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    • Wed, Nov 26, 2014 - 02:14pm

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      Sandpuppy –

    If your wife is from STL, she will know what to do. It's very clear the areas to stay away from. 

    There have been quite a few highway closings as hundreds of protesters flood the roadways and camp out for a while. Major PITA if you are caught in it, but I am not aware of any injuries due to the stoppages. They have been all over the place, so it is pretty close to impossible to predict where and when, just stay tuned to 97.1 as she drives thru and they will alert her, hopefully in time for her to change her route.

    I am not carrying out of fear, at this point there has been virtually no impact on me and mine. It's more of a duty thing – I feel the duty to be prepared to protect my family and employees in a situation that can quickly change. But I often carry even when we are not in the middle of a manufactured race war too 🙂   If your wife is uncomfortable with carrying a weapon, perhaps pepper spray will put both your minds at ease?

     

    http://www.kimberamerica.com/pepper-blaster

     

    • Wed, Nov 26, 2014 - 02:04pm

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      Media critical of itself?

    This is a terrible tragedy. It isn't a metaphor for police brutality or race repression or anything else, and never was. Aided and abetted by a compliant national media, the Ferguson protestors spun a dishonest or misinformed version of what happened—Michael Brown murdered in cold blood while trying to give up—into a chant ("hands up, don't shoot") and then a mini-movement.

    When the facts didn't back their narrative, they dismissed the facts and retreated into paranoid suspicion of the legal system. It apparently required more intellectual effort than almost any liberal could muster even to say, "You know, I believe policing in America is deeply unjust, but in this case the evidence is murky and not enough to indict, let alone convict anyone of a crime." 

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/11/ferguson-fraud-113178.html#ixzz3KBPiYVe4

    • Wed, Nov 26, 2014 - 04:58am

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      How interesting

    it is to read thru this thread now that we have some real answers. Links of "witnesses" stories completely gone, or substituted with another story. Reports by people who were easily proven as false based on physical evidence supplanted by altered narratives. Reporting of "Orbital Blowout Fracture" not removed, but replaced by real photos now released with no mention of retraction of prior statements nor apology. 

    Before, I was annoyed at the 24Hr news cycle, now I am  just plain done with it.

    That, and wearing a G19 to work. 

    Sometimes I feel really dumb for playing along with the game. Now is one of those times.

     

    As I watch what is unfolding now, I see a few things:

     

    Some protesters are genuinely peaceful and looking to make long lasting improvements. 

    Some are genuinely pissed off and want revenge.

    Some are there because the cameras are there. 

    Some are there looking to win the lottery.

    All of them are being manipulated by the media.

    I'd be curiuos to know if my city would be on fire were it not for CNN, Fox, MSblahblahblah……….

     

     

    ~disgusted in St. Louie

     

    • Wed, Oct 22, 2014 - 05:53pm

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      Seems clear

    That someone is trying to break it to us gently.

    This is not going to go over well, and it will not be confined to Ferguson.

    Michael Brown protesters attempt to shut down Maplewood Wal-Mart

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/protests-on-moral-monday-range-from-plaza-frontenac-to-the/article_4eb2e982-cf90-5fe9-909c-05a1592c35b0.html

    too many more to list.

    • Wed, Oct 22, 2014 - 04:37pm

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      thc0655 wrote:Thanks for

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    Thanks for sharing.

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    I wish I could give you 10 thumbs up, except for that quoted part. I personally could have done without any of that commentary from RNCarl.  

    Carl – I can only assume that were this your community you would not be so eager to watch it all burn.

     

    Wow.

    • Wed, Aug 20, 2014 - 08:36pm

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      cmartenson wrote:The witness

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    1. The witness who shot the video saw the officer do the deed and ID'ed that guy there on the right as the officer involved, and this video was shot just moments after the shooting so the 'whisked away'…was that within seconds, or a minute afterwards?  Because if it was a minute or more afterwards, then this guy could be him.
    2. I trust my own eyes…check out these images.

     

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    I have a few concerns about that video, but I'll keep it to the discussion at hand. In the interview, she says she witnessed the whole thing, then ran in to her house to get her cell phone, and was shooting in 30 seconds. 

    The video shows lots of activity – multiple police and folks standing by, a yellow police tape cordoning off a very large area (this at the 20 second mark, so that must have taken 10 seconds), stuff like that. I don't see how that is all possible in 30 seconds. So no, I do not believe there is trustable continuity here with this video or witness.

    As to point #2, I'll submit your eyes are better than mine. 

    • Wed, Aug 20, 2014 - 05:54pm

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      I’ve just scowered

    over 50 websites trying to make heads or tails of this, and while I do believe that this particular website is manufacturing this particular story, I don't think that video evidence you point to is legit. Based on all I have read, the officer in the video is not Wilson, he was taken away immediately when 2 other officers made it to the scene. That comes from a number of sources that I do not have immediate links to. Perhaps one of our LEOs could chime in, but that would certainly make sense to me that the officer involved in the shooting would immediately be removed from the situation, weapon taken as evidence, etc, not just holster back up and saunter around potentially changing the crime scene, even if they were not injured.

    We probably will not have all the details until they come out in court. 

    • Wed, Aug 20, 2014 - 05:21pm

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      Possible Retraction

    On the link about Wilson's injuries.

    Sandpuppy correctly challenged the link via PM, saying while it is all over the place, everyone is linking to this same site. 

    I then went looking and found this:

    The entire right wing universe (including Drudge Report) is now screaming about this post by, yes, the Dumbest Man on the Internet again, claiming that anonymous sources told him officer Darren Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket” in a struggle with unarmed teenager Michael Brown



    and

    It’s possible that someone did leak this information to Hoft, but I’ll remind my readers that Jim Hoft is probably the single most dishonest right wing blogger on the Internet as well as the dumbest, with a very long history of distorting facts and completely making stuff up to push his far right, often overtly racist agenda.



     

    This is the only information I could verify in multiple sources, which is nothing more than a confirmation of some injury without specifics.

    The officer was taken to an area hospital where he was treated for a "swollen face," Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson said, adding he had not personally seen the officer's injury.

    He was released the same day. Jackson said he has spoken to the officer, who was "very shaken about what happened that day and the aftermath. … He's hurt."

     

     

    • Wed, Aug 20, 2014 - 02:07pm

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      Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket.”

    More facts as time marches on.

    My prediction: Wilson will be found justified and riots will intensify. I wish there were a way to make all this just stop. 

    • Tue, Aug 19, 2014 - 08:53pm

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      better link to officer’s story

    This link may be better received, although I know CNN does not have the best name with many either. They do state that it has been vetted, but that is not ironclad either.

    Officer's version of Ferguson shooting revealed

    Still just trying to piece this together…

    In the meantime, we have another police shooting:

    http://news.yahoo.com/city-edge-st-louis-police-shoot-kill-another-191548306.html

    This is 3 miles away, and early reporting seems to imply that it was suicide by police. 

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