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The Koch’s postulates are paraphrased here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch’s_postulates
For SARS, research like this exists: “Koch’s postulates fulfilled for SARS virus”, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7095368/ (published in Nature in 2003).
And this: “The aetiology of SARS: Koch’s postulates fulfilled”, https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rstb.2004.1489 (published by Royal Society in 2004).
As far as I can tell, this research from 2003 and 2004 is unquestioned. To my knowledge, no equivalent research exists for SARS-CoV-2, maybe except this paper: “The pathogenicity of SARS-CoV-2 in hACE2 transgenic mice”, https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2312-y (published in Nature, May 2020). This paper is a weak claim, and that’s where the dispute starts.
Is it even a valid challenge to apply Rober Koch’s postulates published and refined between 1884 and 1890 to current science? Some current scientists disagree, e.g. Siouxsie Wiles, https://www.auckland.ac.nz/en/news/2020/11/16/kochs-postulates-covid-and-misinformation-rabbit-holes.html.
If you still want Koch’s postulates to be applied to SARS-CoV-2, the question is if SARS-CoV-2 has ever been properly isolated in the strict sense of Koch’s postulates. Some people have croudfunded a challenge to
[…] present any text passages from publications that scientifically prove the process of isolation of SARS-CoV-2 and its genetic substance. If no publication can be presented, control experiments and the crucial alignment have to be carried out […]
Currently, there are 225.000 Euros (about $272,470 USD) in this ‘Isolate Truth Fund’ as shown here: https://www.samueleckert.net/isolat-truth-fund/
So far, nobody has claimed this awarded almost quarter million Euros, so it seems to be impossible to sctrictly meet the requirements from Koch’s postulates (assuming that 225.000 Euros are a financial incentive for a virologist).
It appears to be similar to Chris’ ‘stick horse’ about the origin of the furin cleavage site. No other Coronavirus has it, how did it get into SARS-CoV-2?
At the end of the day, both questions are academical as they depend on numerous assumptions and constraints. The furin cleavange site coud have naturally mutated into SARS-CoV-2, even if it is not probable. But probable is not the same as impossible. As a scientist, you are free to make a judgement call or an educated guess based on what you believe.
Regarding the isolate, most scientists say that it is technically not possible to fabricate it, but they believe that possible approximations are sufficiently good to make a claim that the isolate could exist. Quoted from memory, virologist Christian Drosten said that a quest for the true isolate would be similarily childish as a hobby pianist criticizing the use of black keys during a performance of a concert pianist.
On the other hand, people like Christian Drosten might not even have filed a proper dissertation (there is an ongoing lawsuit about this) and are still making untenable claims about the applicability of the PCR test for diagnostic puposes (which is the foundation for everything from case numbers to lockdowns). So it boils down to what appears plausible to your own judgement.
Everybody has to make up their own mind. Here are some starting points.
In a video from end of January, a CNA (Certified Nursing Assistant) reports the shortly after administering the Pfizer experimental mRNA injections, 14 died within two weeks, and he reports that many others are near death. The video is on Bitchute (www bitchute com/video/cpQ7dnqu0Sos/), and there is a story on Health Impact News: https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/cna-nursing-home-whistleblower-seniors-are-dying-like-flies-after-covid-injections-speak-out/
In Germany, the ‘Corona Committee Foundation’, an association of lawyers, investigates similar incidents. Last Friday they interviewed a whistleblower from a nursing home in Berlin. According to the report, from 31 residents 8 died within days after receiving the first injection. The lawyers filed a criminal offense with the public prosecutor. A written report and a video of the interview is available on 2020news: https://2020news.de/whistleblower-aus-berliner-altenheim-das-schreckliche-sterben-nach-der-impfung/ (in German).
On the new video platform ‘brandnewtube.com’, controversial Dr Vernon Coleman posted an unusually emotional video titled: “Doctors and Nurses Giving the Covid-19 Vaccine Will Be Tried as War Criminals”, https://brandnewtube.com/v/fRdX4T . He reads an seemingly endless list of reports of deaths after Covid vaccinations which he argues to have been caused by the injection. here is an exhaustive list with his sources: “How many people are the vaccines killing?”, http://www.vernoncoleman.com/vaccineskilling9.htm
Fore more background to understand what is going on, some videos with molecular biologist and immunologist Prof. Dolores Cahill give some more insight, e.g. in this interview with Martin Byrne: www bitchute com/video/YzNop1Rtqj6T/
When a CNA says that “people are dying like flies” and a British MD talks about genocide and an Italian judge writes a book claiming that the vaccination intentionally causes diseases, I guess it is time for some contemplation before making decisions that can not be undone.
