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  • Wed, Dec 08, 2010 - 12:16pm

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    Re: Socialism question

Jager,

I want to debate, not argue. We’re adults both, so I’ll be playing this as such …

Firstly though, do you realise that via pm or whatever, you are being played for a Patsy by the use of other members here who hold a dominance agenda upon disinformation? Without naming names, one is immature and of fixed unyielding opinion and doesn’t open links, the second is easily lead by persuasion, and the third masquerades as every-bodies friend, and will misquote using bullying tactic’s to win arguments by default. This is wholly the reason I’ve stepped in here …

I’m going to systematically walk through each of your posts offering facts to dismiss opinion and belief. In each I’ll offer a link to back what I reply with. This isn’t a fight, so don’t feel under attack.

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Once again, point to a pure socialist model that has worked in history…

Crickets.

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Cuba

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How many human lives do these little socialist experiments cost? On average I mean, just a round number. You know the ones who “don’t get it” and want to cling to their stuff. Like the Jews in Germany and the intellectuals in Cambodia. You know, the average Joe’s who just needed to submit to re-education. How many really just had to die to get it right?

3 million per socialist experiment? More?

How about food shortages? How many died under socialist centrally planned food systems and farming?

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The Russian dominated Ukraine and China hold value to famine with socialised communistic value, but what of the capitalistic idealism considered to be the almighty United States of America? It is reported that 7.5 million died as a result of destitution and famine in the 1930’s I can confirm.

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56 million [famine deaths} in Yugoslavia alone wasn’t it?

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In a census completed in 1991, the combined population of Yugoslavia was a mere 23.2 million combined, I can confirm.

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I left the military when my wife was forced to wait 6 months into her high risk pregnancy before she was allowed to see a doctor, among other things. Of course socialism works, we should make everyone wait to see physicians…oh wait, we already are and trying to make the wait longer by forcing everyone into a single payer (no choice) system that will of course “provide more choices”. Orwellian. Disgusting.

And failed every time it has been tried.

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President Nixon’s appeal for health insurance to help protect those who would fall into grave poverty through terminal illness and the like, gave a twinkly eyed rendition in 1974 to the merit of aiding those 25 million who were at the time unprotected. That number now sits at nearer 50 million and climbing. I happened to find Nixon in his own words online from the time the bill was being pushed forward in February of that year, which will make for interesting reading.

In regard to socialised medicine, you won’t need but 3 minutes to watch this to confirm something sickly deep-rooted in the collective American mindset: –

~ VF ~