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    Strong Inflation, Weak Sentiment, Spikes for Everyone!

    Market Update 13 August 2021
    by davefairtex

    Sunday, August 15, 2021, 12:27 PM

Commentary

Producer prices (PPIACO) looked unpleasant for July; +1.18% m/m, +19.79% y/y. That’s the largest increase since 1973-74. But don’t worry; Powell tells us it is transitory. It was transitory back in the 70s too – but the “transition period” lasted about 8 years, resulting in prices jumping from PPIACO=40 to PPIACO=100. Now that’s the way to wipe out obligations – 150% inflation over that time period. Note: inflation is a wealth transfer – from savers and pensioners, to those who own the underlying assets of society. Who might that be?

The buck plunged [-0.56%] on Friday, at least half-driven by an unexpectedly bad Consumer Sentiment number; 81 expected, but 70 was the actual. Numbers in the 70s hint at recession. Consumers really don’t like inflation. In spite of the mild candle, the buck appears to be entering a downtrend. It also might be a lower high.

Gold closed up on the week +17.78 [+1.01%] after an exciting Monday, which saw a $90 trading range, and a brisk -1.8% plunge. All of the gains occurred on Friday [+1.55%], resulting in a highly-rated reversal bar. Gold’s OI dropped by more than -11k (-1.08%), which is a fair amount of cash-register ringing. I’d say this is all a positive sign for gold.

Silver looked weaker, ending the week down -0.62 [-2.54%]. Monday’s smash was fairly large [-3.7%], and unlike with gold, silver struggled for most of the week. My guess: this was caused by a large rise in silver’s OI during this week’s action: +6k [+3.80%]. Unlike with gold, there was no cash-register-ringing – in fact, banksters added to their shorts, which probably helped to push prices lower. While the candle looked pretty good, I believe the price of silver is definitely being “managed” by the banksters. [FD: I’m long silver.]

Crude mostly just chopped sideways this week, ending up with a positive-looking candle print, but still in a downtrend.

Equities moved higher [+0.71%] which was a new all time high for SPX. Crappy debt was mostly unchanged, while bonds moved a bit higher – the bond gains coming on Friday [-7.6 bp]. Bonds are now back in an uptrend – which means an interest-rate downtrend. So the bearish reversal for DGS10 (see below) is actually bullish for price. Much of Friday’s 10-year move came following the bad Consumer Sentiment number at 10 am. That’s a flight to safety, which runs counter to the “rising interest rate” t(and/or “money printing will be stopped soon) hypothesis from last week, as well as the inflationary PPIACO this week. Which one is correct? No idea.

Maybe – recession-inflation? Is that possible? It would suck to be a bondholder.

Here’s my thumbnail of where the overall economy stands:

  1. A significant number of people are being paid not to work. So being pragmatic, they aren’t working.
  2. As a direct result, prices of lots of things are rising, due to rising labor costs. So Oligarchy (temporarily) pays people not to work, and prices rise, hosing the savers and anyone on a pension. Due to the CPI gimmicks, the COLAs of the pensions never keep up with actual prices.
  3. This engineered wage-price inflation is being called “transitory” by Powell. But as long as you pay people not to work, inflation will probably remain.
  4. People don’t like inflation – hence the bad consumer sentiment number, which hints at an impending recession.
  5. There is hope, however. The US is importing a vast new workforce – approximately 2 million new non-English-speaking workers per year, over the southern border. Maybe they can be the new workers – (don’t call them “slaves”, you racist) – while Oligarchy temporarily pays actual Americans not to work. With our money, no less!
  6. And to add to the fun, there’s still an eviction moratorium in place. Rent payments are for suckers. Of course, the landlords are still required to pay the mortgage on their rental properties. If they can’t – well – Blackrock will be happy to pick up the property (at a discount!) in foreclosure. It can borrow money at 1.2%! Blackrock (and – more importantly – the Stakeholders screened from public view) win!

News Items That Caught My Eye

Where to begin?

Supremes said (thanks ACB) that universities have the right to mandate shots – that don’t prevent infection or transmission – for young adults who receive no benefit, but can still suffer injury from them. The concept: “go elsewhere”. But if you are a continuing PhD student, its tough to just “go elsewhere” without having to repeat years of study. Seems to this non-legal neophyte that the University’s contract with the student is being unilaterally changed mid-stream by the University, with the student having no recourse. No matter. Shots In Arms, because, Pandemic!

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U.S. Asks Taliban to Spare Its Embassy in Coming Fight for Kabul

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U.S. calls on OPEC and its allies to pump more oil

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Alex Berenson: “Uncle Joe’s new foreign policy: begging.”

And: “America will no longer be a world superpower; a handful of countries will dominate.”


Should kids wear masks in school? These states have banned mandates despite experts’ pleas

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Which “experts” would that be? “Science!!” experts, who by definition are always correct – thats just how Science!! works. In spite of almost zero risk to children for a severe COVID outcome, and even Osterholm saying that cloth masks are useless (and that we need N95s!), masking children remains a primary Oligarchy goal. How is that going? Four states/territories have school mask mandates: DC, CA, HI, and PR. Twelve do not: NH, MT, SD, UT, AZ, OK, TX, AR, TN, AL, GA, FL The irony of thousands of COVID-positive migrants being shipped all over the US, per day, at our expense, while our Science!!-overlords insist on “masking children.”

Call this a victory for the US Federal system design. Thanks, (racist!) Founding Fathers!


AAPL provided more details in how they are going to Save the Children using machine learning. Instead of scouring all pictures on all iPhones everywhere searching for kiddie porn, AAPL is just going to apply the machine-learning kiddie porn detection system (MLKPDS?) on phones that have “iCloud Photos Libraries” enabled. So it sounds like you can opt out, at least in Version 1, if you don’t use iCloud Photos Libraries. That’s a relief.

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Left unaddressed is the known ability of various state, as well as non-state actors who are able to hack any iPhone using a collection of IOS zero day bugs. If “someone” doesn’t like you much, you could well find your iPhone “somehow” opted-in for iCloud Photos Libraries, with you sharing a whole bunch of newly-downloaded kiddie porn. “Those aren’t my pictures!”, you scream, as they drag you off to prison. “Who knew all those Insurrectionists liked Kiddie Porn so much? Bless AAPL for Saving the Children.”

Likely, this is the thin edge of the wedge. It starts with Saving the Children. Next up: “stopping medical disinformation.” And then finally: stopping pictures of ‘Pooh’ alongside Chairman Xi. Tech stays the same, just the “directory of bad pictures” changes.

Value-add to you and me of owning an iPhone with this hackable, entry-level social credit “feature”? Best case: no benefit. Worst case: ten years (or more) in the Big House. Complain? You must like kiddie porn. Which is, of course, why it is the first use case.


Extended rent moratoriums and the slow distribution of billions in federal rent assistance are driving many small landlords to call it quits.