@garystamper: The current mRNA-based products like BNT162b2/Tozinameran do not alter everybodys DNA after injection, and the vaccinated won’t grow a 2nd head. Trying to ‘debunk’ such nonsense claims is a fog candle and misses (imho intentionally) the point.
The actual problem is that in a small group – less than 1% of those who received injections – a spillover occurs, making these (relatively few) people technically a GMO. At the moment nobody knows what this genetic spillover causes in the long run as such studies about possible long-term are performed in vivo. It has been hypothesized that this spillover might mess with the human immunse system and cause autoimmune diseases. Everybody needs to decide for him/herself if he/she wants to be the lab rat with 1:100 or maybe 1:1000 odds.
Another mRNA issue has been raised by Prof. Dolores Cahill during consultation at the Corona Foundation Committee by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich et al., keyword cytokine storms. The session with Prof. Cahill starts about 22 minutes into the live stream: https://youtu.be/GyOrXnx5lUQ?t=1318
Prof. Cahill emphatically asks to collect more data, especially for autopsies, validating death certificaes, and sequencing the commercial mRNA products by Pfizer/Biontech and Moderna. The latter might be a challenge as, at least in Europe, vaccinations occur in dedicated vaccination centers which are sealed off by security guards and the military.
Did anyone follow-up on the issue about sequencing what’s in BNT162b2 or mRNA-1273?
Don’t bother to look on Youtube, it has been meticulously cleaned out. 14.5 million videos were reported to have been deleted within the past three months. Not much left except insultingly stupid propaganda.
Regarding BNT162b2 aka Tozinameran aka Comirnaty, the charming side-note is that it was developed by German company Biontech. Pfizer primarily manufactures and distributes the vaccine. Not sure if they disclose that in Israel. Do Isralies still remember Zyklon B and who developed and who applied it?
Anyway, here is a recent report: “Covid-19 deaths per capita increased 5-fold in Israel following mass vaccination”: www bitchute com/video/myRKgar003OY/ [you need to correct the URL as this site’s software discards posts with hyperlinks to Bitchute]
If you are trying to validate these claims (you should, never trust a single source), here are some pointers how to read official statistics.
- In Germany, people die “from or with” Covid-19. It is not distinguished if someone died from the virus or another disease, e.g. pre-existing lung cancer. If there was a PCR test with a positive result, it will be counted as Covid-19 death.
- Over here, PCR tests are usually run with a cycle threshold of 40-45 in Germany. Most scientists believe that ct values above 30-35 give bogus results (false positives). Without stating the ct value, a PCR test is highly unreliable. Even the WHO has pointed out that recently.
- For the diagnosis “Covid-19 positive”, German health insurance awards a €100 bonus. This is a obvious incentive to diagnose a cough or a fever as Covid-19, if the clinical presentation looks as if it could be Covid-19.
- Also, we have a ban on autopsys if the person could have been infected with Covid-19. That means that in almost 100% of cases even post-mortem no distinction is possible if the person died from or with Covid-19.
Ther is a lot more to consider when trying to decode official statistics as you might need to untagle a complex veil to obfuscate what is really going on.
Last but not least, here is an interesting interview with Israli lawyer Tamir Turgal and Dr. Reiner Fuellmich about the vaccination in Israel: www bitchute com/video/a4kMgOfhCzWY/
Excellent suggestion. Dr. Fuellmich is fluent in English.
Youtube channel: https://www.fuellmich.com/urteile/youtube-kanal-dr-fuellmich/
This video is mostly in English. It is a conversation with Israeli lawyer Tamir Turgal, recorded in Berlin, Germany, on January 21st, 2021:
The World Hoax Organization has modified their definition of herd immunity again. As of December 31st, 2020, it reads:
‘Herd immunity’, also known as ‘population immunity’, is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. WHO supports achieving ‘herd immunity’ through vaccination, not by allowing a disease to spread through any segment of the population, as this would result in unnecessary cases and deaths. Herd immunity against COVID-19 should be achieved by protecting people through vaccination, not by exposing them to the pathogen that causes the disease. […]
Sorry, but I have to strongly disagree. The WHO knows very well what they are doing, actually they have planned their response in great detail, and they stuck with the script almost to the letter (e.g. 5C Health Emergency Simulation Exercise, 2017; check out the training videos from the G20 meeting, they are still on Youtube).
