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    Peak Prosperity Is Hiring!

    Three Roles - Incredible Opportunities for the Right People
    by Chris Martenson

    Monday, April 5, 2021, 9:36 AM

Note:  This Post has been added to to provide more context and announce two new roles.

Peak Prosperity is Hiring!

I have big plans.  In the years to come Peak Prosperity will continue to be a place where free-thinking people can gather and explore ideas.  A bit of foreshadowing, we will also be charting a new course over the coming months and years.  Much has changed in the world since Peak Prosperity was founded, and I have grown and matured and changed too as has this community.  While all the basic themes and content will continue, emphasis will increasing shift to solutions.  Big, world shaping solutions as well as more personal solutions.    

More immediately, if not urgently, I need to fill the roles of general manager of Peak Prosperity (actually, for the LLC that will house Peak Prosperity and its related activities), Content Manager (which is a very senior role) and Production/Event Coordinator.

So, I’m hiring!  My strong preference would be to find the right person right here in this community. 

Note:  This is a new addition to the original post, so what follows may be new to you:

New Positions

Peak Prosperity is going to continue to offer the same fact-based content aligned along the economy, energy and environment topics as well as the eight forms of capital (financial, social, knowledge, emotional, material, emotional, cultural and time).

It is going to stop having advertising that serves to compromise reader privacy and control of their own data, as well as any sponsored ads that promote such things that reasonably might cause a new reader to steer clear of the site.

It is going to begin offering new content that points to the sort of macro/global solutions that actually could offer a sustainable future in which we could all believe.  These will initially be in the areas of sustainable energy, agriculture, water, and economic/cultural issues.

So, basically more emphasis on solutions at every level including all the way on up to global.

That’s the what, but it is the way we do that is vital.  How we go about sharing that content is more important than the content. If that makes any sense.

In a sentence we might call this fact-based messaging.

That’s a pithy sentence, so let me decode that a bit.

Evidence, or facts, are necessary but insufficient.  Facts alone really will only change the minds of a very small group of people. Whether these people were born that way or learned it along the way, they represent too small of a population to really accomplish much.

Which means that any and all attempts to sway behaviors by simply providing facts, facts, and more facts will be ineffective.  We’re drowning in desperate facts and yet nothing really changes.  That’s the evidence we have.

An example might be that we know that serum levels of Vitamin D above a certain threshold will cut Covid mortality by 50% or more, yet there’s no global or national campaign to promote and distribute this cheap and easy solution.  Why not?  It works, it’s cheap, and it’s ridiculously safe.  If those facts meant anything then Vitamin D would already be talked about and distributed and part of everyone’s shared experience of Covid.  But that’s not the case.  The reasons are many and complex, but we can at least admit that facts and evidence have been insufficient to change behaviors.

The missing element in this and a hundred other examples from every corner of our predicament laden world is in the framing, or the narrative that is used.  The short-hand word for this is “messaging.”

Certainly the power of story can be understood through cultural and anthropological lenses, but it’s my view that there’s great power in understanding our evolutionary past and biological wiring.  Behavioral economics (Ariely) and human evolutionary behavior (Sapolsky) are examples of areas of study that offer insights which can enhance our messaging to increase its influence.

Effective messaging also knows that it is beliefs more than facts that stand between someone’s current habits and actions and new ones.

All of which is to say that if we’re going to actually help swing the needle of human progress back towards actual sustainability, we’ve got to utilize fact-based messaging.  This is what I’ve set out to do and I’ve become reasonably good at it.  Now I need help.  A lot of help.

Shaping narratives is an all-consuming endeavor, especially when up against the counter-messaging of multibillion-dollar giants.

The Roles I’m Hiring For

Given that big, audacious mission, I need to fill several critical positions.

I’ve already posted for a GM position (below) but, truthfully, I got ahead of myself.

My most pressing needs are for the next two roles; the first is a Content Manager and the second is an Event/Program coordinator.

So, I am opening up the job search for all three of these roles at this time.

