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    • Mon, Aug 23, 2021 - 01:24pm

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      wilderabbit

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      FDA Approval

    I remember thinking last fall that when the vaccines became approved and not EUA that perhaps ivermectin stood a chance at being recognized as an early treatment (officially). I find that so laughable now. I don’t think it changes a thing for any off patent medicines.

    Also,  I wonder how closely the Moderna and J&J follow suit. Will they still be an option pending approval or just the Pfizer? I don’t want any but some people might be more comfortable with the one and done (in theory!) vs the mRNA.

    • Thu, Aug 19, 2021 - 11:12am

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      Afghanistan

    I saw that too and it made me snicker. I wanted to clap my hands like “Good answer!”

    • Tue, Aug 17, 2021 - 12:00pm

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      Vax mandates in healthcare HELP

    Hi Julia,

    I am facing the exact same thing. It was announced last Thursday and I was sad and angry. I work for a healthcare system but have zero patient contact. They are giving some religious and medical exemptions decided by committee on a case-by-case basis. I have a feeling those will be difficult to get. I’ve written a letter to the governor of our state who has stood up against mandates before (masks). There is going to be a big 2 day peaceful protest “Healthcare Workers for Medical Freedom Rally” organized by Nebraskans Against Government Overreach (nago.group) next week on Monday & Tuesday. I am hoping they back off a bit, come up with other alternatives or make the Novavax available. I don’t hold out a lot of hope legally on my own because it is 8 large medical systems combined and I’m sure they had their legal ducks in a row before announcing this. I’d be better off finding another job than blowing every asset I have trying to fight it.

    The thing I’m worried about is finding another job only to have the same thing happen over and over and be in a worse position when difficult economic times are surely going to get worse. I am still undecided and have about 7 weeks to figure it all out.

    • Sun, Aug 15, 2021 - 11:39am

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      Least Worst Vaccine Option

    If anyone has any new information on this topic or missed it the first time around, I would be very interested in thoughts. Unfortunately, Novavax is not an option (yet).

    • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 10:23am

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      Least Worst Vaccine Option

    A phase 3 clinical trial was just conducted at the large medical center in Omaha, NE. Here is what they said about Novavax:

    Novavax has created a fourth COVID-19 vaccine using moth cells and tree bark. Instead of an mRNA vaccine (Pfizer, Moderna) or a viral vector vaccine (Johnson & Johnson), Novavax is a subunit protein vaccine.

    “Diversity in vaccine production helps increase the number of patients vaccinated,” says Dr. Florescu. “Some might not accept mRNA vaccines, while others may be allergic to certain ingredients.”

    For example, some are allergic to polyethylene glycol (PEG), an ingredient in the mRNA (Pfizer and Moderna) vaccines. There’s no polyethylene glycol (PEG) in Novavax.

    How does the Novavax vaccine work?
    The Novavax COVID-19 vaccine contains a protein (made using moth cells) plus an adjuvant (made from tree bark). An adjuvant is an ingredient added to boost a person’s immune response, creating higher levels of antibodies.

    The Novavax vaccine uses a telltale piece of the coronavirus: the notorious spike protein. All alone, the spike protein is harmless and can’t cause COVID-19. When your immune system encounters the lonely spike protein, it produces antibodies against it. This gives you protection against future COVID-19 infection.

    “Unlike mRNA vaccines, the spike protein is already premade in the Novavax vaccine. It’s a shortcut,” explains Dr. Florescu. “All the synthesis happens outside the body and we just give the end product: the spike protein.”

    Like other COVID-19 vaccines, Novavax does not cause COVID-19 infection. It can’t get you sick. This vaccine doesn’t contain either live or inactivated virus.

    How did they get the spike protein?
    The Novavax method uses moth cells to make spike proteins:
    Researchers select the desired genes that create certain SARS-CoV-2 antigens (spike protein). Researchers put the genes into a baculovirus, an insect virus. The baculovirus infects moth cells and replicates inside them. These moth cells create lots of spike proteins. Researchers extract and purify the spike proteins.

    “The Novavax vaccine has no genetic material, only proteins,” says Dr. Florescu. “The vaccine technology is more traditional, and it’s very similar to a protein-based influenza vaccine.”

    Influenza vaccines have also used this moth cell factory method.

