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    The UNFAIRNESS Economy (Matt Taibbi & Chris Martenson)

    Bailouts for the rich. Barely anything for you.
    by Adam Taggart

    Friday, April 10, 2020, 8:13 PM

Award-winning investigative journalist Matt Taibbi penned perhaps the most iconic condemnation of the bankers who created (and subsequently got bailed out during) the Great Financial Crisis:

The first thing you need to know about Goldman Sachs is that it’s everywhere. The world’s most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money.

Tens years later, we find ourselves facing another crisis which, while triggered by the coronavirus instead of housing loans, has similar roots in a financial system made vulnerable by the unfair plunder of big banks and hedge funds — who are now being bailed out at vastly higher expense than in 2008.

Sadly, it seems we’ve learned very little over the past decade.

And as $trillions and $trillions in “rescue” stimulus are starting to be deployed by Congress and the Federal Reserve, it’s once again the financial power elite and corporate boardroom bigwigs who are receiving immediate and complete relief from the consequences of their actions.

But what will regular folks like you and me get? Crumbs, if anything.

And as taxpayers, we’re ultimately footing the bill (once again).

Given his intensive knowledge of the inner workings of Wall Street and its entanglement with the DC political machine, Taibbi explains how the inequity, abuse and fraud in today’s “Unfairness Economy” has become standard operating procedure — and will remain so until a serious enough social uprising takes place.

First, watch this 2-minute trailer:

And then click here to enjoy Peak Prosperity’s full interview with Matt Taibbi:

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  • Sat, Apr 11, 2020 - 2:08am

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    Galene77

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    Insider dealings...

    Good morning PP’ers all.

    Firstly, congrats Chris on the excellent Taibbi interview, its once more a rinse-n-repeat of 2008 tactics.

    And while most in the West, EU/USA etc, etc are daily distracted by ‘the numbers’…. You may have noticed too how the word vaccines is repeated over… and over and over.

    Few would be against benign vaccine treatment programmes, however with coronaviruses they have always been of dubious efficacy. Flu viruses are required to change annually, and are only of best guess value, hardly panaceas cure alls?

    Kindly Uncle Bill in his own words stated, during a recent TED talk:

    “Eventually what we’ll have to have is certificates of who’s a recovered person, who’s a vaccinated person… Because you don’t want people moving around the world where you’ll have some countries that won’t have it under control, sadly…. So eventually there will be this digital immunity proof that will help facilitate the global reopening up.”

    This ‘digital immunity proof’ is crucial to keep in mind, something that will be abused by all Govt’s/Google/Apple/ISPs for nefarious purposes.

    The incoming holy-grail of increasingly totalitarian governments is these four elements:

    1. A social credit system
    2. Mandatory vaccination
    3. Digital currency only… and
    4. Universal Basic Income (UBI) for the 99%

    This allows for the long awaited Davos set ‘wet-dream’ of herding the proletariat and retired elderly drones and accelerating their demise.

    There’s even an MIT paper outlining the scheme

    https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/03/17/905264/coronavirus-pandemic-social-distancing-18-months/

    So forge about being out of this lifestyle change in circumstances after Easter.

    Finally, while on the subject of inside track benefits… did you know that one Dr. Anthony S. Fauci holds some HIV patents?

    https://patents.justia.com/inventor/anthony-s-fauci

    What a lucky coincidence then that the HoneyBadger Virus does have an HIV kernel, picked up on once again by the folks at Epoch Times.

    Maybe this explains his lack of expediency on Hydroxychloroquine or any other non-vaccine drug therapy treatments…

    H A P P Y    E A S T E R    E V E R Y B O D Y

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  • Sat, Apr 11, 2020 - 6:29am

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    DIY Masks With Filter Insert Pockets

    My daughter is an RN who does the PPE training for one of the largest home health care nursing companies in the US.  She is working from home, creating training videos and basically spending all her time researching.

    Yesterday, I was discussing a mask I made with a filter insert pocket.  She warned me against using either HEPA filters (especially cut filters), or shop towels.  People are, to some extent, testing the filtering capabilities of materials, but not looking at what they are made of.  Apparently, both HEPA filters and some shop towels have glass in them.  Some shop towels also contain formaldehyde.

    Her position is this.  A three layer DIY mask already has decent filtering.  Adding a filter like a cut coffee filter or other benign filter makes it a good mask.  Adding a HEPA filter, not only has you breathing in things you don't want in your lungs, but also makes the mask too hard to breath through.

    I haven't verified her recommendations, but they pass my reasonability test, so I am passing them on.  I tried a HEPA filter in my mask for a few minutes and it was difficult to breath through.  For now, I'm going to wear my mask with a coffee filter, until I come up with something better.

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  • Sat, Apr 11, 2020 - 7:32am

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    Any confusion why Taibbi calls this the "Unfairness" economy??

    Jim Cramer

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  • Sat, Apr 11, 2020 - 10:06am

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    Sweden 'killing' old useless drones

    Leaked document from Swedish hospital shows that they are now denying life-saving treatment to people with a “biological age” of over 80. In practice, this means that if you are over around 80 and not extraordinarily heathy for your age, you will be left to die. The humanitarian superpower of Sweden in practice.

    https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.is%2FlKt6B

     

    Will this become the standard of care in the new age? Who determines usefulness?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05dYDk3fppw

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  • Sat, Apr 11, 2020 - 10:18am

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    Mark_BC said:

    The thought occurred to me that maybe they are so reluctant to encourage mask wearing in the west, even discouraging it, is because they want it to remain a taboo practise so that facial recognition remains a useful tool for keeping track of people in public. Already it was previously illegal to wear a mask in public in canada. They need to keep that going otherwise they won't be able to identify protesters in the future and use that against their social credit score to reduce their universal basic income -- an effective way to squash social unrest. A ruined economy with no jobs to support people who dont want to be serfs, and then cut off ubi to those not deemed to be supportive of the state, so you'll really have no option to survive unless you submit.

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  • Sat, Apr 11, 2020 - 10:29am

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    Sabemenos

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    Totally off topic here but

    I have to sell our silver eagles.  They were my husbands.  I think there are 80- or more of them in plastic round things marked 69. Mostly years in the 1980s.  Does anybody know what a coin like that is worth?  I just know whoever I take it too will look at me and  know I’m a clueless old farm woman and rip me off.
    hate to sell them but no money coming in. Thanks.

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  • Sat, Apr 11, 2020 - 11:04am

    Sparky1

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    Sabemenos, I sent you a PM

    Hi Sabemenos,

    I understand, having been there in the past as well. I sent you a personal message a few minutes ago. Please check your PP in-box.

    Good luck and stay well!

    Best,

    Sparky1

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  • Sat, Apr 11, 2020 - 12:08pm

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    Lets See Some Links

    Yesterday, I was discussing a mask I made with a filter insert pocket.  She warned me against using either HEPA filters (especially cut filters), or shop towels.  People are, to some extent, testing the filtering capabilities of materials, but not looking at what they are made of.  Apparently, both HEPA filters and some shop towels have glass in them.  Some shop towels also contain formaldehyde.

    Her position is this.  A three layer DIY mask already has decent filtering.  Adding a filter like a cut coffee filter or other benign filter makes it a good mask.  Adding a HEPA filter, not only has you breathing in things you don’t want in your lungs, but also makes the mask too hard to breath through.

    Les I understand your sentiment, but there is so much misinformation out there, I would caution against emotional and unfounded assumptions. If your daughter has actual links, then share them. If its word of mouth, then I would not.

    I would say highly, do your research and make up your own mind. Join one of the FB groups making masks like this one

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/maskproject/

    The people making masks are all over the research and the studies. Hepa furnace filter and vacuum bags were recommended early on but have been discontinued because of further research for the issues you mention, fiberglass, micro glass beads and poor airflow.

    That said your recommendation to not use blue shop towels because they contain formaldehyde doesn't show up in any links I could find. What mention of chlorine, bleach or formaldehyde I could find is in reference to regular paper towels, especially the white one which are treated for color. I would expect that is true to coffee filters that are white as well.

    From this manufacturer video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqX1woKpk_E

    It appears to me that they do add latex to bind the recycled and fresh paper pulp together but doesn't mention any chemical treatment.

    Try this video:

    Note at time 1:30, the inventor of the N95 masks recommends this material.

    This is the kind of data driven links I like to post to allow people to make up their own minds. Unfortunately there is no data for coffee filters.

    https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/best-materials-make-diy-face-mask-virus/

    https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/diy-homemade-mask-protect-virus-coronavirus/

    I want to point something else out. We're not breathing thru these things 24/7. We're wearing them hopefully for just a few hours and for once every few days. So some minor contamination from things like minor chemicals or glass beads IMO is probably better than going out with a mask that protects you at 40-50% versus a mask that protects you at 90% from this virus.

    Put a coffee filter between your fingers and rub it back and forth, then do the same for a shop towel. Tell me which you think is more sturdy. Thickness as in the ability to filter out particles is a big factor in catching droplets. I don't feel that something as thin as coffee filter paper stands up.

    Make up your own mind, just do it off of hard data and not second hand opinions.

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  • Sat, Apr 11, 2020 - 12:09pm

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    Mark_BC said:

    They are selling with 50-100% premiums over spot price from the dealers. For you to sell them you won't get such a premium, maybe 50%. So they should probably get you up to $25 each. If you can wait a few weeks you might get a substantially higher price since supplies are running out. Or only sell what you really need to on a weekly bonus.

