The six-month safety and efficacy data is in for the Pfizer vax. While we all await the larger readout from the full length of the phase III trials (due in 2023) this interim result is a much-needed peek at the trials.

The good news is that the vaccine seems to reduce ‘serious Covid’ as well as SARS2 infection.  The bad news is that we can’t tell from the data at what rate the vaccinated are still getting and replicating the virus.  The good news is that neither the vaccinated nor the unvaccinated were dying of Covid.  Or it could be said they were dying at ~ the same rate.   Out of 44,000+ total test subjects, just one vaccinated and two unvaccinated died of Covid.  Overall 15 vaccinated and 14 unvaccinated people died…so almost exactly the same number in each arm.

Troublingly, the study failed to tell us much if anything about the disposition of some 262 vaccinated people who had “serious” adverse events.  We don’t know how many recovered, how many hadn’t yet, or what the issues were.  This is fully 0.5% above baseline, so it means roughly 0.5% of all vaccinated people are going to have a serious adverse event (SAE).  Compare that to the 0.13% that had serious Covid and suddenly things get a little bit murkier.  We cannot say which is a better or worse public health outcome; 0.5% with vaccine SAE’s or 0.13% with serious Covid.

The study didn’t provide nearly enough information to make such a determination.  Which is a shame because good data goes a long way towards relieving fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD).

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  • Tue, Aug 03, 2021 - 7:36pm

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    PhilH said:

    Chris,

    I posted this a couple of days ago.  If you're vaccinated AND you get covid, you have a 19% chance of DYING.  If you're unvaccinated, and get covid, you have a 1.6% chance of dying.  This is a frightening development!

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  • Tue, Aug 03, 2021 - 8:04pm

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    Can you provide the data?

    If you're vaccinated AND you get covid, you have a 19% chance of DYING.  If you're unvaccinated, and get covid, you have a 1.6% chance of dying.

    I must have missed that data.  Can you please re-provide?

    The IFR of Covid is way under 1.6% so I am wondering what the definitions are that you are using.  I could imagine those might bear out if we're talking about hospitalizations with Covid.

    But your chance of ending up in the hospital is much small if you're vaccinated in the first place, which means we'd have to population adjust/normalize everything to understand the total risk.

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  • Tue, Aug 03, 2021 - 8:37pm

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    PhilH said:

    Chris, this was in the Pfizer data.  80 vaxxed people got covid, 15 (or is it 14) died.  800 non vaxxed people got covid, 14 (or 15) died.  Sand_puppy presented the detail, and I confirmed it in the data.

    This really disturbed me.  Maybe it's a statistical anomaly, but I fear it's something bigger.

    Nurse friend in a larger MI hospital said all non emergency procedures has been cancelled, and staff reallocated to ER and Covid Care.

     

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  • Tue, Aug 03, 2021 - 9:35pm

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    conversion disorder in a child

    ...would take days to weeks to diagnose. The timeline for the necessary testing (like bloodwork, imaging, invasive studies) is quite lengthy especially in the middle of a pandemic.  All possible physical causes have to be ruled out first.  The effort should be that much more extensive because it is a child at stake.  Something very wrong here unless the 12 year old has a pre-existing history of conversion disorder.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 12:56am

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    More Pfizer Data in the 2 month EUA Cinical Trial report

    Chris, the FDA report that was used to get the EUA had more detailed data.

    https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download

    It has more detail on obesity, more detail on the side effects and some data on hospitalizations.

    My take on the 2 month study is:

    • No statistical difference mortality (also in 6 month study) in which case the report says it is basically background rate.  So where is the pandemic?
    • No statistical difference in Serious Adverse Events (SAE) which is the category that includes hospitalization (see Wikipedia SAE definition)
    • Large imbalance in Covid symptom side-effects (fatigue, headache, chills), for example: 18-55 yo severe fatigue (2nd dose) 4.6% with vaccine verses 0.7% with placebo.  So one is far more likely to get Covid symptoms with the vaccine than without.
    • No evidence it reduces transmission.

    Based on the report's info, how did it qualify for EUA?  The listed benefit is reduced positive PCR tests, but what is more important, reduced illness or reduced positive PCR tests.  Despite this data, the major media and political push is that it saves lives and reduces transmission.  Amazingly they have convinced a lot of people that getting sick after the vaccine is a good thing.

    I understand that there is excessive deaths due to Covid, but the mRNA clinical trials (Moderna's numbers are similar) show that it is not excessive for the subject population.  But the excessive deaths are explained by the CDC comorbidity study you previously presented with 96+% of Covid deaths having at least 2 comorbidities.

    If the EUA decision was up to me, I would denied the EUA and would have told them to do a study specifically on the vulnerable population.  I have looked at a lot of the VAERS data and most of the vaccine (possible) death reports were in the vulnerable population so it is not obvious that is was a benefit.  Multiple VAERS entries reported nursing home residents that had recovered from Covid at least 2 weeks died soon after the shots.  Many reports had multiple resident death reports with same state and vax date and similar wording which makes it appear to have occurred at the same nursing home.  If the vaccine deaths are so rare, multiple deaths at the same nursing home would be very improbable.

    Regarding the following from the 6 month study: "No new serious adverse events assessed as related by investigators were reported after data cut-off for the previous report."  I find the "assessed as related" phrase to be a red flag based on the 12-15 year old study report (https://www.fda.gov/media/148542/download)

    that said that Maddie's injuries were not related to the vaccine even though they started the day of the 2nd shot.  I suspect they are hiding something bad there.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 1:19am

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    UK July Variants of Concern Report - More vaccinated people died of Delta variant than unvaxxed

    The data from the July variants of concern report showed that more vaccinated people died of the Delta variant than the unvaccinated.  Yet the media is pushing that the vaccinated will only get a mild case if at all.

    See Table 5 in https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1005517/Technical_Briefing_19.pdf

    In the subset of cases that were sequenced and were the Delta variant, deaths were:

    • Received 2 doses: 224
    • Unvaccinated: 165

    Latest Covid notice at my work said that now the vaccinated will have to wear masks so that they don't make unvaccinated people seriously ill.  So they make it sound like the unvaccinated are at fault for making the vaccinated wear masks.  Plus they make it sound like only the unvaccinated are at risk of serious illness.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 3:07am

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    This could be the answer to the magnetic field finding!!!!

    Watch these!

    VERY EVIL STUFF… my blood is boiling!!!

    (A)

    PFIZER WHISTLEBLOWER KAREN KINGSTON – VACCINE INGREDIENTS

    (B)

    The ACTUAL CONTENTS Inside Pfizer Vials EXPOSED!

    (C)

    https://particleandfibretoxicology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12989-016-0168-y

    - Orchid

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 4:17am

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    BREAKING - A Canadian wins court case when Government shows inability to provide evidence of SARS-CoV-2 virus

    A Canadian citizen from Alberta just won a court case where the government was unable to present evidence of the SARS-CoV-2 virus which would be needed to provide scientific proof underpinning all the pandemic regulations put forth in that province. They are in the process of reversing all emergency sanitary mesures.

    Check this out.

    https://rumble.com/vkorz0-freedom-fighter-court-victory-ends-masking-shots-quarantine-in-alberta.html

     

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 4:42am

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    Vitamin D

    Shame there is no mention in the study of vitamin D levels in those who experienced adverse events.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 7:43am

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    focus on the overall statistics

    This really disturbed me. Maybe it's a statistical anomaly, but I fear it's something bigger.

    I'm not sure it's either of those.  Assume that both groups (vaccinated and non-vaccinated) had N people.  Then those statistics on their own tell us that:

    non-vaccinated group

    1. N - 800 didn't catch anything
    2. 785 (or was it 786) caught COVID but didn't die
    3. 15 (or was it 14) caught COVID and died

    vaccinated group

    1. N - 80 didn't catch anything
    2. 65 (or was it 66) caught COVID but didn't die
    3. 15 (or was it 14) caught COVID and died

    Though the vaccine maybe didn't help those who fell into category 3, it possibly helped those in categories 1 and 2, especially if it prevented any of them from spreading the disease.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 8:17am

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    PhilH said:

    [quote]Though the vaccine maybe didn't help those who fell into category 3, it possibly helped those in categories 1 and 2, especially if it prevented any of them from spreading the disease.[/quote]

    I heard one report that medical personnel weren't testing those that were previously vaxxed.  At a minimum, if someone is asymptomatic, which seems to be an issue amongst vaxxed, then they would be unlikely to get tested, which could throw off the vaxxed with Covid numbers

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 9:09am

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    Remember The Danger Of Brain Diseases Caused By PRIONS DOMAINS In SARS COV 2 & mRNA VAXX?

    How interesting people just are deaf, dumb, and blind to what is actually known about the SARS COV 2 virus, and the Pfizer & Moderna mRNA serums.

    What is perfectly predictable seems to escape most.  Most are confused when everything makes perfect sense and is completely documented.

    Is it because people just do not bother to educate themselves, or do they just not retain information longer than a few hours?

    HOW can serious people look at long-term cognitive issues in the infected, and in the inoculated,  with surprise and wonder, after being informed of the PRION DOMAINS in their spike-proteins?   These S1/S2 spikes of the virus and the "vaccines" are both artificially created.  The SARS COV 2 coronavirus is the ONLY coronavirus to HAVE a PRION DOMAIN associated with it, among ALL the other coronavirus known to Man.

    While the short-term toxic effects of synthetic spike-proteins flooding the body, as caused by the mRNA "vaccines," seem to be understood and their causes addressed,  the LONG-TERM effects of these prion carrying spikes, seems poorly understood, but the long-term prognosis has always been the infected will present prion related brain diseases, along with their lethal results.

    Here is a just published article about how infected people are now suffering cognitive issues in the longer-term...from Covid19:

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/covid-brain-cognitive-long/2021/08/04/id/1031074/

    Articles in The Lancet and Metro UK are referenced therein.

    The trouble is...in these COVID19 related cognitive issues...the onset of prion induced brain disease, while quicker than other forms of brain diseases, still takes 2 to 4 years to become chronic and instigate death.   The disease will be progressive over this short time frame, and its onset will appear to be quite mild and symptoms troubling, but not traumatic.   One proceeds from "brain fog," concentration problems, memory problems, and aphasia, to ever more chronic mental deterioration, resulting in eventual diagnosis of Variant Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease (vCJD), commonly referred to as "mad cow disease."

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 9:23am

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    Andrew said:

    Here is some data in a news report relating to Wales, showing that 60% of covid hospitalisations were double-vaccinated. I’m not sure what to make of it:

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/how-many-people-covid-welsh-21204579

     

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 9:24am

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    Thomas the Pagan addresses the troops.

    A Grand Cycle back to tribalism.





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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 9:37am

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    PhilH said:

    Chris, here is the Pfizer study

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1.full.pdf?

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 9:50am

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    What is so hard to make out?

    Andrew:

    Let me help you understand.

    The mRNA serums are not going to prevent anyone from being infected with SARS COV 2, or becoming sick with COVID19.   Why?  Because the "vaccine" IS THE ILLNESS, there is no difference between your body being infected by a few thousand SARS COV 2 virus, or by Trillions of the mRNA generated spike-proteins...which continue to be manufactured by your body for several MONTHS after it is injected.

    Each causes the exact same symptoms and possibility of chronic harm, injury, and death.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 10:19am

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    Vaccines Do Not Prevent Infection or Anything.

    What vaccines do is to allow your body to recognize a particular pathogen quicker, so your body can produce lymphocytes faster.  They do not prevent you from becoming infected with a pathogen, and they do not prevent a pathogen from infecting another person.