“Multiple landlords have told me they are selling out,” Jon Frickensmith, president of the South Wisconsin Landlord Association, told The Epoch Times. “They ask us how to get out of the business and how to get the tenants out of their houses. These are mom-and-pop operators, the kind of landlords that are willing to take tenants with bad credit or a criminal history. This will only add to the housing crisis.”

The National Equity Atlas estimates that landlords across the United States are owed more than $21 billion in overdue rent.

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This is a middle-class-to-Oligarchy wealth transfer construct. Once “enough” mom-and-pop operators are forced to sell on the cheap, you can bet that we will never see an “eviction moratorium” ever again. The Blackrock representatives in Congress will see to it. My mother was a teacher, and she invested her life’s savings building a mom-but-no-pop rental business. She borrowed the purchase price from the bank, paying it back over 20 years using rents from the (3) tenants. Most of them paid. Some did not. She had to pay the bank regardless. Of course. She just broke even in the first decade of this “operation” and it took a lot of time to run. It did better in the next 10, mainly because of inflation. It was the work of a lifetime of saving. Now Oligarchy wants Mom’s asset for itself. Oligarchs gonna oligarch.


Benjamin Mason Meier, a global health policy professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, said it will be difficult for businesses or some agencies to verify whether a card is real. After New York City officials last week announced it will require restaurants, cafes, bars, theaters, and gyms to verify whether a customer is vaccinated, it’s not clear how a small business would enforce such a rule and verify that a vaccine card is authentic.

“The United States, unlike most countries which have electronic systems in place, is basing its vaccination on a flimsy paper card,” he said. “There needs to be policies in place for accountability to make sure that every student is operating in the collective interest of the entire campus,” he said of universities.

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Lots of fake, flimsy paper “vax cards.” I wonder if the professor is advocating – to “fix” this “problem” – a secure electronic-health-record-social-credit-access-to-transport-permitted-to-work-and-spend-money-and-perhaps-even-vote device of some sort. Because: “public health.” Ya think maybe?

Completely unrelated: in 2020 alone, BMGF provided $19.1 million in funding for UNC Chapel Hill, with $6.4 million for “Global Health.” Whenever I see the words “Global Health”, I always think of one guy – a “Mr G” in BMGF – who really likes to fund this sort of “Global Health” thing worldwide.

And I heard Ralph Baric worked at UNC Chapel Hill also. Good friends with Bat Lady Shi, if I recall correctly.


#SARSCoV2, #COVID19, spike protein, [vax]: they’re all one-in-the-same bioweapons designed to rattle the homeostasis of de novo (i.e., tryptophan to NAD+ & flush niacin to NAD+) NAD+ biosynthesis (upon which your immunity, health, bioenergetic/thermodynamic equilibrium is anchored)

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Dr Kats tweeted this hypothesis about the “health goals” of this lab-leak pandemic today. I’d summarize it as, “Spikes for everyone. More spikes are better!” For Kats, the spike protein (either from the virus, or from the shot) is a bioweapon designed to throw as many people as possible into a state of niacin (NAD+) deficiency – with the acute viral phase killing those who are already in a severe state of deficiency. Based on the paper below: 10-30% of previously-healthy COVID survivors will get knocked into a state of chronic NAD+ deficiency, which will make them weak, depressed, anxious, scared, unhealthy, and even more dependent on the on-patent Pharma/sickcare cartel, due to the S1 proteins getting stuck in monocytes – for months and months – causing inflammation wherever they go. That’s my interpretation of the paper below:


I don’t have proof yet, but like Dr Kats, I’m guessing the vaccine-generated S1 – engineered to be more durable than the one from the Fauci-funded lab-leak virus – also gets eaten by the monocytes, and those S1s then get stuck in (non-classical) monocytes for months also. And “boosters” serve to assure that there will be a constant supply of new, stuck S1 proteins for the fortunate vaccinee, so the NAD+ deficiency (theoretically) just never ends.

This is a purposeful construction. According to Dr Kats.

Spikes for everyone. More spikes are better!

“Submitted for your approval.”

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  • Sun, Aug 15, 2021 - 1:51pm

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    hail

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    Thanks Dave

    Thanks Dave

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 12:15am

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    Longest US War (ever) Finally Over

    Hey Dave,

    Thanks for posting that link to the plaintiff plea for the Taliban to spare our embassy. (Any bets how that will turn out ???) Who could have predicted that nearly 20 years later, $trillions misspent, and countless casualties decrepit and/or deceased, the Afghani war would finally be ended with absolutely nothing meaningful accomplished?

    I Honestly have to give credit to Biden for pulling the plug. Unknowingly, he did a wonderful thing. For the last 19+ years, Generals knew that the Afghani Army would fold like cheap cards to the Taliban ... but didn't want to have the failure ascribed to their personal names. As a result, they committed many more countless American lives and countless $ to fight this worthless war - a war to hide the real cause of 9/11.

    That's what passes for "leadership" anymore.

    Grover

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 12:22am

    Mike from Jersey

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    Replying to Longest US War (ever) Finally Over (#2)

    I feel for the Afghan people.

    I am sure a number of them did not know history and bought into the propaganda. They thought that Washington was committed to them.

    I am sure others understood full well where this was leading but could not get out of Afghanistan before the inevitable unfolded.

    And I believe that this is more than the repeat of the disaster around the abandonment of Saigon. I have a feeling that the next victims of Washington's incompetence and indifference to human suffering will be the American people themselves.

    I have already made expatriation plans. It is just damn hard to pull the trigger and leave.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 12:47am

    Grover

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    End The Nonsense In The Sandbox

    Mike,

    Please don't think that I'm a callous, unfeeling person concerning the senseless war in the sandbox. I've been advocating for years that it needs to end - because it never should have started. It was a "biggly huge" mistake to send troops over there. I abhor those who continue to throw good money after bad to keep from realizing their mistakes. That's what passes for leadership anymore. Since Biden has cognitive diminishment, he was the ideal fool to do the right thing. (Irony abounds.)

    Most people don't attribute the real cause of the 9/11 debacle to the right source. Most don't know the physics that explains how difficult it is to have a building collapse in its own general footprint - yet we had 3 WTC buildings do exactly that. Most follow the propaganda that 19 Arab hijackers with box blades were able to orchestrate all the mayhem. If so, shouldn't their death in the conflagration have been enough to atone for their actions? Nope. It was played up. We bought into it and thousands of young, military people paid the price.

    Most Americans agree with the mainstream media and our "so-called" leaders who want to blame the Taliban/Arabs for this transgression. Because of the Taliban extremist views, they are simply convenient scapegoats who actually accept their position. Ironically, it furthers their cause.

    It's a dance that needs to be ended. The next phase is up for grabs.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 3:23am

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    A tough place to conquer

    Interestingly, Afghanistan is a country that even The Romans failed to conquer, They lost some 50,000 Roman soldiers there. It's been a whipping post for every country that has tried to wield control over it.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 6:58am

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    afghanistan: a problematic quagmire

    I recall reading this exact same thing back in 2001 when we invaded.

    "Gosh, this place has been 'problematic' for invaders in the past."