Content Manager Position

  • Has a passion for the content and desires to meaningfully contribute to a sustainable future
  • Skilled or willing to develop deep proficiency at promoting a wide variety of content across all social media and distribution platforms
  • Excellent at organizing and curating content
  • Able to map organizational strategies and goals to content
  • Excellent editing ability and a strong attention to details
  • Believes in fact-based messaging (defined above)

 

Program/Event Manager Position

  • Has a strong passion for the mission
  • Excels at managing events and all their many details from start to finish
  • Adept coordinator of logistically complex events
  • Excellent at interacting with event participants throughout the cycle
  • Excellent under pressure, and able to make quick decisions and make-do when necessary
  • Events will be on-line, on site, and at various places across the country and possibly globe

General Manager of Peak Prosperity

A rare opportunity to join an exciting small company with strong future prospects has opened up. Working closely with Chris Martenson as the general manager of PeakProsperity.com, the successful candidate will have a rare opportunity to combine mission with livelihood.

The ideal candidate will ensure that strategic goals are met by setting and implementing operational policies, create and maintain budgets, manage employees & contractors, and oversee content delivery schedules. They will be an adept leader with a strong business mind and a passion for logistics, organization and collaboration.  Seeking only a person with a long-term role in mind.

Location – Western MA, USA.

Skills & Abilities

  • Experience operating web platforms and running a web-based business and/or a deep comfort and facility with technology a huge plus.
  • Solid experience running/managing a business and staff.
  • Strong capabilities on all the usual business applications (Excel, PowerPoint, Quicken, etc.).
  • Detail oriented, and able to map those details to long-range strategies and plans.
  • Clear and effective communicator

Job elements

  • Extremely flexible hours. Also, odd hours as events sometimes happen or transpire on weekends or late at night.  Definitely not a 9-5 job.
  • Can be mostly remote, but regular/weekly working sessions required to keep the team tight and aligned. First few months will require much more in-person contact. Preference given to those within maximum of 3 hours driving range, or willing to relocate.
  • Will handle/interface with accounting/bookkeeping firm to assure clean and prompt books, payments and receivables and tax filings.
  • Develop and provide reporting on all business aspects (site metrics, Google analytics, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc. – tracking all main and key metrics to know how we’re doing)
  • Arrange, negotiate and manage all affiliate and contract deals.
  • Oversee the development of a new website. Need to upgrade along with other online venues within the calendar year.

Pay & Benefits

  • Salary will be negotiated on experience. Range is $90k – $150k
  • Profit sharing will provide a significant incentive. Also to be negotiated.

Candidate qualities

  • Is familiar with and in strong support of the core messages of Peak Prosperity.
  • Knows and believes in the message and methods of Chris Martenson and his assembled tribe which values truth seeking, freedom of expression, has an unquenchable curiosity, and fully believes in the ideas that humans have exceeded the carrying capacity of the earth (at current per capita rates of consumption) and the need for a massive shift in consciousness and behavior for the future to have any believability.
  • Is a complete self-starter. Wakes up and works throughout the workday. I am not a manager, and I don’t want to become one.
  • Gets the job done. When something needs doing, it gets done, no matter the size of the task.
  • Takes direction well, but doesn’t really need any.
  • Understands and works to support the creative process of the content creators.
  • Will be excellent at managing (and mentoring as needed) staff in their tasks and development, as well as all business relationships.
    Has advanced emotionally maturity and has done enough inner exploration to ‘own their own stuff.’ [Note: This role involves interfacing with customers and the public who are often at all different levels of emotional processing as their world changes rapidly and shifts from beneath them – we have to be the steady rock for them. Internally we resolve and work through our issues in a mature way. Externally we help others do the same.]
  • Great sense of humor, not easily offended or triggered.
  • Initiates easily and often, especially when confronted with a brand-new concept or task. “Fail early and fail often” – we learn by doing.
  • Is comfortable making decisions and moving forward on the basis of incomplete information.
  • Calm and collected in high pressure situations.
  • Capable of changing direction quickly based on new information (when the data or situation changes, so do we)
  • Is comfortable with who they are.
  • Is extremely open-minded. At Peak Prosperity we explore all sorts of concepts and ideas, many of them non-conformist. If you are threatened by ideas, or have strong views that aren’t open to exploration, this won’t be a good role.

