Protests erupted all over Europe and in Australia over the prospect of renewed lockdowns, vaccinating children and other Covid measures.  They’re fed up. I am fed up. You are fed up.

The main problem?  None of the measures have actually worked so far and are an incoherent mess. Instead of rethinking strategies and being more thoughtful in communicating the necessity and goals of the new approaches, many governments have instead become more dictatorial and authoritarian.  This is creating even more friction within and among the citizenry.

To avoid being a ‘rat in a cage’ your first step toward freedom rests in understanding who is delivering the shocks and why.

In part II of this series, I explore what the agenda really is and how the media is not simply ‘falling down on the job’ but actively and purposely misinforming us; always with the intent of sowing divisions and widening social fractures.

Furthermore, the high rates of inflation and energy price increases now haunting Europe will continue to add fuel to the social fires that are now lit and stoked.  

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Rats in a Cage Episode 12: https://youtu.be/sqjIfwCYS1g

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  • Tue, Nov 23, 2021 - 8:21pm

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    dadzcats

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    What’s going on in Israel?

    I was chatting with a guy who lives near Tel Aviv as I was about to play host for an online presentation. I asked him how things were over there and he said they were great - that they were a vaccine success story and were now back to living normally. What?! I thought their vaccinated population was seeing a surge in COVid! I am confused…again!

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  • Tue, Nov 23, 2021 - 9:01pm

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    Canuck21 said:

    Looks like their recent peak has troughed again. May be the recent booster round. See how long it lasts. It's a global merry-go-round - up down up down up down..

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/

     

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  • Tue, Nov 23, 2021 - 9:01pm

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    Dan Edwards

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    It’s Happening

    I just posted on this general sentiment sweeping across our planet. It really needs to be pulled into a single focus, if possible. That was the subject of my think tank war room post. There’s so much human potential energy (HPE). But it’s still disorganized for lack of a better word. If it were all focused even more on a single couple of demands that are hard to refute, like why are you letting people die in hospitals without treatment. If there were a single banner that everyone chanted so to speak, who knows, maybe we can punch through, And further Pierce this ugly propaganda machine!

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  • Tue, Nov 23, 2021 - 9:43pm

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    The reason you cant have open dialog

    We are amidst the "Great Reset".  The vaccine has absolutely nothing to do with the pandemic.  It is about control.  The pandemic is just a catalyst.  The media , and the officials are all in on it.  They are all intimidated or threatened or are fully onboard because they have been promised their tier in the control and power with the money that comes from that.    It is amazing how many people are going along with the killing of innocent people to move this agenda forward, which does include depopulation.

    The truth is most people are sheep , and they,tptb, know it.  They are scared of the last 20% but its very small number of the total.  Its something TPTB are afraid of , but they are hoping to use the other 80% in our way.  we are truly in a war of getting through to about 20% of those sheep.  Once that is done it is over for TPTB.   But it extremely difficult with what they are doing. and people are very stubborn and not open to anything that jeopardizes their safety zone.   It is incredibly difficult as I cannot get through to my own family.  And every now and again they acknowledge big pieces of the puzzle and seem as they may make a break through. Two days of CNN and they are right back in line with the Agenda.

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  • Tue, Nov 23, 2021 - 10:47pm

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    There were hundreds at those protests ...

    thousands of hundreds!

    See, the mainstream media doesn't lie.

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  • Tue, Nov 23, 2021 - 10:56pm

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    The speed of descent

    My thinking is that the general population won’t awaken until it’s REALLY bad. By then it might be too late. Groupthink is very strong and stubborn. How do we awaken those whose whole view of existence relies on them  staying asleep! Here in the west we have it so good that even now we still have a long way down before folks take to the streets with pitchforks. Look at Venezuela, their whole country is a complete mess and they are going hungry yet Maduro has been in power how long? Almost a decade! I think we will be lucky if this global cabal  goes a little too fast too soon and shows its hand, then folks might let them have it. That being said everyone wants to go back to the good ol’ days and then we find ourselves back in a resource scarce  world. Damned if we do damned if we don’t!

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  • Tue, Nov 23, 2021 - 11:14pm

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    Jae888 said:

    This was another great video.  I laughed to myself when I heard Chris saying something like 'at the highest levels there has to be a relationship between your actions and the outcomes.  You can't just keep divorcing the two entirely forever.'  I've often just believed that all of these authorities are just complete idiots and this is why they keep messing everything up so badly over and over again.  I then wonder if maybe it could be more than that.  I can't imagine it being everyone of them being 'in on it' whatever 'it is' but I do think that they can't all really be this stupid for this long.  There has to be more to it.  I am coming closer and closer to the view that there truly is something nefarious going on.  That is a very difficult concept for me to accept though for some reason.

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  • Wed, Nov 24, 2021 - 3:21am

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    Australia forcing injections, calls for international intervention

    https://jessicar.substack.com/p/do-you-know-whats-happening-in-the

    These videos are disturbing and claim that there are tribes being ‘removed’ and force-injected - clearly, against their will. This needs international attention because if this is happening to them, it needs to bloody stop. Hundreds of years of marginalization and mistreatment is enough, I think. Colonialism sucks. If you want a selfish reason to get involved, then look at it this way: it will eventually happen to the rest of us.

