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At Peak Prosperity we will interview anybody at any time about anything as long as we believe we have something we can learn from them.  Today we are talking with Robert F Kennedy Jr about money, power, and influence.  

These forces are driving horrible medical policy and worse outcomes.  If we want a better future, we’re going to have to confront the truth about our current circumstances; something RFK Jr has done selflessly and fearlessly year after year.

While many people have probably been told (and many will believe) that RFK Jr is “antivaxx” (a modern pejorative), most here at Peak Prosperity won’t be surprised to learn that he’s been the subject of an intense campaign against him by the same forces that brought us all the “NO TREATMENTS FOR YOU!” medical nihilism.

We know we’re taking a risk by running an interview with RFK Jr simply because of how relentlessly he’s been attacked. As a result, many people have quite strong opinions about him despite having never heard him speak nor investigated any of this claims or underlying data.  

So it’s time to peel back the covers and find out the truth beneath the fiction.  Let’s begin with this interview and then bring the data, and then decide for ourselves what the truth is and where it lies.  The future belongs to those who can bring an open mind and a clear heart.  Let’s dive in…

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Chris Martenson:             Welcome, everyone, to this Peak Prosperity Podcast. I am your host Dr. Chris Martenson; and today, we are talking with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. We are honored to have him on our program today; we look forward to a very lively discussion about one of the most contentious topics out there, vaccines, and Anthony Fauci’s role in all of this.

Now, listen, this is a topic that really shouldn't be contentious at all, right? Vaccines are a matter of science and therefore, we should be able to add up the risks and the benefits, and come out with a clear answer as to their benefits and costs. But as we now know--or which, maybe, you're about to learn--the entire field of study is shot through with the same sorts of misinformation and disinformation that infected the tobacco debate for so many decades; in other words, there's good data, there's murky data, and there's entirely missing data; and, of course, fake data all swirled together with billions of advertising dollars and active campaigns to demonize anybody who dares to question the corporate and state narratives. Those are most easily characterized as, "Vaccines are always good."

Now, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., he has a BA from Harvard; he's attended the London School of Economics; a JD from the University Of Virginia; and an LLM, which is an advanced law degree, from Pace University. He's the third of 11 children of Senator and Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy and Ethel Kennedy, the nephew of Joseph, John, and Ted Kennedy. Mr. Kennedy, welcome so much to the program. It's great to have you here.

Robert Kennedy Jr:         Thank you for having me, Chris.

Chris Martenson:             Well, listen, let's just dive right in here today. Tell us how you get started working in vaccines?

Robert Kennedy Jr:         I got started--my profession is environmental law litigation, and I ran and helped found the biggest water protection group in the world, which is Waterkeeper; we have 350 Waterkeepers patrolling waterways; each one has a patrol boat and they have a full-time paid Waterkeeper, and so we patrol the waterways. In the early 2000s, I had about 40 lawsuits going against cement kilns and coal-burning power plants in North America and the province of Canada and the United States, and we were suing--many people were selling coal plants at that time, but we were suing them because of mercury emissions. In 2003, the FDA did a study that showed that every freshwater fish in America now had dangerous levels of mercury in its flesh and we were living kind of in a science fiction nightmare in our country, where my children and the children of virtually every other American could now no longer engage in the seminal primal activity of American youth, which is to go fishing with their father mother in the local fishing hole--and come home and eat the fish.

We were litigating against someone during that period, and I was speaking around the country, and increasingly, these women started showing up at my speeches, occupying the front rows and afterwards, it turned out they were the mothers of intellectually-disabled children. And they would come up to me afterward and say to me, kind of in a vaguely, scolding respectful way, "If you're really concerned about mercury exposures to children, you need to look at vaccines." And it was an area that I did not want to get into; I had to be dragged kicking and screaming. But a woman named--a psychologist named Sarah Bridges--came to my home in Massachusetts on the Cape in the summer of 2005; she had a son who had was perfectly healthy and who had gotten severe autism from a mercury vaccine and he got a $20 million dollar judgment from the vaccine court acknowledging that his injury was from the vaccine. And she didn't want it happening to other children; she came to my house with a big pile of scientific studies about 18 inches deep, and she said--she put them on my front porch and she said, "I’m not leaving here until you read these"

I’m very accustomed to reading the science, I’m an environmental litigator; I’ve brought hundreds and hundreds of cases, almost all of them have involved some kind of scientific controversy, and so I know how to read science, I know how to read it critically. And I began going through these documents and reading the abstracts, and I was just stuck, before I was even three or four inches down, by the huge delta between what the public health agencies were telling us about vaccine safety and what the actual peer-reviewed science was saying. And then I did what I normally do which is to start calling the regulators, people like Anthony Fauci--I knew all these people because my family was part of the public health infrastructure in our country for 50 or 60 years; my uncle was the Chair of the Senate Health Committee, and the big institutions at NIH are named for my family, the Kennedy Krieger Institute, the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute; my family started the Special Olympics. I grew up in this space.

It was something I didn't want to do, but I was able to call these people and to ask them about what I was seeing in the science, and it quickly became clear to me that the primary regulators in our country, people like Anthony Fauci, and Francis Collins,  Kathleen McCormick from Iowa, from the Institute of Medicine; Marie McCormick, Kathleen Stratton from the National Academy of Sciences, the people who were the primary regulator for vaccines--and Paul Offit--often either had not read or were not conversant with the science and they were just repeating these orthodoxies, or they knew about the science and they were lying in some cases--and particularly with Paul Offit, I caught him in just a glaring lie and at that point I was like, "Wow, this is really horrible because these kids are getting destroyed."

And that kind of sucked me into the vortex--and somebody asked me yesterday, somebody, I was in Inside Edition--I don't know if they even put the clip on Inside Edition--they didn't put this one on, but the reporter said to me, "Have you made a lot of profits from your vaccine advocacy?" And I said, "I’ve made the opposite of profits from my vaccine advocacy, is it destroyed my career, it's cost me probably 80 percent of my income, and a lot of friendships, a lot of political contacts and allies all over the world that are gone--a lifetime of investment that I’ve lost because of it." But as you know, once you start looking at the science, once you start seeing these children and understanding what's really happening, you don't really have a choice.

Chris Martenson:             No, and I mean... what do I say? Thank you for your service. I know the cost has been high. I even saw in 2018... I guess it was--let me look up--there was an article written by relatives of yours titled, "RFK Jr. Is Our Brother and Uncle. He's Tragically Wrong About Vaccines." I mean this has hit you very close to home, your advocacy.

Robert Kennedy Jr:         Yeah.

Chris Martenson:             And so, when you say you caught this gentleman in a big lie and this woman came to you and she got a $20 million judgment out of the vaccine injury pool, what was the lie and how does somebody win a judgment if there isn't actual evidence?

Robert Kennedy Jr:         With what?

Chris Martenson:             How would somebody even win a judgment if there isn't actual evidence?

Robert Kennedy Jr:         There's evidence in the vaccine court, it's just very limited; you can't do the discovery or otherwise, they'd be dead.