Please submit a resume, references and a cover letter to [email protected]

Or please pass this along to someone who you know who would be a good fit.

For the right person, this is an incredible opportunity.

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  • Mon, Apr 05, 2021 - 10:25am

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    alanrgreenland

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    Wishing you Good Luck!!

     

    Chris,

    This will obviously be a key hire, and I hope you are able to find that perfect person for the role.  I look forward to the reboot, and PP 2.0!

    -- ARG

     

     

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  • Mon, Apr 05, 2021 - 10:50am

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    thc0655

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    Candidate would be wise to consider relocating to southern New Hampshire

    Southern New Hampshire is a <3 hour drive from Chris’s place in western Taxachuesetts. No income tax (for days spent working from home) and no sales tax. The housing market is tight because “everybody” has discovered NH and real estate taxes are high (~ 2.4%/$1,000) because there are no other taxes for government to rely on. New Hampshire consistently ranks in the top 10 of US states on all kinds of measures that make life livable and enjoyable.

    Just sayin’.

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  • Mon, Apr 05, 2021 - 11:46am

    brushhog

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    I had considered NH

    Great place, great people. But for a small farmer/homesteader who wants to own a nice sized chunk of land...those property taxes are a killer.

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  • Mon, Apr 05, 2021 - 12:12pm

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    dreinmund

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    dreinmund said:

    Sounds like a fantastic opportunity for someone with that skill set.

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  • Mon, Apr 05, 2021 - 12:23pm

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    jerryr

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    What is the revenue model?

    I've been paying $300 per year for this site for over a decade now, and I've justified the expense in my mind for two reasons:

    (1) It's a great investment newsletter. I feel that the advice to buy tangible assets such as gold, silver and farmland is basically very solid, even though it has underperformed Apple and Tesla in recent years.

    (2) Chris's skills and dedication as an "information scout" have provided invaluable insight time and time again. I understand that this costs money, and I'm happy to support Chris as an independent voice.

    I've always assumed that the subscriber base is fairly small, and that this is a shoestring operation. I run a small website myself, so I have a lot of respect for what Chris and Adam have accomplished.

    So it came as quite a surprise, to learn that the business of "PeakProsperity.com" had been sold to GBI. This is a bullion investment firm operated by establishment folks from places like Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, Gates Foundation, the SEC and the military. Exactly the folks we've learned to distrust. I've lost some confidence seeing that scenario unfold.

    But I gather that's all over now, and Chris will no longer be affiliated with GBI, although Adam will be? The "investment newsletter" function is also going over to Adam and Wealthion, along with all the revenue associated with financial advisor commissions from New Harbor, and all the precious metals ads? I'll have to think twice before paying $300 per year to get advice from a GBI affiliate. I'm willing to read what Wealthion has to say, but I'm not sure they need my $300 to say it.

    The funding model for independent journalism on the Internet has evolved over the last few years. A lot of great journalists and information scouts like Glenn Greenwald and Matt Taibbi, are following a free plus premium model on Substack for $5 per month. Others like Caitlin Johnstone support themselves through Patreon donations.

    Maybe some people here are paying $300 per year to be part of a community. I live on the I-5 corridor, and I've never made the trip to the East Coast to meet the group in person. So I'm not sure I would see the community as a justification for the expense, although others might.

    Chris, would you be willing to say more about the business model for Peak Prosperity going forward?

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  • Mon, Apr 05, 2021 - 12:35pm

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    kina55

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    new position

    I'm in NZ but have experience with this sort of thing .... however I'd consider breaking the position into including a 'technology officer' to maintain that side of things ... not necessarily fulltime. Having that expertise available without necessarily having it yourself as a GM may be useful. The IT officer I use has no formal qualifications but has been the originator of an amazing selection of completely innovative and entrepreneurial ideas for the businesses we run and has proven totally capable of the technical/software matters involved.