    In the case with mRNA serums ("vaccines") they do not prevent infection, or the illness, or the spreading, of a targeted pathogen.  They are only reportedly to reduce the severity of symptoms in 50% of the infected, who develop Covid19.  But, this is a claim which cannot be verified, or, IMO, even claimed.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 10:42am

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    Inability to provide evidence of SARS-CoV-2

    What the heck? Why couldn't they produce evidence of it? So confused.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 10:51am

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    Friedrichs_teeth said:

    Call me when it goes through a mass spectrometer.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 11:05am

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    Blaggers said:

    It’s amazing how the narrative has switched from vaccines being “safe and effective” to “you can still catch the virus but the outcome won’t be as bad”. How dumb are people that they can’t see the BS they are being peddled.

    Just heading back to work with a personal mission to put ‘seeds of doubt’ into as many colleagues as I can.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 11:20am

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    Cannot Provide Evidence Of What One Does Not Understand...

    If a government appointed attny in a court in Alberta, cannot demonstrate the existence of  a particular "thing," or "existent," such as the SARS COV 2 virus, in some  positive manner, which may be understood and accepted by a Judge, who may be totally uneducated in such things, then what is demonstrated is the lack of sufficient knowledge on the part of the government attny to do so...not the non-existence of a fully comprehended viral pathogen.

    We know just about everything there is to know about SARS COV 2.  We even have some nice, actual, pictures of it, along with its entire development history.

    It's just the number of people in complete possession of all this knowledge is small, the information is not presented to the novice, and the contextual relationships are not available to the lay public, unfamiliar with the concepts involved.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 11:42am

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    Important - re Alberta legal action

    Thanks, nitro. This is also posted in the International Corona Court Forum. I want to underscore the humongous and far reaching implications of this. This is precedent setting - for everyone, everywhere!!

    See more here.

    Freedom Fighter Court VICTORY! Ends Masking, Shots, Quarantine in Alberta!

    ...Patrick showed up in court the next day and called ‘procedural violation’ to which the judge agreed. Patrick requested adjournment that was declined. Patrick reiterated this was procedural violation at which point Deena Hinshaw’s lawyer spoke up and said “Well your honor, Mr. King is requesting evidence we cannot get”.

    CMOH Has No Material Evidence … to provide Mr. King for his defence, which basically means everything Patrick requested in Schedule A i.e. ‘isolation’ of the SARS-COV 2 virus that needs to be 100% isolated in order to base scientific facts on these public health acts, you don’t have material evidence for this, and they said “No.”

    Patrick reiterated to the judge, “Your Honor, just for the record. I want it to be on the record duly noted that the Chief Medical Officer of Health, Alberta does not have the material evidence I request to which the judge responded “Yes, they did say that”. ...

    The legal implications of this are far reaching and will bolster other legal actions. This is also a key piece of crucial evidence to share - to plant seeds of doubt and WTF?!?

    It also supplies hope, which is in need of reinforcement especially after the Dr. Mercola announcement. This is a David and Goliath moment!!

    Please share the info re the court victory far and wide in your networks. 

     

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 11:52am

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    It does not matter Ision

    There are bigger, more far reaching implications here, irrespective of what government lawyers may or may not know about the existence of the virus. It is about credibility and trust.

    What this court case does is establish that the government of Alberta created an Emergency Act that was coercive and punitive, violating the constitutional rights of its citizens, without having the proper evidence to support the Act.

    In other words, this is all a massive fraud based on lies and deceit, which has now been exposed in the courts.

    It is a big freaking deal - one that has the potential to turn this around. But only if the people know of it happening - which we know the MSM will not help us to do... so it is up to us to spread the word far and wide and hope that this is one of the big seeds to wake people up.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 11:58am

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    Bromhexine not at Amazon

    Back in December when I was working on getting my lungs back I did come research and decided that Bromhexine was worth a try. Much to my annoyance the Amazon search found  only guaifenesin formulas so I got Mucinex instead which did nothing for me.

    I just repeated the search, getting the same results except one new item right at the very top -"Quercetin Zinc Immune Support Supplement - with Vitamins C&D3, Stinging Nettle Root, Bromelain - Immune  Boost to Fight Flare-Ups, Improve Respiratory Health and Energy"

    OK, it does contain the similar word bromelain which however is nothing like bromhexine and unspecific to lung problems. So most likely people are buying that after searching for the covid drug. Not going to buy any of those, looks like someone trying to fool people because for some reason they can not actually include bromhexine.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 12:04pm

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    Bromhexine not at Amazon

    I think Chris meant to say Bromhexine was available on Ebay.  I purchased it there a few months ago.  When looking today, there was none available on the Ebay US site however it is available on the Ebay Germany site.  Problem is they don't ship to the US.   Perhaps others here might know a source?

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 12:08pm

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    Whoa Jan, thanks.

    I've been trying to understand why Alberta just out of nowhere dropped almost everything.   A court ruling that cuts the legs out from under the entire program would explain things.

    Of course by the same logic they can come back with a new program backed by sturdier legal arguments later on.   And now I don't have to be surprised when they do.

     

    Hinshaw has had moments where she seemed relatively reasonable.  She usually wasn't fanning the hysteria like other health officials, but she still followed the party line (including No Treatments For You) enough that I could never see her as one of the "good guys" doing the best they could in a world they never made.

     

    There was no way Kenney was behind the sudden change either.  He has no principles whatsoever except that of syphoning off money to his buddies as fast as he can and waiting for his expected coronation as Federal Conservative Leader.

    I havent lived through a descent into dictatorship before so I know as little as most here, but Ive observed that authoritarians really like to cling to the legality of what they are doing.  Its important to them to appear to be civilized even more-so than regimes that actually are civilized.

    As usual I have no links, but there was story in Nazi Germany about a guy who had a job guarding a camp.  One day he gets the order to take some prisoners to a shower and he refuses and is court-marshalled.

    At the trail the judge asks him how he pleads to the charge of disobeying a direct order and he asks, "What order did I disobey?".

    The case is dismissed because they apparently don't want that in the transcripts.

    Of course such events don't stop the overall program.  But they are necessary because they undermine.  They give hope.  They are kinda funny too.  I have other examples Ill try to work into future comments.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 12:23pm

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    Ebay product has some in it

    Daiichi Sankyo LULU Attack EX 24 tablets Cold Relief From Japan with tracking

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 12:34pm

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    Canadian voters needed - see poll in link and vote NO! PLEASE!!!!

    https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/341872/BC-has-no-plans-for-vaccine-passports-despite-moves-elsewhere

    It is looking like a 50-50 split so far, which is encouraging but not good enough for me! Please vote NO to send the message we will not support vax passports.

     

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 12:39pm

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    Consider potassium iodide as a replacement for bromhexine

    In Feb 2020, I was diagnosed with type A flu. I can be prone to rather lengthy and bad coughs. In fact, the only reason I went to urgent care was to get some GOOD cough suppressant. I only got mediocre stuff. Not sufficient.

    Looked online and found a paper describing the use of potassium iodide (or iodine, can’t remember which). Anyway, I did take a few drops of Lugol’s 2% solution. (Amazon). Really helped thin out the mucus and keep the coughing reduced to a moderate level. Probably I would have needed to take that a couple of times a day.

    Now, iodine/iodide solution is not something i would ever recommend someone to take. I have no idea of how it effects your thyroid and thyroid hormone levels. If you consider it, you REALLY need to read up on it.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 1:14pm

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    Bromhexine

    I ordered bromhexine today from heatlhypill.com (apparently intentionally misspelled).  Supposed to be based in Europe.  We'll see if it arrives.  They sent a confirming email and tracking number, so appears legit so far.

    Based on Dr. Been's presentation, I don't think bromhexine's use as a mucolytic is the reason it is recommended for C19.  More so it's ability to block TMPRSS2 (transmembrane serine protease 2).

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 1:21pm

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    Blaggers said:

    Hi Wotthecurtains.

    I see Derek Sloan has been campaigning hard in Alberta and looks to be establishing a new political party.

    A lot of what he is saying resonates with me.

     

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 1:26pm

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    Blaggers said:

    Hey Jan.

    Thanks for posting that but I could not see the link for voting.

    Cheers.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 1:39pm

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    Sinus Rinse can reduce nasal infections

    I rinse daily using a nasal rinse kit spray bottle and Xylitol. It has eliminated my Sinusitis infection. I believe this lowers my risk of being infected by Covid-19 as well.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 1:46pm

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    Bromhexine search

    I search PP to see what others had found/posted earlier about Bromhexine and found this post from Netlej. I followed her link. It does indeed say that Bromhexin is sourced from Vasaka.  This is available on Amazon and eBay.. and likely other herbal sites as well.

    <<Bromhexine, regular cough suppressant

    Everytime I get a cold it turns into bronchitis. Since I started using Vasaka I have not had bronchitis in over 15 years. I use the powder and have been taking it daily since the C-19 started.

    bromhexine is a derivative of vasicine or Vasaka;

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/pharmacology-toxicology-and-pharmaceutical-science/justicia-adhatoda

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 2:06pm

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    bromhexine info

    Here's the first study on bromhexine.  Note there are also trials, but this paper talks about how it works.  And perhaps more interesting for us right now, how bromhexine is often included in cough syrups.  So.  That's maybe a way to get bromhexine OTC.  Via a cough syrup.  Cough cough.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/347446399_The_potential_role_of_Bromhexine_in_the_management_of_COVID-19_Decipher_and_a_real_game-changer

    Bromhexine is a potent inhibitor of TMPRSS2, a key protease in the infection and transmission of novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, bromhexine has the advantage of low price and greater safety (Sagawa et al., 2020).

    And there are pretty pictures in there too.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 2:07pm

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    Bromhexine source

    I ordered Bromhexine on eBay.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313&_nkw=bromhexine&_sacat=0

    Since I don't read Korean or Japanese, I ordered the one with the English word Bromhexine in big letters on it!

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 2:20pm

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    Quercus bicolor said:

    UK Vaccination rate as of yesterday: 38,590,000 / 68,250,000 = 52.6%

    Vaccinated deaths as percent of total = 224 / (224 + 165) = 57.6%

    If this is true, then the risk of death for the vaccinated relative to the unvaccinated = (57.6/52.6) / (42.4/46.4) = 1.2

    This disagrees with other data I've seen.  Is it wrong, or has something changed?

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 2:29pm

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    What a prescient investor Gates is!

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 2:46pm

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    Another Bromhexine source

    10.99E for 50 8mg tabs 3.99E shipping to US

    Bromhexine 4mg/8mg- 50 Tablets Treats Respiratory Disorders Acute & Chronic Bronchitis Cold Flu Lung Disease

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 2:46pm

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    Canuckian

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    What a prescient investor Gates is!

    If this is a result of Gates being an insider in this whole thing (wouldn't be a bit surprised), you have to wonder what his mindset is? Insane, evil or will do literally anything to be the world's richest person? It boggles the mind.

     

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 2:50pm

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    Bromhexine

    Kat43 had already posted the link to Healthypill, my post is redundant.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 2:51pm

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    Super-Saturated Potassium Iodide (SSKI)

    is quite easy to make, safe, and did clear my lungs.  I was taking 10 drops (300 milligrams) two or three times a day but after a month it started to taste metallic which is a sign to discontinue. For me it and hydrogen peroxide just gave temporary relief.  Nebulized silver colloid is what seemed to eliminate congestion altogether.

    https://www.olaloa.com/resources/articles-on-nutrition/381-the-healing-power-of-potassium-iodide-sski

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 2:53pm

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    CrLaan said:

    What a prescient investor Gates is!