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  • Sat, Apr 11, 2020 - 12:20pm

    Sabemenos

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    Sabemenos said:

    That’s a huge help thanks

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  • Sat, Apr 11, 2020 - 1:04pm

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    Manufacturing OnShoring - Don't Expect It Means Jobs

    Canadian Prepper has a new video out

    He makes a great point, starting around 4:30, that just because businesses are rethinking their previous off shoring of their manufacturing capacity doesn't mean that when they bring the capacity back to the US it will mean well paying jobs for the masses.

    Look instead on it providing the push to automate their new factories the the Nth degree. Robots, robots, robots. Machines don't ask for PPE, robots don't ask for a living wage. Robots do ask for health care.

    If we are lucky, some politicians will put in place a meager tax on all of that to help the unemployed but I doubt it.

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  • Sat, Apr 11, 2020 - 1:05pm

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    kathryn askew said:

    Find out what the price of ounce of silver is today and sell for that price or a bit over that price.

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  • Sat, Apr 11, 2020 - 1:39pm

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    COVID-19 as a CCP bio weapon

    Interesting video but is The Epoch Times a credible source or just conspiracy theorists? I ask out of ignorance, not to start a fight.

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  • Sat, Apr 11, 2020 - 2:13pm

    jerryr

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    Epoch Times

    According to Buzzfeed via Wikipedia: "In April 2018, The Epoch Times publisher Stephen Gregory and editor-in-chief Jasper Fakkert reported a third-hand claim that Donald Trump reads The Epoch Times every day and "it's the one newspaper that he believes to be a truthful and correct paper."

    On the other hand, conspiracy researchers such as myself say that Epoch Times operates as a mouthpiece of Falun Gong, a heavily persecuted Chinese religious organization which unfortunately has looked to the CIA and other Western intelligence agencies for their salvation.

    Ironically, I am seeing a lot of ads for Epoch Times in Peak Prosperity's YouTube feed. I would assume that this is Google's automated ad targeting at work, but I wonder why the AI system is making this association.

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  • Sat, Apr 11, 2020 - 2:16pm

    Galene77

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    CCP bio weapon

    It would be fair to say the Epoch Times is associated with the Falun Gong spiritual movement that currently has an alt right, pro Thump leaning and is highly anti-CCP.

    However China's controlling CCP is known to be a human rights abuser - FACT

    Like all reports it contains truths.

    What do I believe?

    The Wuhan Lab (BSL4) was working on SARS coronavirus from 2005 onward.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology

    So to cut to the chase... these two paragrahs work for me either:

    either:

    – A coronavirus spontaneously mutated and jumped to humans at a wet market or deep in some random bat cave which just so happened to be 20 miles from China’s only BSL-4 virology lab, a virus with an unusually slippery never-before-seen genome that’s evading zoological classification, that may be as much as twenty-times more contagious than SARS and whose spike-protein region which allows it to enter host cells holds an unique HIV-like signature with the concomitant clinical response, that somehow managed to infect its patient zero who had no connection to this market, and then be so fined-tuned to humans that it’s gone on to create the single greatest public health crisis in Chinese history with approaching 100 million citizens locked-down or quarantined – also causing Mongolia to close its border with its largest trading partner for the first time in modern history and Russia to ban Chinese citizens from entry into their country.

    – Or, Chinese scientists failed to follow correct sanitation protocols possibly while in a rush leading up to an international virological conference and during their boisterous holiday season, something that had been anticipated since the opening of the BSL-4 lab and has happened at least four times previously, and accidentally released this bio-engineered Wuhan Strain – likely created by scientists researching immunotherapy regimes against bat coronaviruses, who’ve already demonstrated the ability to perform every step necessary to bio-engineer the Wuhan Strain COVID-19 – into their population, and now the world. As would be expected, this virus appears to have been bio-engineered at the spike-protein genes which was already done at UNC to make an extraordinarily virulent coronavirus. Chinese efforts to prevent the full story about what’s going on from getting out are because they want the scales to be even since they’re now facing a severe pandemic and depopulation event. No facts point against this conclusion.

    And what would make you think someone bought bat soup in a seafood market?

    /sarc off

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  • Sat, Apr 11, 2020 - 4:19pm

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    jerryr

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    China and USA agree to cover up?

    And what would make you think someone bought bat soup in a seafood market?

    There is also a third theory, that the Americans introduced the virus into China, with the BSL-4 lab as a convenient cover story. But, the Chinese government is no longer talking about this theory, as noted in this Indian broadcast:

    And if you consider the amount of globalist cooperation and trade and coordination between Chinese and American billionaire business interests: "what would make you think that someone bought bat soup in a seafood market", indeed?

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  • Sat, Apr 11, 2020 - 7:55pm

    dpbreger

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    Thank you. Sounds reasonable to me too.

    I spent an hour plus taking apart and cutting a HEPA furnace filter, all the while wondering what it was made of.  Also managed to cut myself on the wire and got a paper cut from the cardboard. So much glue. Not a good idea. Just wanted a back up, just in case. I am not out and about, so don’t usually need one. Stopped running too: don’t want there to be any reason to need help or healthcare; can’t breathe well w a mask while running; too many people out and about now - difficult to stay far away.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 2:37am

    Galene77

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    China and USA agree to cover up?

    No my dear, international scientist that were working on ‘juicing’ ARI coronaviruses are all keeping very quiet about how they f#cked up. Why?

    Lest we forget, there is still a shed-load of BIG pharma cash to be made out of the urgent ‘solutions’ required to this collective international misery inflicted as Uncle Bill & Aunty Melinda well know.

    What caused Chernobyl (1986)? Arrogance, bullying, fear, a bonus pay get it done at any cost structure and a flawed scientific principle.

    What caused Wuhan Covid-19 (2019)? Arrogance, bullying, fear, a bonus pay get it done at any cost structure and a flawed scientific principle.

    Have to say Dan at Harvard house finally knocks it outta the park!

    https://harvardtothebighouse.com/2020/03/23/no-monkey-ever-reheated-a-frozen-burrito-what-the-expanse-tells-us-about-the-covid-19-pandemic/

    And for those that due to unfortunate dietary choices, smartphone addictions and/or any lifestyle induced ADHD ailments cannot hitch into a 20min read, here’s a comforting cycling video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIW3TQpVJYs

    HAPPY HOUSE ARREST EASTER SUNDAY!

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 3:57am

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    Covid Theories

    Since the world has gone completely bonkers, nothing is out of the realm of possibility, including The Virus being a bioweapon created by either the US or China.  However, it makes total sense to my way of thinking that it's simply nature's response to too many people.  The planet must recognize humanity, with its ever increasing population and destructive behavior, as an enemy that has to be significantly reduced in its numbers and impact, if the web of life is to remain healthy.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 4:40am

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    Bioweapon - Scientific Paper Withdrawn

    Hello All,

    Since were on the topic of bioweapons, I was sent this scientific paper by one of the lawyers on our team (were suing the govt. for another issue) and I would love to hear the opinions of some of the more scientifically minded folks on the website.  Is this legit?  Is there merit?

    Thank you in advance for your insights.

    Link to Paper:  Uncanny Similarity

    - Matt

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 5:09am

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    Is Covid-19 spread through feces?

    Is Covid-19 spread through feces?

    New research examines wastewater to detect community spread of Covid-19

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 5:14am

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    Hladini

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    Confusion

    Good Morning Everyone!  Was taking in my daily dose of Zerohedge and found this little gem in the comments section:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo-tuRMbpus

    I took the other pill in 2008 when I learned the facts and science of 911.  I've never been the same since, the journey led me to the Crash Course.... and I couldn't get enough of 911 documentaries.  Have been following the issue ever since and in case some of you are not aware the Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth submitted a Special Grand Jury Petition for an investigation into 911.  The Southern District of NY Attorney General's Office accepted the special petition, but has since stonewalled - not returning phone calls, no verbal/written updates, etc.  A&E911 will have to take the government to court to compel them to communicate with the Petitioners.  For more information about this group here's the link:  https://www.ae911truth.org/

    A new peer reviewed study has been published from the University of Fairbanks, Alaska on WTC Building 7, the third building to come down around 5 pm on 911, perfectly in it's own foot print and for which NIST claims it's the only tower in history to fail due to fire, alone.  Of course, NIST will not release its data to be peer reviewed because the information could endanger public safety!

    In any case, the study concludes that explosives brought down WTC Building 7.

    As Jim Kunstler would say, "The government's got some 'splainin to do."

    This information may seem off topic and I hate to sound a little off the beaten path and I have followed Chris and his advise on this pandemic since Jan/Feb, but I have seen some other videos of normal everyday mainstreeters - obviously not actors/actresses - filming their hospitals all over the world and it's 'crickets.'  Nada.  Nothing happening.  Nothing happening at the "war zone" hospitals in NY, Chicago, Miami-Dade, LA California, Canada, UK, Germany.

    Turns out the NYT 'war zone" ER doctor featured in the hospital video is a medical simulator.   CBS had to apologize for an editing error when they ran an Italian hospital scene as a NY hospital scene.  It's got me wondering.  Then I read an excellent article on Zerohedge about the biological virus studies going on since 2017 and how Dr. Foucci is the head of the very same NIH that is studying virus' in a way that had only been made 'legal' again 2017 after a ban period, and same NIH/Foucci conducting same studies before the ban period.  There's a reason this type of research was banned.

    The familiar thread  to all of this is confusion.  I think that confusing the public is the worse psyops of all!  Look at how confusing the face mask issue became.  Look how confused the doctors are treating for viral pneumonia when it's a blood disease.

    Another thing, with all this information and perceived threats, the whole shit show immediately divides us according to our levels of reactions to different perceived threats.

    Does Ision have any comments to this theory?

    Of course, I'll still be prudent, still wearing a mask in public.  HELLS BELLS, this thing could be a f-in bioweapon!