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  • Mon, Apr 05, 2021 - 1:41pm

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    LBL

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    LBL said:

    Would like to see PP become also a Manufacturing Organization, that manufactures products related to Resilience.

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  • Mon, Apr 05, 2021 - 1:43pm

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    agitating prop

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    Cognitive Dissonance

    I was under the impression from Chris's description of how things would be shaking out that GBI would be backing Peak Prosperity going forward. I would think that it would be a base requirement to have deep pocket backers, just to hit the ground running, hire full time help, etc...

    I could have completely misread or misinterpreted though. If I am correct, it is an incredibly awkward position for Chris to be in.

    In order to counter the cognitive dissonance, members and employees could look at it as Peak Prosperity's way of using the machinery of control to their own benefit.  It's all perspective and appreciating the practicalities involved.

     

     

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  • Mon, Apr 05, 2021 - 2:27pm

    Jim H

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    What are you talking about AP?

    Are you trying to spread disinformation?  Chris has stated clearly that he will be the sole owner operator of PP.com when things close.  This is a three way breakup as I understand it - at least as far as PP.com goes.  Others?  Am I wrong?  Thank you, JimH

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  • Mon, Apr 05, 2021 - 3:21pm

    Quercus bicolor

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    Correct Jim.

    Yes Jim, you are correct.  Chris' public and private communication clearly states that he will solely control PP.

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  • Mon, Apr 05, 2021 - 3:59pm

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    agitating prop

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    GBI

    In answer to your question Jim H, sole editorial control is not the same as sole ownership. If he has both, it's better.

    But I don't recall his clarifying that detail. And, it's none of my business to hammer away at him about it. So, if you could point me to where this issue is clear, that would be helpful.

    Okay, just did some digging and now get it. I was using some legal documentation that is currently being disentangled.

    My apologies.

    Carry on!

     

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  • Mon, Apr 05, 2021 - 8:12pm

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    ckessel

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    Your new post

    Chris,

    Your solution is exactly the right choice at the right time IMHO.Well done on acquiring PP.  I can only imagine how tough that was.

    I recall my description of the housing solutions to you as we passed through a particularly populated section of California's Central Valley so many years ago.  I was ashamed that 'my profession' would end up with tract housing as the best solution to providing shelter for the masses.

    Today I can say that about a lot of professions that exist in our country. The media of course comes to mind as a big first. But to the point of this post is that I noticed you posted the job requisites clearly and if I were a younger person I would certainly toss my hat into the ring.

    But, being somewhat ancient at the ripe age of 74, I will decline.  If there is any opportunity to pose a recommendation, I think Dave Fairtex would be a great candidate. I hope he tosses his hat into the ring!

    Best to you and Evie during these days of transition. BTW, Mom still remembers the trip to Yosemite and our lunch at the Awahanee Hotel. She will be celebrating her 100th birthday this June. She says to give you her best and stay the course! 🙂

    Coop

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  • Mon, Apr 05, 2021 - 9:22pm

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    Mike Anderson

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    Ambitious job description

    Reading through that job description I think of all Adam Taggart has done, that his shoes will be difficult to fill.  I also think that may of us are scuttling about trying to get our homesteads functional and would find investing long hours in getting retooled to be rather disruptive.  I'm not exactly familiar with television production, but I've noticed that certain projects (episodes) get handed to different producers, and that might be a useful model for the site to become more productive sooner.  However, some tasks are difficult to communicate within a team, such as the web development, which probably follows a Pareto distribution for individual productivity.

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  • Mon, Apr 05, 2021 - 10:06pm

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    davefairtex

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    GM job

    Heh this is a beyond-full-time job here for sure.  You must come with a total passion for the work - if you have that, the rest will flow effortlessly.  Reading between the lines, I have a sense there is a business plan that is now being fleshed out which could be really quite exciting.