    If this doesn't spark a major uprising I'm not sure what would.

    Video#1 mentioned in the article above, if you are pushed for time PLEASE watch from 9:30mins in https://rumble.com/vppr0l-sos.html

     

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  • Wed, Nov 24, 2021 - 3:57am

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    Jae888 - There’s definitely more to it and there’s absolutely something nefarious going on. Most people don’t understand the depth and breadth of the evil at play here. I suspect for many they just don’t want to go there because it means questioning their whole world view.

    We need to go deeper down the rabbit hole folks. Think about it, how is all of this being orchestrated on a global scale by all of these ‘leaders’ (i.e. managers), many of whom are not all that bright?

    Start asking yourself this question - who is really pulling the strings behind the scenes? I’ve heard the quote many times lately “The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn’t exist”. But do you really believe the Devil is an actual being, or do you just generally lump all ‘bad’ people under this label? And if he does exist, then what is his end game?

    There’s a book that details his story from beginning to end. Most of you probably have a copy collecting dust on a bookshelf somewhere in your home. It’s time to dust off that book folks. Start reading about how this enemy operates, but more importantly how he will ultimately be defeated and who it is that will defeat him.

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  • Wed, Nov 24, 2021 - 6:49am

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    Canuckian said:

    That is very odd indeed. What the hell is going on? Maybe the guy is unaware or doesn't want to believe the truth, or we are fools!

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  • Wed, Nov 24, 2021 - 8:27am

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    Do you have a change?

    Dear Chris, Thank you for this blog post. Effectively something is seriously wrong to get so many people worked up about a "health problem". Although I agree with you re: the Australian tyrant - I feel that the following is far worse - insupportable as we say in French, to the point that I yelled at my computer - release tension as Clif High would say. A US senator not being respected by a public employee - avoiding the questions. See for yourself and tell me that the system works. Again as we say in French, "If it isn't broken don't fix it."  Enough people have to agree that the system is broken to effectuate the change.





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  • Wed, Nov 24, 2021 - 9:01am

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    Reality Is Always Difficult to Properly Perceive & Emotionally Harder To Accept.

    The reason most do not act upon what they perceive, is they have no confidence in their ability to perceive Existence.  They doubt their own minds, as this is expressly the goal of those attempting to manipulate them, control them, and abuse them.

    You see, this type of person was never taught to believe in the veracity of their own intellectual ability to determine, all by themselves, the facts about anything, whatsoever.  In fact,  they always tend to fall prey to all the "social bromides" invented to shake them from any attempt to posit any principled position, or factual conclusion.

    "Do you always think in terms of Black & White?"

    "That's just your opinion!"

    "Oh, look who thinks they are so SMART!"

    "Your position is EXTREMIST, as you refuse to compromise it in ANY WAY!"

    "Reality is merely ILLUSION!  You cannot really come to know ANYTHING!"

    "All you are using is LOGIC!   Don't you have a HEART?"

    And the sort...

    People are simply ignorant of Epistemology, and how it is...they come to know anything at all.   They are deliberately kept ignorant of CERTAINTY..and what it takes to achieve.  They are deprived of any intellectual defense for any thought, or conclusion, and many cannot tell you why an ARBITRARY POSIT may be ignored out-of-hand, without hazard, while the RATIONAL POSIT must be properly addressed.  You see, they do not understand the fundamental difference between a supported and an unsupported claim, regardless of the emotional reactions to either.

    Either one is Rational...or one is not.  Either one establishes REASON as their means of cognition, or one does not.  Either one's emotions are evoked by rationally derived values...or one's emotions are automatically irrational...as they are unfiltered by REASON.

    Most people's minds are a squirming quagmire of mutually exclusive, dire-contradictions, foggy notions, undefined terms, and emotional trigger terms.

    And HALF of the population has an IQ under 100.

    Fertile soil for any tyrannical seed....

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  • Wed, Nov 24, 2021 - 9:30am

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    Who Is Managing This Deliberate Chaos? Here Is A LIST.

    The following organizations/companies are the key services, used by those conducting this Cull:

    "ANSER" - An organizational "bank" which is the primary "owner" of all the responsible contracts involved in the management of this "Pandemic" and of all the "vaccine" efforts of all the involved drug companies.   They handle ALL THE MONEY, and ANSER is the primary target of ANY penetration of the various drug company's corporate veil for any actions made against it, regarding any aspect of this "Pandemic" and any "vaccine."   It is the official "scape-goat" entity, whose purpose is to protect the assets of Big Pharma.

    "FORSMARSH" - This massive organization is the actual entity behind ALL THE PROPAGANDA, you will find in ALL the various media outlets, concerning itself with the promotion of the desired narrative ...and is responsible for the desired manipulation of the public's mindset.   Joseph Gerbels would have worked here...

    "PALANTIR" -  This organization handles all the IT and AI software involved.