    However, now I'm wondering if something else or something more is amiss.  Confusion is the best description.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 5:24am

    Hladini

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    Fear or More Fear

    Galene77 I agree with you.  I don't know which I'm more afraid of:  forced vaccine or forced digital money.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 5:33am

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    Hladini

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    For Chris and Research Assistants

    Read this from zerohedge:  https://www.zerohedge.com/health/what-expanse-tells-us-about-covid-19-pandemic-and-gain-function-research

    In a previous comment, I referenced this article without the link, so here it is. The banned research was on the gain-of-function, dual use research meaning medical and military.  Is there any data/research done that would show the CoronaVirus gaine-of-function has been enhanced?

    This is one of the links the author relies on:  https://harvardtothebighouse.com/2020/01/31/logistical-and-technical-analysis-of-the-origins-of-the-wuhan-coronavirus-2019-ncov/

    Not sure if this is a good lead or not, thought I would share.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 5:36am

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    Official Notice: All Dissent, Revolts, Discussions, & Gatherings Have Been Cancelled

    Due to the quarantine, for “the abundance of caution” Of course.

    Nope, can’t protest anything if  your afraid of your neighbor. Your training is almost complete.

     

     

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 6:28am

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    Galene77

    This is the Most important article I have read in recent weeks. Thank you for posting. Chris could do a complete episode on the origin of Covid19.

    Dan at Harvard house finally knocks it outta the park!

    https://harvardtothebighouse.com/2020/03/23/no-monkey-ever-reheated-a-frozen-burrito-what-the-expanse-tells-us-about-the-covid-19-pandemic/

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 6:51am

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    Thanks for the links

    dtrammel,

    Thanks for the links.  I will look into them as time is available.

    I've got garden prep projects going right now and have limited time to research this topic.  It's not critical yet as I'm not going out much and have an adequate supply of retail masks on hand at the moment.

    That said your recommendation to not use blue shop towels because they contain formaldehyde doesn’t show up in any links I could find. What mention of chlorine, bleach or formaldehyde I could find is in reference to regular paper towels, especially the white one which are treated for color. I would expect that is true to coffee filters that are white as well.

    People will adopt different approaches to dealing with the coronavirus.  One thing I'm not going to do is use mask components that may contain toxic of harmful components, simply to get a few extra percent filtration.  I would be thinking about the possible toxins constantly and be uncomfortable wearing the mask.  My masks, without a filter, are three layers of high thread count linen.  They are probably 65-70% for 1-micron bacteria without a filter.

    One difference with coffee filters is that they are "food grade" retail items, unlike hepa filters and shop towels.  It is less likely that the FDA will allow toxins to be part of the manufacturing process.  I doubt shop towels and hepa filters are regulated by the FDA.  Another difference, is that there has not, so far, been a run on coffee filters and while filtration data on these items may not be readily available on the forums yet, a couple of layers of coffee filter in a mask is certainly not going to reduce the masks filtration characteristics.

    Thanks again for the effort you put in.  As is my practice, I will continue to learn and modify my approach as I acquire better info.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 8:04am

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    The Confusion Game...

    You are correct in your description of confusion as being a common element infused into every major geo/political event, the result of which involves transformative changes in the status quo upon the world stage.

    In the Community, we call this, "The Confusion Game," which is a philosophy used to disable the intellectual principle in order to conceal what we wish to hide from being identified with certainty.   This game applies to just about every intelligence activity you may imagine.

    For example:

    An undercover operative plays the game inside a penetrated cell to protect themselves and to manipulate the cell's managers.  The operative may stay inside the cell, even after we start to eliminate it, to keep its members from realizing they are being hit...and fleeing...so we may get them all.

    In biological warfare and chemical warfare, we don't just use one agent, or pathogen, but several.  In this way the enemy is confused as to what is happening, and can be manipulated into taking actions to counter one weapon, while opening themselves to an increased effect of another, totally different, weapon.

    Example:

    We attack your air base using a nerve agent, which you are familiar with, and can test for.  During this attack, you identify the chemical weapon being used, and know it can be treated with "Atropine,"  a medication effective in treating certain types of nerve agents. 

    We then attack your air base with a DIFFERENT nerve agent, knowing your testing will ALSO identify it...but, do so incorrectly...making your THINK it to be more of the same...which is treatable with Atropine.  However, the new nerve agent you now face cannot be treated with Atropine at all.  In fact, the use of Atropine injections to treat the new agent, will KILL YOU ALL BY ITSELF.

    The confusion we have caused you results in your forces acting to cause more of them to die by their own hand, thinking they are saving themselves as they do.

    Example:

    An enemy figures out some aspect of an intelligence operation, or technique, or discovers some facts we do not wish to be acknowledged as the truth.  The enemy decides to publish what they have discovered in some magazine, newspaper, or have it reported on some network news program.   Then, they watch what happens.

    If they guessed incorrectly, we become very upset about the release of the information.  Investigations are demanded.  People are called upon the carpet.  People may be arrested.  Budgets may be cut.  Congress may spend weeks pounding their chests and tables, about it.  Laws may be passed.  Projects cancelled.  ALL sorts of reaction takes place.

    If they are correct.  Crickets.  The leak is then used for disinformation distribution to the enemy.  And, the guilty parties within manipulated and controlled, or vanished.

    Confusion is why there are levels of secrecy, and why one party is told one thing...and another party a different thing...about the SAME THING, about which NO ONE IS TOLD the actual facts, if they are outside the Community.

    One may come to understand that an event, such as 911, or the present SARS-COV-2 Pandemic, has aspects to them indicating deliberate manipulation of the facts, and the deliberate dissemination of disinformation, and the purposeful publication of contradictory information.    Reports written.  Reports vanish.  One is certain things are thus...one moment...and suddenly that certainty vanishes, to be replaced with certainly about something else.   Until, no one is certain about anything, confusion reigns, and one stops trying to understand anything at all.

    The very purpose of The Confusion Game.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 8:47am

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    Ision, are you an operative that has penetrated PP and keeping an eye on us?

    Do tell, spill the tea😳

     

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 9:01am

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    green_achers said:

    After listening to this before I went to bed last night, I find on Reuters' homepage this morning this little nugget:
    Seen everywhere in last U.S. crisis, moral hazard is nowhere in this one
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-fed-moralhazard-an/seen-everywhere-in-last-u-s-crisis-moral-hazard-is-nowhere-in-this-one-idUSKCN21U0GV

     

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 9:23am

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    Me? An Operative?

    AKGrannyWGrit:

    I am an ex-operative and I no longer get paid by any agency.  I am not currently playing the confusion game.

    I enjoy this place.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 9:29am

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    Thanks Ision

    Got it (wink, wink😉)

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 9:41am

    Ision

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    Feces?

    Yes.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 9:51am

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    Sewage

    Ision, etal, I guess we can say the poopies have officially hit the fan.  Having worked in the field, I will be looking for reports that sewage treatment folks are getting COV-19 at a higher rate.  They are immune to almost everything coming down the pipe.  There are a lot of aerosol sources in a plant, sprays, bubblers, tricklers to oxygenate the liquids.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 10:01am

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    More Sewage

    Sooo if they make bio-sludge and use that as fertilizer can our food get infected?  Crazy thought, or is it?

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 10:03am

    Ision

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    Sewers...and the evil virus

    Since the virus is found in raw sewage, and the virus can be aerosol borne by the function of flushing a toilet, we already know connecting drain, waist, vent, lines can carry active virus and aerosols though out a building...and into the sewage mains.   A dry P-Trap can let sewage gases escape, for example, from a dry toilet, or shower drain.

    Reports from the Chinese experience with viral pathogens demonstrate sewer vectors.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 10:08am

    kunga

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    AK Granny/ Bio sludge

    Bio sludge, marketed as Milorganite, bad to use on a garden as it has concentrated heavy metals.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 10:10am

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    Hladini.. great post

    Hladini said,

    The familiar thread  to all of this is confusion.  I think that confusing the public is the worse psyops of all!  Look at how confusing the face mask issue became.  Look how confused the doctors are treating for viral pneumonia when it’s a blood disease.

    Another thing, with all this information and perceived threats, the whole shit show immediately divides us according to our levels of reactions to different perceived threats.

    I saw Ision's post about this as well (thank you).. clearly there are tactics afoot to confuse, and especially I would say to continue to divide us.  The deep state has done a wonderful job of exploiting Trump derangement, which is entirely their creation, to cloud truth about, for instance, hydroxychloroquine.

    Also, a huge thanks for explaining your position regarding 9/11 truth.  If a person does not understand this, then you are not going to get too far in any other truth-related conversation.  I believe that the majority here know that the story that was narrated to us regarding 9/11 was a lie.  Once you know that, you are at least better equipped to see through the layers of deception - you know that you have to really dig beneath the mass media propaganda for real information and constantly apply critical thinking to build out the picture.

    As most of us know.. sometimes there is a glitch in the matrix that we can see quite readily.  But why believe our own eyes and ears when it's so delicious to continue living in the matrix, where nobody will call you a conspiracy theorist;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xvbuw947Wg

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 10:12am

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    Sewage Viral Longevity...

    An active virus can be present in an infected person's feces, but how long it remains active, and if it can reach another host, is the issue.  The virus cannot replicate itself without a host cell's machinery.  So, if nothing else, the shed virus will become inactive over time and not grow like some bacteria...or mold..might.

    Water is often sterilized by UV-C radiation, too.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 10:27am

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    kunga

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    Shaved head

    Hey, Ision, I shaved my head to be in solidarity with you.  Now, I need to always wear a hat because of sunburn protection.  But now, none of my hats fit anymore.  So many problems!!

