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The reason why I hope it is working is answered by Davefairtex. I agree that the cordonne around the old and weak was lacking.
Although I’m still somewhat scepticle about the data, Sweden is US squared in terms of PC, this could truly be a silver lining: herd immunity seems possible. With an early intervention protocol, HCQ, zinc etc, it implies that “it can be beaten”.
I’v got a question that is bugging me. Maybe you can answer it. First of all let me state that I hope that the Swedish “model” is working, apart from some obvious cordonne sanitair related issues.
The question that I have is this: in how far is the data reliable? I understand that there are actually some internal and external tensions related to the Swedish model. Sweden has a reputation of not reporting certain items He in order to be politically correct. Is the data presented real, or does it fit a specific political goal? I hope the first.
Thanks in advance!
Hi Jim H,
Great overview! This one sentence explains all the resistance:
”So there you have it… Knowing all of this, the use of hydroxychloroquine against viral infections in general”
This can never be accepted by vaccin makers…
First of all, as an European, I do not envy the current state of affairs in the US. To me it seems like watching a high speed version of a tectonic shift in the US. It is bewildering and saddening. So yes, from afar I see the wheels coming off in the US; not that I’m too happy about the EU and euro btw.
As to the preps: I ordered a lot of things via many mail (supplements). In July and August I want to replenish the supplements to cover at least seven months (I try to buy everything at a reduced price). Wrt food, we have some stock, but during the lockdown I went out once in two weeks to do some shopping. I did make a list of durables for which we do not want to venture out. In August we will replenish those.
Although I do not know your financial and health situation, I think that if its in your capabilities, the coming two months are great to stock up some essentials before the herd catches on. Outdoor transmission is near impossible in warm wheather, indoor transmission can be minimized by a mask. Btw I did not experience any shortages yet.
I do not prep for a total meltdown, because in all honesty I believe it is impossible, unless you are a millionaire, or you own a reasonable sized estate. We did buy some metals years ago, we have some cash and some crypto. I do not know if this has any value at all when the wheels really come off, so be it. We will not be alone in our potential suffering.
– Max 4 grams of bark per day (~ 2 teaspoons)
– No more than 0.5 grams per serving
– Can be kept in fridge up to 72 hours (I used a glass bottle)
– It is an acquired taste, so maybe start with 4x half a cup as it may be very bitter at first. Now i actually like it!
I took 2 grams per day:
– bring 4 cups of water (or 4 half cups) to the boil, add bark, and let simmer for 10 minutes
– let it cool and presto, 4 servings of 0.5 grams
in case of covid:
– I found that 5 days of 4 cups of tea per day (=2gr bark/day), plus daily 100mg zinc, NAC + melatonine in the evening really helped + selenium (normal daily dose) + 50.000 i.u. Vitamine d3, for three days…
(I also combined it with artemisinin + allicin (the smelly pills, the non-smelly ones are useless). Artemisinin regulates your temperature extremely well, plus it moderates you immune response – links all over internet)
– after this, one more weeks of 2gr per day, 50mg zinc (plus NAC in the evening), selenium every other day
– after this 1gr bark per day, normal dose of zinc (i’m taking 25mg every other day to ensure the beast is really K.O.
It fully disrupted my temperature regulation, but a couple of cold showers fixed that (really!).
Hope this helps
BTW: when ill, at least four cups of green tea a day is also a good idea: keeps you hydrated+ ECGC is also an ionophore
in my youth I learned only to pick berries from elderberry bushes higher than 2 meter; there is a smaller species with more toxins. I never checked this, bit I still pick only berries from the higher bushes.
Surprise surprise, I didn’t see that coming😂😭😂
A friend of mine is very wise. He once told me that true freedom is independent from the society and time you live in. It is a freedom of soul, thought and vision. All the rest is just a veil that can absorb us, and keep the “true reality” hidden from us. Increasing awareness is extremely important, but if people are not willing or able to reach a certain stage of enlightenment, so be it. It is not our task to change the world, but to care for ourselves, our loved ones and the (few) people, animals and things that cross our path, and to do no harm. Throughout history this message that my friend conveyed to me, has been told by many a great men and women. Why is that? Why does it need to be retold again and again? Society is just the same play enacted on different stages in different times again and again. True progress is personal, all the rest is noise we have to bear, we can maybe profit from, but it is noise, and in the grander scheme of things totally irrelevant. Or, in the word of my friend “all of us have been here before. Maybe as kings, as beggars, as murderers or victims. Empathy and awareness does not come for free”.
we are on our own!
2010: in vitro zinc in cells inhibits RNA viruses: SARS-COV, and Arterivirus (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21079686/)
in this article you will find links to studied involving polio and influenza.
Please note: there is alot ado about this paper because a different ionophore was used.
2011: zinc versus common cold (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3273967/). Zinc taken as lozenges, not combined with an ionophore.
2013: zinc+ionophore inhibit herpes simplex 1 and 2 (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23867132/)
2014: zinc + ionophores (quercitine, ecgc, chloroquine, these are less toxic than the ionophore used in the two studies mentioned) check out the photographs! (https://moscow.sci-hub.tw/2733/3287e032ba9fd1726a328756c0018198/dabbagh-bazarbachi2014.pdf)
Next time I’m hit with a flu, I’m gonna test this.
I hope I hope you are right, but I believe all will return to the old ways. Statins have been known for a long time to increase mortality, true you’r less prone to die of a heart disease, but more prone to die of other reasons. I do not even have to post a link, there are tens of studies confirming this. But all this isn’t about the truth, it is about who is deemed to be right. Science is only ideal as a Platonian ideal; it is utterly corrupted in practice. Always has been. Not because of scientistsch and researchers, but because of money streams.
If HCQ + zinc works against this viral infection, what about it’s efficacy against other viral infections? The whole viral vaccin would be out of business. I expect very harsh measures between now and a year: “big money” will not let this happen! Just to get an idea about typical timelines: in the 70’s it was already known that cholesterol did not CAUSE heart diseases (google dr Enid, she compiled a great list of early research into that matter). An increase in cholesterol is basically an indicator of low grade inflammations in your bloodvessels, typically caused by certain “foods” (cough, sugar, cough). Still the statine market is a multibillion market, and still you can by margerines that are promoted to be healthy as they do contain cholesterol lowering substances. This is equivalent to defunding the fire department because they always show up when there is a fire!
I hope that people are wise enough to protect themselves and loved ones. I’m very pessimistic about TPTB.
Btw: I’m officially coronafree (thanks to zinc, kinabast, vitamine d, c, nac, etc)
Oh boy, that was funny😂
I promised myself to ignore all posts about “research” in general, and the Lancet specifically, but boy you made me laugh.