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    • Fri, Dec 03, 2021 - 06:38pm

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      Reply To: Should I Stay or Should I Go?

    I have property in cowlitz county WA.. the county couldn’t meet budget so they raised property taxes 3 years ago precovid.. I had a unbuildable lot of little value… then in 1 year raised my taxes  30 times higher!  thats 3,000% increase in 1 year.. now granted taxes were really low before but I now I pay the same tax on a unbuildable scrap lot  in washington that I would for a manufacturer home on its own lot in Sedona Arizona.. in Portland my house taxes went up 20% this year alone.. so yeah  most people think they will kick in your door.. Nope… just make its so expensive you can’t comply and take everything you have.. doubt it note  the new $700,000 OSHA fines  anyone for mandates?

    • Fri, Dec 03, 2021 - 05:34pm

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      Worst case scenario for rural homestead security

    I think the point he is trying to make is rather than a homestead way out remote wiht a few friends.. history  has shown in collapses have proved its better  to find a small town in a farming community like the fiction town “Jerico” Kansas on the TV series “Jerico” on Netflix.. “good fictional what if series about the collapse of the US  after a nuclear terrorist attack and an oppressive new government that forms/bandits/military raiders etc..”. people that survived in the  Argentina collapse in 2001 also say living remote means no one can hear you scream and it didn’t turn out well there for those folks..  having a string of neighbors each on a couple acres surrounding a small town turned out better for them historically.. they can be self sustaining but still cooperate and band together My wife is Russian and being a little girl in soviet times  also points out being very remote didn’t work out well there either but being near a  town did…. google “estacada oregon wildfires looting”.. that town and community made global news several time with their response to BLM and looters  “somehow negatively “when the town blocked the  only bridge in with  trucks and arms and only let locals into town during the wildfire when  looting was wide spread last year.. and hung up signs “you looty we shooty”  . I think he point is its better to be near a  couple thousand like minded  small town people working together than a dozen or so survivalists in the middle of now where..  being so remote no one can find you  also means you are probably in a not so good farming area and are not on private property and there is no road there.. not sure how you are going to set up a realistic homestead there helicopter everything into the middle of a national forest…. anywhere else especially private property   has some road and some people and someone who knows about you… you might not be the 1st target  but sooner or later someone local is going to get desperate and form a gang and come…  I’m not saying one is better than the other… just to be aware of the -/+ and history does have some credibility..

    • Fri, Dec 03, 2021 - 04:48pm

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      Hunker down vs. relocating to more Liberty-friendly places

    I’m in Portland Oregon… despite portland’s new reputation of a mad max movie “sadly its true” the most of the rest of Oregon is similar to Idaho which is why 80% of the state was trying leave to join Idaho..  the climate  here only has 2 weeks of freezing 2 weeks of super hot  and resources here “water/trees/ valley soil are extremely  plentiful and very self sustainable , population outside of Portland is scant and mostly forest on the west and  1000’s of square mils of farming and ranch on the east. My initial thought was to do just that and hunker down and to move  100 miles out in the country away from the insanity into  the like minded people with a area and culture I know well.  We even made a full price offer on a farm and  get beat out by a higher cash offer…But the Blue voted in  by Portland  are  just going to get worse and worse and impact the entire state…  honestly at this point I think the playbook around the world is all the same, they are just on different timelines .. so if they are locking down and mandating vaccines in Austria and Germany and filling up “health relocation camps”  with “high risk  people “in Australia.. I don’t think its a matter of IF but a matter WHEN it comes to the blue states… through some emergency illegal BS.. . Also my assets here are still worth something at the moment,  I can cash out  the house on the hill now and downsize to something small and have extra left over and not have to work for awhile, assuming I pick the right assets to hold value “gold etc”..My concern is  if I wait and try and ride it out.. how long will i still be able to leave of my own free will? how long until some economic collapse makes my home more worthless than the loan? how long before some health official knocks on my door because im not in the database?  Already, I’ll be UNEMPLOYABLE here in my field with a 20+ career after the new year..  If I find some other work without a QR code and thats a big IF… I’ll be looking at a 50% pay cut from today in a new career best case. So staying in blue state doesn’t seem sustainable or a good risk call at least for me.. if the government is going continue to go after its citizens “parents at school boards”…  remember you only have assets and resources if they ALLOW it.. do you think they will allow you to not comply forever?… I almost lost my mini farm because I patched the barn roof without the county permission and that was 3 years ago “$1,000 fine per DAY” I can’t imagine today.. oh yes I can ..$700,000 OSHA fines for each violation of a mandate… do you think that is the last one they come up with? I own a lot in Washington state , because the county couldn’t meet their budget, overnight the county reassessed my taxes on that lot and increased them  to 30 times “yes thats thirty times 30”  from the tax rate the year before “no way to argue”. Coming soon to the blue I expect  new Crazy Climate fines if your insulation is too old, or you drive too many miles this month and exponential real estate tax a increases coming soon. ” in portland our taxes went up 3k this year to pay for universal government preschool…..remember you will own NOTHING and be happy by 203o.. I think  I read some country in europe? just introduced some ridiculous climate tax on live stock… ,  unconfirmed but I heard similar embedded in the new build back back bill .. $6500 per head of cattle or something?  From my view long term the trend  doesn’t look good for hiding in the blue.. Initially, I was looking at Texas, or maybe Tennessee.. but across the board Florida and their Governor just keep getting it right over and over..  when I lose my job Jan 4th.. I’ve had the talk with my wife and made the hard call to be  liquidating the house and other land i have and moving to Florida.. Cashing out a much smaller home with some land for a mini homestead with a well septic solar and large garden and setting myself up there.. in theory ill only have to worry about taxes/phone/internet at least I can still work and will be surrounded by like minded people.. environment is survivable year round without power ” although I’d miss AC pretty bad i bet”.. I’ll be able to hunker down in Florida longer and if things there do go mad max like in portland.. at least 51% or more of my neighbors will be on the same side… instead of  the 20% here.

    • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 07:16pm

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      Should I Stay or Should I Go?

    I’m at the same crossroads …been in the oregon all my life love it, … for me it comes down to even though i have a lot here “land/family/friends”, How quickly could  it be taken away from me? the question was answered 2 weeks ago, now I’m likely losing my job Jan 4th after a 21 year career due to my medical choice and will likely be  unemployable here for most new jobs here after that.. then what? what will that take next? how long can i hold out? .. There are a few states left where I won’t have that issue at least so far…. so I if lose my job in a few weeks, I selling off everything and I’m leaving to Florida.  Is it scary? yeah, will I have a major life change yeah…live in a smaller place yeah ,  have a lower paying job career  yeah … but ….. Its likely only going to get worse… and just think if it doesn’t get worse and get better you can always move back to Hawaii…sure you spent some money and may not get you old place back but hey it it goes back to the old Haaii you can go home again.. but if it does get worse  you may no be able to leave…ever…… Think not? look at Austria  or Australia today..  its the same program  just further along in the timeline..  Its  personal choice  but you asked for perspectives…

    • Thu, Nov 04, 2021 - 02:37am

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      School discriminating against unvax students: Give me more ideas/leverage/ammo!

    By all means fight, bring in info, recruit other parents etc.. They were going to do this in Portland  shaming the unvaxed  in corners and isolation and distancing the vaxxed until there was push back on the whole 6 ft distancing thing for vaxed  so they temporally dropped  that plan, but now 2 months later they are considering vaccine mandates here in schools, and having nurses visit in school giving kids shots in class..  in fact here in Portland one school is even offering the high school kids 15 and up a$100 loaded debit cards to get the shot in schools without parental consent or communication it was happening, ” an email was found from the school to the kids phone telling them not to tell their parents and come get the shot and was seen by a parent and leaked onto local forums and getting zero main stream media coverage”.. Reality is without an overwhelming parent revolt no amount of facts will matter…they are going to do it anyway.. they only respond to fear and then they call the FBI on the parents…I don’t want to say you are wasting your time, but this isn’t about facts the law or health.. Rather then risk the similar  social abuse we made the hard choice in August to pull our daughter out  and homeschool her and barely got her out and into one ” they’ re slammed now home up by 18%”…plus I didn’t trust the whole direction it was going. I feared surprise in school shots would be next ” like they did to my wife when she was a kid in Russia, and here they are starting today… so far they can’t legally give a shot to 14 years or younger without parent consent.. only 15+ but give them time to get creative they will figure out a way “emergency community benefit clause or some BS….. really do you trust these people anymore with your child?  Seriously, I’d  at least look into what it would take to homeschool your kid where there is an environment you control 24/7 and think hard on it while you still can… I’m not going to sugar coat it, I spend 2-4 hours a day “Teaching” my own kid junior high “relearning math and english i forgot” on top of my 9-5  job.. and it sucks… But what is the alternative? your baby coming home with $100 debit card and an experimental gene therapy with potential  known side effects? its already happening here ………….yeah portland is nuts now, but it doesn’t mean it won’t happen wherever you are,  it just means the crazy comes here 1st and then you are next.. this crap is global, no where is “safe”

    • Tue, Oct 12, 2021 - 04:03pm

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      FRONTSIGHT FIREARMS TRAINING NOVEMBER 2021

    registrations said 700 rounds needed.. and that of either 9mm or 40 or something else i forgot 45/38?.. check your local prices for 700 rounds of your choice  and they say its competitive pricing.. so I’m guessing depending on what competitive is,  times that  local your  $ cost for 700 rounds  by 80%-120%.. and you’ll likely get an idea of  $ range..

