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    Merry Christmas, from 2031 (Part I)

    Postcards from the Dystopian Edge
    by phildenn

    Monday, November 29, 2021, 8:24 PM

By: Phil Denniston

Part I: It’s now called Global Gratitude Day (GGD2).

Note: This column was submitted to PeakProsperity.com on Weds, November 23rd at 2:40 PM, one day before the Omicron variant was reported to the WHO and three days before the WHO declared it a Variant of Concern. Is this life imitating art, or is the Pandemic Playbook becoming all too predictable?

It’s 6:00 AM on Thursday, December 25th, 2031, and just like clockwork, the birds begin to chirp through the speakers built into the walls. Quietly at first, and then louder.

“Alexa, I’m awake”.

It’s nice to wake up and not be afraid. The sheets are clean, and there’s black coffee waiting in the common area. Usually. Well, sometimes.

“Alexa, what’s my Social Credit Score (SCS)?”

Shit! Down five points, just like that, and only last night I had a 91. I was kind of expecting it, but I check the Metaverse anyway… At least the notification is private: Reminiscing pre-WGW.

Stop being so stupid, Quinn.

They allowed us two holiday drinks, and I got wishy-washy. I wasn’t criticizing. I know we need to sacrifice. Sometimes, I just miss the old days, like when we could travel.

It’s my 2nd warning; a 3rd will shade my Meta profile red for two months.

I’ve been so good; they must appreciate that. Whatever they use to track my carbon has to be almost perfect; I haven’t left the Pod in 68 days. My consumption and productivity levels are good, and I don’t like, share, or create misinformation. I’ve never even fallen for any of their Meta-Traps.

Don’t worry. I’ve still got all three Citizenship Badges: Climate, Justice, and Compliance. Mom and dad are proud, I just know it.

Sometimes though, I just want to talk about the past.

The days of yore

It feels like yesterday, back when we called them Thanksgiving and Christmas. Driving three hours from blistery UMass in dad’s old Civic back to Tarrytown, NY the anticipation was electric.

After months at school, there was nothing better than Christmas Day. The smell of Mom’s famous dinner, twin turkey and hams roasting in the oven as she quizzed me on classes, friendships, dating and parties, mixing gravy with that big smile, her favorite Christmas carols setting the mood to perfection.

Dad mashed away at the potatoes, reminding us how they always taste better a little chunky, and with the skin on. He never liked helping in the kitchen, except when it was time to mix the drinks.

Laughter roared in from the yard, sisters and cousins taking turns on all the new toys Santa brought – sleds, scooters, bikes, and trikes – six cars front-to-end in the driveway. A fire crackled on in the fireplace under five stockings from the mantle as the Giants game played for no one in particular in the den.

It was as good as it gets, the holidays we shared before the Twin Emergencies. Before the global COVID and Climate Pandemics changed everything.

It’s so different now, sometimes it feels like that was all a dream. Or is this the dream?

It’s hard to reconcile the emotions. All that love, it quickly gives way to shame, an anxiety that’s hard to bear, thinking back to the carbon footprint we made, even on a single day in December.

We were so stupid, all of us.

We didn’t realize, but we should have. It was us. It was all of us, Americans especially… we were killing the planet. We were the cause of the Climate cancer that strangled Mother Earth.

Thank goodness for COVID-19.

It united the world, or much of it, to save the climate. Leaders from the USA, Europe, New Zealand and Australia mobilized our collective strength. They created a World Government for the West (WGW), to curtail twin COVID and Climate Crises. They partnered with big corporations – big tech, big banks, and big box stores – to introduce an inventory-management of people, products, and information.

They told us what to do to save the planet, to protect each other, and to save ourselves.

The road to serfdom

It started slowly. After the vaccines and booster campaigns, we had to come together as one to beat COVID, “the War-on-COVID”, we began to call it.

It was the only way back to normal, they said. I remember the day I was finally able to get my fourth Moderna booster. I cried when I finally got to see Mom and Dad again.

Some didn’t want the vaccines. They believed the misinformation; it was everywhere.

Meta worked hard to take it down, the misinformation. We had armies of Fact Checkers, but at first, it just kept popping up. Lies about vaccine deaths or injuries were everywhere.

They even tried to blame the effects of climate change – like heart disease in children – on the vaccines.

Misinformation had become weaponized – it was now called “Cyber Terror” – they told us, maybe from Russia or domestic terrorist, white supremacist groups. The media would do their best to protect us.

If you stayed in your lane, wore your mask, and followed CDC, you could be safe.

We were allowed to go places and do things if we stayed current on boosters, while it became hard for the unvaccinated. If you can’t protect your community, you can’t participate.

Sorry, not sorry.

Leading up to the 2024 election, there was another surge of COVID from a new, Sigma variant. Unlike Delta and Omicron, Variants of Concern, the CDC and WHO called Sigma a Variant of High Consequence. This meant that prevention and medical countermeasures had significantly reduced effectiveness.

It was all over the news…

“The Sigma variant is said to have mutated and transmitted from Patient Zero, an unvaccinated woman in Ocala, FL, a mother of three admitted members of the Proud Boys. The deadly strain of COVID 19 is vaccine resistant. The CDC reports a disproportionately high number of infections in the vaccinated population, and low vaccine-induced protection against severe illness and hospitalization.”