    'investors' are following the 'winner'.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 3:45pm

    CrLaan

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    CrLaan said:

    Though the vaccine

    it's a vax????

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 5:18pm

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    Their own data says the vaccine is more dangerous than the control!

    ­Regarding the recently released: Six Month Safety and Efficacy of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine

    I’m similar to their study group (median age 51 and healthier than a typical American).  My go­al is to avoid death and any severe health events.  Death was approximately equal between the groups (15 vaccine and 14 control).   Using their data from Tables S6 and S3, the occurrence of severe health events (severe covid + severe adverse events) is 263 (1+262) for vaccine vs 180 (30+150) for placebo.   Thus, if my goal is to avoid death and severe health events, I am better off not getting the vaccine!

    As in any medical decision, each individual needs to determine the risks and rewards of various courses of action as they pertain to their particular circumstances.  For contagious diseases one also has a moral obligation to consider how their actions could impact others.  Thus, I use a prophylaxis proven to prevent transmission in those exposed to infected patients.

    If the goal of the FDA is to help people, like those in the study, avoid death and severe health events, they will not grant full authorization based on this data.  If the goal of the FDA is to use our bodies to mandate profits for big pharma, then they will grant authorization based on this data.

     

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 5:24pm

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    Data Driven said:

    Chris,

    Note: On first read, the paragraph below implies that reporting differences are responsible for imbalances in adverse events between vaccine and placebo.  Fig 2 doesn't show what is stated in the supplement: Reactogenicity subset of participants ≥16 years of age (ie, participants who used an electronic diary for reporting local reactions and systemic events).  This needs to be clarified.

    “Adverse event analyses during the blinded period are provided for 43,847 ≥16-year-olds (Table S3). Reactogenicity events among participants not in the reactogenicity subset are reported as adverse events, resulting in imbalances in adverse events (30% vs 14%), related adverse events (24% vs 6%), and severe adverse events (1.2% vs 0.7%) between BNT162b2 and placebo groups.”

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 5:42pm

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    Data Driven said:

    Factor in the unknowns around the vaccines (spike protein dangers, biodistribution, ADE, etc.) and the knowns regarding effective treatments (not widely used in the United States) and the answer to your question which is a better or worse public health outcome; 0.5% with vaccine SAE’s or 0.13% with serious Covid becomes clearer.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 5:55pm

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    anxiety and fear-related disorder = niacin deficiency?

    Throwing out a wild guess here but perhaps anxiety and fear-related disorder are not a disease -  but are actually a symptom of something underlying -- like, for example, niacin deficiency? So the co-morbidity that is so high on their list is not emotional at all, it's a deficiency of something else. (hat tip to Davefairtex for all his contributions to this site about niacin).

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 6:44pm

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    More damning info - German autopsies

    https://****westmedia.com/2021/08/03/german-chief-pathologist-sounds-alarm-on-fatal-vaccine-injuries/

    Change **** to free

    The director of the Pathological Institute of the University of Heidelberg, Peter Schirmacher, has carried out over forty autopsies on people who had died within two weeks of their vaccination. Schirmacher expressed alarm over his findings. ......

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 6:56pm

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    Is being outside still safe with the Delta Variant?

    Hi Chris and others,

    I have relaxed a lot since your videos about how safe being outside is, Chris, and that generally masks are not needed.  But given how contagious the Delta variant is and I believe you said in a video that we don't know how it may spread outside, I am concerned again.  I have a couple of risk factors, but want to be able to be outside with friends and family.  I would really appreciate input about this, even best guesses appreciated.  Thanks.

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  • Wed, Aug 04, 2021 - 7:24pm

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    Outside Safety

    I've heard knowledgeable people talk about virus carrying aerosols being much like cigarette smoke.  Yes, it's possible to get a whiff of someones second hand smoke outside, but nothing like having someone light up inside.

    I feel it also matters if you're sitting with a group for an extended period, or simply passing people on the street. If you're sitting next to someone at a baseball stadium, & he's hootin' and hollerin' the whole time, he will be generating aerosols.

    I've heard that vocalization generates 10 times more aerosols than simply breathing, so I have no worries about people who are not yackin on their phones or chattering away with a friend.

    I have no worries about passing by dozens of people on the street.  Sometimes I'll inhale as I approach someone and pause my breath as we pass if we will be in close quarters.  By the time I inhale again, we're over a dozen feet apart.

    Bottom line...  Nothing is zero risk if you're going to be rubbing elbows in public, but being outside, the next best thing to being alone.

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  • Thu, Aug 05, 2021 - 8:18am

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    6 month study review

    Chris-

    I just watched your video last night. I think two observations would show that not only was this study shoddy as you stated, but it is entirely worthless.

    1-The vaccine side was unblinded and the placebo side was vaxed, as stated in their FDA meeting for the EUA. This relegates any comparison useless. It has been stated in these blogs that this may be why they are so frantically trying to get everyone jabbed; so there is no one to compare to when the ADE really takes off in the fall.

    2- The CDC admitted that the PCR tests cannot differentiate from COVID and Flu in their recent announcement to labs that the PCR EUA would end on December 31, 2021. They stated that they recommend that it be replaced with multiphasic tests that can differentiate Covid from Flu implying that the PCR cannot.

    I think both of these points make the 6 month review irrelevant. The other data that you reviewed from the EU was great though, although it may also be questionable due to point #2.

    One other point that may just be semantics but they call this a 6 month review, but the phase 3 trials started in October 2020, so 6 months would be in April, not June. Maybe they meant 6 months from when the placebo group was jabbed.

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  • Thu, Aug 05, 2021 - 2:49pm

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    More lockdowns soon

    At the start of the pandemic, Amazon was the first amongst the tech companies here in Seattle to announce work from home directives. The others followed that same week and the government officially locked the country down two weeks later.

    Amazon has just internally extended its work from home period to at least January 2022. I suspect the rest to follow suit, and by september 1 we may see more lockdowns in WA. We'll see but the WFH period is being extended to fight Delta and its terrifying cousin: the common cold!

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  • Thu, Aug 05, 2021 - 3:51pm

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    niacin deficiency

    Yeah I think "anxiety" is just the symptom of niacin deficiency, driven by stress, or inflammation, or - who knows what else.  And of course Pharma tries to sell you addictive substances which ruin your life to fix it.

    The only COVID trial I could find with a NAD+ precursor on it:

    https://kidney360.asnjournals.org/content/kidney360/early/2020/11/20/KID.0006452020.full.pdf

    Niacinamide was associated with a lower risk of RRT or death:

    KDIGO stage 2/3 AKI HR 0.29, 95% CI 0.13 to 0.65, p=0.03;
    Total mortality: HR 0.17, 95% CI 0.05-0.52 in KDIGO 2/3 patients, p=0.002.

    Basically one hospital gave patients who qualified has having "acute kidney injury" (according to some test metric) niacinamide.  If you were at stage 2/3, if you didn't get the niacinamide, you died.  Even if you did, your chances of survival were only (estimated) 38%.

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  • Thu, Aug 05, 2021 - 4:20pm

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    Covid PCR test DOES distinguish from flu

    Currently, there is a test for Covid as well as a separate test for influenza.  Since there is overlap in symptoms, both tests may be run. This is two different samples to set up and run in 2 completely separate assays.

    The multiphasic assay will test for both Covid  and influenza simultaneously. Easier set up (saving time/money) as well as only one set of reagents(saving money).

    Definitely not that the Covid test can’t distinguish between Covid and flu?

    Me? Just a lab scientist who had run many, many PCR assays.

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  • Thu, Aug 05, 2021 - 5:37pm

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    PCR test over 35 cts can find sars, flu, plague, HIV, and snippets from about a hundred other diseases.

    Average pcr ct over the last 2 years is 40 to 45.

    PCR over 20cts is meaningless. Any PCR test does not confirm infection at any cts.

    Why are we even still talking about this?

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  • Thu, Aug 05, 2021 - 7:54pm

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    Cts

    I do quantitative PCR assays. I run a standard curve with every assay. My Ct numbers for the standard curve go from 11-29. I run 40 cycles. 40 cycles seems to be the standard number of cycles. It’s been the standard since sometime in the 1980’s.

    My samples, as well as my negative controls, never generate Ct numbers of 35. (Or 36, etc).

    You may well be correct that high Ct numbers are worthless. I’m only saying that I personally do not see them. But, I am not doing Covid assays either.

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  • Thu, Aug 05, 2021 - 10:33pm

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    Chris, my thinking has boiled down to one question going forward:

    Q: Do the variants arise from the unvaxxed, or the vaccinated? What is the data showing? If variants arise from the unvaccinated, I can't logically or safely remain unvaxxed. OTOH, if the variants are a result of 'leaky' only partially effective vaccines (being used on a massive scale) then we have entered an Orwellian Hell hole and your only options are 1) die from the inevitable variant that kills young people without co-morbidities, or 2) jump on the endless hamster wheel of vaccine > variant > booster > mega variant > triple vax > double killa variant, ad naseum. And by the way, Pfizer will probably profiting soon at rates of $100 billion per year not counting medications targeted at vaccine side effects. I don't see good outcomes in this at all.

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  • Thu, Aug 05, 2021 - 10:41pm

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    Chris, my thinking has boiled down to one question going forward:

    Q: Do the variants arise from the unvaxxed, or the vaccinated? What is the data showing? If variants arise from the unvaccinated, I can't logically or safely remain unvaxxed. OTOH, if the variants are a result of 'leaky' only partially effective vaccines (being used on a massive scale) then we have entered an Orwellian Hell hole and your only options are 1) die from the inevitable variant that kills young people without co-morbidities, or 2) jump on the endless hamster wheel of vaccine > variant > booster > mega variant > triple vax > double killa variant, ad naseum. And by the way, Pfizer will probably profiting soon at rates of $100 billion per year not counting medications targeted at vaccine side effects. I don't see good outcomes in this at all.

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 12:44am

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    thuber said:

    This is a good question. My limited understanding is that mutations are caused by the virus making copies of itself. So, as long as this can happen, we get mutations. https://www.cbrc.kaust.edu.sa/covmt/
    Leaky “vaccines” shouldn’t be much different then no vaccine as far as preventing copies from being made.

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 1:26am

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    My opinion on vaccination

    Vaccination is now being propagated as the only pragmatic option people have to guard against coronavirus infections. Pfizer is one of those vaccines authorized by the United States. However, while writing my paper I found that vaccines are not fully effective against these viruses. The side effects are also not ignorable either.

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 1:58am

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    hamster wheels & false choices

    Q: Do the variants arise from the unvaxxed, or the vaccinated? What is the data showing? If variants arise from the unvaccinated, I can't logically or safely remain unvaxxed. OTOH, if the variants are a result of 'leaky' only partially effective vaccines (being used on a massive scale) then we have entered an Orwellian Hell hole and your only options are 1) die from the inevitable variant that kills young people without co-morbidities, or 2) jump on the endless hamster wheel of vaccine > variant > booster > mega variant > triple vax > double killa variant, ad naseum.

    So The Stakeholders definitely want this to be your choice - either The Endlessly Profitable Hamster Wheel, or death.

    That's a false choice.

    There's a third choice that literally no "health" official talks about.  Namely, preparing your terrain, early treatment, natural immunity, and living your life.  So far there are 23 compounds that have varying degrees of efficacy against this virus.  Fauci only acknowledges one: Remdesivir.  Boy is it lame.  But it makes up for its terrible performance by being patented, really expensive, and part of the NIH guideline.

    The fix is definitely in.

    https://c19early.com/

    As for preparation: there is activity (> 50% risk reduction), vitamin D sufficiency (maybe another 50%), and a normal BMI (say 66% risk reduction BMI=24 vs 35).

