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I see that you made a distinction between New World Order and new world order. Where does/did the phrase take on such ominous overtones?
Actually that distinction was a typo.
Would you entertain the remotest possibility that there is no dark conspiracy and that all that was meant by that phrase (lower case) was a new, unprecedented level of global cooperation? It would be relatively easy for nation states to maintain their sovereignty and national identities. I’m speaking in glittering generality here – Chapter 20 of the Crash Course is all about community – what would be so wrong with that at an international level?
Such a world community would be tremendously leveraged to deal with global crisis be it a pandemic, ELE, tsunami, hurricane, earthquake, Yellowstone caldera, etc. I share Sam’s opinion that that is what nwo means. Nothing more, nothing less.
I have entertained that thought often. Utopia, wouldn’t that me nice?
Marxism sounds utopian, doesn’t it? From those who have to those who have not. What a nice community, people take care of each other, share and share alike.
The only problem is that man’s nature for power and corruption is not expressed in the Marxist equation. It doesn’t work. People who have, tend to have more and vise versa.
Unfortunately, sovereignty and national identities and a global government which recognizes no borders are the antithesis of one another. Who was it that said borders should only be a concept, GB? Don’t remember.
And you really trust these people to implement a NWO in the manner that you state above. To me that is simply naivette. Power corrupts. One need look no further than our current leaders to see that. Could you imagine that power rush if these guys were running the entire world?
IMO – it’s the wild bunch, the fringe thinkers that have breathed dark life into the NWO connotation. You can populate that list with any number of people – Michael Savage, Limbaugh, Alex Jones, Ickes et al. How is what they have done any different than what they accuse MSM from doing? Then you get a Celente – head and shoulders above that rabble – who poses the problem for me because he makes sense. The fact that these other guys continue unchecked makes you wonder what master they serve – if the NWO were as demonic as they would have you believe I find it hard that there isn’t an unfortunate car accident for one of them. Of course they all have that base covered with the "If I die it means I got too close and "they" took me out". That approaches borderline ridiculous and then takes a running jump over the line.
Quite the little conspiricy theory you have going there, Dogs….
But seriously. Many of us had this figured out long before the guys you mention above came onto the scene.
Demonic? I don’t believe they are demonic, they are just idealists who see things in black or white and miss the gray area. They think big government is the answer to everything. Yup, I loved the way GB handled Katrina, social security and the economic crisis.
They view the collective as more important than the individual and when these types come into power, out goes individual freedoms and needs and in comes the needs of the collective. They want to spread the wealth around which really translates into the fact that they want to merge wealth and poverty to create a new synthesis. I’ve been broke, I didn’t like it…