, and now I'll mail my commendation.  Here's the pdf form:  https://www.lafd.org/sites/default/files/LAFD%20Commendation%20Form_0.pdf

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  • Sun, Aug 29, 2021 - 9:48am

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    Grassroots NYC Vaccine Mandate & Passport Protest, Sat 28 Aug 2021

    Although NYC largely takes its marching orders from the DNC and the mainstream media, and where the virtuous wear "BIDEN" and "FAUCI" tee shirts with no apparent irony or circumspection, not everyone is passively accepting the decrees for vaccine mandates and passports.

    Yesterday at Columbus Circle/59th St., up to 1000 people gathered to protest rushed and opaque "science," authoritarianism, medical tyranny, and censorship.

    This was an authentically civil "peaceful protest," to employ a term abused and distorted by the MSM when downplaying the BLM/antifa riots from the summer of 2020.

    In the time I was present, there was no counterprotest, flash-mob, or heckling condemnation of the speakers as "murderers," "Covidiots," or otherwise "bad people." There was also, unsurprisingly, no major media or TV vans. How to Make Protests Invisible 101.

    The protest was not ignored, however. A scan of the internet today turns up accounts in Yahoo Entertainment, the Daily Mail, and smaller media outlets such as Madness Hub.

    And there was also a little entrepreneurial tweaking of the old tourism-boosting PR slogan. Hang in there New York: you're not dead in mind and body just yet.

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  • Sun, Aug 29, 2021 - 10:03am

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    There was also, unsurprisingly, no major media or TV vans.

    I would say not unsurprisingly...  (Maybe that's what you meant.)  Can't let the rest of the population understand there may be an alternative view.

    Thanks for the report.

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  • Sun, Aug 29, 2021 - 10:46am

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    Politicians attacked in Milan, Italy

    Bravo for the Italians. Maybe a trend starter, who knows. They are making it unsafe for the narcissistic scumbags to walk among us freely.

    https://rumble.com/vlt6xw-exclusive-politicians-attacked-at-massive-anti-vaccine-passport-protest-in-.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=6

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  • Tue, Aug 31, 2021 - 12:35am

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    NZ woman dies after suffering rare side effect of Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/nz-woman-dies-after-suffering-rare-side-effect-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine

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  • Tue, Aug 31, 2021 - 1:19am

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    secret army of 200 anti-vaxx ex-soldiers plotting attacks on vaccine centres

    Smells like a government orchestrated false flag meant to de-legitimize protests.  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9936399/Secret-army-200-weapons-obsessed-ex-soldiers-plotting-attacks-vaccine-centres.html

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  • Tue, Aug 31, 2021 - 1:25am

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    re: NZ woman dies after suffering rare side effect of Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine

    Very downplayed in the media here in New Zealand, there was another death a few months back after vaccination and that was also mentioned once or twice and then silence. The excuses given are that they had preexisting conditions that contributed to the death and it wasn't the vaccine itself.

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  • Tue, Aug 31, 2021 - 1:38am

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    MSM is state-run propaganda

    We'd all be better off if we could get 100% of our news from citizen journalists and truly independent outlets.

    I would love to cancel all my subscriptions with MSM, But I'm afraid, if I do, I won't see what's coming. Like when you sleep with one eye open because your cellmate has a shiv.

     

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  • Tue, Aug 31, 2021 - 3:36am

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    I was thinking more about the bait and switch - FDA approval

    usually, we would not expect to see some sort of re-branding of product and have two products on the market.  But most approvals do not go to market in advance with an EUA.   The EUA product lacked adequate packaging and labeling for approval.  It would be virtual impossible to approve , and fulfill the labeling requirements with the packaging that  is currently on the market and in stocks.   So, I would like to believe it has something to do with this.

    But, it is rather convenient that the current product is protected under liability umbrella of an EUA.   with tons of stocks available and millions of shots to be given.