Most States went back into full lockdown mode – essential businesses only – while Pfizer, Jansen, and Moderna created new boosters, in some cases doubling the dose of active ingredients.

Harris-Warren ran on a campaign of vaccine mandates to end-the-lockdowns.

They won re-election over Trump-DeSantis by the widest margin ever, receiving 71% of the popular vote. The conspiracy theorists said that was impossible, but so many of us just hated Trump.

Though she stepped into the role after Biden’s stroke and sudden death in 2022, to have a black woman elected President was a huge victory, with another woman serving as VP.

On January 6th, President Harris issued Executive Order (EO) 14575 mandating that every American over three be fully vaccinated against COVID 19, including boosters every six months.

There were more riots at the Capital, another insurrection.

Protests erupted and became riots on both sides. The unvaccinated were the problem. They were the reason we couldn’t go back to normal. They wanted ‘individual liberty’, ‘state’s rights’, and chanted ‘my body, my choice’, but COVID doesn’t give any of us a choice. It’s about protecting our community.

We had to protect our community.

Some – even the same people turning up at opposing rallies – seemed to want only rage and destruction. They wanted to blow everything up to pay for America’s sins.

Pallets of brick somehow arrived on street corners ahead of scheduled rallies.

The destruction was allowed to go on, described as peaceful, even justified. Any country that allowed nearly 100 years of legalized slavery, that justifies the destruction of property.

I was so naïve, with my white privilege.

To me, slavery had been the stuff of history books, but that was foolish thinking – white privilege – thinking that way, not knowing any better. So much guilt and shame, as I look back at who I was.

Shame about slavery, shame about racism, shame about climate.

Dozens of cities burned, and local police departments were overwhelmed. Governors pleaded for help, and the Harris Administration stepped in to bring order, issuing 35 new Executive Orders for Martial Law with curfews, restrictions on hate speech, and temporarily suspending the 2nd Amendment.

People were asked to turn in their guns, and received reimbursement. Neighbors, friends, and family members who identified others harboring guns were rewarded with $15,000 each.

Anyone opposing the new rules was labeled a white supremacist, anti-vaxxer, or domestic terrorist. Military vehicles paraded through the streets, rounding them up for reeducation in quarantine camps.

We were happy to see them go, to see the fighting stop.

The Digital Dollar

The rioting ended, but America was anxious. We wondered if we would ever get to go back to normal. If everyone just follows the rules, we can be safe again, I kept reminding myself.

The President had a plan, they announced. Five women would lead us out of crisis, a first in history, America’s finest hour. We watched as Harris delivered a virtual State of the Union.

“My administration is making history. I am happy to report an end to suffering in America. No longer will single mothers have to work two jobs to put food on the table. No more will seniors need to skip meals to buy a modest birthday present for a grandchild. Together with Vice President Warren, Secretary Yellen, Chairwoman Brainard, and Comptroller Omarova, we will continue to Build Back Better, assuring every hardworking American gets a Universal Basic Income, above the poverty line.”

Roaring applause were chimed into the broadcast, and just like that, they ended poverty.

They rolled it out with an all-Digital Dollar, giving us all our own accounts with the Central Bank. I got $1,850 per month, and married couples got $2,775.

People stopped getting married after that.

The money came through an App on our phones, FedNow, but businesses got greedy, raising prices. We had more money, so they thought they could get away with charging more.

Capitalism is so gross.

Nobody was poor, but many of us still didn’t have things. It cost a lot just to get by.

Subscribers can read Part II of this story here.

Phil Denniston joins us as a contributing author from BadDaddy Publishing (www.thebaddaddy.com), where he self-publishes a line of Better Bedtime Stories educating families about the broken, debt-based fiat money system, and how to prepare for coming changes using the principles of liberty.
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  • Mon, Nov 29, 2021 - 9:21pm

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    LBL

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    LBL said:

    Meanwhile Israel Continues their Slow Motion Holocaust of the Palestinians

    Financed by the USA.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 3:20am

    DaveDD

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    The real agenda

    Melissa Keenan Ciummei - The Truth About The Global Lockdown A Warning To The World - A Trojan Horse For The Real Agenda

     FYI, she studied economics and theology. Prepare for the worst, but build, or start building a better future. Don’t let all this distract us…

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 6:14am

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    There's another ugly possibility

    By 2031 we will actually KNOW the long term effects of the vaccines and they may be fatal, taking as much as decades off the younger people's life expectancy who took the jab.  Worse, it may turn out that those who got multiple vaccines now have permanently disabled immune systems and develop all kinds of diseases and disabilities as a result.  This development in turn leads to total loss of confidence in western civilization leadership.   The right wing fringe groups become mainstream.  Orgnized violence against leftist become virulent and pervasive.  Belief in science collapses.  Actual racism becomes prevalent.  The west declines.  China takes over.   The end.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 6:39am

    davidrussell22

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    davidrussell22 said:

    There are no Palestinians.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 8:37am

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    Michigan

    The vast majority of COVID-19 patients are unvaccinated, according to the state. In the last 30 days of data (Oct. 14-Nov. 12), 72% of cases, 71% of hospitalizations and 75% of deaths were among individuals who were not fully vaccinated.

    https://www.hastingstribune.com/ap/agriculture/michigan-hits-new-record-for-adult-covid-19-hospitalizations-80-of-beds-full/article_87a6731a-09f6-59f5-8370-af5589ad681b.html

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 9:26am

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    Unvaccinated

    Unvaccinated =

    < two weeks from last jab.