    Have a great day, Friend.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 10:28am

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    Thanks Ision

    Not feeling warm and fuzzy.  You would think UV-C would kill Hantavirus too.  But one can get that from mouse poop. Mysteries await the unsuspecting.

    AKGranny

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 10:52am

    Ision

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    Shaved Heads are BETTER!!

    The trick is to get all new hats!   And, the old hats, which had shrunken headbands, like my old Stetsons and Resistals...fit better,  afterwards, too.

    I do wear hats to keep the sun off my bald head, AND, I have yet to savor the feel of a rain drop SMASHING onto my head, without the buffering effect of hair...to slow it down a bit.

    I really like not having hair...just like Joe Rogan!

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 11:08am

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    UV-C Will Kill Anything...

    What people may not realize is the OZONE LAYER over our heads, acts to block and limit the Sun's output of UV-C...from hitting the ground.   This is why UV-C lamps are better than direct sunlight.

    Remember "The Ozone Hole?"   This was complete nonsense.  Yet, this stupidity allowed governments to pass all sorts of meaningless laws, and increase the costs associated with out standards of living.

    Remember it was FREON, which they blamed for the Ozone Hole.  But, what they did not tell you is that Freon is heavier than air and likes to immediately drop to the ground, when released.  And, that Freon itself does NOTHING to Ozone...at all.   The Freon, which somehow got itself in the ozone layer....had to undergo a energetic particle impact from solar radiation, in order to become a CHLORINE....molecule, which THEN could act as a catalyst.

    We were worried about a heavier than air rare gas, which some incredibly tiny portion of would resist physics and float to the highest levels of the atmosphere...where an incredibly tiny amount of these Freon molecules could be struck by particles to become chlorine molecules...and hang around long enough to put holes in the ozone layer...which could then allow the evil UV-C radiation to penetrate and cause everyone to die of skin cancer.

    All this, while every instant the Sun SHINES, and its energy hits the Earth..it is continually creating OZONE!    The entire notion was a lie..and still is a lie.

    Freon MIGHT become a chlorine...but, what about the chlorine....which is already chlorine?  Do we get upset about it?  Nope.

    The largest source of natural chlorine...is the world's oceans...and we could not stop its creation no matter how hard we tried.   But, we could make money and gain control with Freon.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 11:35am

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    Biobot - feces surveillance - STF Home

    The sewers of our small city (5,000 +/- humans) are under surveillance by the COVID-19 Biobot.  All in the name of research, the good citizens are allowing our feces to be analyzed and our neighborhoods to be mapped for COVID-19 hot spots.  Above ground, we still don't have enough COVID-19 test kits.  But wait, the Biobot can also detect opioids!  What else should they look for, while they are looking around in our excrement?

    Furthermore, our county is being sued by the state of Texas because we have the guts to tell second homeowners to Stay the F** Home.  Our restaurants are closed, our local hospital is tiny and is manned by friends & neighbors we know and care about, our trails are already crowded with locals, so everyone else should Stay the F** Home.  But if you have enough money, you can coerce the Texas attorney general into suing us, so you can fly your private jet into our publicly funded airport and bug out in your multi-million dollar getaway estate.

    Crap! (pun intended), I used to be such a technology-trusting, rule-following, non-complaining taxpayer.  Now I'm a fed up plebe with a pitchfork.  The Revolution is starting.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 11:35am

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    Virus Task Force - Body Language is Revealing

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 11:44am

    adapt-and-overcome

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    Silver Eagles

    So does your username mean "one knows less"?

    There's an old saying:  "If you don't know jewelry, know the jeweler."

    Your first goal is to find a trustworthy source of information.  I've dealt with Liberty Coin and found them to have integrity.  Do your own research, though.  I wouldn't trust any outfit that solicits my business [think late night infomercials or ads on bus stop benches]; I seek them out, not vice versa.

    Here's what they have to offer in the way of Silver Eagles [and they buy as well as sell, although they will pay less than their sale price; the spread is how they make money]:

    https://www.libertycoin.com/US-Mint-Packaged-Silver-Eagle-Coins-s/203.htm

    "Junk" silver [pre-1965 quarters and dimes] sell for the bullion price, currently about $15/oz.

    However, numismatic [ie coin collecting] coins like the Silver Eagles have value above and beyond the bullion content.  Indeed, most numismatic coins sell for a lot more than the bullion content [a coin with $x of bullion might sell for $10x or $100x].

    The main determinant of value is scarcity [good ol' supply and demand] and how desirable the coin is [just because it's scarce doesn't mean it's desired].

    Silver Eagles are fairly common [the US Mint cranks out a lot of them every year] so their numismatic premium is generally not that large.  If you go through the examples in the above link, you'll find some selling for 3x bullion and others selling for 60+x bullion [that's an outlier].

    If they are still sealed, they should be in excellent condition:  the "69" likely refers to the MS <Mint State> scale:  MS-69 is darn near perfect.  Here's an example:

    https://www.libertycoin.com/Perfect-70-Grade-American-Silver-Eagle-Coins-s/270.htm

    Are your coins individually boxed like the ones shown on the web page?

    I don't want to get your hopes up with the prices listed there.  First thing is to figure out exactly what coins you have and what condition they're in.  If you can find an exact match on the web page, you at least have a starting point.  Their offer price will be lower but I don't know by how much.  By dealing in volume, you should be able to negotiate a better price.  If you can't find an exact match, you'll have to call them and read off the information on the coin.

    Note that there is currently a squeeze on supply due to mines shutting down and transport of bullion possibly limited; I thought I read that the US Mint had temporarily stopped producing Silver Eagles.  This works in your favor because the demand is higher than it otherwise would have been which means you'll get a better price [smaller spread between buy and sell prices].

    I'm sorry for your circumstances but hopefully this will help out a bit.

     

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 11:52am

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    Silver Eagles

    kathryn askew:  "Find out what the price of ounce of silver is today and sell for that price or a bit over that price."

    This advice is only applicable to junk silver [pre-1965 quarters and dimes] that have no numismatic value.

    The Silver Eagles have numismatic value [in some rare cases, a lot:  I found one selling for $17,500 or > 1000x bullion value].

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 12:08pm

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    Digital Book Burnings

    I have been observing what I like to term Digital Book Burnings over the last few years as certain commentators, who tend to go against the propagandized status quo,  get de-platformed by the likes of Youtube, their entire body of work gone in an instant.

    It's happening again in a big way.. in real time.  Brian Rose runs a channel called, "LondonReal" and for whatever reason he has triggered the authorities recently by letting David Icke speak his piece as it relates to the virus.  His Icke interview has been banned by Youtube, and most recently LinkedIn has completely wiped him out.

    I am not a huge fan of David Icke because I don't think he is discerning enough with his theories.. but he and Brian Rose deserve to be able to speak.  When we see people losing their ability to speak, we all need to be alert and fight back.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcJg-gHj6Q8

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 12:30pm

    adapt-and-overcome

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    Silver Eagles - editorial

    Switching to editorial mode:  in the '08 financial crisis, silver was hammered even more than everything else and got down to around $10/oz.  But it rebounded to $50/oz in 2011, I think.  A good deal of that was likely due to the gargantuan money printing the Fed was undertaking [QEx].

    This time around, the movie is very similar:  silver got hammered [went from $19 to $12] but the Fed has launched the largest QE ever [QE-infinity].  If silver responds like it did last time, it's going higher...a lot higher.

    I'm not a financial adviser so you'll have to do your own research and come to your own conclusions.  I'm giving some historical context and venturing out on a limb as to what could happen next.  Obviously, I could be [very] wrong.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 1:45pm

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    Heck Of an Idea - Japan’s Stimulus Package - Pay For Companies To Move BACK to Japan

    Maybe those millions, billions and trillions should be exclusively for  companies based in America or require their re-patriation? Duh, that makes so much sense!

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 2:38pm

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    Better idea.

    I think a far better idea would be to shut them out completely from our markets and banks.  Let them return on their own or not.  If we embrace liberty and free markets, they would be replaced by better.  No need to put the tax payers on the hook for crony capitalists.   I don't agree with taxing people beyond the bare minimum needed for the least amount of government we can get by with in fulfilling the government's only proper obligation to guarantee our individual rights.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 2:57pm

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    Glitch in the Matrix

    JimH, ya gotta love the glitches in the Matrix.  My favorite glitch was the nose of the airplane actually coming through the other side of the Twin Tower, as shown by  CNN and BBC.

    I found This guy "Ace" (who amazingly is still  on Youtube) only in the last 12-18 months and thus only learned recently that there is no way in this universe a plane could breach and break through the outer 2 3/4" thick metal framing of the Towers.  Can. Not. Happen.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJU55FzcM2A

    Even after almost 12 years of learning/researching 911,  felt like a chump all over again when I realized that no planes hit the Towers.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 3:38pm

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    Planning to have an accident?

    No my dear, international scientist that were working on ‘juicing’ ARI coronaviruses are all keeping very quiet about how they f#cked up. Why?

    The above-linked article by Dan of Harvard House is very interesting. It discusses the hundreds of millions of dollars poured into virus gain-of-function research by the NIH and Gates Foundation, including a $3.7 million grant from NIH to Wuhan Institute of Virology. And it discusses the likelihood that the infectious properties of SARS-cov2 virus are the result of such research.

    With everything we've learned about how difficult it is to contain such virus particles and completely prevent them from doing their "honey badger" act, what are the odds that all this experimentation could take place without any sort of "accidents" ever happening?

    Even if the release of SARS-cov2 was "accidental": it seems to me  that whoever funded this research, was making this "accident" inevitable.