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  • Tue, Aug 31, 2021 - 12:17pm

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    EU Recommends Banning Unvaccinated American Tourists From Traveling to Europe

    https://www.morningbrew.com/daily/stories/2021/08/30/eu-recommends-banning-unvaccinated-american-tourists-traveling-europe

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  • Tue, Aug 31, 2021 - 1:14pm

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    Canadian governments are hitting a new low.

    Manitobans getting married after Sept. 3 will have a choice to make: ensure all your guests are vaccinated or hold the event without alcohol.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/weddings-vaccines-manitoba-1.6158813

    Canadian Government bribing provincial premiers to destroy small businesses by implementing vax passports.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-promises-1b-vaccine-passports-1.6155618

    It is getting more dysfunctional by the day up here. Help! I feel like I am in a hostage situation.

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  • Wed, Sep 01, 2021 - 2:32am

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    shox said:

    Looks like Youtube restored this video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjVFLzX6Q2s

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  • Wed, Sep 01, 2021 - 9:30am

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    AT&T Mandates Vaccine for Managers

    I have a friend that is a manager at AT&T. Due to the Pfizer approval, he says AT&T sent out a requirement to all Manager level employees at AT&T. The only exceptions are members of the Union, and any manager who has a union member as a direct report. That means he has a member of the Union on his team, and he is directly supervising this Union member.

    All Managers that do not have a Union direct report, are required to get the vaccine by Mid-October, or else they Lose Their Job.

    There is a process for applying for an exemption. There is Medical and there is Religious exemption process. My friend is going through the religious exemption process, and he is pretty sure it will be denied. Not many religious exemptions are expected to be granted. But he is trying.

    If he fails to get the exemption, he is going to have to make a decision. He really needs the job, due to his debt load and the many people he is supporting.

    He has ivermectin on hand, and knows about vitamin D, C, zinc. I informed him about pine needle tea.

    He's really in a tricky situation.

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  • Wed, Sep 01, 2021 - 9:45am

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    The companies that can go to hell gets longer

    Tinarock,

    Thanks for this bit of info. I'd say that this mandate (for ANY group of employees) puts AT&T at the front of the line for companies that can go to hell when they come begging for unvaccinated employees due to vaccine attrition.

    I have personal reasons to say they can already go to hell, but this just cements it.

    Google has a company wide, no exception, vax mandate too, so I guess AT&T falls in line behind them.

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  • Wed, Sep 01, 2021 - 9:58am

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    Robin said:

    AT+T is also mandating for union members, but they have a Jan 1 deadline.

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  • Wed, Sep 01, 2021 - 10:14am

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    small reasons for hope...

    If there remains a critical mass of people who adamantly just say no, some org's literally will not be able to sustain the losses.  I am sure this is why ATT is extending the union deadline.. these are the linesman and tech's that service the facilities... they CANNOT lose too many of these skilled people.  They are going to play a waiting game to give themselves more time to back-out of the mandate in this case.

    Here is a hospital that caved;

    https://fortune.com/2021/08/30/health-care-hospital-worker-shortage-vaccine-mandates-staff-retention/

    I had an uplifting talk with an immediate co-worker yesterday.  To put it simply, and I didn't know this until yesterday, he has a horse that he medicates himself as needed, and he has relatives who have literally disowned him for not taking the vax.  In other words.. he is one of us.  Anyway, he and I together are literally 25% of the entire technical team that keeps a $1B business going.  The induction period for even a very technically literate person to become useful in this org. is on the order to two years.  I never thought I would have so much in common with Barack Obama.. but I have to say;  I am now a community organizer.

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  • Wed, Sep 01, 2021 - 10:32am

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    mandates = a loyalty oath

    It kinda feels to me that - at least for some organizations - this has nothing to do with health.  It seems more like a loyalty test.

    "Oh.  You're an insurrectionist.  You're fired."

    There have been some really annoying whistleblowers in tech.  These will now be purged because - mandates.

