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    • Mon, Feb 10, 2020 - 06:38am

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      westcoastdog

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      What does this chart mean?

    Loot,

    Can you explain the significance of this chart?

    https://www.researchgate.net/figure/ACE-II-genotype-frequency-in-different-populations-countries_tbl2_5642354

    We really need a virologist to explain the science of the NcoV virus.

    In one month, if cases remain tiny in the US and Europe, it suggests strongly that Caucasians may be naturally immune, or significantly less vulnerable. BTW, my ethnicity and age places me at the top of potential victims. Fortunately, I live in California, not Asia.

    My original Google information was conservative.

    WATER IN CHINA
    Percentage of population with access to safe water: 83 percent. Between a quarter and a third of China’s population doesn’t have piped water. By one count 48 million people in China lack sufficient drinking water. The number of people facing severe drinking water shortages doubled to 5.9 million in early 2008 because of a severe winter drought.

    http://factsanddetails.com/china/cat13/sub85/item317.html

    • Sat, Feb 08, 2020 - 09:56pm

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      Good question

    If you noticed on the New Forum Topics, I posted, “Where are all the sick airline passengers?” Infected persons flew from China and sat for many hours next to people, yet there is no reported case of anyone getting infected on a flight. It has been more than two weeks since the flights left China carrying infected persons to the US and Europe, and a few fellow passengers and crew members should have gotten infected.

    Scientists believe that the virus enters through the ace II enzyme, which varies according to country. The website below indicates that Europeans generally have an incidence around 20%, while China and Japan are above 40%. I am trying to learn if persons without the ace II enzyme are immune to the Wuhan virus. If any virologist reads this, please post an answer.

    Let’s assume that persons without the enzyme, are immune to the virus, so if a European was sitting next to an infected person, he would have an approximate 80% probability of not getting sick. This may explain why no fellow passengers and crew members were not infected. Europeans would have an R0 factor of less than one, which means that it will be highly unlikely for the US and Europe to have an epidemic.

    Why is the virus so virulent in China?

    • Population density
    •  High percentage of persons with the ace II enzyme.
    •  Compared to Europe, the US, and Japan, cleanliness is more difficult. 50 million Chinese have no running water in their homes. Also, the open markets have few faucets and sinks.  The best defense against the virus is washing one’s hands often. Except in the cities, it may not be possible in much of China.

    Digressing, if the virus takes off in India, the epidemic will be much, much worse and will probably kill tens of millions. Half the population have no toilet, and 160 million have no access to clean water. Basically, most of the Indians will not be able to wash their hands often. Compounding the problem, hundreds of millions cannot isolate themselves from their neighbors.

    https://www.researchgate.net/figure/ACE-II-genotype-frequency-in-different-populations-countries_tbl2_5642354

    • Sat, Feb 08, 2020 - 01:47pm

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      Five Britons on Holiday in French Alps Contract Coronavirus

    Did the Brit contaminate other passengers on his long flight from Singapore?
    A group of Britons sharing a chalet in the Alps have been diagnosed with the coronavirus, a week before thousands of U.K. families are due to travel to France for skiing vacations during school holidays. The group of five includes four adults and a child and none of the cases are serious, French Health Minister Agnes Buzyn said on BFM TV Saturday. The cases started with another British Cases not serious, linked to Briton who arrived from Singapore Peak period for Alpine skiing holidays as school breaks start 2/8/2020

    British national who traveled to France after a three-day stay in Singapore, arriving in the Haute Savoie region on Jan. 24 for four days, the minister said. Coronavirus cases in the Alps could affect the plans of thousands of U.K. families, who visit the Alps during mid-term school holidays. The school break for the Paris region started on Friday, making the coming weeks the peak season for ski vacations. The Haute Savoie and Savoie departments, home to popular ski resorts like Chamonix and Val d’Isere, can accommodate more than 1 million tourists at a time, according to the French statistics agency Insee. The new cases were discovered among 11 people who stayed in two apartments in the same chalet in the village of Les Contamines-Montjoie, according to Buzyn and French officials. All were hospitalized, and the nine-year-old child who who was infected had visited two local schools in the region, Jean-Yves Grall, head of the local health authority said at a press conference in Annecy. Schools Closed “We are intensifying the search for people who had contact” with the infected, he said. The two schools will be temporarily closed.