    And it also seems clear enough why it doesn't benefit either the US or Chinese governments, to focus attention on the possibility that SARS-cov2  did not emerge naturally from a wet market.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 3:46pm

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    "Glitch in Matrix" post = hoax

    "No plane hit the towers" is as absurd as "flat Earth"

    Our tax dollars are hard at work associating real claims of scandal with nonsense.  They learned this during the JFK research efforts and now with the internet it's so much easier to spread.  "Anyone can post anything" forums are especially good as a vector for transmission.

    For fun, I recommend the Museum of Hoaxes at www.hoaxes.org

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 5:03pm

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    Mark and Hladini

    I don't think Hladini is saying that there were no planes... at least I don't read it that way.  I certainly cannot find the line you quoted, "no plane hit the towers" in his post.  I am not exactly sure what he is saying.. but it's not that.  The nose cone of a plane is very weak;

    I don't see the point of really arguing over the fine points of whether the planes can puncture a steel frame skyscraper at 500 miles/hour, or whether they needed the help of explosives to do so.. 9/11 was a false flag that needs a fresh investigation any way you slice it.  Clearly the, "no plane" hologram theories were simply noise inserted to confuse, as per Ision.

    More to the point of this nose cone discussion is the hole in the pentagon, especially as viewed in the time after the impact of.. whatever, and before the building collapsed.  The circular hole was counterintuitive in that the part of the plane that carried the most density in metals... i.e. the engines, didn't leave either tracks in the grass, or their own holes in the building.  Odd, right?  Almost like it was more like a missile, and less like a plane.  But that couldn't be, right?

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 7:25pm

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    Redneck Engineer said:

    Let the market sort them out. If the managers gut a company when times are good to milk it fo what they can, there’ll be nothing left when times are bad. A well-run company would have cash to get through a storm like this.

    It’s unspeakably awful, immoral, and (properly) criminal that the government or the Fed should step in to bail out companies that dug themselves into a deep hole.

    Bankruptcy is not a dirty word. A company can go through it and remain in business. It’s the primary shareholders who lose, though, and their creditors. So the bailout is really about defending those folks - their cronies.

    We don’t have a capitalist system, meaning one which respects property rights and a minimal government. We have a welfare state mixed economy since the 1950s, that morphed into a cronyist-socialist state since the late 1980s. If the government ends up buying corporate bonds or equities we will have a fascist state, in the literal definition of a government that owns companies.

    So one of the problems with sorting out this current crisis is getting the root cause right. Yes, it is unfair, but why? It isn’t, as some claim, rich vs. poor. There are plenty of wealthy people who earned their money and deserve it. But those who got rich through political pull do not. The proper divide isn’t rich vs. poor, but political connection: those who have it vs those who don’t, and their ability to steal from those who don’t.

    So long as government has a hand in the economy, those who have close ties to government can use it to take advantage of those who don’t.  THAT is the root unfairness.

     

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 7:34pm

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    Redneck Engineer

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    Tax Holiday

    Here’s a quick, easy way for the government to get cash to the public: declare a tax holiday. Give a 100% refund immediately to anyone who paid income taxes for 2019. If you paid $19,345 in taxes, you get a check (or digital debit to your checking account) for $19,345.

    Simple. Done.

    Then suspend income tax withholding for 2020.

    You say the government can’t do that? It’ll be easier to print money equal to that sum and deposit one check for it into the US Treasury. Simple. Done.

    ”But that will help the rich!” Funny, I thought they didn’t pay taxes.

    This won’t fix everything or help everyone equally. But it will help many people, and quickly, with little overhead costs compared to other ideas. And importantly, it returns money to its rightful owners, rather than steal from Peter to pay Paul.

    if we care at all about property rights and freedom, solutions like these are what need to happen. Otherwise it’s simply a competition for which pressure group has the most political pull.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 7:45pm

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    Redneck Engineer

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    Get The Economy Moving

    What can we do to get the economy moving?

    slash red tape, regulations, taxes, and fees. Make it easier to setup an LLC. Remove licensing restrictions, so someone could, for instance, cut hair in their garage, or offer advice on investing or nutrition or health online. Etc.

    streamline bankruptcy procedures. Cut the costs and accelerate the timeline, so a shuttered business can reopen sooner, or a landlord can lease to a new tenant faster.

    These are things federal, state, and local governments can and should do in an emergency. Then, after, keep those burdens off. They shouldn’t hav been there in the first place.

    this is another pro-freedom solution that’ll help many. The fact that people aren’t talking about this tells you exactly what priority they place on your freedom and your rights.

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  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 7:53pm

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    Redneck Engineer

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    The Coolidge Depression Solution

    Getting out of a depression quickly is not unprecedented, and doesn't require the government printing money to infinity and beyond, or taking away our rights. Take a page from Calvin Coolidge and the 1920 depression. https://www.coolidgefoundation.org/blog/president-coolidges-economics-lesson/

    "Altogether, spending and taxes were cut 50 percent during the 1920s, and about 30 percent of the national debt was paid off. There were budget surpluses throughout the 1920s. Unemployment fell to 1.8 percent, the lowest U.S. peacetime level in more than 100 years."

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  • Mon, Apr 13, 2020 - 12:09am

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    Hoax is on you!

    No Mark, Hiladini  is right,  the Hoax is on you!

    As hard as it is to believe,  because  a  complicit media seared it into our our Amygdala's  through incessant repetition,  and it has been repeated ad naseum throughout the years,   to the point where it is an article of faith and a global institutional ' memory', the footage of the planes hitting the tour is actually faked.

    This does not mean that the airplanes were holograms or any such nonsense.  It means that this was a  layered psyop of incredible sophistication that is best understood as a grand illusion made possible by planned and staged effects and complicit media operatives as sophisticated as the rest of the op.  Like the immediatly availioble prepositioned narrative,  Osama  Bin Laden did it...  New Pearl Harbor... Pictures of the 'hiackers'   etc,  this was as much a media operation as it was a special forces military one.

    Nor, does it mean that there wasn't some sort of kinetic drone or missile strike on the buildings in conjunction with pre designated explosions at the site of "impact"  ialso conveniently the site of the Israeli 'Art project' ... but I digress

    In fact this is a likely scenario to visually  establish "something hitting the building" and as a component to marry footage of the planes into the scene. a drone is also something that is controllable.  actually guiding airliners into the buildings is would be too big a technical risk with the prepositioned demolitions and all the other moviing parts of the operation dependent on getting it right, Twice!

    9'11 happened.   Buildings imploded with the assistance of pre planted explosives, people died,  but  ultimately it was a con,  a Causus Beli structured as a grand illusion to deceive on how who and why.

    The physically impossible 'nose penetrating all the way through and outside the other building is just one of many flaws in the manipulated videos.  In  another video you have a wing disappearing in front of a building, reflections improperly oriented in a car windshield and other demonstrable impossibliites which correspond to well known artifacts in what are  clearly flawed but admirably quickly assembled CGI constructs.

    FWIW  I ran a media production and post production company and am familiar with the techniques involved.

    Now go trace the source of these video's provided to the the television networks complete with interviews of the people who supposedly shot them and you'll find another rabbit hole of mysteries... people who are not traceable or accountable and  in fact don't exist.

    And it was done with a clear objective which we have been able to watch unfold in the Mideast in the 19 years since that day.

    This is only possible because of top level complicity on the part of the media that rolled tape on that day. and because like any magic trick, the illusionist was our misdirecting our attention and leveraging our assumptions and the way the brain processes information and costructs memories.    At this point everyone has an indelible memory of the the planes hitting the towers,  but it is an artificial construct.

    If you want to understand the motivations of the complicit media, you need to take look at the key players (ownership and top level management structure) in all of those media outlets and how their zealous allegiance and interests align with the perpetrators. and by perps I'm not talking about Osama and crew.

    Mark,  I suggest you suspend your assumptions and disbelief. Chase down some compilations of the video 'anomalies' and their analysis and try to look at this in a new context.

    mm

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  • Mon, Apr 13, 2020 - 1:29am

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    The new normal

    Dr. A. S. Fauci – Uncle’s Bill’s sockpuppet
    CDC – Uncle’s Bill’s sockpuppet
    WHO – Uncle’s Bill’s sockpuppet

     

    “Errrgh… vaccines… the world needs vaccines. To get back to any kind of new normal vaccines… we’re going to need vaccines… Vaccines… No one can continue business as usual or relax the shutdown as coronavirus could linger another 18 months or so, until we have a new vaccine…”

    “Digital immunity…. Yes Digital immunities… we will all need those certificates to implement any kinda return to normal... for all the worlds citizens…”

    “Depop defrag 2.0… Yeah to get C02 numbers right down, right down to zero… Depop. We need to reduce global populations… vaccines, sterilising vaccines…”

    A modern day Mengele needs to be stopped in his tracks right now.

     

    Fact: 2002 MenAfriVac campaign in Sub-Saharan Africa, Gates’ operatives forcibly vaccinated thousands of African children against Meningitis, approximately 50 of the 500 children vaccinated developed paralysis.

    Fact: 2010, the Gates Foundation funded a phase three trial of GSK’s experimental Malaria vaccine, killing 151 African infants and causing serious adverse effects including paralysis, seizures, and febrile convulsions in 1,048 of the 5,949 children.

    Fact: 2017, the WHO reluctantly admitted that the current global explosion in polio is predominantly the vaccine strain.

     

    Please sign the petition

    https://www.change.org/p/facebook-take-down-stop-mandatory-vaccinations

     

     

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  • Mon, Apr 13, 2020 - 4:13am

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    Chris is mentioned in video.