And there actually are numerous indicators that the current ‘small’ pandemic is just another planning exercise, just this time in vivo and taking the theory from ‘Lock Step’ et al. one step further. Especially take a look at the design of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, it seems clearly to be some kind of testbed virus so that social cohesion is impaired but not destroyed (e.g., an Ebola-like pandemic would have a much more radical impact).
Also, please keep in mind that the previous planning execises ended with some 64 million deaths. After one year, the current pandemic is still a little short of 2 million deaths (by or with COVID-19). Even with shakedowns of hospitals in South Africa for the posession of the ‘illegal’ drug Ivermectin they will have a hard time to accomplish this number within a reasonable timeframe. So yes, something else is imho coming, we just don’t know yet when.
For more details on the previous planning exercises, please see this summaray: https://www.peakprosperity.com/forum-topic/pandemic-planning-exercises-2001-2019-dark-winter-lock-step-event-201/
And regarding mass media, I agree with your restraint. However, if you take a look at Noam Chomsky’s work on ‘manufacturing consent’, his method was always to digest tons of mainstream media reports and extract little pieces of information, then analyzing connections and putting the pieces together. Current mass media are unlikely to tell the full story, that is probably right. But accidentally, sometimes crucial details slip through – or are planted intentionally, to test the response. These pointers can be valuable and I think it’d be ignorant to completely ignore mainstream media.
In that sense I’d rather take the ‘Guardian’ article pretty serious, especially since it explicitely mentions two key commponents of the ongoing agenda, the horryfying public-private partnerships, and seemingly nonsense mass vaccinations.
Addendum about the MARS scenario from the 5C Health Emergency Simulation Exercise (2017)
- Date: 19 and 20 May 2017, Berlin
- Organization/sponsoring: Federal Ministry of Health, Germany; Deutsche Gesellschaft für Internationale Zusammenarbeit (GIZ) GmbH; Robert Koch Institute (RKI); World Health Organization (WHO), World Bank
- Participants: G20 health ministers
- Ressources: G20 Emergency Simulation Exercise
The 5C Health Emergency Simulation Exercise is a tabletop exercise. A ‘tabletop exercise’ (TTX) is an exercise that uses a progressive simulated scenario, together with series of scripted injects, to make participants consider the impact of a potential health emergency on existing plans, procedures and capacities. A TTX simulates an emergency situation in an informal, stress-free environment (WHO Exercise Manual, 2017). The name ‘5C Health Emergency Simulation Exercise’ refers to the five C-topics around which the exercise revolves: communication, collaboration, contributions, coordination and compliance.
The 5C Health Emergency Simulation Exercise is based on a fictitious scenario of an unfolding epidemic […] called MARS (MARS = Mountain Associated Respiratory Syndrome).
Fact sheet on the Mountain Associated Respiratory Syndrome (MARS) virus as outlined in the 5C Health Emergency Simulation Exercise Package (the following bullet list is a direct quote):
- Transmission: The virus is transmitted person-to-person via droplets or contaminated surfaces. Those infected develop symptoms approximately four days (with a range of two to ten days) after initial exposure.
- Clinical course: Symptoms include shortness of breath, fever and a dry cough. Approximately 20% to 30% of patients require intensive care and 14% depend on mechanical ventilation. The case fatality rate is around 10%.
- Control measures: No specific therapy or vaccine is available; management relies on symptomatic support. Outbreaks are mitigated by effective case detection, the implementation of strict hygiene practices including patient isolation, and contact tracing.
@cgarcia: “Event 201” from October 2019 is only the latest exercise of its kind. Other scenarios include “Dark Winter” (2001), “Global Mercury” (2003), “Atlantic Storm” (2005), “Clade X” (2018) and others. In the exercises different aspects were trained.
Chinas authoritarian response was trained in the “Lock Step” scenario from 2010 (Rockefeller Foundation: “Scenario For The Future of Technology And International Development”, https://issuu.com/dueprocesstv/docs/scenario-for_the-future). The focus of the “Lock Step” scenario was to simulate
[…] a world of tighter top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership […] The Chinese government’s quick imposition and enforcement of mandatory quarantine for all citizens, as well as its instant and near-hermetic sealing off of all borders, saved millions of lives, stopping the spread of the virus far earlier than in other countries and enabling a swifter post-pandemic recovery. […]”
More background on the “Lock Step” scenario and its narrative: Lock Step – The eerily prescient pandemic scenario of the Rockefeller Foundation.
The focus “Event 201” was a bit different, it was on media management respectively control over the narrative. That was/is the role of PR firm Edelman (~7,000 emplyees, $894m revenue in 2017) which is specialized in crisis control and influencing the public opinion.