    I mean, maybe?  They're applying this to the Army too.

    It is a "loyalty to the Oligarchy" oath, just under a different cover.

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  • Wed, Sep 01, 2021 - 10:56am

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    000 said:

    brilliant!!! you're at the forefront of the emergent consciousness or the re-awakening movement. The vertical realignment of Americans from left, right, liberal, conservative, public and private back to the fight for liberty and justice for ALL (not just the wealthily, old and new money) Watching what my spouse is going through the oath enforcers don't realize what they are doing because they have to abide by the rules coming down from above, but the whole thing is starting to crumble so they will likely take us to War in order to coalesce the oath with patriotism, to the oligarch/State (=fascism).

    In the interview with Dr. Malone, who has a deep experiential understanding of the system, he pressed the idea that there is immense power and tech behind the Mass-Mind control.

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  • Wed, Sep 01, 2021 - 11:07am

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    000 said:

    please don't ask us to log into the spider's web. Quote the quote. I will not log into tweezer or fakebook.

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  • Wed, Sep 01, 2021 - 11:12am

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    Hostage in Canada

    Me too, Goldrunner. I just heard from my neighbour here in Ontario  that there was a broadcast on the radio yesterday — no ref but I  imagine it was the CBC— about ivermectin, saying it’s dangerous horse deworming  paste and has now been taken off the open shelves so people can’t buy it for themselves. I said I bet they didn’t mention that humans have been taking it successfully for forty years and she said no they didn’t.

    I am getting more and more angry at all these lies and coercion and persecution. I now hope the damn vaccines prove to give ADE. All this pressure is just hardening my stance. I do not like being this way.

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  • Wed, Sep 01, 2021 - 11:29am

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    Stone Walker said:

    Crazy times.  I'm looking at leaving my job of 11 years for a municipality in Canada.  Stressful, but I do have a backup plan I'm hoping will work.

    I saw this video up, thought to myself, I better watch it, didn't for several days, then saw it was censored, and not available at all.  Then it came up again last night, watched it on youtube and thought, Chris must have won by appeal to youtube.  I forwarded to a friend whose facing a mandate, but today I tried the link I sent and it made me sign in, then said the video was "Private"  very strange things going on indeed.

    As sick as it makes me feel, I am trying to get mentally prepared for the day I may have to take this jab.  I'm trying to avoid it first though.

    Something I also noticed is that the med system is pushing these RNA jabs.  I saw several other products in different stages of trials, like Novavax, which sounds much safer, also Vaxart, who's working on a pill form, but not on the market yet.  So they're mandating and forcing these new gene jabs, looks like an obvious agenda to me.  Also seems certain area's are hit harder than others when it comes to having side effects, people turning magnetic etc.

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  • Wed, Sep 01, 2021 - 11:50am

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    glimmer of hope

    I am a college librarian with ties to a major medical center in my area and have to choose between jab or job by Oct. 8th.

    Today we got an email that the Executive Leadership Team at the college is trying to work with said medical center to request procedural changes to the new mandatory jab policy since we are an educational institution and don't have direct patient contact.

    I am not holding my breath but it does give me a bit of hope.

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  • Wed, Sep 01, 2021 - 1:27pm

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    Reminder to those in a bind!

    You don't get to unmake the jab decision, but you can sure as hell find a new job. If everything we are seeing happen comes fully to fruition there will be a massive die off in the coming months. I would stress to you that YOU WILL FIND ANOTHER JOB but you WILL NOT get another body. If the question of which way to go on this is even in your mind, you are under their control already and are making yourself expendible. No one else can make these decisions for you, but you will regret it every day of your probably much shorter life. For a job. Probably one that you wouldn't choose again if you got to do it all over again. To earn a wage that barely covers your expenses. To keep a house or apartment that is hardly the fairy tale you imagined. Its just stuff, and the jab will let you cling to it for just a few more years if you're lucky before the medical bills and health decline make that life untenable and you lose it all anyway.