    But not for us, of course.  We're different.  We bring civilization and democracy!  [And $trillions for the Defense/Industrial complex.  What's not to like about that?]

    Hubris - and profiteering - set to maximum.

    Distantly related-

    I knew a guy who was an officer in the UK's "Gurkha Rifles", which has deployed to Afghanistan a number of times.  He told me stories of what the force called: "Gay Thursdays" - also - "man-boy-love-Thursdays", nicknamed bacha bazi.  It is pretty horrific - widespread, institutionalized, long-term child molestation.  The rich/powerful pick young, poor boys, and recruit/coerce/enslave them for Thursday-evening parties, dancing, and sex.  [Male-female interactions are strictly regulated in "conservative" Afghanistan.]

    Some details in Wikipedia which have yet to be "cleaned up":

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

    The Taliban made this practice illegal.  Kind of.  It came back after the US "victory" in 2001.  There was a report at the UN - later removed - still available at archive.  "Dancing boys" is quite the euphemism.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20190408020332/https://www.unric.org/en/latest-un-buzz/29091-the-dancing-boys-of-afghanistan

    In 2009, the UN tried to raise awareness of the issue, but Afghanistan is a highly conservative country, where homosexuality is taboo, heterosexual relations are strictly controlled and bacha bazi has deep cultural roots. "If as much attention went into bacha bazi [as women's rights] I am sure you would see a difference, but no one speaks about it," said an analyst who asked not to be named.

    My sense: if you try to strictly regulate sexual activity in human society through some artificial overlay, unintended consequences often occur.  Think: "celibate" Catholic priests.  And "celibate" Buddhist monks.  And all-male prisons.  The Royal Navy.  (Churchill: "Naval tradition?  Rum, sodomy, prayers, and the lash").  And "conservative" Afghanistan.

    https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/1782969/temples-no-longer-safe-for-children

    https://oxford.universitypressscholarship.com/view/10.1093/oso/9780198759973.001.0001/oso-9780198759973

    A quagmire.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 7:51am

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    Dr Kats

    Who is this Dr Kats? He seems extraordinarily sure of himself. Do any others support his theory?

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 8:16am

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    dr kats & niacin

    Dr Kats was my introduction to niacin.  He studied at UNC Chapel Hill, got a PhD in epidemiology.  Wrote his thesis on dementia & cancer - inactivity, smoking, all sorts of interesting conclusions.

    Early on, he said niacin cured COVID.  I wasn't so sure.  But I tried it.  And did a lot of research.  Niacin (NAD+ precursor) really is a key compound in the body.  While NAD+ is more complicated than just niacin, it is one key component.

    The RDA for vitamin D is criminally low.  We've known this for a decade.  Nothing was done about it.  Likewise, the RDA for niacin is also - criminally low.  Less is known about that.  The sicker the population is, the more money Pharma makes.

    No Treatments For You is not a new concept.

    Is Dr Kats correct about his bioweapon thesis?  Well,

    the virus was created in a lab.
    the vaccine companies used the very component (the spike protein) that later turned out to be toxic
    the very reputable and experienced Dr. McCullough also calls this combination a bioweapon also - phase 1 = covid, phase 2 = vaccines.

    https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/06/24/dr-peter-mccullough-reveals-the-covid-19-vaccines-are-bioweapons-and-a-cdc-whistle-blower-has-confirmed-50000-americans-have-died-due-to-the-jabs/

    Dr Peter McCullough reveals the Covid-19 Vaccines are Bioweapons and a CDC whistle-blower has confirmed 50,000 Americans have died due to the jabs

    NAD+ deficiency - which causes a whole wealth of weakness, disease, and unhealth.  Pellagra is acute NAD+ deficiency - the 4 Ds = "diarrhea, dermatitis, dementia, and death."

    My guess: niacin (NAD+) sufficiency in later years means no dementia.

    The reverse is most likely true too: widespread niacin (NAD+) deficiency, brought about by a pair of bioweapons, will bring about the opposite: a dramatic increase in dementia - symptom #3 of pellagra - niacin (NAD+) deficiency.

    It is too soon to tell if this is true or not.

    But we did see quite a similar thing during the AIDS epidemic, prior to anti-retroviral medicines.  I could drop the papers on you, if you are interested.  AIDS appears to be mostly about NAD+ deficiency.  Which niacin seemed able to address.  And NAC too, curiously.  Though the niacin thing was buried rapidly.  The researcher who wrote this paper (below) was recruited by Pharma into a totally different area.  Now Pharma makes thousands/month for HIV antiretroviral treatments.  For life.

    http://www.innovativetherapies.org/biblio4.htm

    I think there's a pony in there.  If you want to keep a large population under control during (say) a massive wealth-transfer power-shift away from Democracy into techno-fascism (Science!!) such as The Great Reset, wouldn't it be better to have the population weaker, sicker, unhealthier, more tired, more depressed, anxious, and fearful?  Strong, clear-thinking, tough and healthy people would be far more dangerous.

    Hypothetically speaking.

    "You'll own nothing.  And you'll be happy."

    I believe the first part.  Not the second part.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 8:44am

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    Poppies

    Don't forget the poppies. While we ruled Afganistan, the farmers were allowed to grow poppies. which is where heroin comes from. When the Taliban took over areas they burned the poppy fields and took out any farmers that grew them. It is only a coincidence that the US has had an opiod epidemic for the last twenty years.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 8:56am

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    Thanks!

    Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I appreciate the offer of the AIDs papers but have no time at the moment.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 10:40am

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    Chapel Hill NC?

    Dr Kats was my introduction to niacin. He studied at UNC Chapel Hill, got a PhD in epidemiology.

    It seems to me that UNC Chapel Hill is figuring large in the Covid saga with several of the key players in the GOF research being connected to that institution. How ironic that Dr. Kats did his research there as well. What is it about that place? The coincidences seem weird to my curious mind.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 11:12am

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    UNC Chapel Hill

    I just went to look.  BMGF gave $143,652,432 to UNC over the past 21 years.  That's a bunch of money.  $7,179,199 for 2020.  Most of it under the label: "Global Health."

    When I see someone saying something in an article, and the words "Global Health" come up - I immediately suspect they are funded by BMGF.  That's because this label is plastered over so many of the grants they've issued.

    In fact, these days, when I see any article written that's critical of something (like ivermectin, etc) that might interfere with the Holy Shot rollout, I go and check to see if the "expert" being quoted is associated with an organization that's listed in the BMGF grant document.

    So far, I'm batting 1000.

    It is definitely ironic that Dr Kats graduated from there.  One that hasn't escaped him either.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 11:26am

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    More on Dr. Kats

    Dave and I spearheaded the initial due diligence on Dr. Kats contentions regarding Niacin.  Dr. Kats was also aware of the odd, counter intuitive correlation coming out of early Covid-19 hospital stats which showed smoking as being protective.

    Dr. Kats is a man child who is in the process of growing up.  One year ago his position was that Niacin was all that you need.. nothing else.  Niacin is it!  Now if you look at his page he has a protocol that includes lots of co-factors (as it should) including melatonin.