    Chris is mentioned in this nice video on the origins of the CCP Virus. https://srvyv.com/2020/04/07/1st-documentary-movie-on-the-origin-of-ccp-virus-tracking-down-the-origin-of-the-wuhan-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR3-uSIvnpZfQtPrUpoKJElo3axuxzDZscnpiKTHHzFWLr1fJQU9sfl2oj0

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  • Mon, Apr 13, 2020 - 10:36am

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    Only As Safe As Our Neighbors

    Chris, I appreciate you continuing this conversation. In terms of what to do, my mind keeps going back to something you said a very long time ago on this site, which is that we are only as safe as our neighbors. Unfair is certainly one way to put it. Immoral is another. Unsustainable is a third. Kind of reminds me of what Rev Barber is saying for the Poor People's Campaign. He is calling for a new economy and a lot of what he has said resonates for me with what you and Adam have said about being able to live authentically and with dignity.

    The illusion that the vast majority of us are not poor is just that, an illusion. My 2 month stock of food (or 6 month or 12 month) isn't going to bring the systemic change that is needed to restore ecosystems, revive the insect populations, or replenish the plankton in the sea. Our land is impoverished. Our water. Our air. Our food supply. Our medical system... You or I may not be poor in the same way someone living on the street is poor, but how secure are we actually? When the bailouts go instantly to the corporations, as you point out, at the same time I read recently that something like 50% of households in the US will wipe out their savings by the end of this month.  Without a broad and diverse movement to challenge the entrenched ways of doing things, what chance do we have? What about an interview with Rev Barber?

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  • Mon, Apr 13, 2020 - 10:59am

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    Beckett Bennett said:

    Good points yahasjai.

    Isn’t it Interesting that the national narrative is -

    • you must be quarantined to protect the elderly and your neighbor
    • we are insisting upon this because - we the government “care so deeply for you
    • it’s for your benefit and the greater good

    The people are believing this narrative.  IF the government REALLY cared about the people then WHY

    • do politicians have 100% health coverage for life - and you?
    • through no fault of their own are people’s jobs terminated, savings depleted, rights revoked and freedoms eliminated with no recompense. Or at best a pittance after much difficulty
    • Was there a preponderance of evidence that the Plandemic was coming last fall?

    Do we really believe that the government cares how many people die?  If not what do they care about?

     

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  • Mon, Apr 13, 2020 - 11:19am

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    Your place....

    I would posit that this government cares not a whit about the welfare of you or your family.  It is concerned about your proper placement and functioning in the machine, however.  At least at the the federal level.  Local conditions may vary....Aloha, be well, Steve

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  • Mon, Apr 13, 2020 - 11:25am

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    The grand revelation....

    Chris & Adam’s PP site I came to after reading Kunstler’s – Long Emergency back in 2005, and realising the looming impact of Peak Oil and limits to growth would be inescapable to a mid 40 year old.

    (It was an epiphany moment)

    Though I’d had the privilege of a middle-class upbringing, including international schooling, and by the Noughties, though successful in a niche field for some decades… I’d come to realise I was like a dog chasing my tail into ever decreasing circles.

    And then I found out it was a rigged/stacked game… and loosing had been factored in.

    I cashed out of my dying, devaluing trade… and moved into another field of employ – now killed too by this current, utterly terrible ‘engineered’ crisis.

    It is indeed difficult to get transparent honesty from any supposedly genuine media channel - for sure, but recently I came across Thruthstream. Their documentary O B S O L E T E… is so well worth the view time.

    It neatly connects into the Crash-Course narrative and why something was always going to spook/break the system for the 99%

    We are most definitely at the knife-edge cross-roads. The Chinese people may rebel against their CCP elite suppressers?

    Ditto when the food shortages bite into the USA, UK and EU zones there too the natives may get very restless, the façade behind the magicians curtain finally clear to all.

    Disaster Capitalism – well we know how that plays out?

    Sadly this very bumpy ride is only now getting truly started.

    Good luck all.

     

    BTW, I’m not an anit-vaxxer.

    I just think it should be a voluntary decision – not a mandatory carrot/stick forced one.

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  • Mon, Apr 13, 2020 - 11:56am

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    Galene77 et al

    Gates gave WHO 10 Billion dollars?  What was he buying?


    8:50 minute mark

     

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  • Mon, Apr 13, 2020 - 11:56am

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    good videos for the new gardeners in our group

    good basic information for the south

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQIPSniAbJQ

    for the dry west

    https://mynortherngarden.com/

    for the northeast

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO562X5QN8Q

    in the northwest

    https://extension.oregonstate.edu/gardening/vegetables/growing-vegetables-pacific-northwest-coastal-region

    on the plains and mountain west

    https://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/top-crops-north-central-plains-rockies-zmaz09amzraw

    Some ideas to get started...

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  • Mon, Apr 13, 2020 - 12:11pm

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    One for Galene

    This guy Shiva is awesome... must listen.  He calls out Gates, Fauci.. all of them, with great authority;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86VJlhw0DQQ

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  • Mon, Apr 13, 2020 - 12:34pm

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    government caring--oxymoron

    As far as I can see, the main concern of all governments is staying in power. Anything that looks like caring or concern is only there to help the top 'leaders' and their 'important' backers retain their power and positions.

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  • Mon, Apr 13, 2020 - 12:40pm

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    Testing Codes = statistics

    Dr. Shiva makes a good point.  Every patient had to have digital codes input into the system so TPTB can track everything.  It a person has multiple diseases and the viruses is suspected as a contributing factor their death is counted as a virus death.  What number are they trying to reach?  How many have to die before they can mandate you do not have a right over the say-so of your body.  How many Americans have a backbone.  And don’t tell me vaccines save lives.  When vaccines became a for-profit commodity your life stopped mattering and profit became paramount. Besides its not the governments job to protect you from everything including yourself and provide you with everything.  Unless your their pet or slave.

    Our descent into abject slavery and poverty sucks.

    So glad there are others here that aren’t so willing to bend over that barrel.

    Granny

     

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  • Mon, Apr 13, 2020 - 4:20pm

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    Chris' newest video, "A Second Route of Attack!" (4/13/20)

    NEW RESEARCH: Coronavirus Has A Second Route For Attack! (4/13/20)

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  • Mon, Apr 13, 2020 - 5:54pm

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    Saved!

    Thank you for saving me JimH!

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  • Mon, Apr 13, 2020 - 6:16pm

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    Planes or No Planes? Confusion is the Name of the Game

    Mark2, I really thought planes hit the towers for 18 years.  Only recently have I seen the evidence (I’m trained as a litigator to recognize good evidence) that there is no way in this universe a plane could have pierced the outer metal cage of the Towers.

    I’m not sure how old you are, but if you’re my age you used to watch the cartoon Road Runner  and the Wiley Coyote.  The planes entering into the metal Towers, and actually leaving a frame of the wings in the Tower building?  That's Road Runner kind of graphics.

    An aluminum plane cannot pierce metal thicker than an armoured tank – no matter how fast it’s going.  It’s a math equation/physics equation.

    Not sure if you’ve got extra time on your hands, but if you do, check out Pilots for 911 Truth and then Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth.

    Trust me, one discovery will lead to another.

    I'll leave you with a question.  Just because you saw it on TV, does that mean it really happened?  Remember, we're in the Twilight Zone or..... ahem.... The Confusion Game.  (thanks Ision & Company, I mean Community)

    Cheers.

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  • Mon, Apr 13, 2020 - 8:04pm

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    We should not argue about planes or no planes

    The vast majority of people still live in a twilight zone where building 7 fell down due to, "normal office fires".  We could easily go off on tangents all day debating whether the earth can turn into some kind of unique viscoelastic substance that swallows planes whole (Shanksville), whether cell phones worked at 30,000 feet (Shanksville), why the second plane that hit the second tower looked like a gray military plane, etc., etc.

    The false narrative machine is operating again, today, right in front of us.  At least one part of the operation is focused on suppressing the truth about the efficacy and proper application of hydroxychloroquine.  The point is to keep us scared, keep the economy shut down, continue (as with the last three years) to make Trump look bad in every way possible, etc.  Let's call them on the current operation.

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  • Mon, Apr 13, 2020 - 11:58pm

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    Time2help

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    Unwinding

    5 million views in the first 3 days. Approaching disclosure?

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  • Tue, Apr 14, 2020 - 1:20am

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    Hard to know where to start

    Hello, our President Macron addressed us last night. I had to move around the room - not wishing to focus on his face - my wife (French) closed the door - couldn't stand listening to the dismemberment of France and our way of life - La Joie de Vivre.

    Although the Joy of Life is not dead - we have our work cut out for us! Macron visited Dr Didier Raoult in Marseille - presumably to discuss the results of IHU Méditerranée Infection.

    https://twitter.com/raoult_didier/status/1249428036765638662

    Perhaps Chris could use this result to explain its significance.

    Y axis: ratio of deaths for patients admitted in the hospital versus the cumulative number of patients admitted for the virus

    X axis: the cumulative number of patients admitted for the virus

    On average for France 13.5% admission for COVID-19 die (not the same as the flu!)

    The blue dots are for each "département" (area) - les Bouches du Rhône is the area which includes Marseille which is influence by the work of Dr Didier Raoult. As of this morning, April 14th, they show hospitalisations 2628 with 10 deaths. Something does not add up as for the entire département Bouches du Rhône they are showing 7% of hospitalisations leading to death. In sum at 0.05% the death rate is SIGNIFICANTLY better than any of the other areas in France.

    Sorry for that - but important to say Macron made no mention of HCQ+ as a treatment but only pointing towards an eventual vaccination. Please refer to post#1. He made reference to apps to come - that they would debate in parliament. That we have to live the confinement until May 11th - even then restaurants, bars, cafés, will not open. He was vague at best, talking in platitudes and in the most shocking way - his speech resembled - could have been written by Robert-Hugh Benson Lord of the World written in 1907.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_World

    One thing I feel very sure of is that this "fléau" has been designed to hide the financial misdoings of the last several decades which the FED is trying to cover the burning fires with a wet blanket. They think that They will get away with this - so did the Nazis.