    "PUBLICIS SAPIENT" - Directly interfaces with HHS IT and is responsible for the coordination of all medical personnel and organizations.

    Household names...right?

    The above entities are what is controlling this world-wide crime against humanity.  They are the very foundation upon which it has been built.  Yet, they act to protect the individuals, who set them up and staff them, and direct them, who reside one level deeper then they do.

    And, these same entities are used directly by the U.S. Government.

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  • Wed, Nov 24, 2021 - 9:59am

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    Andy in the Sun

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    Just got the confirmation that Cris is right

    I have to thank Chris for this great video. I just watched it a few hours ago and he is spot on with his analysis of the current madness, the divide and rule game, the rat in the cage comparison and the social division. I have not expected to receive a head-on confirmation of all this so quick. However, it did not take long - just only 1 hour for a "live conformation".

    In a company internal conference call with the company office in Vienna a few minutes later inevitably, in the small talk before the work matter, the covid situation was touched.   (I am located in the Middle East)

    Within less than a minute the Vienna participants (two ladies) geared up shouting and screaming out all their hate and abysmal dislike about the non-vaxxers. There was no way to stop that rant with reasoning and facts. Nothing mattered… “Everything is because the unvaxxed… the statistics say that… all hospitals are full with unvaxxed people…. they interviewed someone with a tinfoil hat… this are only idiots… “.

    It was impossible to bring on the matter of early treatment. Everyone who is sick is in the ICU. And yes, “…the doctors in the ICUs know better… the experts saying this… every idiot thinks he know better that the experts…”

    When just calmly referenced to Dr. Malone or Dr Shetty it triggered an avalanche of “…the first people died because on horse paste and Vitamin D… No, No, No, No, I don’t want to hear that anymore… that is only vax-deniers talk… all f*£%ing stupid people… they should be thrown out of the hospital…”.

    And... as Chris pointed out, alone for calmly mentioning facts outside the main box and raising doubts on the official narrative - I was one of them... Anti-vaxxer!!

    Eventually after 15-20min things calmed down because work matters had to be discussed.

    After the web call I had to lean back for a minute and digest and reflect. It was exactly that what Chris described.

    I have to say that I have grown up under communist rule. I experienced discussion between 120% ters (that were the term for the ones totally convinced from the good of communism) and normal/critical thinking people.  But wow boy...  I have never experienced this aggressive hate. I cannot see how that can get back to normal again. I have the fear, this upcoming division within our society will stay long.

    P.S. After digestion... I now believe that the Deagel forecast we discussed a few days ago looks suddenly not so unrealistic anymore IF... ADE kicks in and all is getting blamed on the anti-vaxxers.     The rump up in suicides Deagel expects might turn out to be in truth homicides.

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  • Wed, Nov 24, 2021 - 11:37am

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    luiting57 said:

    Pretty scary I would imagine. Thanks for sharing. yes, my concern is that the vaxxed are losing the ability for critical thinking. Very much what Clif High said when being interviewed by Greg Hunter on USA Watchdog on Rumble. Clif said we would have many Vaxidents caused from slowing of cognitive function.

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  • Wed, Nov 24, 2021 - 11:41am

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    Enemy Action, Rats in a Cage, Divide and Conquer, the Matrix.

    The "enemy" is both foreign, domestic, and is also within our own minds and within our own selves and within our own deliberately socially-engineered and distorted and perverted normative values.

    Identifying the external enemy outside of our own selves is easier- just follow the money- than is the moral and intellectual courage to acknowledge that your whole life and value set and worldview was totally, deliberately, manipulated towards your own detriment.

    Overcome your own enemy within, firstly, and then overcoming the enemy that's without all becomes mere childs play in comparison.

    The good will of truth, of real wisdom, and of the Verifiable Facts to Power only become possible when your fear of death or worse is overcome by ones courage and ones faith.

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  • Wed, Nov 24, 2021 - 11:42am

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    luiting57 said:

    Love Clif High. He taught me about cryto in his Alta Reports. I have to say I read his reports as far back as 1999 when he talked about the "Sun" disease that would decimate the world population. I stopped following him then because I thought he was crazy. Then in 2014 I found Clif again talking about altcoins and so looked into them. I wait for his videos on Bitchute. I do wish he was also on Rumble but he must have a good reason to not be on that platform.

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  • Wed, Nov 24, 2021 - 11:46am

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    Elite Agenda

    My guess is that we could become sustainable and have enough food to feed the world with vertical grow buildings and solar either from biotech or solar panels. But, the elite see this sustainability issue as a reason for a power grab. I don't believe they care about the earth or the environment at all. They care about their power and they need to be stopped.

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  • Wed, Nov 24, 2021 - 3:07pm

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    CrLaan said:

    Again as we say in French, "If it isn't broken don't fix it."

    Walensky is Polish.

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  • Wed, Nov 24, 2021 - 4:40pm

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    84Orwell said:

    Genocides have been going on for 1,000's of years. Slaves have been building massive stone cathedrals and monuments for the glory of some god or narcissistic for 1,000's of years. The war on nature has been going on for 1,000's of years. 
     