    • Mon, Oct 11, 2021 - 08:04pm

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      California mandates electric powered generators…

    My buddy is a contractor, they have to use generators on sites BEFORE the power is in..  obviously this isn’t going to work.. California  likely respond to this that you have to use a SOLAR powered generator with battery banks… might be ok for a day at home, but never at a job site or for more than a day… Might be a business opportunity  for someone out in California… stack a bunch of 12volt deep cycles on a trailer with a big DC/AC convertor. Charge it up  and then RENT it back to California’s road crew for a ridiculous amount “10X a generator” since thats all they can use

    • Mon, Sep 27, 2021 - 12:48am

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      Why would medical professionals not refuse the vaccine?

    Been looking into this myself… couple reasons 1. they believe in it 2. system  is set up so there is always an independent observer during jabs.. harder to have 2 friends to orchestrate looking the other way..  some personal examples…

    1. have a retired nurse friend… believes in the system  got the vaccine right away.. volunteers for free at events “reactivated from hospital” to help give out vaccines… nicest lady ever, believes vaccines are good and she is helping people.

    2. Friend of a friend nurse  refusing jab, going to lose job this month.. can get to cards but no access to database…card wont save her job needs database and she has no friends there she trusts .

    3. Friend of a friend nurse one of largest us hospitals..  same story about no database access..  trying for religious exemption  hasn’t heard back . when i inquired about their jab process says at least 2 staff  have to be in room during all jabs..  you would have to have have both on board not just have your friend do it, or bribe some stranger in front of another stranger

    4. Went to small community cultural event<50 people.. that had  free  jabs tent to see process… for such a small event the hospital had 6 nurses there in tent… you would have to have all 6 look the other way.

    5. Friends wife is a nurse  even admits during 99.5% unvaccinated  hospital has 40% vaccinated.. in ICU…however knowing this  both my friend and his nurse wife got the jab to  visit his elderly mother

    • Sat, Sep 11, 2021 - 03:41am

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      OR Prop 13- Eat meat only if the animal dies of natural causes

    I think that is exactly the point by design,  they are not forcing you to not eat meat…its still 100% your choice.  You just can’t endanger other beings and kill and eat edible/safe meat “or sexually molest them by pulling on their tits for milk or touch their unborn eggs for breakfast…… .. just like saying its still your choice to get vaccinated or not.. you just can’t endanger anyone by going anywhere, work or earn a living. buy food etc.. its 100% your choice  There is no coercion here they are just protecting others from you and you from yourself.

    BTW I know is an OR prop but Oregon is huge farming cow/dairy poultry country like 85% of the whole populated state “minus the forests” and the 1 major city.. rest assured this wacko prop didn’t come from regular OR citizens.. its special interest funded from somewhere outside the state. Sure some local some activists from Portland/Eugene have likely hopped on board..  But this is the equivalent of Texas proposing a law to illegalize oil and steak and guns… I doubt many citizens would help author that bill in Texas. Will it pass at this point? who knows sanity left OR at least a couple years ago.. but we used to say that can happen in liberal California but not Oregon, heck in the 80’s  the state even paid for a sign on the border to tell California’s welcome to visit but don’t stay and make sure and go home.  Now with these anti meat laws coming  in Oregon, California, and Colorado..  rest assured eventually something similar it will be coming to a theater near you as its not internally driven desire by the general population.

    • Sat, Sep 11, 2021 - 02:10am

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      OR Prop 13- Eat meat only if the animal dies of natural causes

    Yeah saw this a couple months back, supposedly something similar going on in Colorado, also new one in California  about pigs and pasture space ensuring only 6% of pigs raised in the US qualify under the new statute..” no Bacon for you”  aligns with World economic forum 2030 vision you won’t eat meat.. if you read it carefully it states you cant touch sexual organs ” so no milking either,  or eggs…While I loved my weekend at Poly Farms I wondered if Chris’s vision  of a self sustaining community would be allowed to exist in the future..  🙁 .. I know the argument of animal cruelty and global warming due to cow farts are being presented as the reason….. But here is another potential alternative… when I was a teen our church had a visitor come give a lecture on cults and bring their daughter who fell into one.. and they had get a court order/specialist to kidnap her out and deprogram her.  One thing that stuck in my memory after all these years is one the main things cults do besides prey on your insecurities is immediately and permanently eliminate protein from your diet.. Maybe a doc or nutritionist here can confirm  but they stated the reason is  protein is critical for your brain to do critical thinking and make rational decisions… once your brain is starved for protein  you are highly suggestable, cults know this and use it as a manipulation tool… sure you can get protein from other sources but the volume you have to consume is exponentially greater than meat “if I’m right broccoli and nuts might be next?.. seems like a highly suggestable global population would benefit those in power? Some one more knowledgeable than me can confirm or correct that theory?

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