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  • Tue, Apr 14, 2020 - 5:43am

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    Crisis outline timeline, since last summer…

    Oh the heady...care-free days of last June, boy did no one see this ground shift crisis coming...

    June 2019: Having cut the CDC’s budget three years running, Trump makes a State Visit to London, and finds himself seated next to Karen Walmsley, CEO of the GlaxoSmithKline pharmaceutical conglomerate. GSK has a broad portfolio and innovative pipeline of vaccines to protect people of all ages, supplying over 735 million vaccine doses per day to people living in over 160 countries.

    August 2019: The US military team sent to the Games in Wuhan last year trains close to the army’s germ-warfare laboratory at Fort Detrick. Immediately after their departure, Fort Detrick is abruptly closed. Over many decades, it has been found guilty of exposing US citizens as unaware guinea pigs to its products.

    September 2019: The US team arrives in Wuhan and stays at a hotel eighty yards from the market identified as the location of C19 Victim Zero. Within days, several team members complain of feeling ill, and three are hospitalised.

    October 18th 2019: World Economic Forum meets at Davos, and is treated to a modelled ‘coronavirus catastrophe’ sponsored by the Gates Foundation and hosted by the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. It predicts deaths of 65 million worldwide. Gates in particular is voluble about the lack of preparedness among sovereign States.

    November 2019: First rumours of a ‘killer virus’ in Wuhan being covered up by Beijing. Three key US CDC advisors removed from Wuhan.

    December 2019: Alarmist Western media reports of ‘millions dead’, ‘Chinese being welded into their homes’, ‘death rates of 10%’, ‘no immunity gained and high rates of reinfection’. President Trump confides to an aide that he thinks the virus “…is a hoax being perpetrated for commercial gain”.

    February 2020: Bill Gates starts to take centre stage, says the key need is for more testing, tracking and immunisation – in which, spookily, he is already heavily invested. Trump says Hydroxychloroquine has a strong track record of C19 management. Barrage of press fake data scoffs at his claims. Didier Raoult in France claims excellent results, US FDA rubbishes his claims. Other medics produce similarly positive results. Trump asks White House meeting why the FDA is still sitting on Hydroxychloroquine approval.

    Late February 2020: Long data series analysis shows three big ‘leaps’ Corona has made through C19: it is incredibly easy to become infected by it, it has a long incubation period, and is infectious while showing zero symptoms. If one wanted scary infection rates and a central need to track and test, this would be the perfect virus to bio-engineer. Several US, French, German and Asian researchers beg to point this out. They are ignored.

    Early March 2020: Le Monde reports on a massive robbery of Hydroxychloroquine supplies from the French health-drugs warehouse. La Dépeche follows it up, including sensational interview with Didier Raoult. The site world-o-meter keeps a daily tab on cases, recoveries and deaths, all of which contradict the models produced by Davos and Ferguson.

    March 2020: Neal Ferguson delivers alarmist report on COVID19 threat to UK Cabinet, produces abrupt change of strategy to that of Macron in France: lockdown. Significant numbers of senior medical ranks attack lockdown in favour of Herd Immunity, question media ignorance re Hydroxychloroquine. Sweden rejects lockdown in favour of herd immunity.

    April 2020: Bill Gates hogs the media limelight globally and talks of a ‘new normal’ in which everyone will have to prove immunity through implanted data, and have their movements traced 24/7. Emmanuel Macron announces new G5 phone App that will trace every movement of every French citizen. For once, the French media express alarm at the idea. British ONS and AMA seasonal death-rate data show no spike in fatalities versus previous years.

    (cribbed from Wards/Slog)

    PP'ers know what’s coming;

    1. A social credit system
    2. Mandatory vaccination
    3. Digital currencies only… and
    4. Universal Basic Income (UBI) for the 99%

    Meanwhile in Ohio the natives are getting restless:

     

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  • Tue, Apr 14, 2020 - 6:08am

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    MMT-based critique of Taibbi

    I read this article this morning critiquing some of Taibbi's points from an MMT perspective, and find myself trying to avoid my own biases and solidify my own options on MMT (whether they be counter arguments or not) by paying close attention to the basis of either side of the argument, particularly as it applies to COVID-19 pandemic response.

    The article is here:

    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2020/04/what-richard-vague-says-that-matt-taibbi-our-acrophobic-champion-for-the-duration-of-the-covd-19-crisis-needs-to-learn-about-stratospheric-levels-of-public-debt.html

    A summary, with a contrary note of my own italicized below.  Looking for the thoughts of others here:

    Excessive Private debt matters more than excessive public debt, so fed needs to do more to support the economy, and it won’t necessarily be a problem.

    Fed assets as a percentage of GDP are not overly large [relative to other first world economies], and has headroom to increase.

    Interest rates consistently head lower as public debt increases, rather than vice versa

    • Until confidence in the currency starts to recede

     

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  • Tue, Apr 14, 2020 - 8:04am

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    This seems to have been removed already

    https://robinwestenra.blogspot.com/

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  • Tue, Apr 14, 2020 - 8:13am

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    Direct from the horse's mouth

    https://twitter.com/raoult_didier/status/1250012448578551810

    I draw your attention to the question asked at the 9min25:

    Do you have any new information about the toxicity of the HCQ+ZPAC?

    We have seen with our cardiologist friends some cases that they prefered that we not use this treatment - so we did not treat them. That did not represent many people but was not worth the (trouble) to take unnecessary risks and secondly regarding the 2.600 patients that we treated - there was no problem - that starts to be an important number of cases treated.

    Here around the 10th minute I particularly like his simple (and efficient) way he treats the subject. I underline that it used to be that way in America - something has gone dramatically wrong with "American know-how". If you think I'm trying to piss you off (so you spring into action) you are RIGHT!

    He starts talking about the way politics crept into the way the virus was treated - he holds up a chart with industrialized countries and their poor results. He then talks about Asia and Africa saying they don't have any stigmatisation about taking a simple pill which doesn't cost much.

    10min28 Moi ce qu'il me frappe

    That which shocks me in the present situation is that the present mortality in the richest countries is much more "important" (higher) than either in the Orient (some of them are rich) or in the poorest countries and one ends by asking 'are the new types of medication' - have they become an advantage or an inconvenience (disadvantage). Manner of saying the people in Africa don't have alot of choice so they don't ask alot of questions before taking Paquenil and Az - it costs them next to nothing.

    Tandis que - While in France there is a struggle, extremely brutal against the usage of these medication simple and non-expensive - which I don't know if this has consequences on the mortality in France, but it is a good question, nevertheless when you see the level of mortality at Marseille compared with other localities in France with a population and a state of epidimity comparable - one can frankly ask oneself some questions - like whether it is better to take an old medication which works or new medications which we are not sure they work (or not) - and that we know that they have complications and very important secondary effects.

    He had been making light of the fact that if he was an advisor to Sanofi - comparing the results in the stock market he was doing a poor job versus Gilead a rival - that he should have been ditched.

     

    If you appreciate the translation - please give me a thumbs up - at least that way I have a feeling that I have not wasted my time.

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  • Tue, Apr 14, 2020 - 8:27am

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    Gold versus Stocks

    IMO we will soon see why it is so important for TPTB to knock down Gold and Silver every day - like there was some sort of competition with Stocks.

    I figure it must be MUCH MUCH more than just a beauty contest. And They don't want you to know why!

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  • Tue, Apr 14, 2020 - 9:03am

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    Galene77: CCP is blameless

    Galene77-

    You did a masterful job interweaving "the CCP is blameless" storyline with western conspiracy theory.  Its what I've come to expect from the pros across the (eastern) pond.  They are really good at this sort of thing.

    Too bad that the virus came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

    But really.  Nicely.  Done.  It took you 16 posts to get to the denouement.  That took a lot more setup than the usual straightforward propaganda post.

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  • Tue, Apr 14, 2020 - 9:16am

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    to Time2help

    I watched the entirety of the OutofShadows video and I can honestly say I have never been so frightened in my life. I am still processing the information to form coherent thoughts. I always knew, in an understanding-with-no-facts way that the elite class held all of the privileges (the little man goes to jail for embezzling $50,000 and the rich get off scott-free  for embezzling millions.) To visualize a truly secret society that preys on the innocent is sickening. How the hell can this be fixed?

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  • Tue, Apr 14, 2020 - 9:23am

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    Dave, this is a very tangled web that has been woven

    There is just so much smoke here.. I don't know how anyone can see through it clearly.  George Webb is suggesting that newly released documents from China show that the US (Fauci and Co.) funded some of the bat virus amplification stuff going on in Wuhan.  I listened to it in the car this morning but have not looked at any of the linked doc's myself.  In any event, George thinks this info. release is meant to show that, while China played the bioweapons game, they were not the one's to release it.  He sees it as China coming clean.  George thinks the, "bad guys" in this story are Iranian.  Again, I don't know what to think, other than the US and China were both playing with this stuff, and that Covid-19 appears to be the result of bioweapons virus amplification research.

    George Webb from today;  China Admits Engineering CoVID-15/SARS For USAID/Thousand Talents Program/PREDICT Program $375M Grant

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK5WRNQOcGg

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  • Tue, Apr 14, 2020 - 9:23am

    David McKenney

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    Listen to this Doc

    https://youtu.be/kXfqKRoTiaQ

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  • Tue, Apr 14, 2020 - 9:35am

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    out of shadows

    Some thoughts.

    First, it would seem as though any and all participants in such a scheme would be extremely vulnerable to non-US security service blackmail.  I'm thinking of both Russian and CCP security services.  If this was a real thing, and it was really this extensive, those foreign services would have for sure uncovered this, and they'd own all these people lock, stock, and barrel.