    The problem I see is that most people are still clinging to the well disproven notion that things will return to the way they were. You are setting yourself up for disappountment clinging to a fantasy. There will be nothing left for you and obedience will only prolong your suffering. Give up the delusion and imagine that the worst is yet to come and no promises will be kept by those in control.

    Your society is DEAD

    Your company is DEAD

    Your neighbors are all DEAD

    Your family is DEAD

    And you are clinging to a meaningless job because it is a blanket of security.

    Cast off the ties that bind you and make moves NOW to buy yourself time or the weeping and gnashing of teeth will not console you for the choices you SHOULD have made instead.

    Give it up and accept that we are headed toward oblivion.

    Or don't, I don't care. You make your own choices but if you are here, you ARE giving your informed consent for any choice you make. You get to decide what's most important to you, your life and health, or your shitty fucking job.

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  • Wed, Sep 01, 2021 - 2:14pm

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    Buying time

    What would buying oneself time look like, in your opinion? This is a genuine enquiry.

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  • Wed, Sep 01, 2021 - 2:44pm

    Dontknownothin

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    Dontknownothin said:

    Buying time to me means preparing yourself to walk away from everything.

    Eliminate debt. Or rack it up, doesn't matter really if "they" are going to take everything from you anyway.

    Buy all the bugout equipment you can imagine on credit and have it loaded in your car for the day the eviction notice comes.

    Sell your house now while the bubble is inflated. There will be plenty of inventory later, and almost no buyers. So it makes no difference if you keep that mortgage. Even default requires people to throw you out.

    Push back on company mandates until the absolute last possible moment then take PTO. Take FMLA for your cousins daughters best friends uncle who just passed away. Terrible how grief stricken you are!

    Make them fire you. Don't hang your hopes on some miracle to save you. That's up to God. Read the intentions of those in power and expect THAT.

    If you've been paying attention to the global EVERYTHING bubble, you'll see there's really no financial safe haven either, so all your retirements, Gone. All your savings? Gone. All your assets? Burdens to drag around or to tie you down. Thing Great Depression. Think Medieval. Think refugees.

    Imagine that you will have nothing left when its all over... and you'll be happy.

    Prepare your mind for THAT. And the decision is easy.

    Not financial advice, not life advice just letting you know there is a storm coming and nothing you think will preserve you will. Taking the jab doesn't buy you time though, it just gives you a deadline.

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  • Wed, Sep 01, 2021 - 3:13pm

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    mandates = a loyalty oath

    Yeah, this idea has been broached before.  If Stalin was running things he might put out an order that everyone take a vaccine that it turns out is just saline.

    His purpose is to wait for the free thinkers to put up their hands and announce their refusal to take the vaccine "because rights" so that can send them off to Siberia without the hassle of rooting them out himself.

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  • Wed, Sep 01, 2021 - 3:51pm

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    Dontknownothin said:

    That is a pretty damn clever tactic though. Might use that one when I'm the supreme global dictator...

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  • Wed, Sep 01, 2021 - 3:56pm

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    000 said:

    I have relatives who didn't even get the saline injection option before being shipped to Siberia (where they survived and became successful, ironic). At some point the pretense will disappear and well the event unfolds. They must have some event(s) in the plan that we'll just have to wait and experience. I keep seeing a mushroom cloud somewhere.

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  • Wed, Sep 01, 2021 - 9:36pm

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    Does German Doctor Have COVID Cure?

    Breaking: Famous Doctor Develops Safe Vaccine Against COVID; Germany Prosecutes Him (Video)

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  • Thu, Sep 02, 2021 - 3:50pm

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    Vaccines And Israel

    To Chris, & anyone else

    Has any one had the time to go through the following vaccine study below in Isreal? It's not what I expected and would appreciate any feedback. Thank you.

    https://datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general

    ^^ Israel Covid-19 Dashboard. Lots of data and graphs worth the look.

