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  • Sun, Mar 29, 2020 - 8:59am

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    mntnhousepermi

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    The problem is it is a pandemic

    The problem is it is a pandemic and they are infectious.  The medical system is not failing us.  It is always our choice on what treatment we want or where to die.  Except in a disease outbreak like this it is necessary to have quarantine.  this is not the fault of our medical system ! And I am no fan of many practices in general, but in this, there is no choice once you go to the hospital there is then no way to safely leave while you are still infectuous.

    So, you have a choice for yourself and your loved ones, where do you want to be to ride out this illness ?  This is your choice.  You will need to stay in one spot and be quarantined while you have it.  You choose based on your own risk assessment, stay at home or go to the hospital.  I would think that what you choose would vary based on current conditions in your areas hospital and your age and health.  If you or your loved one is 80 years old and already ill, you may both choose to have this ill person stay at home where you provide the care and the household stays quarantined ( with neighbors dropping food on the doorstop) for the duration and 14 days after the ill person either gets better or passes away.  But, how is this choice the fault of the medical system ?  It is just a hard choice, but it is your choice.  I would likely choose to keep my ill parent at home to die.

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  • Sun, Mar 29, 2020 - 8:58am

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    Yoxa

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    DIY mask materials - shirt sleeves + odd socks

    If you want to make a DIY mask but don’t have craft fabric on hand, consider your dish towels as a source for finely woven fabric.

    Also, check your closet for a long sleeved shirt that you could convert to short sleeves. Cut off part of the sleeves, then cut the sleeve material to shape, according to your mask pattern. Go back later to hem the cut-off sleeves.

    Also consider: socks. A sock can be cut into a flat piece of knit material useful for one of your mask layers. At last, a use for orphan socks!

    You could make a fabric mask without a sewing machine, as long as you have a needle and thread. If you don’t have elastic, create fabric straps that could be tied around your ears or your head.

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  • Sun, Mar 29, 2020 - 8:48am

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    New Topic?

    It is being reported that a lot of people hooked up to respirators are dying alone.  If approximately 80% of those on respirators don’t make it, would it be better to die in the arms of a loved one than isolated and alone?  Our healthcare system has failed us.  You won’t be allowed to hold their hand, provide love and comfort.  Have you considered this?

    My opinion, no one should have to die alone.  But then I was there for my Mom, my Dad and my Brother.  Are you willing to shove a loved one into an overworked, perhaps understaffed hospital and know if they die, they will die alone?

    Something to think about. What would you want?

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  • Sun, Mar 29, 2020 - 8:37am

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    drbrucedale

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    Assume Good Intent

    Joanna840: Hohhot had one sentence out of a long and useful post that you object to on ideological grounds.  That is hardly a rant.

    You don’t know enough about Hohhot to stigmatize him/her on those grounds, or to apply that emotionally-charged label. We need to assume good intent on the part of our fellow beings until we know differently–otherwise we assume too many people are “deplorable” when the only supporting evidence for that is that they hold different opinions.

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  • Sun, Mar 29, 2020 - 8:27am

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    curlyschat1

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    Micheal Greger's lecture on Pandemics and factory farming presented over 10 years ago.

    An excellent fact based lecture on Nutritionfacts.org and youtube called Pandemics: History and Prevention. This lecture was presented over 10 years ago…. We have ignored the tragedy of factory farming and the proverbial chicken has come home to roost!

     

    https://nutritionfacts.org/video/pandemics-history-prevention/?utm_source=NutritionFacts.org&utm_campaign=602d431cbe-RSS_VIDEO_WEEKLY&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_40f9e497d1-602d431cbe-27474449&mc_cid=602d431cbe&mc_eid=0b615ebf9e

     

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  • Sun, Mar 29, 2020 - 8:13am

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    AKGrannyWGrit

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    We have discussed details, are you ready for a big picture discussion?

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  • Sun, Mar 29, 2020 - 8:12am

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    Quercus bicolor

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    New York statistics look Grim

    First total tests.  We’re up to 0.8% of the entire population:

    Now positives.  Now at 0.3% of the population.  The tail in the exponential rate is hopefully good news but is likely be related to testing which also tails off recently:

    Hospitalizations keeping in mind pre-pandemic bed numbers were 53000 with 3000 ventilators – growing more or less exponentially:

    Deaths – also growing exponentially:

    Now a look at positive test rate.  How much does this represent the underlying rate in the population and how much is selection bias?

    The early days with few tests are excluded.  Positive rate seems to be approaching 50%.

    And finally positive rate by region:

    New York City and most suburban counties are around 0.35%.  Westchester is 0.81%.  Upstate is at 0.05%.  True infection rates are probably 1-6% downstate.  At a doubling time of let’s say 5 days, that’s herd immunity in under a month, but the next few weeks will likely be tragic.  Unfortunately, the next week or two of deaths is already in the pipeline with incubating cases.  But the majority of the tragedy is at least 2 weeks out – not too late to get masks for all and truly flatten the curve.

    Call to action for everyone in New York (and elsewhere):  Let’s flood social media and the governor’s office with requests for Andrew Cuomo and his staff to wear hand-sewn masks at the next press conference!

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  • Sun, Mar 29, 2020 - 8:06am

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    LesterFinn

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    WaPo article: Wear a Mask

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/03/28/masks-all-coronavirus/

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  • Sun, Mar 29, 2020 - 7:53am

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    Amanda Schrader

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    A facebook profile picture

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  • Sun, Mar 29, 2020 - 7:46am

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    Carlene

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    Family doctor in the Netherlands tries to gets his message about face mask (in)to the government

    Dutch family physician/doctor Walter Schrader from Leiden has written an Open Letter to the governement of the Netherlands stating that he has a plan to arrange face masks for every dutch citizen in just a few days. He tries to gets his message through which does not seem so easy yet. Here is his Open Letter (in dutch, but google translate will probably be willen to help):  http://www.pdfarchief.com/openbrief.pdf

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