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    • Sat, Jan 31, 2009 - 06:46am

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      Re: Why Does the World Feel Wrong?

    Caroline said:

    "We should get rid of In-vitro fertilisation completely. If a person (male or female) can’t have kids then there’s a reason why; biologically and genetically.

    STOP TAMPERING WITH NATURE!!!:"

     

    And albinos should be subjected to 6.49576837458 hours of sunlight….

    • Sat, Jan 31, 2009 - 05:20am

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      Re: Time to get this out of the way: What is Capitalism?

    I write this in the hope of explaining what a ponzi-scheme is and what it is not, and with the expectation of extinguishing the notion that a ponzi-scheme is:

    1) mutually exclusive with a resource-scarce or resource-barren world (it needs you and all your worth);

    2) a failed scheme (witness your poverty);

    3) a system that needs a replacement (doth the docile cow dare stop producing during the milking?);

    4) the source of inflation or fiat money (Ask not what you can do for your government, but what…).

    Nice speech. Hitler had a nice uniform…

    Nonzeroone

    P.S. "You’ve got mail": [email protected]

    P.P.S. Damnthematrix, Have I mentioned lately how much I appreciate you?

    • Sat, Jan 31, 2009 - 04:54am

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      Re: Skype Forum – Two Beers With Steve

    Mike said:

    "Nice rules, Lee. I’m sure they will come in handy…I think I’m not just speaking for myself when I say that political frustration can run really high with this site’s members at times.:"

    Mike,

    You have a level of class that most people will never achieve. I assume you’ve seen Braveheart; do you remember the scene where William Wallace addresses the crooked son of the leperous (how appropriate) "noble?" He, William Wallace, said, "If you would just lead, they would follow you…I–I would follow you."

    Keep up the good work Mike.

    Lee

    • Sat, Jan 31, 2009 - 03:57am

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      Re: Skype Forum – Two Beers With Steve

    Saturday night? You’ve definitely posted the corrrect picture…

    As this involves a participant-preferred level of alcohol consumption, I would llike to suggest that we observe a realistic set of standards governing epithets, four-letter words, put downs, and momentary freak-outs; specifically:

    • epithets: max 3 per sentence (e.g. The banker consulted with the Treasury Secretary on the T.A.R.P.);
    • four-letter words: allowed as first or last word of sentence only; [Edited for language]
    • put downs: must refer to someone not logged on (e.g., Every time he opened his mouth we saw Dick);
    • momentary freak-outs: one per person per session (This is still America).

    Let’s chat!

    Lee

     

    • Fri, Jan 30, 2009 - 06:57am

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      Re: Why Does the World Feel Wrong?

    Caroline said:

    "I feel like this is NOT how my life is supposed to have turned out."

    Caroline,

    This is sure not the country that I grew up believing it was. So many people have commented here about actually "doing something about it," but the truth is, there is nothing that can be done at this point: we’re zooming down the last negotiable section of the slippery slope, about to slip over the edge of the cliff.

    I don’t know about you, but I, having spent a lot of time in other countries over the past twenty years, always felt there was something seriously wrong with the disparities in standards of living between Americans and everyone else–they look like humans to me. How could this be? Well, we ignored and rationalized and remained stoopid–in many cases, but, of course, those levels of exploitation (by our corporo-government) couldn’t last forever. Well, the end of "forever" is now here, visiting us with a vengeance. For about ten years now, I have been referring to this coming "adjustment" as IW3E (Inevitable World-Wide Wage Equilibrium). The disparities didn’t make sense, they weren’t just, and I’m painfully surprised that it has taken this long for the reckoning to arrive.

    The good news is that, after the unimaginable (in most Americans’ minds) tragedy that is going to happen here in America occurs, the survivors will find "The joy of living" once again. Less truly is more, as can be witnessed every day in rural Guatemalan highlands, Mexico City suburbs, Costa Rican rainforests, and pretty much anywhere outside of Seoul in South Korea. We’ve largely forgotten what living is here in America; it has little to do with all those material possessions…

    "Everything I am, I carry with  me."

    ~Cicero

    Lee

    P.S Everything I own will fit in one suitcase; it has ever since I walked across the border into Mexico in 1990–the beginning of a long and beautiful walk-about with people I am so grateful to have met…

    • Fri, Jan 30, 2009 - 06:35am

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      Re: Why Does the World Feel Wrong?

    Damnthematrix and mainecooncat,

    You guys lit a circuit in my head. You remember that scene from (assuming you’ve seen) City Slickers, where Phil is regretting his lack of success in life, saying he wants a "Do Over?"