    So I'm going to skip their hamster wheel, AND I'm going to skip the "death" part too.  Why would I play their fixed game?

    Early Treatment For Me.  My plan is that I'll live my life, eventually I'll get an infection, I'll treat it early, and then I'll have natural immunity.

    As for where variants arise from: you answered this one already:

    https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/

    Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 3:16am

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    Variants

    Variants come from mutations that occur when the virus makes copies of itself. This occurs if the virus gets inside our cells and our immune system doesn’t effectively neutralize the virus to keep it from replicating. Leaky vaccines do not stop this from happening. What we need is an immune system response that can keep the virus from making copies of itself. None of the current vaccines available do that. So whether you got the “jab”or not, variants can be created. Here is a website that attempts to map out the mutations. https://www.cbrc.kaust.edu.sa/covmt/

     

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 4:11am

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    DaveDD said:

    Yup, the narrative is focussed on narrowing down the "choices", and then lying about the only "valid" choice. Maybe we should ad a short summary for new PP visitors members giving an overview of the choices, the assumptions, the related risks, if right or wrong, and some links, something like this

     

    Choices
    Assumptions
    Potential benefits
    Potential risk of following this strategy

    No vaxx, no other interventions
    There is no virus
    Not living in fear
    - If virus does exist, you might get sick, suffer long haul effects, or die

    - Our society is pandemic focussed, you will be sidelined

    Vaxx, stop whining and take one for the team
    - Vaxxination is the only way to end this pandemic

    - The benefits of the vaxx outweight the risk

    - The vax is a classical vaccine, thoroughly tested, and there are no ulterior motives

    - The vaxx doesn't drive mutations
    Go with the flow, travel, enjoy life and the 'old normal' again. Avoid the anti-vax regulations
    - If the medium and long term risks, as per EUA, materialize, then it could be that the risks outweigh the benefits

    - More and more data is available about the risk factors, like age, certain comorbidities, serum levels of certain substances. For certain groups the risk could outweigh the benefits

    - Ulterior motives could range from monetary motives (Industrial Pharma Complex) to global government aspirations (WEF)

    - If the vax drives mutations, the probability of more severy vax evading mutations is non-zero, add to this the potential side-effects of the vax, the risks for the vaxxinated could outweigh the benefits

    Vaxx, but take supplements to avoid nefarious effects of spike protein
    The supplements can negate all the negative side effects
    Go with the flow, travel, enjoy life and the 'old normal' again. Avoid the anti-vax regulations
    The suspected toxicity of the spike proteine could be such that the long term negative effects could not be negated, e.g., the suspected "mad cow" disease

    No Vaxx, other interventions
    - I do not fall in the high-risk category

    - Repurposed drugs and supplements could reduce the risks, and they could buy us time to await the results of the current medical experiment

    - Natural immunity gives a better protection agains corona virusses than experimental vaxxines
    Avoid medium and long term potential risks
    - sanity does not return soon, the livelyhood, and potentiallt the life of non-vaxxed will be threatened
    - the long term risks of the vaxxines do not materialize

    Edit: my apologies for the horrible format, I tried to make a nice HTML table, but I failed miserably

     

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 4:52am

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    Koch's postulates?

    "A Canadian citizen from Alberta just won a court case where the government was unable to present evidence of the SARS-CoV-2 virus which would be needed to provide scientific proof underpinning all the pandemic regulations put forth in that province. They are in the process of reversing all emergency sanitary measures".

     

    Perhaps it is overkill to establish the virus' existence, but maybe not, now that the question of this has been raised.

    You really need to establish Koch's Postulates, namely that 1. the virus is found in abundance in all those suffering from the disease, 2 the organism can be isolated and grown in pure (cell) culture, 3 that the virus causes the disease when re-introduced into a subject (ferret? cat?), and 4, that the organism can be re-isolated and shown to be the same as the original isolate. There might be some special considerations for viruses.

    From an electron microscopy perspective, perhaps showing that the virus particles light up with gold labelled specific antibody would help with postulates 2 and 4.

    Of course it would be nice to show that the antibodies produced by those who have been inoculated with vaccine, actually bind the virus. If they don't, there is a problem. You sure can't trust big pharma!

    Does anyone know if any of this fundamental work has been done? If it hasn't then maybe the guy from Alberta had a stronger case than he realized, and that his example can be used and quoted elsewhere with greater finesse. Does anyone have access to a lab and/or electron microscope with the ability or interest to do this? It would also be very interesting to see more mainstream people check the contents of the vaccine.

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 6:39am

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    #59 is SPAM

    SPAM ALERT, #59

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 6:40am

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    DaveDD said:

    Of course this work has been done (link, link, link, link, etc). But we are past the point of no return. Some people believe we are lied to and viruses do no exist at all. They will not believe the pictures in the link, I'm pretty sure many of the PP visitors won't believe them either. Similarly, some think that the vaxxines are totally safe and all other data is fake news, i.e., facts are irrelevant from the viewpoint of policy and personal risk. This is nicely illustrated in the Netherlands by the difference between the politics and the RIVM, say, the Dutch CDC. The RIVM has a very nice overview of the groups at risk (link). That doesn't matter because politics are starting to "bombard" the unvaxxed with "data" about the risks of not vaxxing; facts don't matter.

    However, from a pure observational point of view, there is something going on which "sends" some groups of people to the hospital where they were initially killed due to the wrong crisis handling approach, btw, no-one is to blame for this imo as we have to learn right? Wether it is a virus, "bad air", or a psychological reaction due to fear is not relevant at this stage, again, we are way beyond the point of no return.

    Facts do not matter for the next 10 years or so. I suspect there will be progrom-like  mobs this fall and winter, at least, I consider it possible, very low probability but possible. Given that many anti-vaxxers are also preppers, this is also a nice incentive to "raid" these rats responsible for the mutations, and take what is theirs as reparation. If people already plunder stores and shops during mass protests; plundering the "rats" gives profit, plus a good feeling, and it saves humanity! Think of this forgotten piece of history:
    100 years ago, New York City declared war against polio and killed 72,000 cats (and 8,000 dogs)
    Logical thinking has never been a treat shared by the majority of humans in fear, i.e., education is wasted, it just delivers useful drones, no chip needs to be implanted for that.

    I would propose to place the priority on risk mitigation. The scientific debate is important, but given the politicized situation it should have a lower priority for people who are not protected by fame, wealth, or visibility to a large group of supporters.

    I hope I'm wrong, really, but I prepare for the case I'm right, I would advice you to do the same. Scientific debate is great, not before, but after risk mitigation imo.

     

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 7:55am

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    Individual risk?

    Can anyone provide links to paper that help determine individual COVID risk?

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 8:12am

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    Covid mortality risk calculator

    Here is a Covid risk calculator

    https://covid19risktools.com:8443/

    Now if only we had vaccine risk calculators.

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 8:32am

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    A War on Natural Immunity

    This article by Mercola is a must read.  Do it soon as we know it will be pulled down within 48 hours.

    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/08/06/war-on-natural-immunity.aspx?ui=e19aed4238a5a95256511f47afd760cd674d3759d241b705a8808acb2bdd24c3&sd=20060922&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art2HL&cid=20210806&mid=DM956569&rid=1227873969

    Be sure to read the comments on the article as well as there is interesting information pertaining to masks, etc.

    I am once again reminded of the following excerpt of events which played out in Germany (from 1933-1945) and are now manifesting here.

     

    https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 8:38am

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    a minor miracle

    It is interesting to me how, in my battle against cancer, so many measures that are effective against cancer are also effective against COVID19.  I sent the following to friends to give them an update on my condition and decided to share it here to give hope to those who may be fighting cancer, COVID, or a host of other diseases.

    I thought I'd share with you a minor miracle I experienced after almost a full year following my cancer diagnosis.  We had a south wind today which is usually an offshore breeze and means cold water at the beach but when I drove to the beach to check out conditions, the waves were quartering in so I decided to go for a swim.  I swam 1 mile down the beach with the chop and then 1 mile back against the chop.  On the way back, it was obviously slower going at first but then my second wind kicked in and I was plowing through the chop like a destroyer going after a submarine.  I swam 2 miles with no shoulder pain, no calf cramping, no fatigue, and finishing even stronger than I started.  In the past, at anything past 1 mile I will get some cramping in my left calf and sometimes the right (that I have to stop and stretch out while floating in the water) but I had none of that at double the distance.  My left shoulder (which has a torn rotator cuff, torn labrum, and pec major tear) will also tend to get a little sore but I had none of that.  Also, I had no spinal, pelvic, or hip pain from the bone cancer.  And I simply did not fatigue.  It was quite amazing.
     
    I would definitely attribute it to the plant based mostly raw vegan diet but I think the recent adoption of the green smoothies is a significant factor as well since I can feel a definite difference in my body with drinking them.  I had about a quart of such a smoothie today as part of my breakfast about a hour and a half before the swim.  Today's smoothie had baby spinach and baby kale from the grocery store, cultivated parsley and cilantro from the garden, and weeds from the garden including lambsquarters, purslane, and a little bit of dandelion and clover.  Fruits included a peach, apple, banana, two clementines, and a little bit each of blueberries and blackberries.  Additional ingredients included a scoop of organic, non-GMO plant protein powder, and a tablespoon of chia seeds soaked in a pint of water.
     
    To learn about the benefits of green smoothies, the book I recommend is "Green for Life" by Victoria Boutenko.  I have the original version but there's a newer updated version.  The blender I use is an old Vitamix 3600 Juice/Blender/Mixer Model 479029 made of all stainless steel that's at least 35 years old and still runs perfectly.  It's built like a battleship.  Unfortunately, the newer ones use more plastic and are probably not as robust but they still have a 10 year warranty.
     
    So things seem to be going very well on the health front.  The question is now, do I dare get off the two cancer meds I am on (one oral and one injected).  I am leaning towards risking it.

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 9:43am

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    The leaky vax analogy

    JXMc,

    The virus is like a river flowing steadily through the population. Eventually it finds a path of least resistance and carves it's natural path given enough time. If you drop a giant rock in the path to block the river (i.e. a vaccine) you don't stop the flow upstream so the river builds and builds until it finds a path around the boulder (immune escape). Eventually that boulder no longer holds back the water and it fractures and crumbles and the water flows more violently when the dam finally breaks (Dr GVB's hypothesis). Had the flow not been impeded, the destruction would not occur as violently, it would simply maintain its course until it reached bedrock and we could find safe treatments to bridge the flow. Unfortunately, the policy is to dam the river without controlling flow and we will have a series of devastating washouts as a result thanks to the vaccine and boosters.

    So you can see that the immune escape can ONLY come from the vaccinated. Otherwise the virus finds it's path of highest efficiency and becomes less deadly over time to the vast majority of the population as it is no longer a flood plain finding the easiest path, but a carved and mostly stable channel balancing co-morbidities and infectivity to acheive its main objective of genetic survival.

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 9:45am

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    Replying to a minor miracle (#69)

    Thanks for the info about Green Smoothies ao - I will definitely look for the book you recommend.

    I was just thinking about you yesterday and wondering how you are, so it's such a pleasant surprise to see your name appear here.  So happy for you that you are feeling great!  I think you are an inspiration to others who are coping with health issues.  Positive thinking is also very important, as the body reacts to what goes on in the brain...  May you enjoy continued feelings of health and well-being.