    Who knows, maybe that's true.  It could explain globalization, for one - why we gave all our industry to China over the last 30 years.  Seems like a terrible idea, but, that's what happened.  And why no US president before Trump ever got tough with China in any meaningful way.

    Second, when I was looking at the Podesta Emails, back when Wikileaks released them, there sure was code in there.  100%.  Not sure what they were talking about, but it definitely was code.  I encourage anyone to go read the source documents for themselves.  This video was not making this part up.

    Third, this might explain just why the US establishment has such a hard-on for Assange, why they want to string him up by his thumbs.  Assange probably knows way, way too much.  And curiously, Trump either can't, or won't, get involved.  Curiously.  And so the extradition proceeds.  The UK court handling the extradition appears to be just as totally owned as the US prosecutors working the extradition.

    Lastly, I will observe that transparency fixes everything.

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  • Tue, Apr 14, 2020 - 9:52am

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    CCP coverup

    Jim-

    The fact pattern I read in this shows clear signs of a coverup by the CCP at the Wuhan Institute of Virology - dead in the area of bat coronavirus research.  Simplest explanation is most likely correct: lab accident, virus released, people died, and the CCP worked double-overtime to try and cover it up, rather than solve the virus problem.  Was it engineered?  Who knows.  But probably not as a bioweapon - it is just too lame for that.

    I could go into chapter and verse but it would be too long of a post for me to write.

    CCP is desperate to make everyone believe that they were blameless victims.  Given their track record of lying about literally everything, I'm not about to believe them in any particular.

    Occam's Razor: lab accident => CCP coverup to save face => CCP owns the whole show.   Intelligent people may differ, of course, but this is my belief, based on things that I've seen, and my understanding of the groups involved.

     

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  • Tue, Apr 14, 2020 - 12:01pm

    Galene77

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    It took you 16 posts to get to the denouement…

    Not at all Dave, you conveniently ignored/left out my cribbed in (brackets)

    Cribbed = To plagiarize an idea or answer, for example.

    Though you are entitled to hold of course any opinion on what I post. Amen to that.

    So, do I think a random bat flew down into a major Chinese city was netted by a snack retailer, bit some Pangolins was then killed and sold as a wild animal treat in a Seafood market?

    Nope.

    It’s most likely gain-of-function engineered, and did get accidentally released from a lab.

    Which one, there are two in Wuhan? Though who was financing the research, global corporate interests, the USA, or CCP? Bat woman herself Shi Zhengli, during 2014 worked on juicing bat coronaviruses in joint research with the University of North Carolina.

    So you see… there are many players that do weave into this unfolding crisis story.

    Caveat emptor

    As always who benefits will give clues to how this rumbles. Will it be the military-industrial complex plus Davos elites… if the 99% is finally rolled over to servile pethood?

    Ditto if a new war with China or the MENA regions flares again who benefits? Pretty much the same group.

    Finally, do I think these elites are all Satanists involved in endemic paedophilia? Nope I don’t buy that either. Did Epstein film and compromise some elites. Yes most likely.

    Indeed, he didn’t kill himself… and yes Assange will likely be a Covid-19 victim which will be terrifically neat and tidy.

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  • Tue, Apr 14, 2020 - 12:23pm

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    My apologies if someone has already brought up this article...

    but if I read all PP posts these days my gardening would suffer. : )

    The article: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-state-department-cables-warned-potential-sars-pandemic-after-visiting-wuhan-lab

     

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  • Tue, Apr 14, 2020 - 5:57pm

    Hladini

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    PizzaGate

    Time2help,  thanks for sharing this video.  Now I understand what PizzaGate is.  Had no idea the disgraced, first class journalist was behind it.  BTW,  I worked as a research assistant in my last year in law school and learned that journalists have the most dangerous jobs.   I hope this lady is taking precautions.

    Does Ision want to comment on this video?

     

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  • Tue, Apr 14, 2020 - 7:07pm

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    conspiracies to make fake claims of conspiracies to discredit actual

    There was foreknowledge in the Cheney White House the attacks were coming.  Wargames simulating actual events during the attacks. But there is also a conspiracy to make fake claims of conspiracy to discredit skepticism of the official story.

    Building 7 was the first time another skyscraper fell onto another skyscraper, gouging a huge hole on the south side.  (Hint: every engineering firm on the planet looked at this and the twin towers collapses, it is fortunate the towers stayed standing as long as they didn, which lowered casualties.). There is zero doubt the plane crash in Pennsylvania happened (whether it was shot down or not is unanswered).  There is also zero doubt the planes that hit the WTC and Pentagon were the ones that were hijacked.  The rank and file responders pulled the plane parts and bodies from the rubble and they were not part of Cheney and Rumsfeld's scheme.  Fuzzy video on the internet years later doesn't count.

    Similarly, with corona, there is the hoax that 5G is supposedly involved even though South Korea has lots of 5G and few cases.  My guess is the 5G industry started this hoax and now objecting to 5G (I oppose 5G) has one looked at like a Flat Earth covidiot.

    The powers that be did this in the aftermath of their removal of President Kennedy from office, but the internet makes this much easier and faster.  I would have been surprised NOT to see various hoaxes floated with the pandemic - it is their M.O. for spreading confusion.  I've run into virus deniers locally who have contempt for virologists.

    Our society suffers from Moron-a-virus, which makes dealing with coronavirus worse than it had to be.  Just because someone says the government is lying does not mean they are telling the truth.

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  • Tue, Apr 14, 2020 - 10:01pm

    skipr

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    fake claims

    I still remember mainstream news reporting on someone claiming that the WTC1&2 jets were actually holograms, and that was on the day of 911.  If you want to discredit a serious inquiry you just have to promote an absolutely ridiculous story over and over.  What's really scary is that a lot of people will actually believe it.

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  • Wed, Apr 15, 2020 - 2:21am

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    Mark2, on the Irony of your certitude

    Mark2

    Your point that perpetrators sow disinformation and confusion with outlandish conspiracy theories to discredit actual conspiracies by  association is correct. The hologram story regarding the planes is a case in point.

    However it would be much stronger (and less ironic)  if you made  your point without referencing demonstrably false and ludicrous assertions that embrace the official story (lies)  of collapse of the towers and building 7, the Crash in Pennsylvania and the pentagon etc as a base line for legitimacy.

    It appears that your acceptance of conspiracy around 9'11 extends only to that there was fore- knowledge by Cheney /Rumsfeld and contemporaneous real world drills that somehow facilitated the attacks but otherwise you embraces the rest of the official story (ie. Arabs with box cutters and  beginner lessons in Cessna's  brought down three skyscrapers into their own footprints  with two airliners.and made a small hole in the ground in which an entire plane disappeared with nary a trace of wreckage.)  all of which could arguably classified with  your preferred descriptor "moronic"

    (Hint there are plenty of Engineers, physicists, pilots  and scientists including on this forum that have called bullshit on all of that and have shown with physics, chemistry and metallurgy  how those things were impossible and ergo false.  This has been debated and discussed ad nauseum here at PP in multi year threads.  I suggest you go through the evidence and cases made there before you bring your ill informed yet strongly  felt. assertions of 'fact'    I have no desire to reopen that discussion or debate as it has been done to death here.

    As to the video of the planes, it is is very clear on the video that the nose goes all the way through the building.  This is quite simply impossible.  The video is not fuzzy but rather it is your logic that is fuzzy in dismissing this data point in order to conform to your existing belief system.  But even that dynamic,  regarding the nexus of emotional beliefs and cognitive dissonance etc  has been discussed and analyzed here as well.

    mm

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  • Wed, Apr 15, 2020 - 2:58am

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    a reasonable man

    Galene77-

    You started your post, entitled

    Crisis outline timeline, since last summer…

    with the following line:

    Oh the heady…care-free days of last June, boy did no one see this ground shift crisis coming…

    Then there was a long timeline, which basically was the CCP shift-the-blame narrative, with some new US-conspiracy wrinkles added in.

    At the end, you mentioned briefly, in italics:

    (cribbed from Wards/Slog)

    A reasonable man would assume that you would only post a timeline (either cribbed, or created de novo) that you agreed with, especially if you didn't include something that qualified the post, such as, "Here's a ridiculous timeline that is basically the product of CCP disinformation that I don't agree with at all!"

    Since you didn't include any such qualification, that's why I concluded you were in support of said CCP disinformation.  That's what a reasonable man would infer.

    I am a little confused though.  I thought the CCP gave up on the-US Army-infected-us line a while back?  Perhaps there's a different faction within the CCP that still wants to go that direction.  I saw conflicting messages: one from Ambassador Tiankai, and another from the foreign ministry.  What is your sense from where you sit?

    I'm getting the idea that things might be unraveling over there for President for Life Xi.  That's the rumor.  Only time will tell, of course.  But he's had a really bad couple of years.  First the Hong Kong debacle, then the Taiwan election, and now this pandemic disaster.  Sending out faulty masks was probably not the best move.  Any thoughts on that?

    Looking forward, I see a near-complete US decoupling, for strategic industries, over the next 3-5 years.  That probably won't play well either.

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  • Wed, Apr 15, 2020 - 11:46am

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    why is Ireland doing so much better than the UK slowing COVID19?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/14/coronavirus-uk-ireland-delay?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX1RoaXNJc0V1cm9wZS0yMDA0MTU%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=thisiseurope_email&utm_campaign=ThisIsEurope

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  • Thu, Apr 16, 2020 - 10:10am

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    Your daily glimpse of the "unfairness" economy


    [OC] Richest people in the world since 1997 from dataisbeautiful

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