    What does the adjuvant (soapbark tree extract) do?
    Adjuvants increase the immune response to a vaccine. In this vaccine, soapbark tree extract adjuvant makes achieving immunity possible with a smaller dose of the spike protein.

    Matrix-M is the adjuvant used by Novavax. It is based on a saponin extracted from the soapbark tree (Quillaja saponaria). The soapbark extract encourages immune cells to activate, generating a more potent immune response.

    Saponins are found naturally in various plant species like beans and green peas. They’re used in agriculture, animal feeds, veterinary vaccines and human food. Saponins can boost immune responses to proteins. Using the Matrix-M adjuvant, a smaller dose of spike protein achieves the desired immune response.

    I don’t know when or where they will be available.

    • Thu, Aug 05, 2021 - 11:20pm

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      Eisenstein: Mob Morality & the Unvaxxed

    This was a great article – thanks for sharing it. I’ll be curious to read Part 4 when it comes out.

    • Tue, Aug 03, 2021 - 04:51pm

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      Adverse effect hives – Natural Remedies

    My mom got bad hives 2 weeks after taking her second jab. Her sister recommended magnesium so she tried it and it did help.

    My co-worker also got hives after taking the vax and unscented goat milk based lotion (like Beekman 1802 products) helped a bit.

    • Tue, Aug 03, 2021 - 02:11pm   (Reply to #11)

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      Vaccinated vs Unvaccinated

    New York City will require proof of vaccination for indoor dining and fitness.

    My brother-in-law is moving back to Nebraska soon. I suspect he is probably one of many who is fleeing.

    • Tue, Aug 03, 2021 - 12:58pm

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      Reply To: Vaccinated vs Unvaccinated

    Yes, the messaging has really ramped up in the past week. I’ve had to tune out a bit to the MSM and social media for my own sanity. Also, I’ve been busy with other things. My sisters are in agreement with vax passports apparently not realizing how dangerous it is to open that Pandora’s box. My co-worker just complained to me on the phone about the director of the Kid’s Club where her 18 year old son works not being vaxx’d (since she works with kids). She knows I’m not either and called this lady irresponsible and ignorant. Even the local large medical center gives misinformation in their FB page and comments. This is from last Thursday July 29, 2021:

     

     

     

     

     

    I thought natural immunity was better immunity?????

    Of course, according to them the unvaccinated are the ones prolonging the pandemic!! (eye roll) Ivermectin anyone?? That would have ended it months ago. Of course all the people discriminating and slagging off the unvaccinated are self proclaimed SJ warriors. It’s very maddening and frustrating! Feeling my blood pressure rise now just thinking about it. Just trying to get along day by day at this point.

    • Thu, Jul 22, 2021 - 04:42pm

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      Reply To: I just got served notice

    I am so sorry to hear that and surprised since it’s in South Dakota. I thought maybe the traditionally red states would hold out a little longer. I work for a large medical center to the south of you in Nebraska. Supposedly 80% of the work force has already taken the shot. In the bi-weekly employee meeting this morning via zoom, I saw people asking in the Q&A when there might be booster, if it were going to be mandated, how soon could kids get them, etc. The doctor giving the updates always has a fear mongering COVID presentation (Delta variant!!!) similar to the MSM narrative and strongly encourages vacc but never mentions other treatments or even supplements. Questions about Ivermectin in the Q&A go ignored and now people just don’t ask anymore. The hospital system already identifies people with stickers who have taken the jab so those without still need to wear masks in non-clinical areas (even as much as possible while eating in break areas, etc.). Those who don’t want to wear the sticker, don’t have to but then they have to wear a mask. I’ve never seen so much virtual signaling and carrot & stick motivation in my entire life. Why can’t be all just mind our own business and live normally?

    I am fortunate to be working in a small private college associated with this medical center. My paychecks come from the medical center but we have a lot of our own rules over here separate from them. I hope it stays that way or I will be in your shoes and I already have been thinking a lot about what I would do in the situation. I agree that you shouldn’t quit, make them fire you. At least you could collect unemployment. Also, take heart – a lot could change between now and November. It could be a scare tactic to get people take it sooner than later. Perhaps data will come out that will be too damning to be ignored/suppressed or there will be more loud voices against.

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