    Nothing has changed, they, "the Takers" believe they own you and the earth under your feet. The Takers will fight to the last nail and penny to keep their positions of authority and selfish golden splendor. These sordid people are not dumb or idiots, they known how to stay in power. They wrote the book on it.
     
    What perplexes me is that the the Takers have upped the anti. It seems they've put all their chips on the table for the greatest gamble of all time, winner take all; betting the average persons loss, fear, and wrath of their friends, job, and family will keep 'the little expendable people' on their knees for good. Now bluffing with trumped up dismemberment of billions of people through the fears of unvaxxed vs vaxxed;  blue liberal vs red Trump state; a constant 'almost' war with China or Russia, build or not build a wall to keep the dark skins out; climate devastation yes or no; shortages of toilet paper and Covid jabs; a 1984 Orwellian Ministry of Truth, and a list miles long. Any BS that keeps the people divided, while making obscene billions, creating a river of blood and death, consolidating power in the process.
    If George Carlin were alive, he'd have a field day with what the masses just can't see on their own. Would HBO air it?

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  • Wed, Nov 24, 2021 - 6:56pm

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    They’ll harvest what they saw

    Witnessing the protest globally, you can sense a tipping point approaching.

    This comment was below the video on YT.

    "The most terrifying force of death, comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know, that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people's door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy... but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone." - Author Unknown

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  • Wed, Nov 24, 2021 - 7:36pm

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    Andy in the Sun said:

    Well luiting,  it was. I kept myself maximum under control and let most of the time the rants run their way. Anything else would have blown the discussion out of proportion. And as I said... after the meeting I had to take a deep breath.

    However, more scary were that the comments carried subtle threats of getting denounced or being labelled as morally inferior and as such any reprisal would be just fair.

    That reminded me on the old (communist) STASI times where such tactics were used in order to keep you in line. Honestly speaking, this thoughts still move me now.

    As I slowly see it, although the western countries priding themselves constantly for being morally far above that what the STASI system was, the highly competitive environment within the western society is feeding certain nasty human traits (such as betrayal, denouncement and reprisal) in such way that the people itself might even exceed in doing that what under the STASI system were the norm.

     

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  • Wed, Nov 24, 2021 - 8:21pm

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    Global Elites Plan To Take Over The World (Revealed)





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  • Wed, Nov 24, 2021 - 8:57pm

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    Stillbirths exploding across Canada

    https://brightlightnews.com/full-interview-stillbirths-exploding-in-fully-vaccinated-mothers-dr-daniel-nagase/  [< 5 minutes]

    Dr. Daniel Nagase exposes the exploding cases of stillbirths in fully vaccinated Canadian women with 86 in 6 months in Waterloo, Ontario, which normally sees 5-6 per year. B.C. saw 13 stillbirths in 24 hours.

    Dr. Nagase goes on to discuss the actions Canadians can take to fight the suppression of this public data by govt and public health officials.

     

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  • Wed, Nov 24, 2021 - 9:22pm

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    A BC physician and fomer member of parliament speaks out

    https://www.kelownanow.com/watercooler/news/news/Opinion/Inside_Track_with_Ron_Cannan_If_a_doctor_has_information_on_COVID_vaccination_that_is_different_from_BC_s_PHO_or_Minister_of_Health_why_are_they_not_allowed_to_share#fs_105330

    Fellow Canadians - please share before this is deleted....

    ...The College will tell you that they have an open call process that is fair and transparent for the Board Director appointments. However, I served three years as Director for a BC Board. When my appointment came up for renewal, I received a call from the NDP government staff member who was overseeing Board appointments and told me that she appreciated my work on the Board. However, new Board Directors were being appointed based on skin colour, gender, ethnicity and Aboriginal identity. Nothing to do with merit! I am not a member of a provincial political party so I am sure that didn’t help either, in this fair and transparent appointment process! ... [bold my emphasis]

    One doctor I spoke to teaches at UBC and they are not required to be vaccinated (just rapid testing as required). However, this person also teaches UBC medical students at KGH and is now not allowed to teach the students without being vaccinated. This doctor also has their own practice with 20 years’ experience. Another BC doctor I spoke to is Dr. Steve Pelech. Dr. Pelech has over 33 years’ experience as UBC professor, medical researcher and President CSO (Chief Scientific Officer) of a bio-tech company. Here is a link to his bio.

    Dr. Pelech is near the end of his career so he is not afraid to speak the truth without facing ramifications from his association. Actually, Dr. Pelech stated that more and more of his peers are now approaching him and sharing firsthand information as to what is happening to patients in BC and across Canada. Dr. Pelech is the Chair of the Scientific Advisory Committee of the Canadian Covid Care Alliance. They represent over 1,000 members, comprised of physicians, research scientists (including virologists, vaccinologists and immunologists) and others, including highly accomplished professors from top Canadian universities, allied healthcare professionals, and lawyers from across Canada, who have serious concerns with respect to the management of the COVID-19 pandemic in this country.

