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I enjoyed your play when I thought it was fictional. Now my heart goes out to you and I hope you find peace in your life. Take solice in the fact that you are not alone, you have the CM communtiy and most importantly you have your children (who make think you are a little off but will always love you anyway and will be greatful when your preps will help to save their lives).
I have a couple of friends that are going through the same thing you are. In one family the husband is the prepper and in the other the wife preps. In both cases its an uphill battle to get the preps done. After having spent some time with both I think its mostly fear of whats comming that makes them against prepping. That and a total belief in the system. They don’t want to ackwnoledge how bad things may get or how drasticly their lives will change so they cling to being "normal" as much as possible. Anything thats not "normal" is crazy. I think we all had to go through a paradigm shift to become preppers and some people are not willing or capable of that change.
All the best
This play really makes me thankful for my wife and partner of 15 years. She has been completely supportive and engaged with prepping since we started almost five years ago. My eight year old daughter even loves to help prep. All of our preps are done together as a family, everything from gardening to self defense to food storage, even PM’s (my daughter loves the coins especially since the tooth fairy left her proof ASE’s for her teeth). Preping has brought us together like nothing else could. As a family we have gotten to a point where we truly feel we are as ready as we can be for the future, no matter what it may hold. My wife, Shonna, is a wonderful woman and I am thankfull for everyday we spend together.
Obviously, getting out of there as fast as you possibly can is the best solution but due to the rapid development of these situations, that often isn’t an option. It’s one reason I tend to stay away from situations with large crowds, particularly younger crowds. There often is little to no defense.
I try to stay away from any large gatherings of people also. I don’t think there is any way to defend yourself against a mob, certainly no way that will not result in imprisonment. Any action you may take that will end up hurting someone else will be viewed very poorly by you local DA. There will most certainly be several witness (friends of people in the mob) who will testify that you were the agressor and that they were just tying to defend themselves. Most of us here are highly trained and able to cause significant damage to an opponent very quickly (with or without a firearm), this will be used against us at a trial to show our aggressiveness. If you are the last man standing most people in "authority" will point the blame in your direction.
The best way to handle these situations is to stay far, far away from them.
I don’t worry about the "right" time to buy anymore. I just keep investing any extra fiat I have when I have it. Dollar cost averaging works if you are on a set income but don’t worry about what time of the month is right, just get started ASAP. No one knows for sure what the price will be next week or next month but most people agree that the price in a couple of years will be MUCH higher than it is today.
We have to force the government back into its proper constitutional role.
Too many people vote for bread and circuses. You will never be able to accomplish what you want with voting, even if you get a couple of good guys (or girls) elected what then? Look at Rand Paul, all he does is beat his head against a wall again and again with little or no result. Yes, if you could get 2/3 of the senate and house full of guys like him change would happen. Do you really think this is possible? All of our lifetime politians are bought and paid for, gerrymandering guarantees their reelection. The whole system is rigged to benefit TPTB and little if no after thought is given to the people. I stopped wasting my energy on trying to work with the system a long time ago. If I want a good laugh I put on my knee high rubber boots and turn on mainstrem media or anything to do with the federal government.
I agree with almost everything you say about how things should be but I think the only way change will happen is through a massive black swan event, most likely violently. Its what comes out of the ashes that we need to work for and prepare.
I’d suspect that there will be some warning before the internet just completely dies, and I’d have time to make a change if necessary.
Its not only a matter of the internet. What about fund mismanagment, capitol controls, excessive taxes, inability to take delivery. These are just a few examples of things that can go wrong. At least with physical it will be possible to avoid almost any problem.
“To correct the underlying financial inequality”, there is only one solution: cancel all the debts, and start again with a brand new sustainable economy……. Now THAT, the financial institutions would love! 😉
Great idea, I would love it and I dont even have any debt.
BUT, monies need to be regulated by your nations production in real goods, that includes Gold/Silver/Cars etc. etc. etc.
If this were the case the US would be dead broke. Yet we have the worlds largest reserve of gold.
Fiat in and of itself is not a tool for enslavement, fiat issued as debt is. Fiat can be issued by the Gov. debt free and the people can use it without becomming a slave. Rome did it for hundreds of years and prospered. England did it with tally sticks for hundreds of year and did pretty well. Lincoln issued the greenback and financed a war with it. The problem comes when private financial institutions get to create fiat with interest, this enslaves the people simply because there is NEVER enough money to pay it all back, hence we are always working to pay the man.