    Journal Tittle: Safety of the BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine in a nationwide setting Israel. Link Address below:

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110475

    also a study review done by Dr. Mobeen Syed on Youtube.

    Vaccines Isreal Data & Vietnam Study( PrePrint)





     

     

     

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  • Thu, Sep 02, 2021 - 5:46pm

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    Frances Savica said:

    I think Comirnaty was approved for age 16 and older, but is EUA for 12-15.  But don’t quote me.  Can’t keep this sh!t straight.

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  • Fri, Sep 03, 2021 - 10:57am

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    When we all face the vax mandate?

    I recently applied for a remote position with Aetna/cvs, and they are now mandating the jab. Including those employees working from home.  An email statement states-

    As a condition of employment with CVS Health, you will be required to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 (including any booster shots if required). Full vaccination includes:

    Two doses of the Moderna or Pfizer/Comirnaty COVID-19 vaccines, or one dose of the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine.

    If you are unable to be fully vaccinated (due to disability, medical condition, pregnancy, or religious belief): If you are unable to be fully vaccinated due to disability, medical condition, pregnancy, or religious belief, you will be required to apply for a reasonable accommodation within the first 30 days of your employment in order to remain employed with CVS Health.  As a part of this process, you will be required to provide information or documentation about the reason you cannot be vaccinated.

    I doubt they will accept any exemptions, even if employees are working from home.

    What do we do when most employers start implementing the mandate? There is already a list of companies mandating this. The battle is not just healthcare and teachers, it's all of us. Today employed, tomorrow not. But the next job you apply to also has the mandate.

     

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  • Fri, Sep 03, 2021 - 11:59am

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    Self employment

    Im self employed so let me check with my HR department.... He's says I dont need to be vaxxed.

    If you are in the position to pursue self employment I would suggest that now is the time to go for it. I mentioned in a previous post how several friends of mine, and my wife, started side gigs which have grown into more.

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  • Fri, Sep 03, 2021 - 5:57pm

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    Re: Vaccine Mandates - Canadian constitutional lawyer advice:

    Posted in another thread:

    Canadian constitutional lawyer advice:

    WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT VACCINES & YOUR RIGHTS IN CANADA
    Constitutional lawyer Rocco Galati has advised that the Supreme Court of Canada has already ruled that any medical treatment, including vaccination, without the informed consent of the individual, is unconstitutional. Galati also states:
    • If your employment is already underway, it is illegal for an employer to impose a new condition not included in the employment contract.
    • If your employer terminates your employment as a result of your decision to refuse this experimental medical treatment, they could be liable for wrongful dismissal or other contract violations.
    • If you sign an employment contract whereby you agree to be vaccinated with the COVID vaccine as a condition of employment, the employer may have the legal right to dismiss you without compensation.
    • It is the view of the Constitutional Rights Centre that mandatory vaccination in all employment contexts is illegal, unconstitutional, and unenforceable.
    • If your employment, enrollment, or service is illegally terminated because of your unwillingness to accept the experimental injection you are advised to sue for wrongful dismissal or violation of contract.
    “We have to stop thinking about getting an exemption to having our constitutional rights violated. We have the constitutional right to refuse a vaccine. Those trying to coerce and mandate the vaccine are violating that common law, statutory, and constitutional right. Why seek an ‘exemption’ FROM THE VIOLATORS? Makes no sense.” – Rocco Galati, Constitutional Lawyer

    Here is a link to the list of newsletters published – for employment rights see video under ‘Your Rights to decline a Vaccine in the context of Employment ~ Re-Published.’

    https://www.constitutionalrightscentre.ca/category/newsletter/

    Also:

    Julius Reuchel – ‘An Example of Courageous Pushback for Those Facing Vaccine Mandates in the Workplace’ (submitted by a Toronto police officer in response to vaccine requirement):

    https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/08/an-example-of-courageous-pushback-for.html

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