    > six months from last jab.

    Any person admitted to hospital not showing current vaccination status on hospital records. IE. vaccinated at local clinic, Walmart, CVS, etc.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 9:32am

    LBL

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    >>>  There are no Palestinians.

    And it was Harry Potter Magic that caused Molten Steel to flow out the side of the World Trade Center, moments before its collapse.

    Video from a local New York television station coverage of the day.

    From "Solving 9-11: The Deception That Changed The World", by Chris Bollyn

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 9:36am

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    A recent study seeks to assess... - Unbiased Science Podcast

    Has anyone come across this FB group and assessed it's authenticity?
    A recent study seeks to assess... - Unbiased Science Podcast

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=446505253804477&id=105461361242203&m_entstream_source=timeline&anchor_composer=false

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 9:53am

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    michigan vs the nation of Germany

    RKI doesn't agree with Michigan.

    In Germany, most symptomatic 60+ patients are vaccinated (71%).  A majority of 60+ patients are vaccinated (56%).  A majority of 60+ who die - vaccinated (52.5%).

    I know!  They all need boosters!  Let's do more of what has been shown not to work.

    And we haven't even started to talk about all cause mortality.  The shots (overall) kill more people than they save.  This is Pfizer's own trial data saying this.  Not me.

    So not only do they not work for COVID - at least in the older group - THEY KILL MORE PEOPLE THAN THEY SAVE.  According to THEIR OWN TRIAL DATA.

    Hope that helps.  It probably won't though.  Because - The Backfire Effect.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 10:09am

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    Izzy Bea said:

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4711629128856360&id=100000279580555

     

    The base of the podcast is this, it seems.

    Question: does the data and research has selection bias or not? I will let experts like Dr. Chris Martenson evaluate it and educate us. Thanks.

     

     

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 10:50am

    Dontknownothin

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    Molten steel, secondary explosions and high heat

    The molten steel in the WTC collapse was likely caused by arcing from multiple severed phases of feeder wires. Most commercial buildings have electrical distribution panels on each floor and most hvac equipment runs on 277v fed from 3 phase 277/480v panels. If you cross phases you get massive arc faults that have instantaneous heat loads of something like 40000 degrees and can and will instantly liquify structural steel.

    Additionally most high rise buildings these days are built from the core outward, where the structural strength is at the center as opposed to the exterior. The oklahoma city bombing proved the folly of the latter design as the structural load of the building above it was on the exterior and as soon as that exterior was breached all the weight above it sloughed off. The WTC was built this same way. This also means that their electrical buss riser was likely along the exterior as well.

    The main city power vault is typically in the garage below the building. And while there are grounds and neutrals in the building that go to earth, there was very little ground fault protection in the main electrical room and none coming from the city power, so after the building collapsed all the structural steel and rebar that was suddenly within reach of the city power supply, and iron being a high resistance conductor, there would have been massive heat signatures coming from that power vault at least until the city killed power completely.

    As far as the plane causing collapse, the aluminum skin against the oxydized rebar and structural steel would create thermite, especially with the jet fuel burning and the myriad fires burning from all the flammables at each persons desk (remember this was all before complete digitization of records and people had bookshelves full of firehazards within easy reach of ignition sources). For the upper floors where the sprinkler riser would have likely been severed, there would be no fire extinguishing other than maybe a handful of the red ABC extinguishers which would not have been sufficient even if the people had been brave and experienced enough to use them effectively.

    Secondary explosions would have been everything from hot water tanks, to electrical panels to the backdraft of a superheated air shaft hitting an enclosed relatively cooler enclosed space and creating a sudden pressure increase in a confined space. All the questions raised are synonymous with an airplane hitting a high rise building with 1970's building codes and materials. Nothing really suspicious in the collapse unfortunately.

    Say what you will about it as a false flag of radicalized islamic mercenaries hired by the agencies to conduct a coordinated operations to lure our country into war and enrich the military-industrial establishment. The way the building collapsed and the collateral damage to surounding facilities was no surprise and unremarkable. Interesting, but pretty mundane in its actual explanation.

    Modern construction high rises are more often built to absorb shock from the outside. The central core is built to hold the weight of the outer shell with post tension cabling in the deck and the outer shell is just for weather proofing. Lessons learned the hard way.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 11:46am

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    Don'tknownothing.....

    I am frankly surprised my friend at your fanciful apologetics in recounting various anomalies related to the 9/11 collapse.  That thermite was magically formulated by the interaction of the aluminum plane with the building iron is chemical fantasy of the highest level... and I speak as a chemist with 35 years of industrial experience.