    One of the British families has been living in the village since last year and their three children attend the local school, Mayor Etienne Jacquet said on BFM TV. Another family from the U.K. had come to visit. A public meeting in the town is planned to reassure local residents and tourists, he said. The British man the families were exposed to tested positive for the virus in Brighton after his return to the U.K., the Telegraph newspaper reported. He was taken to an isolation facility in Sussex and French authorities were notified, the paper said. He had attended business meetings in Singapore with 90 other foreigners, the Telegraph said, citing a French health ministry official. “We are still a long way from any kind of confinement situation,” Jacquet, the village mayor, said. “There is no real worry at this stage.” Frans Mustert of the Alpine Lodge in Les Contamines-Montjoie said he’s received phone calls from customers asking about the new infections, but so far, no cancellations.

    “People are concerned so we’re trying to reassure people and telling them to take precautions like hand-washing,” he said by phone from the village, which mostly has relatively small chaletstyle buildings, two hotels and not more than five or six restaurants, he said.

    The Brit arrived at the chalet on January 24, and departed on January 31. So, apparently, the first symptoms appeared on February 7, about 14 days after his arrival.  The first US infected persons began flying to the US about January 24, so other passengers and crew members should begin showing symptoms now.

     

     

     

    • Sat, Feb 08, 2020 - 01:02pm

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      westcoastdog

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      Five Britons on Holiday in French Alps Contract Coronavirus

    Did the Brit infect others on his long flight from Singapore?

    A group of Britons sharing a chalet in the Alps have been diagnosed with the coronavirus, a week before thousands of U.K. families are due to travel to France for skiing vacations during school holidays. The group of five includes four adults and a child and none of the cases are serious, French Health Minister Agnes Buzyn said on BFM TV Saturday. The cases started with another British Cases not serious, linked to Briton who arrived from Singapore Peak period for Alpine skiing holidays as school breaks start 2/8/2020

    British national who traveled to France after a three-day stay in Singapore, arriving in the Haute Savoie region on Jan. 24 for four days, the minister said. Coronavirus cases in the Alps could affect the plans of thousands of U.K. families, who visit the Alps during mid-term school holidays. The school break for the Paris region started on Friday, making the coming weeks the peak season for ski vacations. The Haute Savoie and Savoie departments, home to popular ski resorts like Chamonix and Val d’Isere, can accommodate more than 1 million tourists at a time, according to the French statistics agency Insee. The new cases were discovered among 11 people who stayed in two apartments in the same chalet in the village of Les Contamines-Montjoie, according to Buzyn and French officials. All were hospitalized, and the nine-year-old child who who was infected had visited two local schools in the region, Jean-Yves Grall, head of the local health authority said at a press conference in Annecy. Schools Closed “We are intensifying the search for people who had contact” with the infected, he said. The two schools will be temporarily closed.

    One of the British families has been living in the village since last year and their three children attend the local school, Mayor Etienne Jacquet said on BFM TV. Another family from the U.K. had come to visit. A public meeting in the town is planned to reassure local residents and tourists, he said. The British man the families were exposed to tested positive for the virus in Brighton after his return to the U.K., the Telegraph newspaper reported. He was taken to an isolation facility in Sussex and French authorities were notified, the paper said. He had attended business meetings in Singapore with 90 other foreigners, the Telegraph said, citing a French health ministry official. “We are still a long way from any kind of confinement situation,” Jacquet, the village mayor, said. “There is no real worry at this stage.” Frans Mustert of the Alpine Lodge in Les Contamines-Montjoie said he’s received phone calls from customers asking about the new infections, but so far, no cancellations.

     

     

     

    • Sat, Feb 08, 2020 - 07:10am

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      westcoastdog

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      Incubation period 4 days

    Japanese scientists believe the incubation period is 3.8 days, which, if true, means many more people should have symptoms.

    https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200205_01/

    • Fri, Feb 07, 2020 - 11:06pm

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      westcoastdog

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      Questions

    Did your sister-in-law stop in China? If yes, which city.
    1.  Did she stop in Japan? Where?
    2.  From which airport did she leave and to which airport did she arrive?
    3.  When did she arrive, and how long before your brother got sick?
    4.  Where does she think she acquired a virus? Does she believe she was infected on the airplane or before the flight?

    Your brother should immediately contact his local hospital and report his illness. If he has the Wuhan coronavirus, he must be quarantined.

    Thanks for your answer. If your sister-in-law became infected on a flight, this should be reported so the airline can check other passengers.

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