Chris Martenson:             You can't do discovery?

Robert Kennedy Jr:         No, there's no discovery in the vaccine; the real defendants, which the vaccine companies are not even part of the proceedings, you can't subpoena them, you can't do the discovery; you just basically have to go in and show that--I mean the way people went in the vaccine court is they have children, they have photographs, they have videos of their kids the day before they got the vaccine blowing out candles on birthday cakes, playing with other children, using language in some cases, they have hundreds and hundreds of words. And then, three months after the vaccine, usually, it takes half of the vaccine that usually, characteristically, they would get a spike of fever that night, would have seizures; and then over the next three months, they lose their brain function, they lose their capacity to offer social interaction; they begin engaging in stereotypical behavior like stimming, head-banging, screaming, toe-walking, all of those kind of things; and they can't look you in the eye anymore, and they lose all their language and they lose toilet training, et cetera.

And this is, like I say, it's characteristic because you hear it from--I’ve literally heard it without hyperbole from thousands of mothers, that exact same sequence. And so, that's what Sarah Bridges was able to go into the vaccine court with videos of her child before and after, and also very good medical records that showed the seizures and showed the cascade of sequelae that occurred immediately after the vaccine--and that's what you have to do. A lot of the vaccine injuries have these long incubation periods, long diagnostic horizon, food allergies, for example, are mostly virtually certainly coming from the vaccines; this wave tsunami of food allergies after 1989--1989 was the change over here, that's when it started to hit. Before that, kids are pretty safe if grew up prior to 1989--you didn't see diabetes, you didn't see rheumatoid arthritis, you didn't see food allergies, you didn't see seizures and epilepsy, Tourette Syndrome nobody ever heard of it--TICS, narcolepsy, all of the lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, all of that stuff began and autism went from 1 in 10,000 in my generation--which it still is--I’ve literally never met--I grew up on a spear tip of people with intellectual disabilities and I have never met anybody my age with full-blown autism, it essentially does not exist--

In my kids’ generation, it's 1 in 22 boys. The most recent CDC data from New Jersey, which is always the place where they do the--the first set of data comes from new jersey and then they move out to the other states--the most recent data from New Jersey now shows one in 12 boys--this is a crisis that dwarfs COVID-19. COVID-19 killed people when they were 84 years old; killed people with extensive comorbidities; but autism is affecting the young and all these other diseases which went from--when Tony Fauci came in in '68, 6 percent of American children had chronic disease; by 1986, by the time we passed the act, it was 11.8 percent; today, it's 54 percent. This makes COVID-19 look like a bump in the road; the catastrophe of chronic disease in our children is a much, much greater national crisis.

But, of course, Tony Fauci has played a key role in causing this crisis; it's his agency that is creating these products and that is making sure that the science is contaminated, and anybody who tries to do this science is punished. Here's what people don't understand and I want to say this, Chris: my book on Tony Fauci comes out in August, it's called The Real Tony Fauci, and I would urge your followers and the people who are listening to this to go out and buy it. 100 percent of my profits go back to Children's Health Defense, and we need to get 10 or 20,000 people buying this book. I think we're up over 10,000 today because then the New York Times has to put it on the bestseller list; Amazon has to put it on, which is going to really grudge them. But if you want to do something for the movement--something small, but something important--go on to Amazon now and buy that book, it's called The Real Tony Fauci.

And I go in and do a deep dive on Tony Fauci and Bill Gates: it's called The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health, and I do a deep dive on his life, his career; and how these men, really working with the intelligence agencies, orchestrated this lockstep imposition of totalitarianism on not only in this country, but all across the world, all simultaneously and people like you and me look at what's happened and said, "How did they do this all at once and how did they all know what to do?" And it was very, very heavily orchestrated and I lay out exactly how they planned it.

And one of the things they did--I mean the key thing they did was people know about this simulation, Event 201, that seemed--it was Gates's simulation--that seemed to perfectly predict everything that was going to happen. Well, they started doing those simulations in the year 2000 before the anthrax attacks; three months before the anthrax attacks, they did one that predicted the anthrax attack and it turns out the anthrax attacks, which they blamed on Saddam Hussein, and we used that as justification to invade Iraq which had nothing to do with 9/11, had nothing to do with anthrax attacks, but they wanted to invade Iraq.

And it turns out, ultimately, the FBI figured out that that came from--that that anthrax did not come from Saddam Hussein, it came from a US Army lab, one of three labs; and the most likely lab, the FBI figured out, was a lab that was connected to both Tony Fauci and Robert Kadlec; it was the _____ [00:17:12] lab and it was connected to a vaccine company called BioPort owned by a family called the El-Hibri; it's now called Emergent, and it was the biggest producer of vaccines during COVID. So, this family, the El-Hibris, who were very, very closely connected with Anthony Fauci, he was their patron and Robert Kadlec was their patron, and they had deep connections to the Joint Chief and to the CIA, and they are the most--they were on the FBI suspect at that time. The crime was never solved; the FBI suddenly and mysteriously dropped the investigation.

What they did was they started doing these simulations, and the simulations would simulate a pandemic, but they didn't do the things you would want them to do in a pandemic, like how do you fix the VAERS system, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, so that we know that when we have a hastily-created vaccine, we can get signals to see if it's injuring people, we can compare all the different vaccines to see which one of them has the worst safety signals for the different age groups, and that's what they ought to be doing; they didn't talk about how do you isolate the sick, which is the obvious--let's have isolation hospitals. So, when an older person gets sick, you put them in that hospital, you don't put them back in the nursing home where they're going to infect and kill everybody in there.

They didn't talk about how do you create a communications infrastructure between frontline doctors all over the world, so that when they're developing all these different treatments and therapies, when they figure out, "Well, the respirators are actually killing people," and early treatment with either mectin, or steroids, or all the other things that you talk about is actually working really well, "Prophylactically, these are working..." None of that. They didn't talk about how you strengthen people's immune systems or how we stockpile vitamin D; they didn't talk about any of the things that you would want them to be planning.

Bill Gates and Fauci are constantly talking about how they saw this coming and they warned the world. Really? If you saw it coming, why didn't you prepare us for it? Why didn't you do the things? The only thing that they modeled--and that we've now been able to dig up--about 20 of these simulations, and everyone does the same thing: they passed the message that you need a militarized response to pandemic, it's the only response that works; it's you have to impose censorship, you have to stop people from talking, you have to silence the public; you have to do social distancing which is a way of fragmenting societies and destroying unit cohesion, of destroying morality, you have to shut down businesses to completely disable society; you have to put everybody under house arrest and induce this kind of psychological state, which the intelligence agencies called Stockholm Syndrome, where the captive people become grateful to their captors, where they empathize and identify with them, and where they reach the understanding that the only way out of it and back to safety--the only way to survive--is through absolute obedience to their captors.