    The unreacted thermite particles that were found in multiple dust samples post 9/11, and that were tested in multiple labs, had a signature layered structure of red on top, gray on the bottom.  This was sophisticated, engineered material that was likely positioned around the building at critical positions on the beams as cutter charges.

    Here is one academic paper describing this material, which includes as lead writer PhD chemist Neils Harrit;

        https://www.academia.edu/9125166/Active_Thermitic_Material_Discovered_in_Dust_from_the_9_11_World_Trade_Center_Catastrophe

     

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 11:59am

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    Interesting scenario:  I don't really know how Occam's Razor would shave this, but here's some questions.  First, producing a thermite reaction at 3000+ F as the plane takes about 2/7 s to pass through the building, between fuselage aluminum and the oxidized part of rebar in the way, fueled by burning office supplies and jet fuel (though freely burning Jet A can hit 4000 F) seems a bit iffy.  Second, I'm unfamiliar with the municipal breaker system in NYC, but I wonder if the local power would be cut automatically long before the hot spots could form.  Third, there were certainly some substantial currents in the WTC  and arcing can produce some spectacular local temperatures but would they be too brief for ignition?  When I unplug a smoking toaster, the wall spark doesn't ignite the countertop- not because it's too cold, but because it's too brief to raise the material to the ignition temperature- much less melt the plumbing . Fourth, is this typical- fire breaks out in office building, resulting in sprays of molten metal from the rafters?  Would firefighters in urban environments require special safety equipment?

    Anyway, I think the confounding problem is that certain world figures immediately seized the opportunity to disdain the police and militarily attack those whom they found very profitable to blame.  It casts some doubt upon a straightforward engineering hypothesis about an honest unlikely chemical reaction- rather like someone instantly appearing on the ship's deck selling lifevests as soon as the leak is discovered -or a vender peddling unique vaccines with the debut of a...

     

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 12:43pm

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    stretching it

    And of course Bldg #7 must have been close enough to the other buildings that the electrical arcing and plazmatized aluminum jumped right over there and did it in as well.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 1:21pm

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    hey wait

    So you're saying that, on 9/11, two planes hit, but three buildings actually fell?

    Well.  That's kinda strange.

    Similarly: "Oh, my God, there’s been an outbreak of chocolatey goodness near Hershey, Pa. What do you think happened?  Like, ‘Oh I don’t know, maybe a steam shovel mated with a cocoa bean?’ Or it’s the fucking chocolate factory! Maybe that’s it!”

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 1:22pm

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    Fascinating paper. The spectrograms were interesting but still not outside what I'd expect from a building collapse but might update my model to say that its likely they used aluminum wire for their equipment because of how ubiquitous it is and the telling lack of copper in the assay.

    This line:

    Furthermore, the data in-dicate that wherever silicon or iron is concentrated, oxygen is also concentrated

    This is conrete encased rebar. The sand (silica) in the concrete, and the iron rebar. The oxygenation means there was rust (Fe), and probably spawling which likely contributed to the degraded integrity of the structure.

    The locations the dust was collected from is telling too, in that it is ubiquitous. You would expect that it would be concentrated in pockets were it a planted device, thermite is not an explosive reaction, it has a pretty low REF so there's little explosive force in it to propel the dust so consistently.

    I'm not sure on the stoichiometry of the thermite reaction but I thought the aluminum oxide reacting with ferrous oxide produce oxygen and an alloy of iron and aluminum. So the dust looks too high in oxygen to be a true thermitic reaction. There should be something similar to this.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 2:22pm

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    You are flailing and grasping here Don'tknow....

    I have no idea why you are doing this... seems your goal is to drive a naturistic narrative to describe certain chemical/physical 9/11 anomalies, in overall support of the government approved narrative.  Your commentary completely overlooks the obvious, engineered character of the unreacted nanothermite particles found.  Up to you if you want to keep digging Don'tknow.. but the hole you are digging is one in which you are burying your own credibility.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 2:34pm

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    What about wt7?!?

    Cognitive dissonance is a quite the force to be reccond with! As surprising as it is that he still can’t/won’t  see it I understand the why of it. It’s a big ask for most folk anyways...

    Nuff said already:





     

     

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 2:51pm

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    An arc flash can ignite everything and melts metal instantly and does throw molten pellets of the liquified metal in all directions. And the greatest resistor (the iron) is the part that will heat up in a continuous circuit. Think of the resistive coil in your oven. Line voltage on both ends and copper or alluminum wire up to it. The oxydized aluminum would be hard to explain from the wire alone, but those elements are common in commercial construction. I find the argument that canisters of thermite being discretely placed throughout the offices to be fairly difficult to pull off without raising suspicion. Always a nosy Karen in an office wondering "watcha doin?"

    I'm not saying it's impossible, but I'm in the commercial property management field and can attest to how difficult it is to work with certain tenants, particularly financial firms.

    I can't attest to the malaise in the industry in 2001 though. So it might have been much more lackadaisical then, than now.

     

    As far as building 7 goes, I was pretty sure it was severely damaged from the collapse of the two big towers and was torn down as a result, not that it was destroyed that day.