    Well, that’s exactly what the U.S. needs, a Do Over. The "leaders" of late (25 years?) have allowed such a deviation from sense and sensibility that that which has resulted is nothing less than a criminal configuration of incompetence and inequity. As such, all monies that were received by anyone during those years (that are outside the historical norm) need to be "clawed back." (Whatever form that takes)  While the banksters, IPOsters, analysters and other criminals will cry all the way to their jail cells, that is the most fair thing that could possilbly happen: they didn’t earn–and sure as hell didn’t deserve–that stolen wealth; my parents, your parents, everyone’s grandparents worked their entire lives under the impression that what they earned they could keep. It’s time to honor the basis of their beliefs and efforts. And that especially goes for all the wealth stolen by issuing IPO’s where the conspirators keep 90% of the shares, manipulated the share price toward the stratosphere, then issued Billions more in shares and bonds, thus allowing themselves years (12, in the case of Amazon) during which they could operate in the red (maintaining negative retained earnings and having paid no dividends) and made billionaires of themselves; those billions came from hard-working American’s pockets. I know of someone who made over 40 Million doing exactly that…

    Claw back time is coming; if not. something much worse…

    Ask one of the 200,000 people that lost their jobs this week.

    • Fri, Jan 30, 2009 - 05:06am

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      Re: My Comment: Finally!!! (Mish)

    Re: Schiff’s response:

    Touché!

    Say "Goodnight Sitka."

    And, of course, the great irony–and most painful part for MiSh–will be that he either follow’s Schiff’s plan and does well over the coming years, or he doesn’t; either way, he loses…

    • Fri, Jan 30, 2009 - 03:05am

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      Re: Why Does the World Feel Wrong?

    Paul Craig Roberts on that which we refer to as our "government"

    Astonishing Incongruities: Is It Time to Bail Out of the US?

     An excerpt:

    "The financial damage inflicted on Americans by their own government is as great as would be expected from foreign conquest. While Washington "protected" us from terrorists by fighting pointless wars abroad, the US economy collapsed.  

    How can President Obama even think about fighting wars half way around the world while California cannot pay its bills, while Americans are being turned out of their homes, while, as Business Week reports, retirees will work throughout their retirement (which assumes that there will be jobs), while careers are being destroyed and stores and factories shuttered.  

    Americans are facing tremendous unemployment and hardship. Obama doesn’t have another dollar to spend on Bush’s wars.  

    Taxpayers are busted. They cannot stand another day of being milked by the military-security complex. The US government is paying private mercenaries more by the day than the monthly checks it is providing to Social Security retirees. 

    This is insanity.

    The banksters robbed us twice. First it was our home and stock values. Then the government rewarded the banksters for their misdeeds by bailing out the banksters, not their victims, and putting the cost on the taxpayers’ books.

    The government has also robbed the taxpayers of $3 trillion dollars to fight its wars. About $600 billion are out of pocket costs, and the rest is on the taxpayers’ books.

    When foreign creditors look at the debt piled on the taxpayers’ books, they don’t see a good credit risk. 

    Washington is so accustomed to ripping off the taxpayers for the benefit of special interests that the practice is now in the DNA. While bailouts are being piled upon bailouts, wars are being piled upon wars…

    A link to other articles by the author: http://www.opednews.com/author/articles/author12492.html

     

    • Thu, Jan 29, 2009 - 07:26pm

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      Re: Why Does the World Feel Wrong?

     

     DrKrbyLuv wrote:

    "I assumed that a man who acts without regard to moral laws must feel guilty about it. Then, one day, I stumbled onto this idea: Suppose he doesn’t. "


    Right. He doesn’t; they, almost to a one,  don’t; what’s worse, either because they are psychopaths, as you suggest, or because they simply don’t and can’t access reality due to an upbringing which sheltered them from it and leaves them without the circuitry to experience cognitive dissonance, there seems but one solution to their problem and ours…

    In a nation as "loaded" as ours,  I’m pretty sure someone is going to start implementing that solution sometime soon (I think the Vigilantes are just confused, for now, by the plethora of targets). This is not melodrama, it is a perspective gained from not having grown up in stupendous ignorance and having grown up in a well-armed neighborhood such as that Gerald Celente is often fond of refering to when he says: "When people lose everything, and they have nothing left to lose, they lose it."

    These people are out there; it’s a matter of time now… 

    Thanks for all the thought you put into that; it helps me,for one, when attempting to order the chaos within my own head…

    Lee

    • Thu, Jan 29, 2009 - 04:10pm

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      Re: I’m scared – what can I do?

    Nime,

    There is one solution to this; it will never happen: Take back the wealth and put it back into circulation.

     Even that would not stop what’s about to happen in America.

    This whole problem is result of the concentration of wealth in the hands of the few; that kind of money is less than useless, it’s dangerous–as has been proven.

     

     

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