    I'm not in the proper timezone to execute on this.  But perhaps I will end up playing some sort of role.  I'm just not sure what it might be.

    I too think that Chris's disclosure that he will be sole owner - no GBI will be involved - is salutary.

    But - either way, GBI or no GBI - it is the act of voluntary disclosure that matters most.  Being forthright, at a truth-telling site, is essential.  That's "being in integrity."

    My opinion, of course.

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  • Mon, Apr 05, 2021 - 10:33pm

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    agitating prop

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    mascot

    You can be the mascot, Mr. Fairtex.

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  • Mon, Apr 05, 2021 - 11:21pm

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    davefairtex

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    bwahahaha

    AP!!  What happened to your promise not to engage with me any longer due to - I forget what my crime was, perhaps you can refresh my memory?

    I guess that was "so last week."  🙂

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  • Mon, Apr 05, 2021 - 11:28pm

    agitating prop

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    Mascot

    "Highly offended" was the crime, and there is a crocodile mascot outfit for that. That was "so last week." I've let it go. Sigh.

    After tough interactions with you, I used to curl up in the fetal position and cry. The tears would roll down my cheeks and pool on the floor. That is...until I found this song...my new anthem.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0MK7qz13bU

     

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  • Mon, Apr 05, 2021 - 11:42pm

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    davefairtex

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    perfect!

    Glad to hear you're over it.  Welcome back.

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  • Tue, Apr 06, 2021 - 6:32am

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    travissidelinger said:

    It might take more than one person to fill Adam's shoes.

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  • Tue, Apr 06, 2021 - 6:40am

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    carljames

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    carljames said:

    Are you still hiring this time? Thanks. man and van Cheltenham

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  • Tue, Apr 06, 2021 - 6:54am

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    JAG

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    Is Q Hiring?

    Dr. M,

    I think you should model the site redesign on the Q model, except your cryptic messages should appeal to those who are not intellectually challenged.

    The CIA would probably fund you, lol, and you wouldn't have to pay taxes. DF can run the site from an undisclosed international location.

    The people in this documentary are really hard to watch. Stupidity is going exponential.

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  • Tue, Apr 06, 2021 - 1:18pm

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    jerryr

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    501c3 nonprofit? If Q isn't hiring, that is...

    Chris said:

    While all the basic themes and content will continue, emphasis will increasing shift to solutions.  Big, world shaping solutions as well as more personal solutions.

    I've always hoped that the site would look beyond the personal level. If the goal is to provide solutions and educational materials for world-shaping solutions, without taking a partisan political approach -- why not structure as a 501c3 nonprofit? That is, unless the CIA is willing to step in as a funding source, as JAG suggested?

    I'm sure none of us supporters want to pay one penny more in taxes than necessary.

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  • Tue, Apr 06, 2021 - 1:38pm

    LBL

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    LBL said:

    >>>  I'm sure none of us supporters want to pay one penny more in taxes than necessary.

    There's a way around taxes.  You can just use revenues to fund R&D and if it's gov. approved R&D, even get a tax credit.

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  • Tue, Apr 06, 2021 - 6:09pm

    Chris Martenson

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    Why not a non-profit?

    why not structure as a 501c3 nonprofit?

    Jerryr - the reason is because of a really amazing, decent man I know.   Among the very first Crash Course attendees back before it was even called the Crash Course (called The End of Money back then) he took that knowledge, bought some land and started an intentional community.

    Well, more of an intentional neighborhood.  Attracted plenty of people to it.  They bought land from him, build houses, installed gardens and systems - the works.

    I think it was all fine for several years.  But then he began to have differences with The Board.  While he was the executive director, the Board still had the final power.  That's just how 501c3 organizations are structured.

    Push came to shove and The Board (formed from members of *his* community) decided he was no longer a welcome member of that community.  I don't know all the drama, but it was ugly from what I heard.  Probably still is.

    The point being I really don't want any outside influences or battles with boards or other investors for this next act.  I just want to be me.  I certainly don't want to pour my heart and sole into something that a Board could suddenly decide needed to be something else.