    As you recall there were windows and such shattered several blocks away too so debris and the shockwave of a 70+ story building collapsing nearby should create some pretty catastrophic damage all around.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 3:06pm

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    More discussion with Don'tknownothin....

    I find the argument that canisters of thermite being discretely placed throughout the offices to be fairly difficult to pull off without raising suspicion. Always a nosy Karen in an office wondering "watcha doin?"

    I can't figure out if you are here to deceive or if you really are mired in cognitive dissonance Don'tknow..  but you appear unaware of important information that sheds light on how 9/11 was pulled off;

    1)    https://www.winterwatch.net/2017/09/world-trade-centers-infamous-91st-floor-israeli-art-student-project/

    2)    https://wtcdemolition.blogspot.com/2001/07/wtc-elevator-renovation.html

    The elevator renovation project was happening at night... giving access to the main support columns inside the buildings.

    Nothing to see here....

     

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 3:18pm

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    Looking for Additional Information - Whistleblower Testimony

    Sorry, but I have to piggyback here. I never thought about asking around here for insight on this issue, but a lot of folks here have researched this topic.

    Years ago, I found testimony on YouTube of someone who was alleging that thermite was put into place during a long weekend for renovations. Now, that specific story is out there, but there was additional information that was unique. I mistakenly didn't download the video, and never found it again.

    The informant talked about computer software that he helped develop that could trace and track "deep state" budget expenditures. Reminded me of Catherine Austin Fitts Community Wizard. He enumerated a bunch of schemes and scandals the data of which was lost in WTC7. Anyways, the YouTube video was an image of a compact disc with some writing on it, and his voiceover.

    If anybody has any leads, thanks in advance.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 3:22pm

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    My credibility or reputation are irrelevant

    I'm just telling you what I know about explosives, and of commercial buildings, construction, building materials, demolition, building operations, electrical grids and how those systems react when messed with. Its engineering basics. The chemistry is too nuanced for me but the paper JimH presented shows that the samples were taken all around a few blocks away, and all showed the same composition. None of it suggests thermite was used other than as a secondary reaction.

    But to be honest, I really don't care about the twin towers or whether it was a planned demolition or an act of terror from a rogue anarchist or religious zealot. I've never dug into it and don't plan to. The result was the same and I could not and still can not do anything to change it. I'm just saying there are explanations that are more benign and boring than shaped charges and manufactured thermite.  My reputation and credibility are sullied enough that there's nothing to lose by telling you so do what you want with that information. I'm just here for the news.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 3:34pm

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    Building 7

    As far as building 7 goes, I was pretty sure it was severely damaged from the collapse of the two big towers and was torn down as a result, not that it was destroyed that day.

    Building 7 was not severely damaged from the collapse of the towers.  There was a minor fire in Building 7 that was burning itself out.  And zero question it came down within several hours of the towers falling because the BBC reported it that afternoon.  All while the building was clearly still standing at that moment behind the BBC anchor.  Why was BBC reporting that it had come down when it hadn't happened yet?  Pictures available of its collapse show picture perfect controlled demolition - freefall speed (this can be very accurately calculated because it was filmed and we know how tall the building was) and perfectly symmetrical.  Only possible if it was expertly wired for demo in advance.

    Building 7 is the gateway into the 911 rabbit hole for many.  Excellent documentaries about it.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 3:42pm

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    Don’tknow’s emotions are disabling his thinking. That’s understandable but inexcusable.

    Dontknow wrote,

    As far as building 7 goes, I was pretty sure it was severely damaged from the collapse of the two big towers and was torn down as a result, not that it was destroyed that day.

    Gee, that expresses a mind boggling level of NOT KNOWING ANYTHING! Whatever the mechanism, WTC7 collapsed on 9.11.01. And when he says “torn down” (NOT on 9-11, but some future day, I guess?) implies that people tore it down. Amazing! What people? What day? And how do you explain the date and time-stamped video from 9.11.01 showing WTC7 collapsing? And what about all the witnesses who were there (thousands of them) who said it came down on 9.11.01?

    This conversation is a waste of time with someone so uninformed. Besides it’s all been argued before based on the facts. No need to go over it again for unfacts.

    But this conversation should be instructive for all those optimists here who are SURE the truth about Covid and the vaccines will eventually come out. My eyes tell me the truth doesn’t ALWAYS come out, even in big conspiracies (if you mean the truth is accepted by the majority not just a small number of contrarians). The 9.11 truth is “out” but the majority doesn’t see it or accept it, so it’s not really “out.”

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 3:57pm

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    davefairtex

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    building 7

    As far as building 7 goes, I was pretty sure it was severely damaged from the collapse of the two big towers and was torn down as a result, not that it was destroyed that day.

    Yeah.  Not what happened.  Building 7 fell on 9/11, in its own footprint, as a result of what looked like an office fire.

    Here's a fun video of some Fox News folks who "got word" that Building 7 fell - about a minute before it fell.  You can see it falling in its own footprint, albeit from a distance.




    The 9/11 winners: the national security state that got all sorts of new powers to spy on everyone, everywhere.

    "No Privacy For You!"

    I'm not as upset by 9/11 as Jim & the others, but it appears as though events during this "national security event" were just as contrived as they have been during this recent pandemic.