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  • Thu, Nov 25, 2021 - 5:53am

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    Israel

    My understanding is that things have calmed down for a while, between the booster rollout and the end of the 4th wave, The numbers are starting to tick up again in younger kids, or so they say. So they are fearmongering the parents to get the kids vaxed immediately before they have a fifth  wave and have to shut stuff down again. Which makes little sense of course as really, who cares if kids get Covid? Really better off if they do and gain natural immunity. Some parents are getting the kids vaxed, and of course Bennett did a photo op getting his own little kid vaxed, but I think many will not. And with Hanukah starting this weekend, there will be lots of gatherings and kid oriented activities so of course it will spread ..........

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  • Thu, Nov 25, 2021 - 8:45am

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    Gregory said:

    when is the passover? a repeat of history would be truly horrific.

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  • Thu, Nov 25, 2021 - 12:53pm

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  • Thu, Nov 25, 2021 - 2:11pm

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    Terminating the Terminators!

    Like them, once that wrath has been released by those that just wanted to be left alone, nothing will stop them until they all are terminated!

    Beware what you wish for, tyrants, for it has a real bad way of coming back to bite you!

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  • Thu, Nov 25, 2021 - 2:59pm

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    WHO says time to discuss mandatory vax

    This is incredibly disturbing. Introducing the new phase of normal?

    https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/the-who-says-its-time-to-discuss

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  • Thu, Nov 25, 2021 - 3:19pm

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    anti-vax anger: possible mechanism of action

    From my own personal experience, having an inflammatory condition, combined with stress from the pandemic, resulted in a serious depletion of NAD+, that gave me a great deal of anxiety.  I didn't even know I had this underlying anxiety until I started the niacin; once I got over the flush, it was like I had been carrying around this weight which was just suddenly gone.

    And this is with my meditation and exercise and a reasonably good diet, a normal BMI, and so on.

    Note that Bill W noticed the same thing about his life-long depression, which left him 3 weeks after taking niacin.

    That semi-magical change in my own situation is what really triggered me to do all this research on niacin.  What's the mechanism?  What else does it address?

    Right.  So we know that the shot (+ boosters) is effectively an induced inflammatory condition.  (Remember how those PULS markers more than doubled post-vax?)

    It would not surprise me if there were knock-on anxiety issues for the vaxxed much as I had from my own situation due to the NAD+ depletion.  NAD+ depletion => anxiety & depression.  And who knows, maybe anger too.

    More boosters = more NAD+ deficiency.  Just a guess now.

    Perhaps - they just aren't themselves.   And they don't even know it.  Just like I didn't know it.

    I'd like to hand them all a bunch of niacin. It might help.

    "The flush just tells you that the niacin is working!"

    I know.  Not gonna happen worldwide.  But maybe I can help my friends.

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  • Thu, Nov 25, 2021 - 4:25pm

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    Niacin question

    Dave, how much total niacin per day did you take before noticing an improvement in mood? I can’t seem to get past 200 MG despite a very slow incremental increase. I know this is considered a very modest dose. I want to try again but the flush, even at 200 MG, it took me a week to tolerate. I know better than to block it with a salicylate.

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  • Thu, Nov 25, 2021 - 6:45pm

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    Add Melatonin

    @Susan,   try to combine Niacin with Melatonin. I would start with taking 3mg Melatonin and see if you can handle the Niacin better.  If there is no change you may up to 5mg.

    Take the Melatonin 30min ahead of the Niacin.

    Would like to hear of your experience with that.

    P.S. The Niacin tolerance is depend on a number of factors i.e. body weight. This could be one reason your tolerance is at the lower side.

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  • Thu, Nov 25, 2021 - 7:10pm

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    Guinify said:

    After reading Hoffer this summer, I decided to try niacin for my anxiety. I'd tried for years to manage it various ways, including SSRIs after a very intense panic attack about a year ago. (The SSRI side effects were even less pleasant for me than the anxiety, but I'm glad I have some on hand in case someone needs it for C.) I started with smaller doses (less than 250 mg total per day) and now I take 500 mg 3x a day. I do still flush some, but not much as long as I diligently take it on time. The flush was very intense for me at first - even painful. But I keep it up because my mood is so, so much better.

    It's important to take it multiple times a day if you want to mitigate the flush. Hoffer usually recommended his patients take it 6 times a day. Have you tried taking small doses multiple times a day? If you have tablets, not filled capsules, you can try dividing your pill into even smaller doses and spreading them out throughout the day.

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  • Thu, Nov 25, 2021 - 9:04pm

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    Niacin B3 - speedy positive effects

    Hi Susan, re niacin, for me at least, I felt the positive effects of B3 right away.

    For about a week I had been feeling a gloomy grey pressure around the head that's usually a harbinger of incipient low grade depression; I took 250mg B3, felt a flush, went to bed, and felt better in the morning--as if the pressure had been burned out of my skull. A good clean feeling.

    After a couple more days at 250mg, I stepped it up to 500mg, which I take right before bed with 6mg melatonin and water, and usually fall asleep before the flush even kicks in, so I don't feel it very often. When I do feel it, it reminds me of going to sleep w a sunburn, so there's a vague association with stickball summers--not the worst thing as we are heading into the shortest days and winter.