    So let's find a different tax advantageous strategy we can pursue?  🙂

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  • Tue, Apr 06, 2021 - 7:03pm

    travissidelinger

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    Community land

    Are they any legally binding methods that a group of people can own the same block of land, able to vote in new members, able to vote for what happens on the land, not be able to sell their ownership, not able to pass inheritance, and not able to vote anyone out.  The only way out is walk away or pass away, or maybe not step on the land for X number of years.  Wouldn't this be a simple contract all the owners would have to sign?  Or does existing laws and precedences make this impossible?  I know nothing about property law.  Thus, I'm curious.

    -Travis

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  • Tue, Apr 06, 2021 - 7:48pm

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    jerryr

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    How to control a nonprofit

    Chris, thanks for your reply.

    We have an attorney in Eugene who specializes in writing bylaws for individuals who want to keep close control of their nonprofit. Basically, the Board of Directors is elected by another group called the Counsel of Voting Members. This Counsel can consist mostly of either family members or employees of the organization. So there's generally no problem for the founder to maintain control of the Counsel. And according to the bylaws, the Counsel has the power to remove one or more board members at any time, in the event of a conflict on the Board.

    I've been involved in a couple of local nonprofits that have used this structure over the past several years. Sure enough, the founders have kept firm control of those nonprofits, and the IRS has never challenged the legality of this arrangement.

    That isn't to say that there hasn't been any drama! I really wouldn't recommend it unless: (1) you want to raise a lot of money by asking for big donations; and (2) you enjoy working with board members, delegating tasks, and dealing with occasional insurrections.

    As another alternative, consider dropping the subscription price, and making it up on volume? Greenwald and Taibbi on Substack say they have tens of thousands of subscribers at $5 per month. Who cares about tax deductions for $5 per month.

    Re Travis's question: I'm not sure why you would want to own an interest that you couldn't sell or pass inheritance? But, I think in most states, it's legal to create an LLC with those membership conditions.

    Of course for both of my answers here, I need to add a disclaimer: Don't take legal advice from semi-anonymous non-lawyers on Internet discussion boards...

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  • Tue, Apr 06, 2021 - 8:54pm

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    jerryr

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    Deduct as investment expense?

    Ahaha, that could be another tax favorable strategy. I was never cheeky enough to try that! It may be an investment newsletter, but mostly PP is journalism, philosophy and entertainment.

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  • Wed, Apr 07, 2021 - 4:38am

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    travissidelinger said:

    Re Travis's question: I'm not sure why you would want to own an interest that you couldn't sell or pass inheritance?

    Well, lets say you enter sed arrangement in good faith.  You then spend years building up the soil and working the land.  Only then your wife decides to leave you and wants to sell "her half".  Or your business partner does the same.  Land often doesn't divide well, and the monetary value is not the same as it's actual value.

    I've seen this happen twice in my extended family.  It's super destructive.

    I guess it's possible someone in the party could be abusive and one of the party members needs an out.  That seems more like a criminal matter, and you should be able have abuse protection clauses.

    That old saying "Money is the root of all evil".  Well I think it's really just people are the root of all evil, and money is just a tool.  But regardless, our current legal system doesn't seem to be capable of truly defining the real value of natural things like land and living capital.

    Thoughts?

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  • Wed, Apr 07, 2021 - 1:27pm

    jerryr

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    Land ownership arrangements

    I can understand that after spending years building up the soil, you might feel that the land should be worth more than you paid for it, or more than a similar patch of conventionally farmed land.

    But if a member of the group has made an investment, including time and effort, I'm not sure why there's a problem with selling that interest to a new partner who meets the approval standards of the group? Maybe the price doesn't need to reflect the value of love and hard work over the years, but at least at "fair market" monetary value.

    If partners who leave are expected to walk away with nothing, the result seems to be an unjust enrichment of the remaining partners at the expense of the departing partner. This creates incentives for mischief: the departing partner might try to continue to participate in a negative fashion in the group decision making process. Or, might make false accusations of abuse.