    "No Treatments For You!"

    Just that 9/11 was only US.  Pandemic was global.  Isn't that interesting?

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 3:57pm

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    Dontknownothin said:

    Elevator overhauls happen roughly every 30 years in commercial buildings and one built in the 1970's would have needed one desperately by 2001 so this is more coincidence than conspiracy to me. I'm sure Otis or Thyssen Krupp or whoevers' techs who were there inspecting the shaft would have said something about explosive charges set inside the shaft. For ammonium nitrate, you need a LOT of it to create the explosive force necessary to breach the three+ foot thick core concrete. For C4 you need a LOT of it in a sheering charge to serve that purpose. You'd need a LOT of dynamite, or a LOT of PETN or a LOT of TNT. It would be pretty tough to sneak that stuff into an elevator shaft. Besides that, explosive shock waves take the path of least resistance and there would have been a noticeable mushroom cloud above the building as a result of such a charge as the shockwave travelled up the elevator shaft and blew out the shaft pressurization fans or vents. Or you would have seen it blow out windows in a full 360 degrees at the floors nearest the base of the elevator shaft. Or probably both.

    Look, I don't care what you all convince yourselves of about 9/11. I'm sure the CIA had a hand in recruiting, training, and unleashing the attackers. I just don't think the conspiracy about explosives has any merit.

    But I waver between believing the government is an incompetent farce and a malevolent villain so all motive is likely, even the false bravado of claiming awareness of the attack and doing nothing to stop it. Better to look nefarious than incompetent, and better to be incompetent than impotent.

    But I don't disagree that it looked like a false flag.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 4:10pm

    Dontknownothin

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    Dontknownothin said:

    My emotions are completely in check, I really don't have a dog in this fight. If you're reading that into my comments its only through your own lens.

    DF kat43 et al,

    Facts are what they are, if it came down on 9/11 that's what happened. The seismic damage and a structure fire in that building so close to a recovery effort of the twin towers would have made it a hazard so yes they probably tore it down, explosives are a legitimate and quick way to do that.

     

    I think you all take a half step back though. I posited a theory and the emotional response from the herd is getting a bit close to a belief system. I'm just offering some industry insider knowledge to give you different perspective on the explanation. If you can disprove that, great, but I'm not attacking you or giving the government a pass on any of what happened as a result, but I can't do anything about it. Just like today, with covid.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 4:18pm

    Dontknownothin

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    @Steven Kelso

    That is compelling motive for sure. If you find the thermite piece I'd love to see it.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 4:23pm

    davefairtex

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    official story on building 7

    DKN-

    Lots of people here have done "COVID-level-intensity" research into 9/11.  They get emotional about it.  Not me.  I just saw the puzzle of building 7, which made no sense.

    Here's the official narrative.  Doug likes to quote it.  That's how I know it is the official narrative.

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/design/a3524/4278874/
    The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) has released its long-awaited report on the collapse of World Trade 7 following the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. "Our take-home message today is that the reason for the collapse of World Trade Center 7 is no longer a mystery," NIST lead investigator Shyam Sunder told journalists at this morning's press conference in Gaithersburg, Md. "WTC 7 collapsed because of fires fueled by office furnishings. It did not collapse from explosives or from diesel fuel fires."

    Notice that - according to the official narrative - building 7 wasn't "taken down" by anyone.  It fell on its own.  Burning paper & desks are what took down the skyscraper - on the day of the attack.  In its own footprint.   How many cases of "office fire takes down skyscraper" have you heard of?

    But boy did the national security state get new powers.  And bigger budgets for everyone!  Woohoo!

    "Two planes, but three buildings."

    "Office fires can take down skyscrapers!"  (n=1)

    [edit] In a very real sense, 9/11 was the event that made it very easy for many at this site to suspect - early on - that "something was wrong" with the official narrative on COVID19.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 5:05pm

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    David Henry

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    actionable vs. unactionable information

    The truth about what happened on 9/11 is basically unactionable info to me; there are so many red flags suggesting the official narrative is not correct. But I can't do anything about that now and it wouldn't probably help me that much even if I knew the entire truth of that event. So I just don't focus on it. For better or worse.

    Covid and vaccines are still an ongoing issue; and I think there's even a chance that a more truthful understanding of all of this (ie Covid was a lab leak from GoF research; the vaccines have massive injury rates in the short term; and we don't know their long term effects but it pays to be concerned there too) may gain mainstream traction. CM's work has been a beacon, and RFK's book being #2 on Amazon gives one hope. The overwhelming number of vaccine injuries gives hope that people will believe what they're seeing rather than what they're being told. It's still an ongoing struggle, so new information, especially about vaccine injuries as we face pressure for boosters from now, is simply more actionable in my opinion.

     

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 5:11pm

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    9/11 is past, but the Covid deception is happening now, in REAL TIME.

    If you can disprove that, great, but I'm not attacking you or giving the government a pass on any of what happened as a result, but I can't do anything about it. Just like today, with covid.

    I can and will work to disprove those who would try to explain away 9/11 as some benign thing...  and it's very relevant now because we are living through a situation that, in terms of narrative control, and premeditation, has many parallels.