     

     

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 10:27am

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    questions

    GardensAreGreat-

    Thanks for the feedback. It is good to hear, and be corrected, by someone inside who is working on this in the lab. I do have a few questions:

    Why do you think that the CDC is revoking the EUA for the PCR tests? I thought that the lack of differentiating Covid from Flu was the reason since it stated that multiphasic tests should be used going forward. Is there a cheaper test? Is it the statements from it's creator? Do you think that the pandemic will be over? I am wondering because it is strange that it is being pulled when, as Chris has shown, it does help determine viral load in addition to Pos/Neg results. Maybe that is the reason? I do think that TPTB have played shenanigans with it over the last year. In 2020 they reported everyone with a CT rate up to 40 as positive then on January 21, they changed that to 35 and later to 28 for the vaccinated.

    What do you think happened with the flu? The flu has pretty much disappeared over the last year. Here is a link to this weeks Flu report from the Maine CDC:

    MaineILIweek2130.pdf (govdelivery.com)

    And here is the report from 2019:

    Weekly Surveillance Reports | MeCDC | Maine DHHS

    use August 4th file for 2019 to compare.

    I had been thinking that the disappearance of the flu coupled with the PCR test not being able to differentiate between the two fit together nicely and explained a lot. What do you think is going on with this dynamic?

    I am not being disingenuous, I really want to know your thoughts on this since you are an insider and probably have a better view into these issues than any of us do.

     

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 10:39am

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    written by Tessa Lena of

    That scathing opinion on Mercola's site on the war against all things natural was penned by Tessa Lena, who also wrote:

    The Great Reset is a massively funded, desperately ambitious, internationally coordinated project led by some of the biggest multinational corporations and financial players on the planet and carried out by cooperating state bodies and NGOs. Its soul is a combination of early 20th century science fiction, idyllic Soviet posters, the obsessiveness of a deranged accountant with a gambling addiction—and an upgraded, digital version of “Manifest Destiny.” (The Great Reset for Dummies)

     

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 10:45am

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    Kids + Covid + Delta ( please post a video diving into this)

    Chris, you have been a treasure throughout all of this. Could you please post a video on the data as it pertains to Kids (particularly under 12 that cant be vaccinated) and Covid and the new Delta variant.  Alarmist news headlines are suggesting the situation has gotten a lot worse for them.  Thank you!

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 11:02am

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    Thank you JWhite

    I appreciate your thoughts and sentiments.  And yes, positive thinking is very important or, as I used to express to my patients, having a positive expectancy of healing.  Again, I want to give a shout out to Olive Oil Guy for his encouragement and the information he provided.  I truly feel that he saved my life by giving me hope.  I try to pass that on to all who will listen. 

    Also, credit is due to LesPhelps for his efforts in presenting us with the virtues of a plant based diet despite some disparagement here, including, at one time, from myself.  My apologies Les and thank you for being persistent in your preaching.  It has paid dividends.

    I realize, however, that I neglected to include something of vital importance in my post.  

    Above all, I have seen God's hand and the power of prayer through all of this.  For example, my wife will find a book in the church thrift store where she works and bring it home saying, "This looks interesting. I was wondering if it might help you."  And it will have just the information I need to take my health to the next level.  That has happened so many times that I don't believe it's coincidence.  I don't believe in coincidences but I do believe in God.  

    This is a spiritual battle we're in folks.  The physical and psychological are indeed important but the spiritual cannot be neglected and, indeed, in the long run, it trumps all.

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 11:33am

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    A War on Natural Immunity

    Excellent article, but was it written by Mercola or Tess?  There is a link at the bottom to where it was originally published and its to:

    https://tessa.substack.com/p/war-natural

     

    *edit* I see someone else spotted that it was written by Tessa

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 1:37pm

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    What benefits the virus as it mutates?

    Jorj_X_McKie
    ...If variants arise from the unvaccinated, I can't logically or safely remain unvaxxed....

    ... your only options are 1) die from the inevitable variant that kills young people without co-morbidities, or 2) jump on the endless hamster wheel of vaccine > variant > booster > mega variant > triple vax > double killa variant, ad naseum.....

    You are forgetting about natural immunity from recovery from the infection that studies suggest is working GREAT.

    The recent variants are so infectious that everyone is going to get exposed in the near future.  That's why Pharma and friends are so desperate to cash in asap.  Remember many vaxxed people also have natural immunity.

    ZERO out of 11,000 healthcare workers in the UK reinfected.
    https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n99

    ZERO out of 1350 at the Cleveland Clinic reinfected.
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2

    Amazingly positive report out of Israel that Chris covered recently
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762

    Think about what benefits the virus as it mutates.  Better replication and being LESS harmful  allows the virus to be transmitted to more people.  Being more deadly does not benefit the virus.  When people become quite sick they quarantine and so the virus has reduced opportunities to spread.  A virus that spreads during mild illness while the infected person is still mingling in public has greater opportunity for spread.

    You will learn that variants can arise from vaxed and unvaxed.  That's not the primary issue when deciding whether to roll the dice with the vaccine.  How many high risk factors do you have?  Did you fix vitamin D insufficiency?  Do you have a plan with your doctor for outpatient treatment--Ivermectin along with the items in the FLCCC outpatient protocol?  etc.

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 2:02pm

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    Reply to IAMMichael

    Can't say for certain why the CDC revoked the EUA for the PCR tests, however I don't think it coincidence that Gates and Soros in a "humanitarian effort" bought Mologic a testing company manufacturer in the UK just weeks before the CDC revocation. No doubt it will be an FDA authorized company.

    CDC is providing this advance notice for clinical laboratories to have adequate time to select and implement one of the many FDA-authorized alternatives.”

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddawkins/2021/07/19/george-soros-and-bill-gates-backed-consortium-to-buy-uk-maker-of-covid-lateral-flow-tests-for-41-million/

    Why is the entire Covid plandemic seeming more and more like a controlled demolition?

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 2:06pm

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    variants are more likely in the vaxed - paper from late April 2021

    Yes, variant can arise in both populations.. but the vaxed are the ones that are applying the selection pressure against the spike protein itself.  This paper explains it;

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0250780

    Abstract:  The spike protein receptor-binding domain (RBD) of SARS-CoV-2 is the molecular target for many vaccines and antibody-based prophylactics aimed at bringing COVID-19 under control. Such a narrow molecular focus raises the specter of viral immune evasion as a potential failure mode for these biomedical interventions. With the emergence of new strains of SARS-CoV-2 with altered transmissibility and immune evasion potential, a critical question is this: how easily can the virus escape neutralizing antibodies (nAbs) targeting the spike RBD? To answer this question, we combined an analysis of the RBD structure-function with an evolutionary modeling framework. Our structure-function analysis revealed that epitopes for RBD-targeting nAbs overlap one another substantially and can be evaded by escape mutants with ACE2 affinities comparable to the wild type, that are observed in sequence surveillance data and infect cells in vitro. This suggests that the fitness cost of nAb-evading mutations is low. We then used evolutionary modeling to predict the frequency of immune escape before and after the widespread presence of nAbs due to vaccines, passive immunization or natural immunity. Our modeling suggests that SARS-CoV-2 mutants with one or two mildly deleterious mutations are expected to exist in high numbers due to neutral genetic variation, and consequently resistance to vaccines or other prophylactics that rely on one or two antibodies for protection can develop quickly -and repeatedly- under positive selection. Predicted resistance timelines are comparable to those of the decay kinetics of nAbs raised against vaccinal or natural antigens, raising a second potential mechanism for loss of immunity in the population. Strategies for viral elimination should therefore be diversified across molecular targets and therapeutic modalities.

    .....

    Going forward, our work suggests strategies for designing SARS-CoV-2 prophylactics that are more resistant to viral evolution. First, nAbs should be used in combinations, preferably targeting more than two non-overlapping epitopes. Strategies for the design of prophylactic antibodies and vaccines should involve combining nAbs that bind to non-overlapping escape mutant regions, including those from smaller, distinct clusters outside the RBD. Alternatively, if antibodies from the same cluster are used, escape mutants must be carefully characterized to ensure they do not overlap [21]. Similarly, vaccines should be evaluated based on the number of SARS-CoV-2 point mutations required to disarm the neutralizing antibodies they generate.

    Second, the evolutionary pressure on the virus will determine the speed at which resistance to nAbs emerges. The more widely a given epitope is targeted by biomedical intervention, and the more effective it is, the more rapidly it will generate resistance (Fig 4). This is a potential weakness of focusing on only a handful of vaccines (or epitopes) for global deployment. The effectiveness of nAb-based interventions for disease control will depend on how many different interventions are deployed, how many mutations are required to evade each intervention, and the extent to which their escape mutations overlap.

    And here, also from the same paper, is the section that exactly describes which population is driving the selection pressure, noting that Naive (immunity) = unvaccinated;

    These kinetics suggest the immune response in naïve individuals exerts limited selection pressure on the virus, consistent with direct genetic evidence from deep sequencing showing little to no positive selection [6]. Hence, the evolutionary rate prior to the widespread deployment of vaccines or development of natural immunity (based primarily on neutral genetic drift) may underestimate the evolutionary potential of the virus to evade nAbs deployed as active immunity (vaccines) or passive immunity (nAb prophylactics). When nAbs are broadly present in the population, population-level selection for antibody-evading, infection-competent viral mutants may result in a rapid resurgence of SARS-CoV-2 infections.

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 2:18pm

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    tessa articles

    I have to say, I really can't disagree with anything she says.  Nits here and there but perhaps 95% agreement.

    https://tessa.substack.com/p/great-reset-dummies

    The Great Reset for Dummies

    https://tessa.substack.com/p/war-natural

    A War on (Free) Natural Immunity

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 3:14pm

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    GardensAreGreat said:

    Wow you asked a lot of good questions!

    First let me be clear that I am a research scientist. I don’t work in diagnostic testing, have never worked as a med tech. But, I do understand the technology. I will also try to be very clear in what are facts vs strong opinions based on my experience.

    I have no idea why the EAU is being revoked for the COVID test. All I remember reading is that the covid test was going to be replaced by a test that could do flu and COVID simultaneously. I can tell you why that is a good thing. In my work, some of my supplies overlap with what are used for covid testing. For example, disposable gloves, pipet tips (used to move small amounts of liquid from one small container(such as a microfuge tube) to another tube. And, I use those tubes as well. So… guess what else gets backordered? Yup, those gloves, pipet tips, and microfuge tubes. The small company I work at has had those items on backorder for a long time. Sometimes we pay a very much higher price to order them from a place that can get us what we need when we need it. I suspect covid testing places have priority. So a test that can use fewer supplies (such as the multiphasic one) is a good thing for us research scientists.

    No idea if there is a cheaper test. But, I would guess no to that. I’m also guessing without looking into it that the test is still basically the same (still a PCR test). Were you asking about Kary Mullis? PCR was invented back in the 1980’s. His comment about not using PCR for diagnostics…as far as I know he never worked in diagnostics so I don’t think that comment means much.  Also, there have been a lot of improvements in PCR technology since the 1980s. In my opinion, it would not have been a good test in the 80’s but I think it’s a good test now. Highly specific, quantitative, robotic, can do a lot of samples, fast and cost effective.

    I think we will be seeing Covid circulate for quite some time, unfortunately. I sure as heck want things to be “back to normal” . I would be delighted to be wrong.

    Do you have information that you can link to saying that the new test will not provide a Ct? I was not aware of that. Do you have info that the number of cycles run on a covid test has been changed that you could provide? I have read numerous times that the cycle number had changed on posts but have never seen the documentation to support that. I wouldn’t be surprised if that were true, but would like that verified.

    I know that there have been very few flu cases in the US. That one seems easy to explain. Flu starts in the southern hemisphere about 6 months before we get it up here. Travel was vastly reduced so much less came up here to begin with. Secondly the R0 of flu is between 1-2. Substantially lower than Covid. R0 (the number of infections generated by 1 infection) can be changed/lowered. So, the lack of kids in school, people masking up and staying home probably kept the R0 at 1 or less.