And all of these were psychological warfare techniques that were being drilled again, and again, and again. There's a very famous experiment that was apparently financed by the CIA back in the '60sm, it was called the Milgram Experiment. There was a Yale sociologist called Stanley Milgram and he got a lot of volunteers from all walks of life--some were college professors, construction workers, they deliberately look for every tier of society. And he would put them in a room with a man with a white lab coat on who seemed like he was in a position of authority, and he would instruct the volunteer to electrocute an actor who was out of sight in the next room; and they were told that if they turn that dial up to the red zone, 450 V, they might kill him and they would give them escalating shocks. And to many of these people, it was against all of their consciences, some of them would be crying and they'd be begging not to have to do the electrician; but when the doctor ordered them, "You have to do it," they turned it up and 67 percent of them turned it up into the death zone.

And what Milgram concluded was that authority trumps conscience; and you can get 67 percent of the American people to do anything you want; if you dress somebody in a white lab coat, call them a doctor, and order them to do it, they will violate their conscience. And what they drilled was essentially a coup d’état against American democracy. None of these simulations talk about how do you preserve the constitution during a pandemic--and I’ll point out: there is no pandemic exception to the US constitution, and it's not because the framers did not know about pandemics because there was a pandemic during the Revolutionary War that sidelined the Army of New York New England--the Patriot Army, George Washington’s army for three months. They knew that pandemics could be dangerous to a society but they did not put an exemption into the constitution.

The people who were running these exercises, and they ended up using Bill Gates and Fauci as front men, but it was really the intelligence agencies, it was the CIA; the main people were involved are people who were CIA people like Tara O'Toole, and James Woolsey, and Robert or Colonel Larson, and many, many others who I name in my book, who are all intelligence agency people, who would make these planning documents; and the documents that are all about how do you get people to go along with a coup d’état against the American constitution?

And what they did was very clever: each one of these simulations gets broader and broader; and so, they begin with just the US, and then the US and Canada, and England and all the European countries are doing it simultaneously--and a lot of them were top secret, so nobody even knew about these things. Some of them involved tens of thousands of people, so they would drill all the health officials and all the states attended these at various times--firefighters, police, law enforcement, the FBI, Homeland Security--we're all involved in drilling these. And basically, once you tell people, "Here's what you do in a pandemic. We're paying you to protect us: here's the way to protect us during a pandemic. You impose censorship." And all of these people who know better, they know you're not supposed to censor in a democracy, they start doing it and they all think it's okay because they've drilled it and doing natural and participating in that drill with all of your friends and all of your colleagues doing it, it's a sign-off, it's a training exercise where they get everybody who does it, you are to sign off on the destruction of the United States constitution, and they've already practiced, and practiced, and practiced it ten times. And now, they're being told, "Here's what you do for real; this is the only way to do it," so that it was basically a way of teaching, of training the American public or key figures in our political structure, "Here's the only way to handle a pandemic: you abolish the constitution."

And what they do, they got rid of freedom of speech; and they went after freedom of religion, they shut down every church in our country for a year and kept the liquor stores open as essential businesses--all liquor stores are not in the constitution, the churches are. They got rid of jury trials, the 6th and 7th Amendments. They said if somebody who says they're part of a countermeasure hurts you if they're negligent, if they're reckless, if they give you poison--if they kill you or give you permanent neurological injury, there's nothing you can do about it, you cannot sue them; you're stuck on your own, you're self-insured.

Then they got rid of property rights it's part of the constitution; they shut down every business with no compensation, no due process. It's the takings, and yet, they were uncompensated.

So, one by one, they went through every amendment to the Bill of Rights, and they abolished them all--systematically. And they installed this kind of a government, a medical [fitocracy], a government by diktat where there's no public hearings. Usually, if you're going to have a rule like, "Everybody wears masks, everybody to social distance, everybody lock down," you have a proposed rule that's published, you have a notice and comment period where all the public can comment, make criticisms, try to make recommend changes, and then you go 90 or 60 days of that, and then you have public hearings, and you have to have an environmental impact statement that says, "Here's all the science that justifies this law. Here's what we're relying on; here's why our narrowly-tailoring at some point, it's only going to affect the people it needs to affect." And then you have a public hearing where they bring in their scientists and we get to bring our scientists, and they cross-examine ours and we cross-examine theirs; and then you have a judgment that cannot be arbitrary and capricious, it has to be rationally based on the evidence.

None of that happened. It was just a guy stood up there--Tony Fauci, who never treated a COVID patient, and he says, "Now, do what I say." And by the way, constantly changing his mind; never citing any science. "The masks don't work? Put one on, anyway." He doesn't tell us, "Why did the science change, why did your mind change?" "Never mind. Now strap on two of them." And then social distancing. If you look at these CIA manuals, that's how they destroy--all of these techniques or the techniques that the CIA uses to shatter indigenous societies, to destroy economies, demoralize people, separate them destroy any kind of organized response, and then to impose a centralized control that essentially is a colonial structure.

And if you watch, they've been planning this for 20 years and it goes back to really when I was a little boy--I was seven years old. I had come back from the Democratic Convention and been campaigning all summer with all of my brothers and sisters from my uncle, and he won the election, and Eisenhower stepped down, and on my birthday, January 17th 1961, Eisenhower gave probably the most important speech in the United States' history--and definitely the most important speech in his lifetime, which was the speech where he said America will never be destroyed by a foreign enemy, our democratic institutions will be liquidated by malefactors of great wealth and the military-industrial complex, because we've given too much power to this; if we let them keep going, they're going to destroy our democracy.

My uncle spent three years fighting his own brass, all the war hawks who surrounded him, refusing to put combat troops into Vietnam; they wanted a quarter million, he put 16,000 advisors and none of them with authority to fight, and he refused to do it, he refused to put them in Laos. Eventually, he was killed and Johnson made the Vietnam War and put in half a million people and it became a US war; and my father then ran in '68 against that war and he was killed. The military won--the military-industrial complex of contractors and all that.

And something happened in 1988, the Berlin Wall comes down, the Soviets folded in, and we're all told, "Now, you're going to get your peace dividend; now the billion-dollar stealth bomber that couldn't fly in the rain,all that money is going to go to schools, and to roads, and to hospitals, and healthcare, and to police protection and we are going to build a city on a hill," and America was supposed to be the shining Alabaster exemplar of what democracy can mean to the rest of the world. And there were people within the military-industrial complex who heard that and they said, "That money, those peace dividends coming from our pockets." And in 1993, we had the first World Trade Center attack, that's five years later, and all that money that was headed towards the peace dividend, the brakes were put on and it started going to fighting terrorism.

And then, in 2001, the World Trade Center--I don't think it's over--we became a national security state with those guys running it; and three weeks after that attack, on 10/4, October 4th, we had the anthrax attacks. If you think about terrorism, it was a perfect solution, kind of a very elegant solution for the military-industrial complex because it's a much more reliable enemy than the Soviets, because terrorism is not a nation that is going to give up, it's a tactic that is going to be there forever. So, Cheney called it The Long War, and said we're going to be fighting it in 50 nations around the world.