    Generally speaking, I feel pretty sunny mentally, even though like everyone else here I have a lot on my mind. I credit the B3 bc I can't think what else it might be--and I don't take any other meds, alcohol, etc. I haven't gone beyond the 500mg because there does not seem to be any need to. I generally get out for a 5-8 mile walk every day, and that generates a pleasant drowsiness at night that helps me get to sleep without too much delay.

    The people in the video below were suffering from extreme manic-depression and schizophrenia, and appear to have been greatly helped by mega doses of vitamins, and got back on beam with proper nutrition, exercise, and therapy. It also appears they were able to get off pharmaceuticals altogether: the vitamins provided the positive benefits without any of the nasty side effects.

    Short video on Hoffer, vitamin & nutritional therapies. Vitamins B3, B6, B12, C, zinc.

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  • Thu, Nov 25, 2021 - 10:13pm

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    WHO says it's time to have a "healthy debate" about mandatory vaccination

    It sure is time!

    In order to accomplish that, we'll need to have a healthy, truthful and uncensored debate about the following first:

    1. Vaccine injuries.  What proportion of people suffer a significant vaccine injury?  Is there any pattern to injuries in terms of age, gender, general health, comorbidities, prior infection or accidental intravenous injection of the vaccine?  What are the long term prospects for vaccine injured people?  How much can their injuries be reversed?
    2. Vaccine effectiveness.  For how long and by how much do the vaccines prevent infection and transmission?  Is this significant enough to make the vaccines effective public health measures?  If not, how is it possible to justify mandates.
    3. Prophylaxis and immune system strengthening.  What prophylaxes and immune boosting supplements/lifestyle changes are available to reduce risk?  How does their risk mitigation compare to that of the vaccines?  How do their risks compare to those of the vaccines?
    4. Prior infection.  How effective is this in terms of impact and duration in preventing infection, transmission and severe disease as compared to the vaccines.
    5. Pandemic severity.  How dangerous is covid to different groups of people?  How do early treatment, prophylaxism, immune boosting and vaccines impact this risk?  How does the pandemic compare to previous pandemics for specific groups stratified by age, health or gender?

    Once we've had these debates in a meaningful and honest way, then we can debate mandates.

    I have a sneaky suspicion that, if done in this manner, the debate will last a minute or two and will result in near unanimous agreement against mandates, but then again, what do I know?

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  • Fri, Nov 26, 2021 - 12:10am

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    Sounds Like the Cloward-Piven Strategy

    Chris said,

    "Three times is enemy action. But 3 raised to the 5th is way more (than)
    enemy action.... The health authorities have come up with coin flips that are
    all tails. And this tells me that this is no longer just incompetence, but there's
    something else running.... They're not changing, they're doubling down, they're tripling
    down...."

    Sounds like the Cloward-Piven strategy:

    The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis.

    'The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the
    government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into
    crisis and economic collapse.'

    https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/organizations/clowardpiven-strategy-cps

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  • Fri, Nov 26, 2021 - 12:31am

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    Darker days in Aussie

    I keep remembering those fanatical eyes...

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  • Fri, Nov 26, 2021 - 12:35am

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    About what is going on in Australia

    This is why you NEVER give up your guns.

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  • Fri, Nov 26, 2021 - 12:49am

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    An experiment You can try at home.

    Rumour has it that there are carbon nano-particles in pills that you might be prescribed.

    So, in the interest of science,

    Dissolve your pills in a lass of water. Wait for everything to settle and then place a magnet on the glass. If you see a black cloud ascend to the magnet, guess what You have been swallowing.

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  • Fri, Nov 26, 2021 - 1:05am

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    Try adding some non-flush Niacin too

    Had adverse drug interaction from antibiotic and other things at the hospital. Read Dr. Hoffer and Dr. Ashton protocols.  During acute phase, I could only do flush-free niacin.  Still did well and got great calming effects.  Bonus was hair grew longer and thicker.  Combo with vitamin C and taurine.  Taurine lowers glutamate, excitatory chemical to brain, as well as great heart/kidney benefits. (Lowers blood sugar so try with food.)

    Now couple of years later, can tolerate some regular niacin without huge flushes. If the floxxed symptoms flare, I go back to vitamin C, FF niacin, and taurine combo.  Great relief of the sympathetic symptoms.

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  • Fri, Nov 26, 2021 - 1:46am

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    my dose

    I had 500 mg capsules.  I noticed the change after a week on 500 mg 1xday.  I am 74 kg.  I'm not saying it took a week for the effect to take place.  I just didn't realize it had happened until a week had passed!  "Whoa.  No anxiety!  I didn't even know I had anxiety!"

    I take 2x500 mg now.  Sometimes I flush, but mostly not.

    I expect that people have different levels of deficiency depending on their individual situation.  Hoffer has a ton of good information.  If niacin doesn't fix something instantly (and in some people, it took weeks), perhaps you can add other things, per Hoffer, to see what works.