    I would be really, really, really surprised if the Covid test did not distinguish between Covid and flu. When a pcr test is designed, 2 primers are used to amplify the gene of interest. A primer is a small fragment (about 20 basepairs in length). I would expect that whoever designed this would have searched genomic datatbases for a possible match to other viruses. Maybe that didn’t happen. We have certainly seen a lot of strange [email protected]#.

    We all know that there has been a lot of misinformation from media, Fauci, higherups. But, I also believe there are likely other sources of misinformation. Russia, Iran, China etc. That’s another reason why I don’t necessarily believe what I read (such as pcr test not distinguishing between covid and flu). This is why I like Chris! Data! And Dave F because he usually puts in links to support his info.

    If you have more comments/questions please pm me if you post again. Some of these threads get so long it’s really easy to miss. I tend to quit reading them once they get older than 1-2 weeks.

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 3:36pm

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    Opposing view presented re Alberta legal win

    https://www.rebelnews.com/patrick_king_ezra_levant_homemade_law_deena_hinshaw_alberta_lockdown

    This is an alternate view stating that things are not as they appear or as indicated by Patrick King, who is claiming victory.

    One thing I certainly agree with: people desperately need hope!

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 3:55pm

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    Answers-Thank you

    GardensAreGreat

    Thanks for the response!

    I have no information about the new tests that are replacing the PCR test. So I don't know if the new ones will have a CT or not. I think that even though the CT can be used inappropriately, it can also be used to great effect as shown in Chris' video. I guess it is like any other tool.

    Best Regards

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 4:12pm

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    wotthecurtains said:

    Thanks for the follow-up.

    Ezra is a weird guy to me.  I've always looked at him as a "professional shit disturber" but I also thought he was a hero for the way he handled himself with the Human Rights Tribunal that came after him for reprinting the cartoon of Muhammad.

    He recorded his deposition and may have been drinking a beer while doing it.   At one point the prosecutor asked him what his intent was when he printed the cartoon and his answer was (paraphrasing):

    "I did it for whatever reason makes me guilty in the eyes of the judge.   I did it to incite.  I did it to make people feel bad.  I did it to hurt feelings."

    Watching that deposition was one of the more transcendental moments of my youth.

     

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  • Fri, Aug 06, 2021 - 11:58pm

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    anti-covid drugs ?

    https://www.foxnews.com/health/cholesterol-drug-coronavirus-infection

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-08-potential-covid-medication-tapeworm-drugs.html

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  • Sat, Aug 07, 2021 - 11:05am

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    Friedrichs_teeth said:

    And furthering the niacin thing. As your body fights covid it uses up the stores of niacin leaving the body low and causing the anxiety.

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  • Sat, Aug 07, 2021 - 11:59am

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    BEST TREATMENT FOR mRNA

    CURRENT POTENTIAL TREATMENTS CONSIDERATIONS BASED UPON BEST AVAILABLE EVIDENCE RESEARCH RESULTS - FOCUSING ON SPECIFIC COMPONENTS - FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN VACCINATED

    (Give This To Your Doctor)Based upon the best available evidence currently being collected, the fundamental goals for treating potential complications from drug vaccine delivery of genetic material, includes first blocking the Nuclear Protein Complex (NPC), to minimize continued entry and re-entry of this genetic material into the cellular nuclear region where reverse transcription (RT) could occur; protecting the native human DNA.

    The next step is to remove any circulation spike proteins, minimizing the potential harm they might cause including Inflammo Thrombotic Response (ITR) disease and Prion diseases. The next logical step would be to interfere with any reuptake of spike protein by host cells that could serve as potential new sources of prions, mRNA or DNA, with potential RT, or any other potential sources of SARS-CoV-2 genetic material or any other genetic or non-genetic material circulating from the injected drug vaccines.

    The fourth goal is to minimize any potential damage caused by the prion-like domains (PLDs) including reducing the potential longer term neurologic, cardiac, and other organ tissue damage.

     

    This sequence of steps will hopefully reduce the genetic load introduced into the body by these drug vaccines. By interfering with the entry and re-entry of this genetic material through the NPC through this series of steps, this will hopefully provide adequate time for sufficient glycosylase enzyme removal of genetic bases or nucleotide excision - repair mechanisms - of any damaged DNA; through continued encouragement of transcription of the viral – and other – genetic material, increasing the potential for these DNA repairs to occur.

    In essence, by reducing the active viral or spike protein load through these steps, the increased transcription required for maintenance of the genetic code or protein products, will increase the potential for DNA excision repair and exhaust or at a minimum fatigue the viral genetic load.

    Step 1:  Stop the Reverse Transcriptase (RT) – Block the Nuclear Protein Complex (NPC)

    (A) Ivermectin 0.2-0.4 mg/kg body weight by mouth (PO) every two weeks.

    Step 2: Remove Spike Protein in circulation that could cause ITR or prion-like initiated amyloid or equivalent plaquing.

    (A) Casirivimab 1200 mg & Imdevimab 1200 mg pr ovided intravenously together as a single infusion over a minimum of 60-minutes.

    Step 3A: Reduce further uptake of Spike protein by cells throughout the body including transmission across the Blood Brain Barrier (BBB).

    (A) Primaquine 200 mg orally given once – Targets ACE2 receptor.

    (B) Clindamycin 150 mg orally every 6-hours for 7-days – Targets transmembrane protease serine 2 (TMPRSS2) receptor.

    (C) Hydroxychloroquine 200 mg orally twice a week – Targets ACE2 receptor.

    Step 3B: Reduce further translation of mRNA to spike protein.

    (A) The Primaquine from 3A also inhibits viral protein translation (production of spike protein from mRNA).

    (B) The Clindamycin from 3A also inhibits viral protein translation; reduces ITR by reducing tissue necrosis factor – alpha (TNF-α) and interleukin-1 beta (IL-1β).

    (C) The Hydroxychloroquine from 3A enhances zinc entry through the zinc ionophore; enhances the production of type 1 interferons, interferes with ribosomal translation of the spike protein, reduces interleukin-6 (IL-6) levels; increases cellular pH thereby decreasing viral antigen (mRNA or spike-protein) major histocompatability complex (MHC) presentation of the spike protein to Β-cells reducing antibody formation and ITR.

    (D) Zinc 10 mg orally (po) daily. While this may also interfere with the ACE2 receptor, it also interferes with RNA dependent RNA polymerase (RdRP).

    (E) Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) 2000 mg orally (po) daily to reduce ITR.

    (F) 1,25-dihydroxycholecalciferol (Vitamin D3) 1500 IU orally (po) daily to reduce ITR.

    Step 4: Address potential amyloid production and neurologic sequlae resulting from prion-like domains on spike protein.

    (A) Either heparin 5000 units subcutaneously every 12 hours OR Enoxaparin 1mg/kg body weight subcutaneously every 12 hours.

     

    AND

     

    (B) Aspirin 325 mg tablets (once or twice daily as tolerated),

    (C) Treat ApoE through dietary and lifestyle factors; HMG CoA-reductase inhibitors or Probucol [An ATP-binding transporter A1 (ABCA1)].

    (D) Niacin (Vitamin B3) 15 mg twice daily.

    This treatment recommendation is the best known as of June, 2021.

     

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  • Sat, Aug 07, 2021 - 3:24pm

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    COVID Vaccines and Leaky Blood Vessels

    https://doctors4covidethics.org/leaky-blood-vessels-an-unknown-danger-of-covid-19-vaccination/

    The proposed mechanism
    The first injection will induce the expression of spike protein, and the formation of specific antibodies to it. Re-vaccination will lead to a second round of spike protein production, including in endothelial cells. The antibodies, now already present, will bind to these spikes and will direct attack of the complement system to these cells. Neutrophil granulocytes, too, will be activated by antibodies bound to the endothelial cells. Vascular damage and leakage will ensue.

    The novel coronavirus’ spike protein plays additional key role in illness

    Similarly, scientists studying other coronaviruses have long suspected that the spike protein contributed to damaging vascular endothelial cells, but this is the first time the process has been documented.

    In the new study, the researchers created a “pseudovirus” that was surrounded by SARS-CoV-2 classic crown of spike proteins, but did not contain any actual virus. Exposure to this pseudovirus resulted in damage to the lungs and arteries of an animal model—proving that the spike protein alone was enough to cause disease. Tissue samples showed inflammation in endothelial cells lining the pulmonary artery walls.

     

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  • Sat, Aug 07, 2021 - 8:43pm

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    Incorrect conclusions being drawn regarding this case!!

    The conclusions drawn in this video are not correct.  The Alberta man did not 'win' his case - it was dropped, which is different; and the fact that the Medical Officer of Health did not produce evidence of 'isolation of the Sars-Cov-2 virus' doesn't equate to Mr. King being able to take credit for Alberta changing their health restrictions.  Viva Frei is a Canadian lawyer who has a Vlog where he comments on current legal issues in North America.  He explains in this video that the reason the 'evidence' asked for was not produced was likely because there was a problem with the subpoena received from Mr. King, rendering it invalid.  People who represent themselves in court often don't know the proper procedures and formalities necessary, and it seems this fellow is an example of that.

    https://rumble.com/vksid7-alberta-man-beats-covid-ticket-but-what-does-it-mean-stew-peters-patrick-ki.html

    An update to his comments is in this video, in addition to his observations on the current polarized thinking of people in our society.

    https://rumble.com/vktf1b-viva-on-the-street-patrick-king-update-and-new-brunswick-retrospective-viva.html

    Viva Frei is a character and fun to watch, in my opinion.  The little dog which accompanies him in his videos joined their family as a puppy this past winter and it will go blind within a year due to a hereditary disease, but he chose it in order to try to give it a nice life.

     

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  • Sat, Aug 07, 2021 - 9:02pm

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    Patrick King seems naïve

    Justice Centre statement about “Freedom Fighter Court Victory” video

    The Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms also doesn't believe Patrick King won anything. It seems they are politely laughing at him. I think the issue is that he was in court regarding a $1200 ticket but demanded the provincial health officer to come to the court to show proof the virus has been "isolated". That's not relevant to the issue at hand, that being the ticket. So no proof was presented.

    I listened to King ramble on in that interview and wondered why more people can't hear it for what it is. He doesn't know what he's talking about!

     

    Where does this idea that the virus hasn't been "isolated" come from? What does "isolated" actually mean? I have been hearing this accusation thrown around from the get go. But there's all those videos of Chris and others looking right up close at the guts of the coronavirus from last year. It gets studied continuously all around the world.

    The 'conspiracy theory" crowd come off sounding really unsophisticated a lot of the time, which isn't helping anything!

     

    Why Alberta decided to drop all restrictions is a mystery to me. It's kind of a relief to hear it, but it also seems a little extreme. I live close to the border with Alberta and I bet residents will freak out about them coming to our town (more than before)!

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  • Sat, Aug 07, 2021 - 11:19pm

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    Friedrichs_teeth said:

    Ezra Levant posted on this.

    Did a regular guy from Red Deer, Alberta really figure out how to dismantle all of the lockdown laws in Canada?

    Patrick King is that man. And he says that’s exactly what he’s done. And in a viral video interview with an American commentator named Stew Peters, King says his July 21st court hearing was the reason why Alberta is now lockdown free — there isn’t even a mask rule anymore!

    It sounds incredible. Dozens of experienced lawyers haven’t been able to do that.

