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    • Wed, Jan 28, 2009 - 12:49pm

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      jerry_lee

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      Re: Reader Survey

    Don. I don’t do math. Here’s how my mind works:

    7 BILLION BODIES by JLM

    7 billion bodies

    Stacked up belly to back.

    7 billion bodies

    To the moon and back…

    Two and one half times!

    Can you hear the chimes

    For the people of the earth?

    What a way to limit birth! 

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    I know it’s a bit bizarre, but there’s even a tune for it…always a tune.

    Jerry of Lancaster PA  where all the Amish women are strong(and  their men are too)

     

    • Tue, Jan 27, 2009 - 07:00pm

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      Re: Reader Survey

    I’m 60 and S is 56. 2 children in 20’s.One in Dc. One in Philadelphia. We live in Lancaster PA. Except I work as a pastor in a small rural community 100 miles away. I stay there 3 nights per week. S is in adult education. One of her current students just made the front page here for mudering a woman.(Sorry to mention that)

    We have done the tier 1 stuff and are in discussions with a realtor to sell our home and then relocate…possibly to where I’m pastoring. Many upsides to that. The downside would be S probably would not have job centered employment, which means we lose health insurance.

    I garden, do vermiculture and write and record songs as a ‘hobby’. I give away harmonicas and teach people how to play. I plan to keep a large supply of harmonicas on hand to give to people when they’re ready to entertain themselves. I’ve had a band for 9 years consisting of all harmonica players that I’ve taught. 

    I have no doubt we’re in for a long emergency.

    • Tue, Jan 27, 2009 - 06:31pm

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      Re: Preparing for Layoff

    Yes to all of the above. I’ll probably print off Amanda’s post to share where needed.

    Thanks Sue for the reminder of differences in orientation. I tend toward optimism(although I am aware we are walking through dire straits) and always expect to find a way. I sometimes forget there are other ways people have learned to be. 

    • Sat, Jan 17, 2009 - 03:00am

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      Re: medical care preparedness

    The mutual aid model as practiced by the Amish, some Mennonite groups and, to a lesser extent, the Brethren, of which I am a part, is quite useful to reflect upon. (Thanks Dr Peters for reminding me)  I just had an ‘aha!’ in reading through all the responses. In my Brethren ‘network of trust’, to use Catharine Fitts’ term, is a heritage we’ve largely ignored for the last couple of generations.

    While I don’t know any Brethren talking about the issues we here are exploring,I’m sure there are some. I could probably find a few with a minimum of effort.

    Thanks to all who are here and for doing your best!Let’s continue to ask our questions and share our resources.

    Jerry Lee of Lancaster PA

    • Sat, Jan 17, 2009 - 02:39am

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      Re: Grief, stress, and planning: reaction

    Hey Suzie

    Are you in the current food storage class? I am and it’s a great help for the practical steps as well as the encouragement. Sharon has an amazing attitude. Plus,  she must be plugged into her own  personal form of alternative energy! I don’t know how it’s possible to do what she does!  As you know, she includes a weekly phone call as part of the course. She called me last night and it was great to ask her  some things directly…and I’m hoping some of her energy and attitude will rub off on me.

    Jerry Lee of Lancaster PA

    • Fri, Jan 16, 2009 - 03:00pm

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      Re: Grief, stress, and planning: reaction

    Thanks to everyone for being here and doing your best.

    I’m from Lancaster PA .If anyone is nearby, I’d love to discuss local needs for support etc.

    • Fri, Jan 16, 2009 - 02:42pm

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      Re: medical care preparedness

    I, too, expect most of our medical services to go by the board. And prevention makes a lot of sense. I’ll definitely be getting more into herbal solutions (a great name for a website, BTW if it doesn’t already exist!).

    That being said, I’m about to leave for a pre-op doctor’s visit. I’m scheduled to have both knees replaced in 2 weeks. I don’t know af any alternative remedies once the cartillage is gone and the structure is damaged. Gardening was extremely difficult last year without a cane to push me up when I was bent down.  Since I expect to be growing food the rest of my life and since we still have health insurance, I’m going forward with the replacements. I do, however, have some concern when I think of how much these operations are costing all of us.

    Anyhow, I’ll have some time to read and collect resources while I’m rehabbing.

    Thanks for the info Suzy and MR Pandabonium.

     

    I still wonder about developing a community plan for caring for one another over the next  20 ‘massively different’ years.

    • Thu, Jan 15, 2009 - 06:41pm

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      Re: Grief, stress, and planning: reaction

    Ditto the Sharon Astyk recommendation. I learned about her through someone else’s recommendation here. Now my wife and I are taking an online course from Sharon on Food Storage and Preservation. She’s excellent at helping you feel good about taking baby steps…or should I say going at whatever pace you’re able.

     

    About the stress etc. you might want to look at Chris’s article The Six Stages of Awareness under Essential Articles here if you haven’t seen it.

    • Thu, Jan 15, 2009 - 06:32pm

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      Re: medical care preparedness

    Thanks Sue and thanks eb.

    We eat a vegan diet while paying attention to needs for protein, vitamin B12, etc. We get our omega3 from ground flaxseed sprinkled on our oatmeal every morning. I agree with the exercise component, but still need to get into a regular discipline. I have 2 bad knees which adds to the challenge.

    Knowing a good herbalist or becoming one will likely be a big benefit.

    • Thu, Jan 15, 2009 - 02:06am

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      Re: A peek into the future? I hope not.

    Thanks. You’re right about the emotional part!

    Below is an excerpt from a section of her blog called TIPS FOR SAVING MONEY

    Cheese
    When you have almost finished the piece you have, but it is too small to use, put it in a freezer bag and in your freezer. In a little while you will have a nice collection of cheese that you can use to grind up and use for other dishes, or as pizza cheese. Even when your cheese has started to mold, most types of cheese have not gone bad despite this. All you do is cut a very thick slice off it, and i mean in thickness like 2-4 normal slices, throw that out, and put the good cheese in an airtight bag.

    Bread
    You can make your own bread, i have a few recipes i can share for those who enjoy home made bread or just want to make their own natural, and preservative free (much better for your body). You can bake the bread and freeze it right away. When we have made dishes that are made with bread as well and cut off the edges, we gather them in freezer bags and store. After we get a nice collection of edges, we can make a different kind of egg/bread oven baked disk. It´s delicious. Also when bread starts to dry up, i put that bread in with the edges, as long as it has no mold, it will be perfect later on.

    A Peak Into The Future? 

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