If you look at the dates you provided on a timeline you will notice this was right after the civic war. The banks were fighting hard to destroy the greenback as a nationaly issued currency because it was undermining their power and they made no interest on it. The banks then intentionaly caused a shortage of “paper” which is what caused the panics. This was done to force the public to accept a central bank so that the banks could consolidate the power for themselves. I think the reasons in your post for these events were more a symptom rather than a cause.
http://www.secretofoz.com/ here is a link for free on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qIhDdST27g I have found many other peices of info that support this but here its all put together pretty well.
I don’t believe that freedom and liberty are synonomous with a gold standard. I do believe debt free money is a intrinsic part of liberty, we cannont be beholden to a small gorup of people indefinately.
I am trying to make the point that for those that do have surplus capital that they wish to save or store, they have innumerable options to store this wealth, and are not bound to fiat and therefore are not “held hostage” at all as the article suggests. Regarding the transactional efficacy of the US dollar, like it or not, its hard to do better regardless of what you like or don’t like about the circumstances of how its issued.
I agree with this 100%. However you are talking about a very small % of people. The vast majority of people fall into the other category and are unable to break the bondage.
Here is believe you misunderstand my point. I completely agree there are limits to everything, but it is the failure to accept this that has driven the monetary system to where it is today. Gold will never again be tied to a fiat currency as long as we have a capitalistic economy. It cannot be tied to it because it (capitalism) intrinsically requires exponential expansion. This is why gold was decoupled in the first place, the money supply was so constrained by this linkage that capitalist expansion was hindered (some might say asphyxiated) by a money supply that could not keep pace with a rapidly emerging industrial revolution that required enormous sums of capital to fund the massive restructuring of the world economy- and still does today.
This is why I suggested a two part system(don’t really know if it will work but what the heck we have tried several other ways for no better reasons). There should be checks and balances in everything we do. I agree in part that was why gold was decoupled but the other reason was so that TPTB could make boatloads of money for nothing(and get their chicks for free). Your right that enormous sums are needed today, I wish we had chosen the slow steady path instead. Constraints on the money supply would have caused the economy to grow more slowly, use resources at a slower pace and given us more time to grow into ourselves. Without the rapid development of farming due to oil the population would have grown slower and maybe, just maybe we would have made better choices. Rapid population increases are at the heart of most if not all of our problems today.
While the bankers and politicians of the day were the bagmen of this escapade, the “shot callers’ were the industrialists and capitalists of the day, then, as now. Unfortunately, the obsession with free market economics in general, and Milton Freidmans’ failed theories specifically, will prevent any meaningful discussion on corrective action in our current political climate
I am not sure what to think of this. I have always thoght that the industrialists and the bankers were in bed ogether, after all back in the early 1900’s we are talking about a very small number of families that had most of the control and Jeckyll island was mostly financieers.
Milton Friedman didn’t fail he was a god and we should all bow before him. O wait I forgot, I am talking to smart people who know better . No way we will ever get maeningful discussion until we have a very serious event tht shakes the world. Unfortunately that event will be the end as we know it (not the end of the world just as we know it today). It will be what comes out of the ashes and the way we shape our future from there that will make the difference.
I have seen it postulated on a TED talk(a Canadian investor can’t remeber his name) that the price of oil/peak oil caused the collapse in ’08. I do remember the run up from ’07 into ’08 when vendors were putting fuel surcharges on everything and prices were starting to jump. Many business were starting to close or shrink dramaticlly. This leads to lost jobs and less income, people can’t make the mortgage payment etc. What I don’t get is 3 years later and the price of gas is almost back to the peak of ~$4.00 yet oil is ~$100 a barrel when in 2008 at peak oil was ~$130 a barrel. Must be the inflation that the FED and Govt. says is not hapening.
Many have no idea of the concept of Peak Oil (peak cheap oil), devaluation of the dollar, etc. If you try to bring it up, they might nod, but not in actual understanding – just out of politeness – like you would nod to some slightly crazy guy spouting conspiracy theories, hoping they’ll leave you alone.
This lack of understanding has helped gain us time to continue our preps and for that I am thankful. I didn’t catch on until early 2008 and these three years have been a blessing.