    Worst case, a climate of generalized borderline abusiveness could develop, with everyone hoping to be the last man standing.

    Marriage complicates things. Unless there's a really solid prenuptial agreement, it's highly likely that a court would view land as community property, and it's going to be sold or awarded to one party or the other.

    Having said all that: if all partners go into a land ownership arrangement such as you're suggesting, where a departing partner is expected to leave with nothing, I don't see why you couldn't write it in the partnership bylaws in plain language. At the very least, any departing partner would then face a challenging court battle if they want their money out.

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  • Wed, Apr 07, 2021 - 2:57pm

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    One of my favorite quotes.

    “Things run by a committee are not run very well.”

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  • Wed, Apr 07, 2021 - 4:27pm

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    Chuck in Belize said:

    A Committee can usually only agree on one thing.

    The time and date for the next committee meeting.
    And even that is subject to change.

    Everything that has ever been done, which has proven worthwhile for humanity
    was done by Individuals, in spite of the Committees they might have served on,
    and certainly never because of them.

    For example, search for OSHA-approved Cowboy.
    You'll see what I mean.

    -- Chuck

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  • Wed, Apr 07, 2021 - 5:05pm

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    Chuck in Belize

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    Chuck in Belize said:

    Suppose you wanted to create a Beaver,
    and you hired a Committee to do the job.

    What you would get would be something a bit like a Platypus
    It would probably not be a Beaver.  But it would be agreed
    by the Committee.

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  • Wed, Apr 07, 2021 - 7:54pm

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    travissidelinger said:

    “Things run by a committee are not run very well.”

    I absolutely agree.

    It's good to be king.  But humans have been down that road.  We know where it goes.  What's that Spiderman saying, "With great power comes great responsibility".  That doesn't always happen.  And do I even need to mention Game of Thrones as an example.  I would rather not live in that kind of world.  Thus, there has to be something in the middle between absolute dictator and mob rule.

    You need to have definitive CEO with the authority to run things and make stuff happen.

    At the same time you need a board of directors with the power to remove the CEO if they loose confidence.  And the power to control the purse and make major rule changes.

    Is it messy and imperfect, sure.

    And all committees need a solid framework for how they operate, with my own preference that ranked voting is used.  A committee without structure is probably worse then most evil dictators.

    Just my two cents...

    -Travis

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  • Fri, Apr 09, 2021 - 5:04pm

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    capesurvivor

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    Board of Directors?

    Nope, Chris keeps control of his venture no matter what. What if people buy shares into a cooperative with Chris retaining 51% of available shares. If there’s a board, he listens but he is the decider.

    I know little about corporate structure so I suspect more sophisticated ways have been devised.

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  • Fri, Apr 09, 2021 - 5:45pm

    Mots

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    dealing with legal problems

    Travis and JerryR
    All of these issues are dealt with via lawyering.

    When I help someone start an enterprise, I do the following:
    Discuss all possible problems that might exist before we set up the organization in a long phone call or calls.
    Itemize all possible issues.
    Draft a legal response for each issue, that each party can agree to and sign off on while we are all friends and thinking clearly.
    Issues such as marital separations (who keeps what), death, selling out early, going to a specific court vs a specified mediator, or specified arbitrator for squabbles, valuation of improved soil etc. can be described in words, and can be dealt with by a writing that describes how to handle it.  For example in the event of death and inheritance/subsequent control by a vicious spouse, the agreement could prevent problems by agreeing that transfer by inheritance would not include any voting rights etc. or a requirement for renewed membership acceptance by a vote.
    If you can think of a problem, and of a reasonable solution to that problem, you can put that into a contract.  Just do it in advance.  The key is to be very frank and honest with each other and consider all possible potential problems in advance and put a solution to that in writing to bind the parties.  Prenup agreements are an example of how we can use law to manage serious divergences from a plan.

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  • Sat, Apr 10, 2021 - 2:52am

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    whoknew79

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    Chris has updated this thread with new job positions and descriptions.