But it had one glaring defect, which is it didn't really kill that many people. Terrorism, since 9/11, has killed fewer Americans annually than lightning strikes; it's difficult to justify this huge diversion of so much of our gross natural product to such a meager, anemic threat. But they understood from the beginning on that germs are a much better threat, more credible threat than Islamic terrorists because a germ can get into everybody in America. Islamic terrorists can kill and destroy one building with an airliner, maybe 10 or 20; and a germ can get into everybody's home and kill every American. So, if you really want a wellspring of terror in order to justify the imposition of totalitarian controls and huge diversions to the security industry and the military industry, germs are it.

And it'll also justify--it's also the key to our foreign policy. Foreign policy, during World War II, we signed the Atlantic Charter; we made the allies and Britain reluctantly signed the Atlantic Charter, which told all those nations, "You've got to get out of your colonial possessions; you need to let people rule themselves." Churchill did not want to sign it; FDR made him do it. And so, after the war, the nationalist liberation movements and the Atlantic Charter forced Europe to leave behind its colonies which was the major source of their wealth.

But those colonies in Africa, Asia, and Latin America then became subject to the dissolved colonialism, which was mainly a US project. So, we had our CIA, our intelligence agencies in those countries helping out any dictator who proved his anti-communist bona fides by allowing US corporations to come in and strip the country of their natural resources. And so, we had, by the time of the Soviet Union collapsed, we had 655 bases around the world and most of these were developing world countries--any country we had a base, we had our multinational US corporations in there getting their oil, their coal, their minerals, their lumber, their agricultural produces.

And then the walls collapse and there's no longer a justification for us being in those countries; and beginning around 2003, President Bush and subsequently, President Obama declared that biosecurity would be the now the spear tip of American foreign policy; and of course, biosecurity is perfect because it weaponizes vaccines, it allows us to justify our presence--our kind of quasi-military presence--in all of these countries; money flows to the governments of those countries, et cetera, which, again, allows the pharmaceutical industry, which is now the booming industry to go in and do what they want: they dump their drugs; virtually all of their Phase 3 trials are now in Africa and Asia where they develop these new drugs by testing them on poor Africans, and then market them to the European and the US countries.

So, that basically is... these are the kind of structures, the architecture that I talk about in this book, and I show how Tony Fauci played a key role, and Bill Gates working together, in creating these infrastructures and getting control of the World Bank, the World Health Organization, the World Economic Forum, and getting basically bios from SEPI, from GAVI, from PATH, from all of these quasi-governmental agencies that Gates has created in order to legitimize his imperialism around the globe--his medical imperialism.

Chris Martenson:             What a fantastic summary you just gave. I have many questions. The first would be I’m curious if there are any laws in the United States against weakening, subverting, or otherwise undermining the nation and its prime laws? I thought for sure, there must be some laws.

Robert Kennedy Jr:         Yeah, I mean we have the US constitution and you're not allowed to undermine it. But that's the whole thing, the beauty of saying it's an emergency, it's very difficult to challenge any of this stuff with a legal case. I mean we're working on it, and there are ways to do it, and we are doing it. We are going to bring these cases--we're already bringing them, but there's not a... it's tricky.

Chris Martenson:             Robert, what if we found out the Russians were harming our children by the tens of thousands?

Robert Kennedy Jr:         Well, listen, I’ve dealt with a dilemma for years because US industry--the coal-burning power plants--have been poisoning Americans for decades in a way that if a foreign enemy did it to us, it would be an act of war--I mean poisoning every fish in America with mercury? If a foreign country did that to us, we would have boots on the ground and nukes in the air going after them. If it's a couple of coal robber barons, there's nothing you can do about it.

Chris Martenson:             Now, you mentioned at the beginning, your book actually has a very big subtitle and it's talking about actually a more global reach. So, I understand that the threats and assaults to the United States constitution, but my question is this: I was profoundly confused by--so, Taiwan had no problem confronting COVID, right? They rallied, they did smart things, they basically tamped it down--very smart people, a lot of PhDs over there. Then I watch this Mayor of Puerto Valles in Brazil; and he decides, "To heck with all that garbage; I’m going to give my people early access to Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine," and he has a death rate that just plummets. He gets re-elected with 98 percent of the vote. I thought one politician in some country in the West would have said, "That looks cool; maybe I should do that too." But I didn't see it: nobody from Finland stepped up, nobody from Poland, nobody from the United States; no governor stood up and said, "That looks cool."

This thing you talk about, how is it so powerful that every single politician basically ignored what I think would have been a winning platform?

Robert Kennedy Jr:         Because they have such a sophisticated architecture for controlling politicians; and I talked about some of this just now. There are many, many others: first of all, you have the entire press that's against you, that's funded by the pharmaceutical companies are now $9.4 billion annually in advertising--in direct-to-consumer advertising; you have the entire medical establishment that is controlled by Tony Fauci globally, about 300,000 people globally who are receiving NIH funding annually. So, what Tony Fauci does, he actually gives away 13 times what Bill Gates gives away to every year; he's turned his agency, which was supposed to tell us, "Here's where all these diseases, these chronic diseases are coming from; here's why autism has gone from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 22; here's why food allergies suddenly appeared; here's why all these autoimmune diseases suddenly appeared." We know it's an environmental toxin and our genes don't cause epidemics--they can provide a vulnerability, but you need an environmental toxin, and there's an unlimited number of things that came along in 1989 were ubiquitous--and in fact, there's a toxicologist called _____ [00:42:41] who made a sort of an exhaustive list of the things, that they could be glyphosate, pesticides, neonicotinoid pesticides, BFOA, flame retardants, ultrasound, cell phones, emails--I think there are 11 things on the list that came along in '89, that affected on people from Cubans in Miami, the Inuit in Homer, Alaska, and that impact--you also have to look at something that impacts boys disproportionately to girls because the boys particularly with a neurological injury, it's about a 4:1 rate and there's only a limited number of toxins--mainly metals--that do that. Mercury, particularly, does that, but also aluminum can do that as well.

So, this is what Fauci should be doing, but he will not allow anybody to do that science. He has 6.1 billion that he gets from us, the taxpayer, and he has another 1.6 billion that he gets from the military, and that's why he does all that gain-of-function study because he needs to be doing bio-weapon studies to keep the military pumping of this money into him that began right after the anthrax attacks; and he turned that agency, after the anthrax attacks, into a militarized bioweapons response, what they call --_____ [00:44:15] where they're developing--using gain-of-function studies to develop-- supposedly develop--vaccines, but they're actually developing bioweapons, and that's why the military continues to pour money into him.

So, what he does is he uses that money--here's what he does--and he's turned that agency into an incubator for the pharmaceutical industry--this is a very simple schematic of how it works. His laboratory it's filled with Petri dishes with all the viruses in them--the Coxsackie virus, Coronavirus, flu, et cetera. Tens of thousands of Petri dishes. He takes molecules of poisons--or existing drugs--and he drips them into that petri dish until he finds something that kills all the coronaviruses in that petri dish; and he'll take that poison, and he'll give it to rats. And if it doesn't kill the rats, but it does kill the coronavirus, now he's got a potential drug.