    Lots of good information here - although you do have to know what you are looking for:

    http://www.doctoryourself.com/index.html

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  • Fri, Nov 26, 2021 - 5:25am

    Andy in the Sun

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    CPS strategy

    I am certain that the ones that soaked up this strategy must be celebrating by now... but I guess their end-goal will be the collapse of the pension system(s).
    Interesting to see the CPS strategy originated 1966 - at the time the ideas of the Frankfurt School were solidly "incorporated" into the American society.

    So, what I am seeing is... the ones who were in the university age in the mid 60th... are now 75+ years old. -> That matches the age of our "gurus" behind the scenes (aka Soros and co) and their students are now in their mid 50th -> that matches many of our political and NGO leaders.

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  • Fri, Nov 26, 2021 - 10:46am

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    Austria violating international law

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/11/25/austria-imposing-mandatory-vaccination-regime-violates-international-law/

    ...“We haven’t been able to convince enough people to vaccinate,” Schallenberg said in an effort to rationalize the draconian decision. “For too long, I and others have assumed that you can convince people to get vaccinated.”

    Incidentally, Schallenberg, who descends from a long line of blue-blooded Austro-Hungarian nobles, was hand chosen to replace Sebastian Kurz as chancellor last month as the latter became embroiled in a testy corruption probe. Immediately following Schallenberg’s appointment, wily Covid-19, perhaps seeing a golden opportunity for a power play amid the chaos, surged in the country.

    What the new Austrian chancellor seems to have forgotten, however, in his desire to play medical dictator is that people have a right to self-autonomy over their bodies. Strongly encouraging civilians to receive a vaccination is one thing; forcing it upon them by coercion – on pain of financial penalties and even imprisonment in the event they cannot pay – is crossing the humanitarian red line. That much, at least, has been determined by the United Nations. ...

     

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  • Fri, Nov 26, 2021 - 11:39am

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    They need your children!

    Not sure if this has been posted yet. Worth a listen - half an hour.

    Melissa Ciummei, a financial investor from Northern Ireland, has serious concerns that injection passports will be used more like data passports to control participation in society.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u11I8Jh-CsM&ab_channel=TheIrishInquiry

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  • Fri, Nov 26, 2021 - 1:35pm

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    Dontknownothin

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    Main lesson of the 20th century

    TL;DR bureaucracy is the enemy, evolution favors the victims not the oppressors. This is far from over, but there is an end.

    I think that everything going on globally is based on acceptance of the primary lesson of the 20th century and the myriad tyrannies that dominated throughout:

    A nation can commit innumerable atrocities, face the repercusions, and then just apologize for 50 years and the world will forgive them.

    There is no equal opposite reaction to exterminate the villains, there are only a select and public few who are truly held to account. And the majority of the functionaries of atrocity escape justice by insulating themselves from the consequences of their actions. Bureaucrats who are "just following orders" do this all the time. Organic automatons plugged into a system that demands injustice through a thousand individual oppressive acts that compound the "othering" until each bureaucrat is only responsible for one one-thousandth of a share of one life being reduced from private citizen, to ashes in an incinerator. And who can claim murder by bureaucracy if one functionary has such a miniscule portion of the blame? How can you hold those people responsible? So the bureaucracy escapes the justice they deserve and continue to live on and target other groups similarly "othered". And only wait to enact the final solution on a population when someone of sufficient popularity and vehement vitriole, a true believer, comes to power.

    The mechanism for such tyranny already, and always exists in a bureaucracy. They are designed and conditioned to narrowly follow the law. Conscience is beat out of them by limiting their power and reach unless they follow the law exactly and the orders given to them within the limits of that law. If law is blind, those targetted for persecution are colorless in the eyes of the bureaucrat. They are without ideology. They are purely points of data that must be reduced or expanded by any means. Bureaucracy is the purest form of social liberalism. Bureaucracy is the idealized economy of liberalism. All bureaucrats are given a rank, all are given ration tokens (i.e. $$$) proportionate to their rank, rank increases by following rules and following orders. Communism seeks to bureaucratize a whole population. Fascism seeks to promote the bureaucracy to pre-eminence. Theocracy seeks to bureaucratize morality, laws and morality become synonymous and punishments are harsh. All sin is a capital offense, and all laws are designed to root out sin. And in every form of government this bureaucracy forms and grows as crises are discovered or created, and people seek an external moderator between individuals.

    This bureaucracy proves at every moment of history to be the source of all persecutions and tyranny. A force without conscience, without personal interest, and without regard for evidence to obediently follow their orders within the established rules of a society created through innumerable systems of governance. Without a doubt, bureacracy is the greatest threat to the people because it is so persistent and unsympathetic. But this is the one institution that flourishes under any system of government regardless of the ideology.

    This is why it is so difficult to remove injustice. This is why tyranny never truly is removed. This is why Germany can implement similar laws that once targetted Jews, to now target "unvaccinated". These bureacrats can remove the guilt of their own obedience by playing such a small role in the demise of any individual.