    Waking up my neighbors now about 9/11 is of little value... but waking them up to the possible damage they will be doing to their little kids by getting the mRNA "vaccinated"... now that's a different story.  I can, we all can, play a role in ending this nightmare.

    9/11 was a contrived narrative, in many ways parallel to Covid-19.  prior to 9/11, PNAC stated the need for a "new Pearl Harbor"

    https://bedrosian.usc.edu/9-11-truth/

    Arguing for a transformation of the American military to enable this domination and the extension of American hegemony into the 21st century, the PNAC report also recognized that such a transformation “is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.

    Does history rhyme?  You bet.  In 2015, Peter Daszack stated, "Until an infectious disease crisis is very real, present, and at an emergency threshold, it is often ignored.  To sustain the funding base beyond the crisis, we need to increase public understanding of the need for MCM's such as a pan-influenza or pan-coronavirus vaccine.  A key driver is the media, and the economics follow the hype... "

    This background is discussed at length in the Dr. David Martin video Gregory linked to yesterday;




     

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 5:20pm

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    nordicjack

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    We are in a true matrix reality

    I have worked for the federal government in the past.  IN a position where i had great understanding of the workings , especially withing the intel side.     I am never going to be certain of what happened with the world trade centers.   But I can assure 1000000000% personally, from what I know to be fact and truth, the narrative and script given to the public is not even close to the truth.    The only other thing I can say is that there way more that our government knows about everything , that would shockingly surprise the masses.    And finally to that end, if the people where ever to learn what the government knows and how our lives are managed and manipulated by lies, the people would hang every single person in the US federal government and rightfully so.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 5:22pm

    Dontknownothin

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    @JimH

    World Trade Center’s Infamous 91st-Floor Israeli ‘Art Student’ Project

    So this is an interesting twist I hadn't seen. Though I'm not sure it tells us anything more than they built a platform to give the pilots a visual indicator of where to aim the plane.

    The details there were too thin to say it was full of explosives though. And as art students renting a floor, they would not have had a ceiling grid to begin with. A leased space usually gets gutted once a tenant moves out and the next one does a TI to lay it out to their specs, that usually includes ceiling grid, so the details about that aren't compelling from where I sit.

    But what is in those boxes would be interesting. It certainly would be a convenient cover to have a plane take credit for a bomb blast, but the hole doesn't fit the shape they are suggesting explosives caused. The blast would be outward not folded inward as the images show. Also the windows around it aren't broken or spiderwebbed like an explosive went from a confined space to the exterior, it looks like a plane hit the building from the outside.

    But this story is suggesting Saudi Arabia collaborated with Mossad in retaliation for an action the US took to arrest spies that then led us to war in Afghanistan and later Iraq to get what? And to achieve what? Thats sort of circumnavigating the source of the problem. Its an intricate web to weave. It looks more like it was intended to launch a ground invasion from two fronts on Iran rather than anything either Iraq or Afghanistan had, which would itself resolve the issues Isreal has with Iran. That makes the US a patsy, not a co-conspirator.

    But building access is not likely, floor wide access is. Even electrical rooms on the 91st floor. But no property manager would be dumb enough to give a great grand master key to the building to some temporary tenants who aren't even doing a TI or leasing the space for more than an "art project". This story doesn't quite add up the way they're selling it.

    But it does look like they are the ground crew that guided the plane in to the right spot.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 5:30pm

    Dontknownothin

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    Dontknownothin said:

    Well if that's their official narrative, that's fucking stupid. Mine is way better of an excuse and could have been given to them by any firefighter in the area or anywhere else. Again, I waiver between thinking the government is a nefarious evil, and an incompetent doofus, and comments like that make me think its the latter.

    Edit: tho nordicjacks point, it seems like the government lying is more of a kneejerk reaction than a coverup. The plebes can't handle the truth, or the government is so large and secretive that no part can ever really know if they have all the facts or not. Its more like they lie to coverup that they don't know.

    Edit 2: they lie to give you confidence that they are evil, not incompetent or impotent. They have to do SOMETHING, but they only manage to do it poorly, so they'd rather you believe they do it intentionally out of mallice because the truth is much more embarassing. This really just looks like an embarassing amount of incompetence masquerading as confidence. Even Covid. I think they just don't know what the hell they're doing or why and they need us dumb or afraid so they can keep doing it. I think they're too scared that the rest of the world might catch on to the fact that our government is utterly and completely incompetent and that truth escaping would simply embolden other governments to take advantage. And I think every government is that way.

    Thanks folks, I don't think I'm worried anymore. I'm pretty sure we are being led by a bunch of ham fisted dimwits that will cry when you call them out or embarass them.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 5:45pm

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    Steven Kelso

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    How Deep Have You Folks Gone? Subterranean?

    Because nobody talks about WTC6.
    Apparently, it's farther outside the Overton Window than WTC7.
    That hole goes pretty deep.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 6:39pm

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    Thetallestmanonearth

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    Back to Phil's piece

    I thought this was so good, I considered writing a side chain fan-fiction piece, but I don't have the talent or the time and I don't want to distract from where you're going with this.  I think the distopia you outline is the direction the world is traveling in, but I see a lot of cross traffic ahead and hope the inertia gets redirected soon.