He then farms that out for Phase 1 trials, which is basically animal trials and very small human trials, to what they call PIs, principals investigators. Who are the PIs? These are the key people; these are the entire profession of virology; this is why none of the virologists in the world spoke up over an entire year; they all knew that Coronavirus was lab-generated--they knew it without any doubt--none of them talked about it. Why? Because they're all on Tony Fauci’s payroll. Here's what he does: and these are his PIs, his principal investigators: they are the deans of the medical schools, they're chairmen of the departments in the medical schools, the most powerful doctors in America; they're the ones who've done clinical trials for the pharmaceutical industry and for Tony Fauci.

He'll give that doctor for the Phase 1 trial, money to recruit a hundred patients; for every one of those patients, he gives the doctor between 15 and $20,000 each. The university takes skims half of that money off, so now, the university is also involved in this conflict. And then he goes to Phase 2--if it works on those people, it goes to Phase 2 trials. And now, they're getting thousands of patients in, and you're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars that are flowing from Fauci.

If that works, they go to Phase 3, and then at that point, they sell it to a pharma company--to Gilead, to Johnson & Johnson, to Mercks, to Glaxo. They come in and they do the Phase 3 trial with the PIs; so, the PI is out making a lot of money, plus the PI gets part of the patent. The university owns a share of the patent. Tony Fauci's agency can take a share of the patent and he can give patent shares to anybody he likes in his agency. With the Moderna vaccine, he gave those patent chairs to six of his deputies and buys their loyalty, so now, they get from Modern vaccine 150 grand a year each for the rest of their lives, and that's how he keeps everybody from talking.

So, the universities are now completely dependent on him--Harvard, Columbia, Berkeley, Baylor and all of these universities and their medical schools, they're getting hundreds of millions annually from NIH and Tony Fauci. Let's say there's a young doctor at that university who is naive, who just got his assistant professor posting there and he says, "You know what? I’ve noticed that we have these big databases from all the HMOs, they have the vaccine records for every child down to batch of every medical claim for those children; and you could do a cluster analysis and you could see whether the vaccine is causing diabetes, or arthritis, or autism. Weirdly, nobody’s ever done that study. But I’m going to do it, I’m going to be famous because this is very exciting."

As soon as he proposes, the Dean of that university is going to get a call from one of Fauci's deputies that says, "If you let this clown do this study, we are going to bankrupt you; you will never get another dime from NIH," and that's how he controls all the medicine--if 300,000 of these people around the world. And then they work in tandem with the Gates Foundation, which has given away 7 percent a year, it has to of $50 billion; and with the Wellcome Trust, which is the UK version of the Gates Foundation. And the head of the Wellcome Trust is Jamie Farrar, who's in all these Fauci emails. Jamie Farrar is probably--the Head of the Wellcome Trust is the Chair of MI6, so the Wellcome Trust is an intelligence agency asset.

And you can go online and you can find videos that the CIA makes to recruit biologist--biologists around the world who are going from country to country, they are a prime target for the CIA; and the CIA actually makes videos saying, "If you're a biologist and you're studying in other countries, we want you to work with us," and then they sign a secret contract and then the CIA owns them. So, the CIA has 4.8 million state secret contracts with American citizens who are now CIA assets who are never allowed to talk about it; if they talk about it, they face a 20-year sentence--if they even admit they signed that contract, their special secret courts, you're not allowed an attorney; they can strip you all your money and put you in jail for 20 years and nobody ever hears from you again.

And so, Jamie Farrar, his father was in the intelligence agencies, I think he was killed by--I may be mistaken, but I may be mistaken but I think he was killed by _____ [00:51:21]. But the head of Wellcome is in the intelligence agencies and Farrar is the guy who, in ... I think it was 2005, he's the one who invented the Bird Flu epidemic which never killed anybody, but a pandemic. The WHO declared it a pandemic; on his word, it killed one person, and the vaccine companies made $20 million--no, no, it was billions of dollars. So, it was Glaxo is the one that funded the Wellcome Trust, that's Glaxo money. And Glaxo is very tied in with the British government.

So, those are the characters: you have Bill Gates; you have Jamie Farrar who runs Wellcome; and then you have Fauci, and then you have Robert Kadlec who is kind of the--he's another Fauci, but he was running the COVID response for Trump, and he's the one who created all of these simulations, he was the author of virtually all of them. And so, that's how it happened, Chris, that's how they did it to us. And I go into much more detail--and I think, much more convincing detail--in my book.

But again, what I would ask your followers is do your Christmas shopping now, go out and buy this book. Again, I make no money on it; 100 percent of my profits goes to Children's Health Defense, so you can do something good for Children's Health Defense which funds our lawsuits against these guys, but you also can stick it to Amazon and stick it to the New York Times and the people who don't want to see this book succeed. So, go out, buy it, and do your part.

And Chris, thank you so much for having me.

Chris Martenson:             Well, thank you so much for all of that. And what you're describing--last question, is this just about money, is that what this is?

Robert Kennedy Jr:         Nothing's just about money; because people don't care--Bill Gates doesn't care about money. The people who accumulate money--but if you're accumulating money beyond the amount of food you can eat, the amount of sex you can have, the amount of shelter that you need, the nice places you can go, even spending the interest on his money as fast as he's going to, he could never, never spend all the money that he has. People accumulate money because they want power; they want power first over their own lives, they want to be able to control things that threaten them, that they eat, their pleasure, et cetera. But then they continue to accumulate money because they want more power, they want power over other human beings.

And there's nothing that gives you more power over other human beings, that justifies it, than medical imperialism. Because if you have a medical justification, you can go into people's most private contexts, you can force them to take medical interventions that they don't want, you can control them, you can tell them, "Don't leave your house; shut down your business; do what you're told, don't ask questions, don't talk or we're going to censor you. Put a mask on your face," there's no other thing that gives you more power than that kind of medical imperialism. There's nobody in history who's had the amount of power that Tony Fauci and Bill Gates have over humanity.

And so, I would say, no, people don't care about currency--money is just currency--what they care about is power to control other human beings.

Chris Martenson:             Well said. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., thank you for your time today. The book is The Real Anthony Fauci, coming out in August; we're going to pre-buy that, make sure we get that on the best-seller list. Thank you so much for your time today and most importantly, for your work and trying to make things better for all of us. Thank you, sir.

Robert Kennedy Jr:         Thank you, Chris.

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  • Thu, Sep 16, 2021 - 8:26pm

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    Arthur Robey

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    "Suddenly, Mysteriously"

    "Suddenly and mysteriously" are the words that we can concentrate on.

    If our mental models are good, then they are predictive. A poor model is one that has surprises. Therefore I put it to you that our mental models have serious fundamental flaws.

    The assumption that we make that only humans are involved is suspect. In my model Dr. David Jacobs aliens have both the the Means and the Motive to pull this off. My intuition supports my model. The main players in this fracas give me the creeps.

    Opponents of my model have to prove a negative. They have to argue that there is no Alien presence on the planet. Their other argument is an appeal to incredulity.