    But is it true? If you haven’t seen the video yet, click here — I show you the first ten minutes of it, and I take you through the transcript of Patrick King’s first court appearance:

    REALITY CHECK: Did one man from Red Deer, Alberta figure out how

to stop the lockdowns?

    I wish Patrick King had found some secret way to stop the lockdowns. If he did, we’d immediately have lawyers across Canada doing what he claims he did.

    But it just didn’t happen.

    The lockdowns in Alberta were lifted on July 1st, as a result of enormous political pressure combined with falling hospitalizations. King’s court appearance wasn’t until July 21st. How could it be responsible for lifting a lockdown three weeks earlier?

    By King’s own admission, none of his homemade tactics succeeded.

    • He tried to subpoena Deena Hinshaw, the public health officer of Alberta, but he didn’t do it properly — the subpoena he served was invalid.
    • He tried to challenge the constitutionality of the law itself, but he didn’t do it properly — he didn’t give the government the required notice to raise those issues.
    • He tried to get Hinshaw to testify in his case, about his $1,200 ticket, but he didn’t do it properly — she had no material knowledge about his ticket, and that’s what was on trial, not the entire lockdown itself or how the lockdown laws were written.

    Patrick King doesn’t have a secret strategy. Every one of his homemade legal tactics failed. But he managed to convince a U.S. pundit, who knows nothing about Canada, that he is the reason Alberta is free, and that if only others follow his method, the rest of the country will be free, too.

    I wish that were true, because then we’d be out of this mess. But that’s quackery — it’s like he’s selling a magic potion. I can understand why people desperately want to believe him, because nothing else seems to be working.

    I should tell you, in our lawsuit to challenge Trudeau's airport quarantine hotel “jails”, our lawyers have in fact cross-examined the public health officials at Health Canada. Those officials made dramatic admissions that there was no science behind them. The Federal Court still upheld the quarantine.

    In the prosecution of Pastor James Coates, Alberta Health Services officials were cross-examined by his lawyers. They admitted under oath that they brought police to the church just to impress the media. They still convicted Pastor Coates.

    In our defence of Pastor Artur Pawlowski, we are cross-examining every public official, including the police officers. That hasn’t stopped the government from prosecuting him.

    The idea of grilling public officials isn’t something that everyone else just forgot about, until Patrick King thought of it one day.

    It’s hard not to like King’s style — he comes across as a happy warrior, a David who defeated Goliath. You’ve got to like his fighting spirit.

    But every word he said is either wrong by accident — or misleading on purpose.

    I’ve thought long and hard about why his interview on that American channel has gone so viral and why so many people are angry at me for pointing out that King did not do what he claims to have done.

    It’s because Canadians want hope so very badly, and we don’t see it coming from anywhere else — not from any political party, not from the courts, not from the medical professions and certainly not from the media. And along comes a colourful character telling you a secret trick that he claims he just figured out.

    He didn’t.

    I wish he had. But he didn’t.

    Yours truly,

    Ezra Levant

    P.S. There is no easy way out of this. Every system has failed us, from politicians to judges to journalists. Maybe a solution will come through hard work or maybe through a miracle. But Patrick King is not a miracle-worker — he’s a false prophet.

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  • Sun, Aug 08, 2021 - 3:02pm

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    Bromhexine

    For those looking to buy bromhexine or brontex here it is www.heatlhypill.com . Just received my parcel, took around 10 days to arrive.

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  • Sun, Aug 08, 2021 - 3:14pm

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    Kat43 said:

    Thanks Paul, I ordered bromhexine from them last week.  What dosage do you expect to take?

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  • Sun, Aug 08, 2021 - 3:26pm

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    Bromhexine

    Nice! it is crazy couldn't find any to buy on ebay. It used to be many post of bromhexine on ebay like year ago or so, but luckily I found them. It looked suspicious at first but I took a risk. The products are good though and it's not a scam. Back to the question, It says 8-16mg 3 times a day. But what are your thoughts on dosage? By the way did you receive yr order yet? What's yr experience with them?

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  • Sun, Aug 08, 2021 - 3:45pm

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    Kat43 said:

    I have no experience with this supplier.  I haven't received it yet but only order it last Wednesday.  I have been thinking maybe 8 mg twice a day.

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  • Sun, Aug 08, 2021 - 4:03pm

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    2retired said:

    Nice to see governments having to work harder to keep people in line; this fellow seems to have struck a nerve somewhere, also buried in the text of the justice centre release:

    There is no indication that Mr. King’s case is connected to the relaxing of Covid restrictions in Alberta which fully opened on July 1, 2021. The Government of Alberta states they have opened the province due to achieving the government’s stated goal of 70% of Albertans receiving their first vaccine. Whether that is the reason, or there are other reasons, remains to be discovered in future court hearings.

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  • Sun, Aug 08, 2021 - 9:04pm

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    Maddie's post-vax experience

    On October 22, 2020, about 6 weeks prior to the first COVID vaccine being administered in the US, FDA held a meeting regarding vaccine side effects monitoring.

    https://www.fda.gov/media/143557/download

    Page 16 shows a list of potential side effects they were proactively considering. Notice they are not "garden variety" effects like soreness at injection site, but many are characteristic of COVID, e.g. cardiovascular effects.  The list of symptoms implies FDA must have anticipated that spike protein exposure might mimic features of COVID illness absent exposure to the virus itself.

    Of particular note to Maddie's case is the reference to Multisymptom Inflammatory Syndrome in Children (MIS-C). Not previously described in the literature until the advent of COVID, children present with severe abdominal pain and distress, cardiac dysfunction, and shock.  It seems related to a cytokine storm.  Not sure why children at at risk.

    Maddie felt like her heart was coming out of her neck, a symptom of pericarditis. No child invents such a specific and characteristic description. Furthermore, Her symptoms initially were gastrointestinal. Is there a possibility of vax-induced MIS-C in her case?

    The VAERS entry for her experience (can't find it at present) separates the symptoms individually rather than considering them as a group or syndrome.

    Given the foreknowledge implied by the list of symptoms in the October 2020 meeting, the possibility of such side effects should have been disclosed at least to study participants and probably to the public at large. And given that the typical approval process was not followed, there should have been active, prospective surveillance of vaccine effects.

    FDA's own guidelines on EUAs, issued 2017, stipulate that people be informed of

    “the significant known and potential benefits and risks associated with the emergency use of the product, and of the extent to which such benefits and risks are unknown.” [emphasis mine].

    https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/emergency-use-authorization-medical-products-and-related-authorities

    Telling Maddie that she had anxiety and that her GI symptoms were due to an eating disorder seems a cruel form of gaslighting.

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  • Sun, Aug 08, 2021 - 9:10pm

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    Source?

    What is your source for this please?

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  • Sun, Aug 08, 2021 - 9:44pm

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    Stph said:

    "The 'conspiracy theory" crowd come off sounding really unsophisticated a lot of the time, which isn't helping anything!"  I think it is all part of the gaslighting. QAnon did immense damage to many people's motivation: why do anything yourself when the Power Rangers are going to show up any minute to set things right! Better to stand around the campfire telling each other scary and impossible stories instead of read a history book and maybe a book by Bernays.

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  • Sun, Aug 08, 2021 - 11:14pm

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    uk daily news print

    Daily UK News daily News Postly News Post Mag Shop now in UK Today deals by News Postly Deals News Post Mag daily UK news US News Postly Latest news mag UK news Latest Celebrity and Entertainment News sports updates

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  • Mon, Aug 09, 2021 - 12:04am

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    How does reverse transcription occur?

    How can reverse transcription occur without reverse transcriptase? Unless you have HIV infection I don't see how the mRNAs will alter DNA.

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  • Mon, Aug 09, 2021 - 12:32am

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    Misinterpretation of the statistics.

    I reviewed the study:
    - 44165 participants, vaccine: 22030; placebo: 22030, rest lost.

    - 77 covid cases in vaccinated group; 850 covid cases in placebo group

    -15 in the vaccinated group died; 14 in the placebo group died.

    The confusion here is that you assume the people who died came from the population of covid infected individuals: 77+850= 927 people. The reality is that the people who died came from the population of the study participants: 22030+22030= 44060 people.

    The CORRECT death rate comparison is:
    - Vaccinated group: 15/22030
    - Placebo group: 14/22030

    You should NOT have compared it using the Covid individuals:
    - Vaccine group: 15/77
    - Placebo group: 14/850
    (This interpretation WRONG.)

    I did not go into the supplementary appendix which these data are further elaborated, but I see no need to.

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  • Mon, Aug 09, 2021 - 4:03am

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    Stph

    I'm sorry, being thought of as unsophisticated is really low on my list of concerns. I keep having to come up with new conspiracy theories because the old ones keep coming true.

    Honestly, I am looking at the price of gold drop and trying to figure out who is in big trouble and is having to liquidate their gold to meet their margin calls on monday. So I have something to chew on for today's new conspiracy theory.

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  • Mon, Aug 09, 2021 - 7:05am

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    wrong?

    Kim L Law-

    Maybe I missed what you were complaining about.  To me, my interpretation of those statistics were, there was no "all cause mortality benefit" to being in the vaccine group.

    That's what I'm looking for in a vaccine for a deadly disease.  An all cause mortality benefit.  That's the first, and easiest stop along this particular bus line.

    No all cause mortality benefit -> not a very good vaccine product, especially for a deadly disease that's killed 600,000 people in the US alone.  Especially when adverse effects are double in the vaccine group vs the placebo group.

    "Same amount of death, with twice the number of adverse events!"

    You will, of course, find this in the appendix, pages 11 and 12.

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  • Mon, Aug 09, 2021 - 7:39am

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    Kim L. Law said:

    Yes, according to the pfizer study their vaccine does not improve all cause mortality. PhilH interpreted the results as vaccination INCREASING mortality compared to placebo. This inference is incorrect from the data provided.

    One must also take into the account of the atrocious sample of the study. It is almost impossible to make any conclusions based on the pfizer study because it was extremely manipulated. The sample used for both groups DOES NOT represent the average population anywhere. Therefore it is a useless study as one cannot make any inference on any real populations worldwide.

    One could read the pfizer study as: pfizer vaccine do not change all cause mortality to really healthy people and will give them some vaccine reactions.

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  • Mon, Aug 09, 2021 - 9:18am

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    bad trial structure by PFE

    PhilH interpreted the results as vaccination INCREASING mortality compared to placebo. This inference is incorrect from the data provided.

    Ah.  This wasn't clear from your post.

    Yes, in that case, I agree with you.  No better and no worse, in terms of all-cause mortality.  (One more death isn't statistically significant - although the trend doesn't exactly look all that great.)

    But that's a pretty awful result if you're actually trying to reduce mortality with your product, right?

    As for the company - if they decided not to pick people who would benefit from this treatment in their trial - well the burden is on THEM to show me that this will make a difference in my life.  They have utterly failed to do so.  At least in my eyes.

    Same mortality, with double the adverse events.   And who-knows-what 3-year effects.  This we'll know - 2 years from now.

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  • Mon, Aug 09, 2021 - 9:43am

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    Reverse-Transciption of SARS COV 2 in Human Cells....