    His failure to understand that he and Dr. Kory are both on team reality is very frustrating.  He rails against doctors who prescribe Ivermectin and tries to make the case that they are telemed grifters.  Sad.  Anyway, for folks like myself, DaveF, and many of us here.. he's always a good read and you just have to filter the good from the bad in his twitter feed.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 11:28am

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    Afghan poppy fields

    Also remember the Karzai brothers were big warlords who funded their operations thru poppy farming.

    I had some veteran friends about 10 years or more ago who used to tell me stories about how they were assigned to security details covering poppy fields for months on end.

    Talk about some disillusioned vets. These guys wouldn’t go into great detail over combat, but I was let know that some of their fellow soldiers were injured in skirmishes guarding those fields.

    Can you imagine answering the call against terrorism only to become a narco security force?

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 11:35am

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    Prison Song

    Afghanistan produced 70% of the planet's opium before 2001.
    After the U.S. occupation, they produced over 90% of the planet's opium.

    This was pointed out to me by a colleague several years before the opioid crisis.

    + Military Industrial Complex
    + Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex
    + Prison Industrial Complex

    Mission Accomplished!

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 11:39am

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    Stephen Thomson said:

    It just so happens that I spoke to Dr Kats this morning for almost 2 hours and I took my first dose of melatonin and nicotinic acid 30 mins ago. I came on to watch Part 2 of Chris's recent presentation and just happened to spot this post.

    I posted a question about Dr Kats on this facebook group last night https://m.facebook.com/groups/416179869477953/permalink/515220736240532/?ref=m_notif&notif_t=group_comment_mention. If anyone's interested you'lll see the discussion there and my update following my chat to him this morning.

    I paid $100 for a video call with him and I my impression is that he's a really nice guy who knows the science inside out and is extremely frustrated at being suppressed for so long, as most of us can probably understand and appreciate.  He could have ended our call after 30 mins as that's all I'd understood I was paying for, but we chatted for almost 2 hrs and we only ended the call because I had kids to tend to. So at worst I'm sure his heart is in the right place and he's not just out to make money from people. He also sent me some articles  after our call in support of some of the things we discussed.

    In terms of his protocol, he recently cut back on some of the supplements he was recommending and inserted melatonin. In my case he recommended 20mg of melatonin and 1000mg of Nicatonic acid, taken together, 3x per day. My first dose was to be 12mg/550 which I just took and I'm having some flushing but not much. He says that the melatonin and nicotinic acid ameliorate one another's negative side effects, meaning that when I go to 20/1000 for my second dose onwards, I shouldn't feel much of a flush at all due to the increased melatonin. He believes that the addition of melatonin will make for a more permanent cure to the condition and  from the 20 or so people he's treated since he changed his protocol, he's had complete success. I'm no scientist but his underlying reason is along the same lines as Dr Patterson's insofar as he believes the cause of LH symptoms is vascular inflammation, but he believes the issue is a depletion of melatonin and niacin in the body during the acute phase of the disease. His protocol seeks to replenish and "reset" levels of both, allowing the mitochondria to function correctly. He has a lot of detailed explanation on his twitter handle @niatonin.

    What is impressive is that he expects me to be fully recovered within a week and if I'm not fully recovered within 2 weeks then he'll refund the cost of my call with him this morning, which is pretty encouraging.

    I've been researching various long haul protocols over the last several weeks (I'm over 2 months into LH) ranging from Dr Bruce Patterson's IncellDX approach to MCAS approaches by Dr Tina Peers, aswell as autophagy and ivermectin approaches. I also joined a LH cannabis group, although I haven't researched that yet.

    So as I write this it's been just over an hour since I took my first dose of each drug and I can feel the flush fading away, as mild as it was. I feel confident now that I can increase for my next dose and repeat that 3x per day.

    If anyone is interested  I'll happily update you here on how I get on with it, although I'll be doing the same on the facebook page linked above if you want to follow there too. By way of reference, my symptoms are racing/thumping heart rate, brain fog, general fatigue (like a hangover each day), occasionally shakey hands or slight numbness in my hands and feet. I have the feeling of being detached form those around me at times when my symptoms are bad, but generally I'm able to function around the house ok, though exercise is a non-starter as it just causes a spike in my symptoms that evening/next day. Thankfully the anxiety and depression I experienced in the acute phase haven't been an issue during LH. By the way, don't  let anyone tell you as I was that "you're just getting yourself all worked up" if you have anxiety during covid  - it's very much a physiological symptom of the disease and doctors are now starting to realise that as more and more respected doctors who've had covid are reporting the same. For me, I had 3.5 weeks of acute symptoms which disappeared almost overnight, including the anxiety and depression, which then returned overnight a week later, at about 70% severity of the acute phase and without the anxiety/depression.

    While melatonin and nicotinic acid are the focus of his protocol, he does recommend other supplements in some cases, especially for those who have been dealing with LH for longer than I have, so if you're interested and you can afford the $100, I think a chat with  him is money well spent. Hopefully within a week I'll be able to share good news about my progress, and thereafter even better news that I'm cured, once I've tapered off the protocol.

    I hope that's helpful info for anyone on the LH bus and if there's another thread/channel you think this info should be shared then please  feel free to do so.

    I really appreciated the help I received from this group during my acute phase and it would be great if this protocol turns out to be a cure for LH. Even if it's just a really effective treatment, it could restore some quality of life to many while we await something more permanent.

    Steve

     

    PS If anyone else has been following his more recent protocol (specifically Melatonin AND Nicotinic acid at the same time) then I'd love to know how you're getting on with it.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 11:48am

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    Steve, please keep us posted!

    Thank you very much, Steve. Please do keep us updated!

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 12:00pm

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    Pharma at Research Triangle Park

    Big pharma moved into RTP during its expansion in the 1980s and developed ... influence .... over the faculties and research at UNC, Duke, and NC State (the "Triangle").  NIH had just established a large campus there.  Now all strive together to implement "The NIH-RTP Master Plan" which "will assure an environment on the campus that is conducive to accomplishing the NIEHS mission and will provide a physical framework for evolving NIEHS and NIH biomedical research programs. " 

    Expect ongoing surprises from this clusterf**k

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 12:19pm

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    this is what I like to see

    Thanks for everyone weighing in on the end of the line in Afghanistan.

    It really makes me happy to see the old-time liberals talk about this sort of thing.  That's why I posted the Afghanistan story.  We really are all in this together.  This is the kind of suspicious, question-authority/imperialism/defense-policy attitude I saw as an undergrad when I was studying political science.  I miss it a great deal.  It certainly isn't present on CNN.  Or any other MSM channel I've seen.  They're a bunch of fake-liberals.  A thin veneer of "fake-woke" that doesn't quite cover their die-hard support of Imperialist Eternal War policies.

    What else would you expect when they snuggle up to the CIA, NSA, and FBI?

