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    • Thu, Jun 17, 2021 - 02:14pm   (Reply to #25)

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      Re: Does anybody here read Ron Unz?

    Yes, I’ve been reading Ron Unz’s site for more than a decade.  It’s a mixed bag but it’s mostly good.

    • Fri, Jun 11, 2021 - 03:45pm   (Reply to #21)

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      Ignoring suspected or imagined paid trolls

    As someone who briefly posted here a few times several years ago, and was immediately accused of being a Russian troll, I would like that.

    • Fri, Jun 11, 2021 - 11:10am

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      This Vanity Fair article came out of permanent Washington

    I may be more productive to discuss this Vanity Fair article itself.  It’s a collection of public admissions published with the assistance of a large slice of permanent Washington.  Trump is gone but permanent Washington abides.  So does the Covid pandemic.  Now we get to watch them as they craft the official narrative about it.

    An optimist would say this article (and similar ones in the WaPo and WSJ) is part of some sort of Beltway glasnost.  A pessimist would say it’s part of a “limited hangout”.  There are enough people and institution implicated in this Covid mess for both to be true.

    Edit:

    I just saw this at the Washington Post:

    The media called the ‘lab leak’ story a ‘conspiracy theory.’ Now it’s prompted corrections — and serious new reporting.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/the-media-called-the-lab-leak-story-a-conspiracy-theory-now-its-prompted-corrections–and-serious-new-reporting/2021/06/10/c93972e6-c7b2-11eb-a11b-6c6191ccd599_story.html

    • Fri, Jun 11, 2021 - 10:04am   (Reply to #15)

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      GBI = Georgia Bureau of Investigations?

    – Who is the “GBI”, the Georgia Bureau of Investigations?

    – I agree with most of your other points on the topic of real and imagined paid trolls.

    • Fri, Jun 11, 2021 - 08:14am   (Reply to #13)

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      Dealing with a “known unknown”

    Whether or not another online stranger is a paid foreign agent should be treated as a “known unknown”.  As Don Rumsfeld said:

    Reports that say that something hasn’t happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don’t know we don’t know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones.

    Whether you, I or anyone else are paid foreign agents is a “known unknown” that we all have to learn to live with.  Why not argue the other person’s point rather than chase shadows?

    • Fri, Jun 11, 2021 - 07:42am   (Reply to #8)

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      Re: Hunting Chinese and Russian “bots”

    Accusing other people of being Chinese or Russian paid “bots” (or trolls or whatever) is just a way of excluding unwanted ideas or assertions.  It’s fun and easy to do because it’s unfalsifiable.

    • Fri, Jun 11, 2021 - 07:28am

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      Reply To: Vanity Fair on The Lab-Leak Theory

    Chuck Todd’s mention of the Russian vaccine might be the first time I’ve ever heard a “respectable” journalist speak well of it and it’s one of the few times I’ve heard it mentioned at all.  They very rarely acknowledge even the existence of Sputnik V or the other Russian vaccines.  Todd breaks the rule only to claim the Russian public doesn’t use it because they distrust their government.  The media and think-tankers never stops being petty little team players.

    • Thu, Jun 10, 2021 - 04:51am   (Reply to #2)

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      Vanity Fair on The Lab-Leak Theory

    – I personally don’t find the phrase “we’re in a live exercise” especially sinister.  He’s saying something like “this is not a drill” or “we’re figuring this out as we deal with it”.

    – I hadn’t heard of the August 2019 Crimson Contagion event.  Thanks for that.

    – For me, the Vanity Fair piece is interesting as a summary of new (to me) information and as an indicator of what the official narrative may turn out to be.  It describes a massive failure by our technocratic class and I don’t know how they’ll handle that going forward.

     

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