    The Orwellian undertone of self-censorship rings loud in my ears.  I took myself off facebook in 2016 when I realized screaming at a hurricane does nothing for the storm and less than nothing for me.  I have built my life around the pursuit of freedom, but in service of that goal, I censor myself every day.  The techno-solcialist distopia you sketched calls for overt self censorship with tight and obvious feedback loops.  Our current version of capitalism achieves the same goal, but I'm not sure most of us fish recognize the water we swim in. I didn't until reading your piece this morning and now my mind is trying to square the circle.

    I have a deep concern for our environment and in my heart want to dedicate my life to preserving and restoring it.  I enjoy nature and working with the land. I've made several unsuccessful attempts to align my income with those goals but have learned that, frankly, capitalism doesn't generally reward those behaviors.  No one had to ding my social credit score, but I eventually fell in line.  I started a chemical distribution company and have been greatly rewarded selling precursors to toxins that will eventually end up on farmers fields and in ground water through industrial processes.  I do all this as I drink tap water treated with all manner of hazardous chemicals.  I occasionally drive through McDonalds in my SUV when my kids demand a happy meal and I'm too tired to cook. One or two nights a month I drink than is probably healthy to take the edge off of the cognitive dissonance required to balance a modern life with a longing for a better world.  I as a human am striving and longing to do better, but I am a part of industrial capitalism. Without it, I die. Without me, it continues.

    I guess my point is that although your picture of 2031 is dire: where people learn to love their captors, take their medicine and be happy for every boost in their social credit score....it's not entirely unlike the world of the last 50 years.  We just haven't always seen it clearly.  It's hard for a fish to swim out of it's aquarium.

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  • Tue, Nov 30, 2021 - 9:11pm

    davefairtex

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    actionable

    DH-

    Yes I totally get what you are saying.  I agree too - we need to keep our eye on the COVID19 ball which is a constant 9/11 operation, this time on the entire world.

    I was just relating a bit of Ancient PP History to the newer members in an attempt to bridge the gap between the new folks, and the old cranks who have seen this game before.  They can get triggered sometimes though.  Its like someone comes here and says, "well gosh, Fauci told me the vaccines are safe and effective.  That's why I'm getting a booster!"  My buttons have been known to be pushed in that way, every now and then.  🙂

    DKN-

    Well if that's their official narrative, that's fucking stupid. Mine is way better of an excuse and could have been given to them by any firefighter in the area or anywhere else. Again, I waiver between thinking the government is a nefarious evil, and an incompetent doofus, and comments like that make me think its the latter.

    Yes.  That's their official narrative.   I thought it was nutty too.  I mean, who believes such things?  Office fires taking down skyscrapers?  But they said it with such a straight face.  NIST.  Popular mechanics.

    I think they're too scared that the rest of the world might catch on to the fact that our government is utterly and completely incompetent and that truth escaping would simply embolden other governments to take advantage. And I think every government is that way.

    Thanks folks, I don't think I'm worried anymore. I'm pretty sure we are being led by a bunch of ham fisted dimwits that will cry when you call them out or embarass them.

    Glad I could help.  🙂

    Still.  "No Treatments For You" has managed to kill off a bunch of people.  So incompetent, or malicious - a lot of people have died unnecessarily.  And they are doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down.

    And the 9/11 thing gave the government a whole lot more power.  And vastly larger budgets.

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  • Wed, Dec 01, 2021 - 8:33am

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    LBL said:

    I could post more information about 9-11.

    But more information won't help you, because of your timidity, AKA Cowardice.

    3 members of the team that did 9-11 appeared on television for an interview, admitted their prior knowledge and their assigned tasks, and were neither indicted nor sub-poena'd.

    The same general group of Criminals Murdered & Robbed Americans in 2000/2001 ... then Robbed Americans again in 2008/9 ... then Murdered & Robbed Americans again in 2020/2021.

    My guess is, they won't wait 12 years to Pillage America AGAIN.

    If someone held a gun to your head, you could probably start naming names.

    But you're afraid to do that, which is actually part of the signature of the Crimes you are talking around the edges of.

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  • Thu, Dec 02, 2021 - 2:44pm

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    What is this?

    I'm sorry to say it, but this is the worst thing I have ever read on PP

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  • Thu, Dec 02, 2021 - 3:17pm

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    wotthecurtains

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    I thought it was spectacular.

    A vivid glimpse into a very possible (maybe likely) future written in a format that reads like a love letter to all the dystopian novels we failed to take seriously.

     

    PS:  Part 2 is even better

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  • Fri, Dec 03, 2021 - 8:38am

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    Merkava18 said:

    Really? That's the best post you can come up with after that story? That's life under Hamas and the PA. Unelected thughs stealing everything they can from donors private or public. Billions. Last words Arafat heard? Yasser, what's the password?"

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  • Fri, Dec 03, 2021 - 10:35am

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    debu

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    Merkava(!!??)18

    Interesting choice of screen of name Merkava18.  Any particular point in naming yourself after an Israeli tank?

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