    Here's a wild thought: could it be that the Taliban has a point to some of what they do?  Not the part where they bag all the women and keep them locked up like birds in a cage, that's really obnoxious, but - some of the stuff they do does seem reasonable.  And they sure seem to have popular support.  Otherwise they wouldn't be walking into every one of those cities without a struggle.

    I mean - is "self-determination" a thing anymore?  Is the US a "light on a hill", or must we continue to "bring democracy to the world" - where "democracy" actually translates into "regime change" with the goal of exercising de facto control over ever more resource colonies at the expense of the locals ability to determine their own fates?

    Is my question "right" or "left"?  I'm not sure those words have meaning anymore.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 12:32pm

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    So complicated

    I have lost a family friend killed in Afghanistan, and in my work at the VA hospital have cared for multiple traumatic brain injury and other injuries of vets wounded there.  Terrible human tragedy for idealistic young men and women who went there with the highest of aspirations to defend America and fight for freedom.

    Catherine Austin Fitts points our that the $billion US dollars of the opium trade funnels through western banks.  (There, it can be loaned to the oligarchy to purchase shopping malls, rental houses, etc. in pursuit of the goal of consolidation of ownership of everything of value in the oligarchies hands.  "Your will own nothing.")

    But, the "conservative" Taliban did not believe in using drugs or alcohol and squashed the trade as they came to power in the 2000 - 2001 time frame, burning opium fields and demanding farmers plant food crops.   Fortunately, for US banks, the US military was able to "liberate Afghanistan," late in 2001 and instal, a US selected president (and his brother to the cabinet position where he controlled opium trade),  and restore the flow of opium to western nations.  [Edit:  Was that the Karzai brothers?]

    pappy wrote above:

    Also remember the Karzai brothers were big warlords who funded their operations thru poppy farming.

    .

    Figure is small:  Hard to see the drop opium production in 2001 with this image.  Source is here.

    Global Research writers note that the US lead reconstruction efforts in Afghanistan helped to improve the irrigation systems and roads used to boost opium productivity among the Afghan farms and the Drug Lords who hold feudal control of this tribal land.

    Noteworthy "friendly fire accidents" where Afghan CounterNarcotics agents (Afghan governmental forces which pretend to try to stamp out opium production) forces were "accidentally" bombed by the US Air Force have been reported.  See article my Meryl Nass, MD.

    And, the Caspian basin (right in the middle of "the 'stans) holds the worlds largest reserves of natural gas.  (From a lecture by David Ray Griffin.)

    And the global strategist, and advisor to presidents, Zbigniew Brezezinski, in his book "The Grand Chessboard" advised that the key to winning the Global Chess Game for world domination was to hold the central squares on the board which lie in central Asia.  Included the 'stans, and especially Afghanistan.

    Afghanistan separates China, the arch rival and the worlds biggest oil importer, from the oil fields of Iran and Iraq.

    So the whole thing is just complicated as sh*t.

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    And one joke to offset the grimness:   TSA would not let a lady with knitting needles onto an airplane as they were afraid she would create an Afghan.  Yuk yuk.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 12:43pm

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    Shining City on a Hill

    That quote came from Reagan, the original MAGA man. It's an empty slogan.

    Reagan was a Dubya. Physical flaw left him stateside for the duration of his military service. So he comes with the veneer of the Greatest Generation, but with none of the sacrifices. He was a charlatan who made us feel self-important and good about ourselves, at best.

    The Taliban were a CIA pawn in his time as well.
    Meet the new president of Afghanistan.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 12:59pm

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    Impressive...

    Average NPCs just don't notice things like trigger discipline.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 1:02pm

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    TWalker5 said:

    I admit I haven’t followed the niacin part of the story, though I recall it being mentioned here before. But niacin is simply vitamin B3, a nutrient in which people are not commonly deficient.  Does Kats argue that we should be getting amounts far above the RDA?  Is there a good short summary of his thesis available?  And is he a lone wolf on this or are there other reputable sources also on the niacin bandwagon?

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 1:37pm

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    Brothers Karzai

    I could speculate and write about the Karzai clan for days, but I won't. Below quote comes from wikipedia, but it sums up the family:

    Hamid Karzai has six brothers, including Mahmood Karzai and Qayum Karzai, as well as Ahmed Wali Karzai, deceased, who was the representative for the southern Afghanistan region. Qayum is also the founder of the Afghans for a Civil Society. Karzai has one sister, Fauzia Karzai.[108] The family owns and operates several successful Afghan restaurants in the East Coast of the United States and in Chicago.

    Just poke around the interwebs a bit and see how well paid and connected each of these guys are to the US intelligence world.

    FWIW - and I don't have more info other than some anecdotal stories, my wife's cousin worked for the state department post 9/11.  He was on Hamid Karzai's security detail prior to him becoming president of Afghanistan.

    He has told me that Hamid was a huge target for assassination and many US citizens died protecting him.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 1:48pm

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    Kats Protocol

    Definitely thanks for the details on the new Kats LH protocol you are using.

    I've been taking Niacin (1000 mg) plus melatonin (8mg) at night for a few months now.  Its quite benign.  I add TMG too.  Niacinamide during the day.  I don't have a long haul condition - I'm taking it for other reasons.

    I am strongly in favor of his experiments.  He may not be right instantly, but he isn't shy about adjusting things as he finds new evidence.  His substances are - from what I can tell - all very benign.

    [I agree with JimH about him mistaking FLCCC as his enemies, which they are not.  But I suspect "the flush" scares people too much, so the docs may be reluctant to prescribe large doses.  People now aren't as tough as they were in the 60s.]

    Specifically, niacin appears to do the same thing ivermectin does for the inflammation - it changes the M1(inflammatory) monocytes into M2 (non-inflammatory) monocytes.  (This was seen in a number of parkinson's patients - at just 250 mg/day for one month.  What must 1g/day do!).  And the monocytes with the S1 proteins stuck in them are running around in that M1 state, causing all sorts of trouble.

    Here's something I got from Patterson - for the long-haulers, he is using CCR5 antagonist Maraviroc (not a cheap substance) plus something else for interrupting the CX3CR1/fractalkine pathway, all in an attempt to get those monocytes to stop causing trouble and go away.

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.25.449905v1

    Another thing that appears to do this same job: curcumin.  Cheaper, for sure, but not-well studied.  Needs piperine for bioavailability.  I take 500 mg 2x/day for neuropathic pain relief.  n=1.  Curcumin also does the M1 -> M2 repolarization too.

    Also helps for stroke.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 1:57pm

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    city on a hill

    Turns out the "City on a Hill" line came from something a guy 2000 years ago said in a talk he gave to a big crowd.  People have repurposed it ever since.

    “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.” 

    From what I recall, there was a debate during the 1830s-40s about whether America should run off and install "Democracy" in Latin America, or if we should remain a "City on a Hill" and act as an inspiration only.  This debate is what I was referring to.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 2:01pm

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    US government is increasing EBT by 25% -- Verifying super high inflation

    Biden Administration Admits Food Inflation Massive, Will Permanently Increase Food Stamp Payments 25 Percent and Expand Program

    A 25% increase to EBT seems crazy. Or not? Not american don't know how it works.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 2:18pm

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    hyper inflation

    let me get this right.  So, to counter the effects of hyper inflation by printing off money to no end, we are going to print off more money to no end?