    Kim;

    Here are a few papers which might interest you, regarding RT of SARS COV 2:

    https://21a86421-c3e0-461b-83c2-cfe4628dfadc.filesusr.com/ugd/659775_be52a1fd17a84885847c2b8775fbfe6b.pdf

    https://21a86421-c3e0-461b-83c2-cfe4628dfadc.filesusr.com/ugd/659775_943d196d0d024325b2735b0666e14dc0.pdf

    https://21a86421-c3e0-461b-83c2-cfe4628dfadc.filesusr.com/ugd/659775_f1b8c5e7b57544d091a5eb458a513fec.pdf

    https://21a86421-c3e0-461b-83c2-cfe4628dfadc.filesusr.com/ugd/659775_e58341843e2144e4a30c0eb1bf439522.pdf.

    https://21a86421-c3e0-461b-83c2-cfe4628dfadc.filesusr.com/ugd/659775_404687bc70984491bafd5bb8b25be869.pdf

    https://21a86421-c3e0-461b-83c2-cfe4628dfadc.filesusr.com/ugd/659775_265cb97bf3bc4d25927f8c074ca6b51d.pdf

    There are lots of them...

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  • Mon, Aug 09, 2021 - 10:40am

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    Anecdotal but Alarming

    I work in population health and long term care. I speak with providers at dozens of nursing homes every week. I can report anecdotally that the vast majority (90+%) of hospitalized elderly patients had been vaccinated. I suspect, from the stories I'm hearing that this "vaccination" is having an adverse affect on the innate immune systems of elderly patients. I would be interested if anyone else is observing this trend?

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  • Mon, Aug 09, 2021 - 12:01pm

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    Kim L. Law Thank you

    Thank you for the analysis

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  • Mon, Aug 09, 2021 - 1:09pm

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    Banality of Evil

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  • Mon, Aug 09, 2021 - 3:01pm

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    I would love to know which music uses Mr. Martenson!

    I would love to know which artist belongs the music that Mr. Martenson uses on the beginning and end of his videos PLEASE!

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  • Mon, Aug 09, 2021 - 8:22pm

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    Chris should interview this guy!

    https://rumble.com/vkwcb4-dr-dan-stock-specialist-in-immunology-and-inflammation-says-cdc-and-nih-is-.html

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  • Mon, Aug 09, 2021 - 10:08pm

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    Vinny said:

    I've really been perplexed by the 14+15 death count. (First it took me a long time to find the supplemental appendix... it's not in the provided link in the video but you can find it here)

    Looking at the average fatality rate in the US here and assuming the demographics are close enough to the average (it's sloppy because demographics of the study are not average and the 44k are not all US citizens etc. but I'm looking for a ballpark #) would give a typical mortality of 44k people over 6 months in the 350 area... so how can it possibly be right that there are only 14+15 deaths during this period in the trial?

    Checking back in the original article: "During the blinded, controlled period, 15 BNT162b2 and 14 placebo recipients died;"... It's not clear to me but I believe I understand from the article that 'unblinding' occurred 7 days after dose 2. If so that would make the blinded period only 28 days.. and the average mortality of 44k people over 28 days would be closer to 50... 14+15 is still oddly below that... but not as outrageously so.

    The data we really want to see is if there is any indication of increased mortality from any cause in the vaccinated group. I'm pretty sure that data is not being shown in the article.

     

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  • Mon, Aug 09, 2021 - 11:48pm

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    BEST TREATMENT FOR mRNA

    Yes Ision, who wrote these recommendations?  I'm excited to have several of these substances already but as a non-expert the names behind the recommendation mean a lot.

    This list looks like exactly what Ive been looking for!

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  • Tue, Aug 10, 2021 - 1:34am

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    Reply to: Chris should interview this guy!

    Wow, that is a concise, rational 7-minute summary of everything we have done wrong in dealing with this virus. Pure gold.

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  • Tue, Aug 10, 2021 - 8:23am

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    full FDA approval

    OK, so looking at this 6 month study, how do we get from this to full FDA approval? I don't know of any rules that allow an EUA becoming full approval before the phase 3 studies are even completed. Not that they are following any of the rules so far. They have alternative treatments, so the EUA should not have been put in place to begin with. If these were actual vaccines with a track record maybe, but these are not that at all. They are gene therapies that before this never made it into human trials because the animals all kept dying from ADE.

    I think that some doctors should call into the public comment part of the approval meeting to complain and put them on notice that they are committing crimes against humanity, in those terms so that anyone on that approval board cannot say "we didn't know" once the trials begin. Although our Just-Us system has been pretty pathetic lately as well, allowing companies to mandate vaccination down in Texas (Methodist Hospital) and elsewhere.

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  • Tue, Aug 10, 2021 - 8:47am

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    AssessX anecdotes

    I've anecdotally observed similar phenomenon. In my quiet suburb I see almost every other day when I get home from work, ambulances drive into the town lights blaring, and then casually driving off... as if nothing more can be done medically.

    I've called funeral homes too. They say they are at max capacity.

    Every vaccinated friend or colleague I have too is starting to tell me how their medical problems are manifesting. They say they've always had it though but in the last few months more drastic medical procedures need to happen.

    None of this was happening last year but its nothing to do with the vaccine though. They're certain of it...

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  • Tue, Aug 10, 2021 - 3:47pm

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    FINALLY

    a study designed to SUCCEED

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  • Tue, Aug 10, 2021 - 5:41pm

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    Dr. Vladimir Zelenko speaking to the Israeli Health Minister

    Apologies if this was already posted, but this one's important.

    (Bump)




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  • Tue, Aug 10, 2021 - 7:11pm

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    Dontknownothin said:

    Link?

    I loved that interview Time2help. Do you have the link available so I can send it out?

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  • Tue, Aug 10, 2021 - 8:08pm

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    Need this link please

    Thankyou

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  • Tue, Aug 10, 2021 - 8:32pm

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    link to Dr. Vladimir Zelenko speaking to the Israeli Health Minister

    Here's the link to Dr. Zelenko's talk:

    https://www.bitchute.com/embed/WsvhxBD4k1uZ/

    I was able to find that link using a Firefox browser, putting my cursor on the video in post 118, right clicking and selecting "open frame in a new tab."  The new tab has the bitchute link.

     

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  • Thu, Aug 12, 2021 - 12:04pm

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    Zelenko

    Unbelieveable - waiting for end of the interview two of the ministers present thank Dr Zelenko for saving them with his protocol begging the question,

    "Why can't every other Jew have the same treatment?"

    George Orwell said, "Some pigs are more equal than others." Animal Farm

    It is sad to say here in France that we are a long way behind the US in getting out of this mess. Doctors do not even admit that the vaccination causes blood clots.

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  • Thu, Aug 12, 2021 - 10:11pm

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    Infection-enhancing anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies recognize both the original Wuhan/D614G strain and Delta variants. A potential risk for mass vaccination?

    Infection-enhancing anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies recognize both the original Wuhan/D614G strain and Delta variants. A potential risk for mass vaccination?

    Highlights

    • Infection-enhancing antibodies have been detected in symptomatic Covid-19
    • Antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) is a potential concern for vaccines
    • Enhancing antibodies recognize both the Wuhan strain and Delta variants
    • ADE of Delta variants is a potential risk for current vaccines
    • Vaccine formulations lacking ADE epitope are suggested

    Abstract

    "Antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) of infection is a safety concern for vaccine strategies. In a recent publication, Li et al. (Cell 184 :1-17, 2021) have reported that infection-enhancing antibodies directed against the N-terminal domain (NTD) of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein facilitate virus infection in vitro, but not in vivo. However, this study was performed with the original Wuhan/D614G strain.

    Since the Covid-19 pandemic is now dominated with Delta variants, we analyzed the interaction of facilitating antibodies with the NTD of these variants. Using molecular modelling approaches, we show that enhancing antibodies have a higher affinity for Delta variants than for Wuhan/D614G NTDs. We show that enhancing antibodies reinforce the binding of the spike trimer to the host cell membrane by clamping the NTD to lipid raft microdomains. This stabilizing mechanism may facilitate the conformational change that induces the demasking of the receptor binding domain. As the NTD is also targeted by neutralizing antibodies, our data suggest that the balance between neutralizing and facilitating antibodies in vaccinated individuals is in favor of neutralization for the original Wuhan/D614G strain.

    However, in the case of the Delta variant, neutralizing antibodies have a decreased affinity for the spike protein, whereas facilitating antibodies display a strikingly increased affinity. Thus, ADE may be a concern for people receiving vaccines based on the original Wuhan strain spike sequence (either mRNA or viral vectors).

    Under these circumstances, second generation vaccines with spike protein formulations lacking structurally-conserved ADE-related epitopes should be considered."

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  • Fri, Aug 13, 2021 - 2:44am

    Darrick

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    Alternative ADE link to Time2help's referenced preprint.

    Alternative ADE link (or URL) is

    https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(21)00392-3/fulltext?rss=yes

    as the original link provided "couldn't be reached".

     

     

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  • Tue, Aug 17, 2021 - 11:39am

    borderpatrol

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    borderpatrol said:

    not here in my hospital in Michigan. And only a few in the ICU where is work

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  • Tue, Sep 14, 2021 - 3:43am

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    Correct link to European data

    Thank you Chris for all your video's and data. I am new to the insider part and have been "lurking" the last week for a bit as you described in your recent video. 🙂 However my increasing concerns regarding personal freedom and the future of society that my family will have to live in causes me to move and stop just watching from the side lines.
    I was however unable to follow your EU data by the link (https://dap.ema.europa.eu/analytics/saw.dll?PortalPages) you presented in the video, after some searching I found the data myself and noticed that the link changes as soon as you change on of the top tabs. For those interested in the data and the quick links to the four vaccines I paste them here below. If you have the time you might want to add them to the video description.
    Kind regards,

    Richard

    COVID-19 MRNA VACCINE PFIZER-BIONTECH (TOZINAMERAN)

    https://dap.ema.europa.eu/analytics/saw.dll?PortalPages&PortalPath=%2Fshared%2FPHV%20DAP%2F_portal%2FDAP&Action=Navigate&P0=1&P1=eq&P2=%22Line%20Listing%20Objects%22.%22Substance%20High%20Level%20Code%22&P3=1+42325700

    COVID-19 VACCINE ASTRAZENECA (CHADOX1 NCOV-19)

    https://dap.ema.europa.eu/analytics/saw.dll?PortalPages&PortalPath=%2Fshared%2FPHV%20DAP%2F_portal%2FDAP&Action=Navigate&P0=1&P1=eq&P2=%22Line%20Listing%20Objects%22.%22Substance%20High%20Level%20Code%22&P3=1+40995439

    COVID-19 VACCINE JANSSEN (AD26.COV2.S)

    https://dap.ema.europa.eu/analytics/saw.dll?PortalPages&PortalPath=%2Fshared%2FPHV%20DAP%2F_portal%2FDAP&Action=Navigate&P0=1&P1=eq&P2=%22Line%20Listing%20Objects%22.%22Substance%20High%20Level%20Code%22&P3=1+42287887

    COVID-19 MRNA VACCINE MODERNA (CX-024414)

    https://dap.ema.europa.eu/analytics/saw.dll?PortalPages&PortalPath=%2Fshared%2FPHV%20DAP%2F_portal%2FDAP&Action=Navigate&P0=1&P1=eq&P2=%22Line%20Listing%20Objects%22.%22Substance%20High%20Level%20Code%22&P3=1+40983312

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  • Tue, Sep 14, 2021 - 8:23am

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    Dr. Zelenko Discusses COVID-19 Outpatient Management

    This is another very important video with Dr. Zelenko for those who hasn't watched it:





     

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  • Tue, Sep 14, 2021 - 12:54pm

    AndrewOregon

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    Zelenko is great!!

    Thanks for this. Reminds me of the outrage of other treating physicians such as Urso, Marik, Kory, and Nass. Something really stinks, and these folks know it.

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  • Sun, Oct 03, 2021 - 7:25pm

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    GonnaBeAlright said:

    Can you provide a link to the data that shows 14 deaths in unvaxxed and 15 deaths in vaxxed?  I'm having a real hard time finding that.

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