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  • Thu, Sep 16, 2021 - 8:40pm

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    Book on fauci

    I am in for purchasing the book , Is there anyway we can do it directly through peak prosperity?  I do not want to give dime of this to amazon.

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  • Thu, Sep 16, 2021 - 9:19pm

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    Wendell Berry

    ”When they want you
    to die for profit they will let you know.”

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  • Thu, Sep 16, 2021 - 9:23pm

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    A Patriot

    Mr. Kennedy is a true patriot.  Thank you for this interview.

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  • Thu, Sep 16, 2021 - 9:28pm

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    Further Evidence

    Thank you Chris for this superb interview. Given Covid I thought you might skirt the wider vaccine debate but I'm very pleased you haven't. It's only recently (ie the last few days) that I've completely flipped my opinion on them. Now very very wary. Something has to explain the skyrocketing cases of autoimmune and neurological diseases in children and the wider population - bad food and/or contaminated environment and/or vaccines. Take your pick but I now suspect the ever increasing number of vaccine shots are the front runner.

    Here is an interesting video with associated links to 3 studies. Wouldn't mind if you could cast your critical eye over them. Peak Prosperity is such an important drop in site for sanity. Just fantastic and thank you from NZ





    Hooker-Miller study: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1...

    Lyons-Weiler/Thomas study: https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/17/22/...

    Mawson study: http://archive.is/PwUrN

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  • Thu, Sep 16, 2021 - 9:45pm

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    Chanah

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    Loved it!

    Fantastic interview, Chris! Please get him back sometime, he's got some fascinating stories to tell.

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  • Thu, Sep 16, 2021 - 10:42pm

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    Slam Dunk Interview

    As a child of the Kennedy era, this was a great interview!  Mr. Kennedy has chosen a difficult road, but he was raised in family not afraid to challenge the status quo.  Thanks for that interview.

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  • Thu, Sep 16, 2021 - 10:53pm

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    nordicjack

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    correlation of autism and vaccines.

    First, i am not anti-vax entirely.  The problem is these are all risk reward and they are toxic and cause immune damage.  ALL.  Just just any drug , you have to take them when the rewards out-way the risks.   I am ok like Robert,  that most of us pre 1989 got less than 10 or so vaccines.  Most people can handle this without too much damage.  Today, we have 72 shots on the schedule before 60mos of age.   That is just not reasonable and the reward does not warrant the risk anymore.  AND then they want kids to take how many COVID shots?  It is nuts.

    Of interest, not everyone is as susceptible to autism, Genetics does play a roll.  If you are familiar with the MTHFR polymorphism ( I spoke of in other threads )  It means that you cannot convert folic acid to folate properly.  (45% of the population has this ) This is not a genetic disease or defect.  As folic acid does not occur in nature ever.   It is a synthetic medicine that only half the population can effectively convert.  However they have sacrificed half the population by adding this toxic compound to our food - it is again mass medication like flouride in the water was.  or still is ( both flouride and folic acid  banned in the EU )  but not US.

    Of interest regarding this Folic acid.  They took levels of B12 and folic acid of pregnant women and at time of birth.   They found women who had elevated folic acid , had a 17 fold chance of having a child with autism and women who had both elevated folic acid and elevated B12, had a 34 fold chance of having a child with autism.   This is important because those with the Polymorphism have at risk alleles , if you carry one you covert poorly , if you have two , you almost dont convert at all.   If you have elevated levels of either , you have what is known as methyl block ( blocking of the cellular methylation )  If you have elevated levels of both , you are in complete methyl block.   This methylation process is like cellular house keeping , and cellular detoxification...  The use of folic acid ( poison ) not folate ( nutrient ) has crippled peoples detox ability.  Load them with toxic poisons including aluminum and mercury. found in all vaccines., and you have all the chronic conditions we now see.  ( both are toxic )   getting rid of mercury didnt solve anything because people were concerned - they just substituted aluminum.  Which is no better.     But now you can see a pathway by which is possible that these drugs harm - And make no mistake - that folic acid is mass medication and has host of other problems , dont even need vaccines.   You can not only chart that increase in autism and chronic disease, with increase use of vaccines, but that overlay of folic acid addition to our foods mirrors the same.  Either case our government is mass medicated healthy people with absolute undeniable consequences.

    Regarding Robert trying to convince that vaccine compensation board with little evidence ( as said ) if paired with the undeniable other mass medication ( and correlation data ( it cannot be refuted that mass medication does harm ) you can do a quantitative test for Methyl block ( with elevated levels B12 and Folic Acid ) and confirm with a genetic test for the polymorphism, and you know you have been harmed by taking 72 vaccinations.

    I want to thank Chris for this incredible interview.  And also thank Robert, not only for his time with the tribe, but his dedication to the vaccine awareness cause.  I respect his work and his integrity.  We are lucky to have such people dedicated to protecting the people in lieu of $$$, as most politicians and governors.

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  • Thu, Sep 16, 2021 - 11:14pm

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    jisaac said:

    The diagnostic criteria of autism has drastically changed so anyone who is mildly socially impaired can get diagnosed. It is a fad diagnosis.

    So, the numbers are very inflated.

    I can accept that incidence of severe autism has increased, but not to the degree depicted.

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  • Thu, Sep 16, 2021 - 11:51pm

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    regarding inflated numbers

    That is what MSM and CDC and vaccine pushers use to validate the correlation , that somehow we have better diagnostics.   Yeah really?   Show me a blood test for autism or even a xray or other scan?   You cannot look at someone with autism today,  and say geeze we  would have called this normal 30 years ago.   NOPE, I am not going to even entertain this garbage line "we have better diagnostics today."

    AND I am going to back it up even more.  There are countries who did not engage in the vaccine campaign at the same time as the US ,and therefore do not have the same timeline of autism cases.   But they do have modern medicine and modern diagnostics, just latter into the vaccine campaign.   But you know what , they did not have autism before the vaccines, and their diagnoses also mirror their campaigns identically as well.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 12:21am

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    OMG great interview

    He just wanted to protect hallowed father son fishing rituals, which were messed with by greedy polluting corporations, which was discovered by VAX damaged mothers....

     

    this is the story of someone with a true moral compass, because then it led him directly into conflict with friends and acquaintances in his exalted social circle, yet he persisted...

    it is an irony of the old High Yankee morality and upbringing, that some of the values they instilled to differentiate themselves from gauche scumbag nouveaux riche , these values directed them to oppose and call out some of their own class colleagues.

    Ah well, they're not making them like that anymore ... or are they? C'mon, stand up if you are an heir to that proud tradition. Don't let it die out in this sad decade. Look at your Uncle's nice rug. Have you got a better heritage of values?  Our mayor goes to Kennebunkport to preside at some declensions wedding, is this the new through line of morality for your clan? C'mon Man.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 12:30am

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    Three out of three Autistic grandchildren

    means I have skin in the game.

    I had never heard of autism before these kids.