    Someone, please feel free to check my math.

     

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 2:21pm

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    not deficient?

    Twalker5-

    So we are as not-deficient in B3, as we are not-deficient in vitamin D.  Same concept.  Similar bad outcomes.

    Consuming only the RDA of niacin "is associated with" an accelerated decline into dementia in folks > 60.

    https://jnnp.bmj.com/content/75/8/1093

    If you don't want to be senile, then you might consider consuming more than 16 mg/day above age 60.  Just like you might consider getting more than 800 IU of vitamin D during the winter in high latitudes, especially if you have dark skin.

    The 4 D's of Pellagra (niacin deficiency): "Dermatitis, diarrhea, dementia, and death."

    • Dermatological: Dermatitis that is typically a rash along the C3/C4 dermatomes (broad collar rash), and also on the face and extremities especially the parts that are normally exposed to the sun
    • Gastrointestinal: nausea, vomiting, constipation, diarrhea, and glossitis
    • Neurological: headaches, dementia, hallucinations, delusions, delirium, depression, ataxia, seizures and peripheral neuritis
    • Death if untreated.

    Do we have a dementia problem in the US?  6.2 million, last I saw.  If we upped RDA to (say) 100 mg/day, would that get rid of the problem?  I dunno.  Maybe half of it?  Based on that study, above.

    But FDA just approved Aduhelm.  It costs $56,000 per year.  And it doesn't work.  I'm sure it will be "standard of care" pretty soon.

    Just like Remdesivir.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 3:06pm

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    Alzheimer's = Diabetes #3

    Recent research points to glucose starvation in the brain as being the cause of Alzheimers.  Type 3 diabetes

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 3:41pm

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    OK so why is the US leaving then?

    This thread has been a great rehashing of America's adventures in Afghanistan and as we can see there are all sorts of strategic reasons for the occupation.

    But then why leave and why leave now?  Out of money?  China demands it?  Need military elsewhere?

     

    Kunstler's latest is on topic and wonderful as usual:

     

    Strange Days Ahead

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 3:47pm

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    Replying to Kats Protocol (#25)

    Hi Dave do you take the niacin + melatonin together at night? or the niacin at some time during the day? Optimal time would be? Also have you heard anything about taking niacin + ivermectin at the same time? Thanks.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 3:50pm

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    D vs B3

    Thank you, Dave.  It is relatively common knowledge in the health world, at least amongst those other than walking dispensaries, that 1) the RDA for D is woefully low and 2) even at that low level roughly half of Americans are deficient. I have not heard either of things about niacin. If you look at NHANES data you’ll find that going by the current RDAs we are quite deficient in a few micronutrients, with D being at the top, but niacin is not on that list.  You’ve given me some new research to do to see if there is credible evidence of the RDA being too low.

    https://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/micronutrient-inadequacies/overview

     

     

     

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 4:35pm

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    Friedrichs_teeth said:

    Neat tables showing percent of Americans low on micronutrients ingested compared to EAR (estimated average requirement - - which are much higher than RDA). Lots of high percentages. D, E, A, magnesium and potassium are all above 50% (we only consume less than half of what we need) .They say that almost all Americans consume too much salt. I (just to be different) often have low sodium on my blood panels. And I salt everything.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 8:20pm

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    ooh good one

    But then why leave and why leave now? Out of money? China demands it? Need military elsewhere?

    What an excellent question!

    I'm going to pick: "China Demands It."

    Perhaps due to: "10 held by H for the Big Guy."

    Really excellent question!

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 8:21pm

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    Sand puppy

     Taliban did not believe in using drugs or alcohol

    I trust that these Abrahamic monotheists also eschew caffeine? In the interest of consistency.

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 8:49pm

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    davefairtex said:

    Twalker5-

    I think niacin RDA might be fine for a happy 12 year old.  But as we age, and as stress (or underlying conditions) increases, the NAD demand increases - and supply either comes from dietary TRP / 60, or from dietary NA/NAM.  Not enough supply => pellagra-like symptoms, including depression and anxiety.

    How much additional NAD is required due to all those senescent cells floating around in an inactive 60 year old?  5x as much?  I'm sure we could do an experiment and find out.  But the findings could lead to an entire chain of discoveries which might end up injuring the future ROI of Aduhelm.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-11-chronic-inflammation-reduction-nad.html

    Publishing in Nature Metabolism, researchers at the Buck Institute have identified chronic inflammation as a driver of NAD+ decline. They show that an increasing burden of senescent cells, which is also implicated in the aging process, causes the degradation of NAD via the activation of CD38 (cyclic ADP ribose hydrolase) a protein that is found on the cell membranes both inside and on the surface of many immune cells.

    "No Niacin For You!!" (*)

    (*) Ok fine.  16 mg/day.  To prevent "pellagra".

    Also see: intermittent fasting (for autophagy), and Quercetin (downregulating CD38)

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 9:25pm

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    Jason said:

    And the lithium:  https://www.mining.com/1-trillion-motherlode-of-lithium-and-gold-discovered-in-afghanistan/

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  • Tue, Aug 17, 2021 - 12:22am

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    this is what I like to see Reply to #19

    Dave,

    Just this as a reminder:

    Afganistan papers reveal US public were misled about unwinable war           

    Hundreds of confidential interviews with key figures involved in prosecuting the 18-year US war in Afghanistan have revealed that the US public has been consistently misled about an unwinnable conflict.

    Transcripts of the interviews, published by the Washington Post after a three-year legal battle, were collected for a Lessons Learned project by the Office of the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (Sigar), a federal agency whose main task is eliminating corruption and inefficiency in the US war effort.

    US Public..........Mislead--has a familiar ring to it.  Before the Washington Post became a truth teller, it and other mainstream media helped sell the US Government lies.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/09/afghan-papers-reveal-us-public-were-misled-about-unwinnable-war

    Sure relieved government authorities are being honest and forthright on all things SARS-CoV-2

     

     

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  • Tue, Aug 17, 2021 - 10:22am

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    "What is it about this place?"

    Here's one:

    Bat Cave is an unincorporated community in Henderson County, North Carolina and is part of the Asheville Metropolitan Statistical Area. Named after a bat cave located on Bluerock Mountain (also known as Bat Cave Mountain), it is largest known augen gneiss granite fissure cave in North America and is a protected area, not open to the public

    source

     

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  • Tue, Aug 17, 2021 - 10:33am

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    What happens when we get to the ξ-variant?

    I'm guessing we'll skip that one because, you know, it might be (or look like) an embarrassing coincidence.