    "If they only got vaccinated they could have been allowed to work"

    "If they only were working they could have paid their taxes"

    "If they had only paid their taxes, they could have kept their property"

    "If they had kept their property, they could have had food and shelter"

    "If they had food and shelter they wouldn't have to be on the dole"

    "If they weren't on the dole, they wouldn't have to live in our centralized poverty centers"

    "If they weren't in our centers, they wouldn't have such poor health"

    "If they didn't have such poor health, the virus wouldn't have weakened them."

    "If they weren't so weak, employers would hire them."

    "Since employers won't hire them, they are burdens of the state."

    "Burdens of the state must be reduced as the economy falters"

    "The economy is faltering because the work force is depleted."

    "The work force is depleted because the virus is reducing public health"

    "The vaccine is the ONLY solution for stopping the virus"

    "All citizens must be vaccinated to stop the virus"

    "No citizen can work or socialize without the vaccine"

    It takes only one more step and one more creative political solution to reduce the burdensome populations that require subsistence from the government, and that is eradication. Each step is an individual agency enforcing a narrow rule that compounds to a final outcome for those who choose not to comply, or are unable to comply because of some unchangeable biological characteristic.

    It is a consistent phenomenon that Conservatism molds biology (fear and selectivity of phenotypes and cultures), and liberalism molds behavior (individualized choices, attitudes, thought processes and styles). Both are homogenizing forces that over a long evolutionary timeline lead to subspeciation via selection. Unvaccinated is a behavior, a behavior of critical thinking, of rebellion, of perhaps fear or alertness. With the unemotional force of bureaucracy targetting this group, and society so complacent in its persecution, we could see how the evolution of the western world at least would trend toward a slavish obedience to authority and intellectual complacency. We can see how a population made up of such a mentality could easily forgive itself of any crimes it has committed against the unvaccinated, where fifty years of self-flagelation might be enough to convince our western world that the abomination they have and will commit to, is justified or forgivable. After all, the survivors are the ones who write the narrative and every villain strives to justify their own actions.

    I don't think this will stop. I don't think those committed to the current course will allow any variance from their current policy objective. I think they will redouble their efforts and when faced with the reality of their own guilt or failure, they will lash out much more violently and ruthlessly. And in 50 years they will blame the weakness of the society today that allowed the horrors to unfold, they will say they've learned, they will say they've atoned, and they will say that its actually the fault of [insert ideology or culture] to create another atrocity.

    This is evolution. Today though, we are the victims of its oppression.

    Many though will be surprised to discover that it is more often the victims that evolution favors. That the meek are the ones who inherit the earth. That a slave as a tool is more useful and more sought after than the master, and by that dynamic the slave outbreeds the master and eventually usurps them. That the survivors of eradication are the strongest of a persecuted population and those traits are more prolific in their rebound. And selective pressure actually STRENGTHENS the selected trait. So when all is said and done, critical thinking and resistance to authority will actually be much stronger traits amongst the human population. So take heart, it will be difficult times ahead, but it has an end and on the other side is a new start.

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  • Fri, Nov 26, 2021 - 7:23pm

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    "The Chicken Shit Falls from the Top Down."

    "The chicken shit falls from the top down." Always has. Always will. As soon as the rats realize that the source of their troubles are not each other, but these professional politicians, the sun will rise again. We need to turn on these professional politicians. Right now, these professional politicians believe they run the show and own the place.  The US Capitol Building belongs to the people. It's our house; not theirs. They are just guests. However, these professional politicians believe they own the place. The American People need to visit the Capitol Building again. This country was founded "of the people. by the people, for the people." Time to water the tree of liberty and toss these professional geriatrics to the curb.

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 10:50pm

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    Heartbreaking testimony - shattered life of a vaccine-injured person

    This testimony really makes one wonder - where is the humanity in our health system? In our regulatory bodies?

    The COVID Vaccine "Shattered My Life"

     

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  • Sat, Nov 27, 2021 - 10:52pm

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    NEJM dismisses query from a woman injured in Astra Zeneca trial

    She asks whether they will issue a clarification to the conclusion that the vaccien is safe and effective.

    New England Journal of Misinformation | Dr. David Healy

     

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  • Sun, Nov 28, 2021 - 1:07pm

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    westcoastjan

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    The more they take the more we will push back

    https://spencerfernando.com/2021/11/23/as-long-as-dishonest-governments-continue-moving-the-goalposts-public-anger-will-continue/

    .... Look at that again.

    The government of Austria is now planning to throw people in jail if they don’t pay a fine for not getting vaccinated.

    How can they consider themselves a free country?

    Now, lets consider this:

    Do you think anyone in Austria thought it would come to this?

    Do you think anyone in Austria would have gone along with this if the government had told them it would reach this point?

    If people knew this from the beginning, then there would have been a revolt.

    But, this ratcheting down of freedom has taken place in stages.

    It’s the same way the government has spoken about vaccinations, and how the goalposts have endlessly moved. ....

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  • Mon, Nov 29, 2021 - 12:03pm

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    luiting57 said

    I'm a fan of Clif High as well; many would consider him a bit out there, but in the last six months, his reports have been pretty accurate.  Back in the day? Not so much. He's now on telegram at scifi world.

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