    I wouldn't have known about the update to this post. I just clicked over here to read what Mots said. How about changing the post picture to grab people's attention and update the title. "Peak Prosperity is Hiring (updated)"

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  • Sat, Apr 10, 2021 - 5:19am

    Hladini

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    Thank God for Chris and here's to moving forward

    Thank God Chris has some integrity.  Why did PP explode?  Because of Chris' thoughtful and honest research and reporting!  It was NOT Adam's financial interviews!  I'm now speculating, is Adam trying to cash in on the cash cow and now does not want to jeopardize his newly found success by opposing the narrative?

    That explosion of business was a double edged sword.  Why the explosion? Because people thirsting, literally dying of thirst, for factual, honest, actionable information found Dr. Chris Martenson.   Hey, Mainstreeters may be vaccinated, medicated, flouridated, chlorinated, fed shit for food and shit for news, but they can still smell bullshit.  These thirsty people found Chris' reporting to be the first honest thing they'd heard during this whole shit show and PP exploded.   But the refreshingly  honest information did not jive with the narrative and therefore honest research and reporting had to be stopped.  Not because the investors disagree, but it's bad for business.

    Not everyone's a ksatrya.

    On a happier note I am jumping for joy.  I've got sooooooo may ideas on the messaging and the solutions.  Must read The Transition Handbook,  must read Geography to No Where, must build passive solar homes that do not require ac/heat anywhere, must build walkable communities near rivers, rail stations, ports, etc, every household must grow food, intentional communities should be able to provide employment.  For example there are about 10 families living in an intentional community in Canada and they support themselves by growing, processing, and selling soap and soap products.

    Also must watch "Collapse" with Michael Rupert, and read "The Long Emergency."  "A World Made by Hand" series is great fiction on the long emergency.

    As for the messaging, I could not agree with Chris more.  On that note I recommend Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals."  It's not just for radicals.  He stresses you have to have visuals that will imprint in the public's mind like crowning a pig while condemning the Ms. America contest or burning bras in favor of women's lib.

    I would go so far as to say  an expert should be consulted in regard to the messaging.  There is a genuine psyop going on real time and combatting it will take some expertise.

    I'm on board and when the agreement is signed I'll become a paying member and try to get another one or two on board.  May even pay for  the year in advance so Chris won't have to rely on my cheeky credit cards!

    Chris should get on board with Substack; he may have found a second career in independent journalism.

    I'm offering this website to Chris.  This gentleman reminded me of a young Dr. Martenson, although he does not hold a Ph.D.  He does, however, give overviews of randomized, peer reviewed studies on facemasks and convinced me that the first narrative of the pandemic, 'facemasks do more harm than good' was actually the truth.  I have since ditched the facemasks.  Would really like to hear what Chris has to say about this data.

    https://themodelhealthshow.com/maskfacts/

    Cheers, and I am still praying the negotiations go smoothly and the agreement gets signed.

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  • Sat, Apr 10, 2021 - 7:56am

    Altobelli

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    Altobelli said:

    A perspective also shared by me...

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  • Wed, Apr 14, 2021 - 10:37pm

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    Sustainable Future

    I'm looking forward to the changes as I've yet to find a coherent explanation of how any way of working an advanced society can be "sustainable." Usually, people just mean "can be sustained for some undefined period of time" but not indefinitely. How humans used to live, along with other species, in much smaller population sizes, was sustainable until humans both expanded in population size and started using tools to alter the balance. I don't much fancy the old way of living but if that is the only sustainable way, then I'd have to accept it.

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  • Thu, Apr 15, 2021 - 8:53am

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    CrLaan said:

    the only pp contributor thus far is Adam .......copyrights pp?

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  • Thu, Apr 15, 2021 - 8:57am

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    CrLaan said:

    I wouldn't have known about the update to this post. I just clicked over here to read what Mots said. How about changing the post picture to grab people's attention and update the title. "Peak Prosperity is Hiring (updated)"

    new website Postpp

     

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