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  • Tue, Aug 17, 2021 - 11:02am

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    Friedrichs_teeth said:

    I had to copy that greek letter and put it into google. It is apparently the 14th letter: Xi. Thanks for the laugh. I did not Xi that coming.
    ξ

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  • Wed, Aug 18, 2021 - 7:13am

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    Stephen Thomson said:

    My understanding is that the biochemistry involved is more complicated than "just B3". Nicotinic acid (the flush variety) is involved much further down the NAADP pathway than Nicotinamide for example (no flush variety) and therefore it's crucial to his protocol that the flush variety is used. There's a lot of info on his twitter page where he's posted many articles explaining the logic behind the protocol and why melatonin and niacin being taken together and in a specific ratio is key, together with studies suggesting that melatonin is safe in much higher doses than the protocol requires, including one where people took 1000mg of melatonin per day for months and showed no adverse results. Other studies show high I won't try and explain it further for fear of butchering his analysis, but that's the jist of it as far as I've understood it.

    In terms of my own progress on the protocol, I am on day 3 of the protocol and day 2 of taking 20mg of melatonin and 1000mg of nicotinic acid together, 3 times per day. I flushed the first couple of times but nothing major and it has worn off ever since. As for the melatonin, I haven't felt drowsy during the day and it hasn't really affected my sleep either positively or negatively that I can tell. That's coming from someone who, when taking melatonin in isolation, would feel groggy the next morning after just 3-6mg of it. Taking it with niacin clearly mitigates the drowsiness as he promised. Now I just have to wait and see if/when I start to feel better. As always DYOR but so far I've not experienced any adverse symptoms.

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  • Wed, Aug 18, 2021 - 7:39am

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    Stephen Thomson said:

    That's great to hear that you're doing ok on a variation of Kat's protocol, I hope it's helping your condition.

    I'm also not sure why he sees FLCCC as the enemy and I'll ask him about that when I call him in a few days. I think highly of the FLCCC gang and I find it heard to believe their heart is in anything but the right place. If I had to be critical as someone having followed their protocol, I'd say that it does involve a LOT of different medications. As  ICU specialists, they are used to  being in the role of firefighters in terms of patient care, so it makes sense that the drugs in their protocol are each there to fight  the various symptoms we face with LH. Whereas Kats is trying to go right to the root of what causes all the symptoms and reverse the negative processes  triggered by covid in the first place from the bottom up. I'd 100% want  the FLCCC at my back in the acute phase, but for LH Kats and Dr P are my best hope for now of actually  curing the condition, if that's even possible. Dr Ade Wentzel too - apparently he's cured over 500 people as of June, with no relapses.

    FWIW the "something else for interrupting the CX3CR1/fractalkine pathway" that Dr P is using is statins IIRC. I think the hope is that it interrupts the pathway and some other process I forget, which together will eventually induce apoptosis in the offending spike-carrying non-classical monocytes and allow them to clear out of the body, giving a permanent fix.

    I had understood that Maraviroc, Ivermectin and statins were the main drugs he's using but from speaking to others who've had their lab results  and subsequent consultation, he's not always prescribing the statins and there are one or two other dugs he's prescribed, depending on what cytokine levels are high in each individual. So it's very much tailored to the lab work.

    Until finding Kats, I thought that Dr P's analysis of what's going on and his treatment protocol made the most sense - CCR5 antagonist to stop the mobilisation of the monocytes on exercise, Ivermectin for the inflammation plus pathway blocking (I forget which), Statins for encouraging apoptosis and preventing the monocytes from sticking to the vascular wall via fractalkine. Job done. Now though, I'm equally convinced by Kats, and even the MCAS approach makes complete sense, although I'm no scientist and much of Kat's explanation to me went over my head a little. I'll just have to wait and see what works. Perhaps they will all offer solutions but form different angles. I'm hoping it's Kats or Dr P because the MCAS protocol looks like months of trial and error with different antihistamines.

    I should add that in the autophagy group I'm in on facebook, (https://m.facebook.com/groups/recoverfromlongcovid/permalink/3204374933021027/?comment_id=3209748112483709&notif_t=group_comment_mention&notif_id=1629148233391925&ref=m_notif)

    there are many people resolving their symptoms with intermittent fasting during the week and a 1.5-2.5 day water fast at weekends. It can take them months to resolve symptoms, but a few are claiming that they've not had a relapse in many months despite returning to exercise. I'm a big fan of IF anyway as a reset button for the immune system and earlier this year I cured my gastritis with a 4-day water fast as a hail mary before before going on to Omeprozele for the foreseeable future as per my doctor's advice. I was 80% better after the 4 days and completely recovered within 2 weeks, having had it quite bad for 2 months. So fasting is definitely a route I'll explore if other protcols don't work.

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  • Thu, Aug 19, 2021 - 3:46am

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    Niacin VS Statins

    Thanks for the Update Stephen!

    My wife knows a whole bunch more about vitamins than I do. She said that since big Pharma can't patent vitamins, they bastardize the chemical structure enough to make it patentable. She says that statins are their patentable version of nicotinic acid (vitamin B3.)

    Statins have a whole host of side effects that niacin doesn't. My last checkup, the doctor wanted to prescribe me statins. I told him that I was taking niacin. His response was that statins work entirely differently than niacin. I felt like he really didn't know what he was saying. I was in a hurry and just declined the prescription offer.

    Grover

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  • Thu, Aug 19, 2021 - 9:10am

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    davefairtex

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    niacin, CCR5, RANTES

    Second try.  First try - the site just decided to auto-magically clear the screen and wipe out my post.  This happens sometimes.  No idea why.

    I'd agree that niacin works different from statins.  I'd much prefer niacin to statins.

    My recent tests - just yesterday - vs last year: LDL 154 -> 118, HDL 62 -> 70, Chol 236 -> 204, FBS 108 -> 105.  That's (roughly) 1g/day niacin, plus IF for the past 6 months.  Instead of the nasty statin side effects, you just get to deal with the flush.  Then again, "the flush tells you: niacin is working."  🙂

    For long haul COVID - here's some stuff I saw on the Kats feed:

    First - an in-vitro study.  Niacin isn't just about lipids:

    https://doi.org/10.1016/j.atherosclerosis.2009.08.045

    Anti-inflammatory effects of nicotinic acid in adipocytes demonstrated by suppression of fractalkine, RANTES, and MCP-1 and upregulation of adiponectin

    And then this study which seems to confirm this - at least in rabbits:

    https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/atvbaha.109.201129

    Evidence That Niacin Inhibits Acute Vascular Inflammation and Improves Endothelial Dysfunction Independent of Changes in Plasma Lipids

    These results suggest that niacin may prevent cardiovascular disease by inhibiting vascular inflammation via mechanisms independent of
    its lipid-modifying effects.

    And then finally this one - I think I might have found this one on my own:

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0109818

    " The researchers found that 3 months treatment of 250mg niacin shifted the macrophages from a primarily inflammatory M1 state to an anti-inflammatory M2 state, as indicated in the graph below."

    So M1 -> M2 repolarization, fracktalkine & RANTES downregulation, assisting glutathione, and inhibiting vascular inflammation.

    These things all sound pretty good.  Gun to my head, I'd try the Kats long haul protocol first.  It costs maybe $20, and if it doesn't work, you can always give Patterson a call.

