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    • Sun, Sep 20, 2009 - 04:45am

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      Cloudfire

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      Re: The Wealth Gap and the Collapse of the U.S.

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    Hakim Bey interviewed in his home, May 2009.

    Arthur: Peter Lamborn Wilson (aka Hakim Bey) on the intentional community: “the thin edge of the wedge of resistance” to “technopathocracy”

     

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    Thanks for the post, XRM . . . . You consistently introduce me to new voices and concepts . . . . and I really apprecitate it . . . .

    • Fri, Nov 07, 2008 - 08:03pm

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      Cloudfire

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      A strategy for digging through the rubble

     

    Indeed, the "evidence" is distorted.  In order to see the truth, it’s important to filter out the noise, so that you can hear yourself think.  Could I recommend taking some time (like a few months) away from the TV and movies, as well as most internet sites, and then reading some the excellent books you’ve been referred to? 

    It appears that you have some sincere angst about getting to the bottom of things.  Unfortunately, that’s really not possible until you’ve educated yourself deeply about these issues.  Then, you can form a clear picture of reality, that won’t be shaken by all the divergent (and noisy) opinionating.  I strongly believe that a reasonably intelligent person can sift through the rubble and find the truth.  But like all good things, it does not come without hard work. 

    I abstained from television for about 12 years, by choice. . .simply because it added nothing to my life.  I sometimes wonder if that’s why I’m able to see through the propaganda better than most people.

    One of the obstacles you face is that the truth is so completely different from the "reality" portrayed in the media, that it’s really unnerving to confront.  I see the frustration you’re describing as a very good sign that you’ll have the wherewithall to keep challenging your beliefs until the truth comes into focus.  For many people this comes at a definite moment in time, a sort of "awakening", after which the world never looks the same.  I liken it to the moment when one suddenly understands how a magic trick is done . . once you see the underlying mechanism, it can never really fool you again, and in fact, it’s no longer very interesting.

    One thing that’s important to realize, is that there are many people who stand to gain a great deal, the world, in fact, by keeping people like you in the dark.  This is why there is simply no substitute for doing your own thinking. 

    One needs to keep asking yourself about the real motives of those who try to sway public opinion.  It’s always useful to ask yourself, "Who gains by this?"  Often that will steer you to the truth.

    I second your motion to have all opinions backed by documentation.  I usually give much more weight to books and articles that are well annotated, so that I can check the sources.  When there is no documentation, I ask myself who would gain by distorting the truth.

    Although I realize that you are not a religious person, I must tell you that my own experience is that prayer and divine grace are also critical to "having ears to hear". 

     I hope this is helpful.  You seem to have sincere angst about understanding the world.  I wish you the very best in your endeavor.

    • Fri, Nov 07, 2008 - 05:42pm

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      Cloudfire

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      Re: The problem with officials

     

    I appreciate your insistence on cold, hard evidence, but the problem is that elected or judicial officials will filter information as directed by those who put them into power.  Consequently, the truth is more effectively perceived by making one’s own observations, and being willing to see the unvarnished truth. 

    It has been my experience that people, who are willing to see the truth in themselves and the world around them, are able to ferret out the truth.  While there are some details that will always remain secret, the patterns are large and obvious enough that one can get the general gestalt of a phenomena, whether it is political, social, economic, or spiritual. 

    Put simply, to those who love the truth, the truth is obvious.  The reverse is also true.  That’s why many people will never see the truth, no matter how much "evidence" is put in their faces.  They wait, instead, for an "official" to paint a picture of reality for them. 

    There simply is no substitute for doing one’s own thinking.  People who are not willing to do so make excellent propaganda targets, and deservedly so.  Without critical thinking, even the "cold, hard facts" can be distorted to any end.

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