    The other grandparents are Normies to the bone. "It happens" he said, and walked away. (The Government wouldn't harm the children. Impossible) They are the parents of my beautiful daughter-in-law.

    My son listened in to a Big Pharma lecture conference. He was the audio engineer. He knows.

    They raved on about a "blockbuster drug" that was going to make them all as rich as Midas. That's what Blockbuster Drug means to Big Pharma. Did you really think that it was going to cure tropical diseases in Africa, Gladys?

    My son is thoroughly black pilled. He knows. But what to do about it? So I slipped him a copy of "Fooling Ourselves" to leave on the coffee table so that she could go through the 5 stages of grief on her own terms.

    I fear that she will go from being our sweet gentle Angela to being Mommy Bear.

    Read these graphs and weep.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 1:00am

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    COVID horror story

    My daughter related this story to me and then sent me a link.

    https://www.prvbsgirl2.com/my-dads-story-c-vid-didnt-kill-him

    I can't tell you how angry this makes me.  

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 1:24am

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    Stealth Bomber comment.

    So. It can not fly in the rain? This is an important throw away line. Why? Because the stealth Bomber is grossly underpowered, by design. The Jet's purpose is as a van der Graaf generator to produce the (Very) high voltage leading edge. Rumour has it that ground crew may not approach the aircraft until it has discharged.

    Ionized water would short out the voltage.

    What's the significance of that? They are using Townsend Brown's electro-gravitics. (Demonstrated to Admiral Rickover in 1957).

    Meaning? TR3B craft sightings are valid.

    NASA has abandoned rocketry because they have something better. Much better.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 1:37am

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    The Good, Bad & Ugly

    The "Good" for mankind is this interview is available to learn from (Thank you Chris),

    The "Bad" is that I have heard the Anthrax material was US way back, hearing this interview has a ring of confirmation. The fact that we may be experiencing greed at unprecedented levels is not so new for a dictatorship.  However the greed we see based on a our democracy, has failed our social contract for "We the People".  We may want to be human and blame someone, anyone, such as our trusted leadership, except this volition is becoming all to regular.

    "Ugly" is when we see bureaucrats ruining our lives, taking anything and everything across the planet they want for the sake of power. It's not so funny, if a bureaucrat never has to risk and often points to leadership for any mistake made....

    When a resources is a limited commodity, such as public trust, the time will come when that resource is in short supply.  We must learn to think as if our lives depend on it. Think about how or why Vit-D helps, or EVMS covidecare works. Think about how hypochlorous acid  is such a great antimicrobial material that is safe to use.

    I am new to PP; I wish everyone peace and prosperity. Love your family and friends....

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 2:13am

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    I love real liberals

    The linkage between environmental activism, mercury, coal robber barons, US imperialism, gaslighting of vax side effects causing autism in young boys, and now Fauci (and Wellcome) and their COVID medical imperialism by controlling all the funding - it is all of a piece.  RFKJ's story hangs together in a really consistent way.  I love his big picture presentation.

    How do you know who is who?

    Real liberals are punished by the system for what they do.  Fake liberals (like the "woke" group today) gets funding and rewards from Oligarchy.  That's how you tell the difference.  If the media bashes the group - that's the marker for "real liberalism" which is threatening MSM ad revenues.

    Thanks for the interview.  Real liberals do still exist.  And I'm grateful that they do.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 3:47am

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    WOW- eyes opened

    This video really opened my eyes, thank you Chris and the PP team, interested in more please keep up the good work.  P.S had first pfizer jab and had a terrible reaction, metallic taste in mouth, feet freezing and couldn't get warm, hot and cold shivers for 24 hours along with a very puffed up red arm, felt like I had a ton of bricks on my chest. Think I will pass on getting the second jab, no job is worth it, especially now my eyes are open.....add in a persistent high pitched ringing in my ears to the new list of symptoms from the first jab

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 4:56am

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    TO CHRIS - PLEASE CHECK THIS OUT and Comment

    https://www.notonthebeeb.co.uk/drt-genocide

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 4:57am

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    ian.k said:

    Great interview Chris. Kennedy really tied up some loose ends in the relationship between the Intelligence agencies, the MIC and the Covid 19 pandemic of fear  and irrationality that is being inflicted on us.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 5:09am

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    Kudos to you both

    More and more I believe that true courage, integrity and honour are manifested in the choice not only to face the rabbit hole of horror but then to decide to go down it and investigate.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 6:25am

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    You're not alone

    Willjose,

    The vaccine ground under me has been breaking apart in the last few weeks as I read more and more. Those are the same three studies that I have been looking at. Even before Covid, I was noticing the enormous amount of advertising for the flu vaccine. Every pharmacy had multiple signs about getting jabbed.

    I know that I should stop using the term, antivax, but that is what I am becoming. As I attempt to follow truth, I also look for the lessons that it teaches me. One of the lessons in this twist in my thinking is that along the way I have found that the people ahead of me include some deeply religious people. They have been antivax.  I'm not religious and not spiritual. I find it interesting the number of times I have found strong connection with that group on a number of issues. Out of 100 coworkers, I have only found one that stepped outside one sunny day and made a comment about vitamin D. She is religious and she is the only person that I can completely connect with on the topic of Covid at my work.

     

    Will

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 6:30am

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    One Jab To Rule Them All...

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    The philosophy of 'centralised control' has a lot to answer for...

    So the collusion between the biomafia & intelligence agencies has not been good for our health. The institutions which used to provide the 'checks & balances' have all but been captured, & the MSM has been co-opted to serve as a mouthpiece for the power elites.

     

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 6:36am

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    Another interview worth watching: Interview with Michael Yeadon, former Vice President and Chief Science Officer of Pfizer, where he worked for 16 years.

    https://rumble.com/vg4inv-michael-yeadon-full-interview-planet-lockdown.html

     

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 6:59am

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    Book Ordered

    Phenomenal interview - although I'm not sure it was really an interview since Chris asked, what, 3 questions in an hour? lol

    Book ordered. We went through Children's Defense Fund to support the cause, not Amazon. This way CDF gets both Kennedy's royalty and the difference between wholesale and retail prices - maximizing their benefit.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 7:16am

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    One Jab To Rule Them All...

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    Dr. Robert Malone video on simiar topic

    Long video which covers similar structural problems in the system & questions the flawed ethics of the 'noble lie'... I started watching it at about 1:30:00 - it seemed to get very juicy there.





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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 7:41am

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    The Covidian Cult – There’s Reality, and There’s “Reality”

    Great short essay by CJ Hopkins (American in Berlin) reprinted today by Dr Mercola. Says that Global Capitalism has created this thing it calls "reality" and we are all living inside this cult. Says the best way to subvert the cult is to make it show how totalitarian it really is, so the sheeple start to wake up.

    Go visit if only to see the picture of the sheep wearing masks. (and before the article disappears)

    "we need to make GloboCap (and its minions) go openly totalitarian … because it can't. If it could, it would have done so already. Global capitalism cannot function that way. Going openly totalitarian will cause it to implode … no, not global capitalism itself, but this totalitarian version of it. In fact, this is starting to happen already.