    For acute infection, I'm going to use Ivermectin + some other stuff.

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  • Thu, Aug 19, 2021 - 10:37am

    thesecuritygirl

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    Dave: Then again, "the flush tells you: niacin is working." 🙂

    Do you mind clarifying what this means?  I am doing protocol but wondering... When you say "working" is it safe to assume that the bigger the flush, the more inflammation one has?  When the niacin flush starts dying down, does that mean inflammation is being reduced= less flush?  Does less flush over time mean I should increase dosage?  Hubby and I are using 500mg/day right now.. wondering if we should increase?

    thx

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  • Thu, Aug 19, 2021 - 11:57am

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    davefairtex

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    vax marketing humor

    securitygirl-

    Do you mind clarifying what this means? I am doing protocol but wondering... When you say "working" is it safe to assume that the bigger the flush, the more inflammation one has?

    I was attempting to use "vax marketing" humor to help people adjust mentally to the flush.  Here's what Hoffer says:

    Generally people who need it the most flush the least. That includes arthritics, schizophrenics, and elderly people with cardiovascular problems. Some schizophrenics do not flush until they get well and then they do. But the presence of the flush or its intensity can not be uniquely used measure the need as there are too many variables such as food in the stomach, whether the drink with it is hot or cold, the kind of food, other medication.

    I do have an anecdote from a vaxxed friend, who found the flush much more disagreeable post-vax: extreme itchiness, painful spikes in his legs.  He had to stop niacin for a few weeks.  I'm not sure what this means. Heaven only knows what that vax does.  Had I been clever, I would have suggested he drop his dosage down to 100 mg during the post-vax period.

    Here are two background articles - long, but really useful.  First, Dr Saul:

    http://www.doctoryourself.com/niacin.html

    And the original Mr Niacin - Dr Hoffer:

    http://www.doctoryourself.com/hoffer_niacin.html

    Last point: if you get into a highly stressful situation where you are producing lots of adrenaline, you will need more niacin to mop it up.  If you had some massively stressful event in your past, you will probably need megadoses of niacin to relieve the symptoms from this past event (or set of events).  Likewise, if you have a severe condition (arthritis, for instance) you will also need megadoses to relieve the symptoms.

    Other compounds help niacin to work - but it appears that niacin is doing most of the heavy lifting.

    If you read Hoffer's work, it sure seems as though "No Treatments For You" at FDA was alive and well way back during the 60s.  "Someone" really didn't want niacin to be standard of care.

    True then, true today.  NTFY is a very, very old playbook.

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  • Thu, Aug 19, 2021 - 12:33pm

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    Schizophrenia

    Ha! I'm glad Horrobin's observation about the relationship between schizophrenia and niacin has been inwardly digested.

    Ref: "The Madness of Adam and Eve"

    I sometimes despair about information getting into the right hands.

    Generally people who need it the most flush the least. That includes arthritics, schizophrenics,

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  • Thu, Aug 19, 2021 - 12:38pm

    Andy in the Sun

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    Taliban & Coffee

    Well Arthur,

    I trust that these Abrahamic monotheists also eschew caffeine? In the interest of consistency.

    there I have to disappoint you.  Coffee was the invention of the Arabs and hence, is their whole pride like we have it for our beer.  To be precise it was an Arab goat keeper named Kaldi in 750A.D who discovered it.

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  • Fri, Aug 20, 2021 - 1:18pm

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    Palantir buying gold

    Hi DaveF,

    Here is a little reported factoid for you to noodle:  Palantir, the Mossad's Silicon Valley private IT love-child company has advised that it is purchasing gold bullion at this time due to the risk of "black swan events."

    Any thoughts on what this portends?

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  • Fri, Aug 20, 2021 - 1:41pm

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    Palantir buying gold. YIKES

    That would portend some sort of disjunctive event.  Internet outage?  Market crash?  China selling its Treasuries?  Arthur's hubrids go public?

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  • Fri, Aug 20, 2021 - 2:02pm

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    davefairtex

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    no clue

    I have no clue what Palantir buying gold means.

    Given that Israel gave Pfizer shots to an absurdly large chunk of their population, and those shots have now (basically) failed, I'm not going to automatically chase whatever Palantir does.

    The mass vaccination move surprised me.  I'm still sorting out what it means.

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  • Fri, Aug 20, 2021 - 5:11pm

    thesecuritygirl

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    Great stuff Davefairtx.. and thanks for the Vaxx humor

    Humor is much needed lately.. thanks for the links as well!  Super helpful!

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  • Fri, Aug 20, 2021 - 8:25pm

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    TamHob

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    Re mass vaccination of Israel

    It occurred to me hearing Zelenko's testimony to the rabbi's that the mass Israeli vaccination deal seems like a more than usually clueless move by Pfizer's c-suite. His framing was all about the fact that once again Jews are being used en masse for hideous medical experimentation. Given how vengeful and persistent the Israelis were about hunting down the last lot who did that... Was Gates involved as well in facilitating that deal?

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  • Fri, Aug 20, 2021 - 9:48pm

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    China raided Mongolia for rare earth minerals before; Trump blocked their import from China

    During early 2000s Mongolia a deal was struck to bring all kinds of money in via mining.  The promises of prosperity vanished and all that was left was strip mined holes where pasture and wetlands were before. It raped and pillaged for coal and rare earth minerals primarily by China. As a nation state, it  hasn't recovered, and their government is in tatters. More Mongolians live in the Chinese NE Province of Inner Mongolia, than in "Outer Mongolia."     https://unpo.org/article/18120

    Why leave Afghanistan now?  Maybe to enable the Chinese to dominate the sale of rare earth minerals to USA's Silicon Valley and military applications world-wide. That's something Gates and other overlords can get their teeth in. Since China will willingly provide the slave labor, and the Taliban has no environmental concerns, it's a marriage made in Hell. Besides the UN continues to give China free pass on all pollution as a developing nation.

    Trump had blocked the import of rare earth minerals from China.

    https://news.yahoo.com/trump-executive-order-rare-earths-165748483.html

    Little known fun fact: Spruce Pine in the hills of western NC produces the best crystals for any circuitry world-wide.

    https://www.thequartzcorp.com

     

     

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  • Thu, Aug 26, 2021 - 10:15am

    R3V1V3

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    Dr Kats on twitter

    How can you trust Dr. Kats at all? He says ivermectin is hurting people and creating leaky guts, and to stop using it immediately.  At the same time, not providing data. Why would he do this so harshly? Ivermectin has no side effects besides when purging parasites, but he INSISTS that ivermectin makes his protocol not work BUT that he also doesn't know why. And offers no data, but a lot of screenshots of text messages..

     

    That seem's pretty shady to me.

     

    Maybe he's come onto the scene to convince us data-driven lovers to stop taking the one thing that would protect them? Nefarious in nature?

     

    EDIT: Oh, by the way. Looks like twitter suspended his account today: https://twitter.com/NIATONIN

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