    It needs the simulation of "reality," and "democracy," and "normality," to keep the masses docile. So we need to attack that simulation. We need to hammer on it until it cracks, and the monster hiding within in appears.'

    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/09/17/the-covidian-cult.aspx?

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 8:44am

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    I’ve been here 12 years

    I’ve been here 12 years.   And I plan to be here 12 more…

    But I need to see an equal and opposite guest who presents the other side of (some of) RFKjr’s argument.

    I joined Peak Prosperity (really, ChrisMartenson.com) because I didn’t have time to read all the news with enough detail and skepticism to get any actionable information out of it.  Because I was in a demanding career which shunned Malthusian views of the world.  I needed someone smart and inquisitive, who thinks like I do, and is willing to believe “crazy” things if that’s where the evidence takes him.  I’m starting to see enough evidence to (at least) question certain vaccines, but I’m also seeing some cracks in my original calculus for joining, which can be repaired by bringing in some alternative voices/arguments.  We are ALL susceptible to confirmation bias.

    Every family has a crazy uncle (mine included).  It’s easy to take the thoughtful/coherent words of someone who was in “the room where it happened”, but we are all human beings, and we are all susceptible to being hacked by social media and internet rabbit holes.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 8:53am

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    Kathy said:

    I’ve found the opposite side easy to access through the MSM.

    I do agree that it is important to collect information from a spectrum.  I get bombarded with the “everyone should get a flu, Covid, pneumonia, shingles whatever shot” message  daily.

    Getting the alternate message of “hmmm maybe we should look into this more” is why I come to PP.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 9:05am

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    Kennedy

    The revelation that Jeremy Farrar was MI6 was a bit of a shocker. I am going to try to back check that one since it is so shocking.

    I ordered a copy of the book since much of what Kennedy said seemed to tie things together in ways I had not considered.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 10:10am

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    Follow the money

    The EXACT same arguments can be applied to the food industries nutrition message.  The US Gov. happily supports catastrophic nutritional info as it pockets food and drug industry funding and donations.

    The difference is that poor nutrition is the number one cause of death in Western Society, where covid falls lower in the ranking.  Experts say 75% of us die younger due to poor diet.

    Peak Prosperity regularly encourages manufactured supplements, rather than delving into nutrition research that is easily available and overwhelmingly consistent.

    We all, to some extent, see what we are willing to see.

    Perhaps I am guilty of that, because I’m vaccinated and intend to remain current on vaccines.  For me it seems simple.  If the benefits seem to clearly outweigh the risks, the decision is simple, even if some level of risk exists.

    But again, I’ve very thoroughly researched the number one cause of death, nutrition, and continue to do so, rather than focusing on the much lower risk posed by covid vaccines.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 10:16am

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    Mike from Jersey said:

    Stephanie V,

    You wrote:

    I always wondered if vaccines had anything to do with my immune issues.

    I really never gave much thought to the overall vaccine debate. But a co-worker had an autistic child. Later, when I found out that some people allege a connection between vaccines and autism, I told him about it. He told me that theory had been debunked. I didn't think much more of it at the time. Later, I looked into the "debunking" studies. They were complete nonsense. They compared "vaccinated children" with "less vaccinated" (but still vaccinated) children and did not find any "statistically significant" difference in autism levels.

    I thought to myself, "this is nonsense."

    I am not anti-vax. I got the polio vax and the smallpox vax as a child and am okay with that. But I think Kennedy may have a real point that the massive overvaxxing of kids since the 1980's may very well have damaged the health of the succeeding generations.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 10:30am

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    [quote]regarding inflated numbers

    That is what MSM and CDC and vaccine pushers use to validate the correlation , that somehow we have better diagnostics.   Yeah really?   Show me a blood test for autism or even a xray or other scan?   You cannot look at someone with autism today,  and say geeze we  would have called this normal 30 years ago.   NOPE, I am not going to even entertain this garbage line "we have better diagnostics today."

    AND I am going to back it up even more.  There are countries who did not engage in the vaccine campaign at the same time as the US ,and therefore do not have the same timeline of autism cases.   But they do have modern medicine and modern diagnostics, just latter into the vaccine campaign.   But you know what , they did not have autism before the vaccines, and their diagnoses also mirror their campaigns identically as well."[/quote]

    our environment has changed and it is foolish to just blame vaccines.

    The definition of autism has changed entirely.

    Autism used to be a severe developmental disability under the pervasive developmental disorder umbrella.

    They got rid of PDD and called it all autism with different function levels.

    There are many people who would qualify for a mild autism diagnosis that look/seem pretty normal and for the most part are.

    Do not get me wrong, this does not mean that vaccines can not trigger severe regressive autism, but stats like 1 in 22 are junk.

     

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 10:41am

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    Defining capitalism

    Canuck21,

    I don't reply to your comment out of objection to what you say. I agree mostly.

    I get triggered when people blame "capitalism" as a system and point to it as the source of all the problems of the world. But that may be because I have a different sense of the definition.

    To me, as you say, Capitalism CANNOT be totalitarian. It is inherently opportunistic. It is built on and thrives on competition. It is the method of economic evolution, purely darwinian. And though monopolistic for a time, the diaspora of those successful ideas into the market ensures that monopolies can only naturally exist for a brief moment before they collapse and divide through mitosis and entropy. The same thing happens with pure Democracy. The same with environmental dominance by any species, eventually their success is mimicked and they overconsume in their environment and they suffer collapse or die back. Regression back to the mean.

    What people most frequently point to when they say "Capitalism!" With a snear on their lip, is the interaction between government and corporations. I would call this Corporatism which to me is a violation of the economic laws of nature because it is an unholy alliance between two powerful forces by artificial means. Anytime regulation is imposed to create barriers to entry into a field, that is not a natural economic process. That is a protective act, but one that weakens the economy by preventing a group or a product or a business from facing true competition, and thus incentivising them to reward their protectors, who then can trust them to serve at their behest. Thus stitching together the fates and fortunes of two disperate ideas. It is inorganic, it is unnatural and is destined to die.

    To me the repulsion really comes when it is used as the impetus to reject economics entirely and promote socialism or communism. Laying the blame primarily on the business and the generation of wealth as the real crime rather than regulation and the force of government to choose winners or losers in an environment.

    It is the same as when a government agency declares a species off limits. Which basically ensures its extinction. As it goes, if you can't cut down the tree posing an insurance liability to your home and family, because a snowy owl is nesting in its branches, you are going to take actions to convince that owl to move on. This stress causes snowy owl birth rates to plummet and the species slowly dies off except in captivity, where it begins to evolve a dependence on its captors. Now tell that story for any business serving the government. Conversely, any species targetted for eradication flourishes and hardens under the pressure. Dandelions, marijuana, rats, flies and mosquitoes... all seem to do quite well in spite of human eradication efforts.

    Capitalism though, is a system fully oppressed by government. I can't point to an industry that enjoys true capitalism once the government determines a value in the product. Government is inherently antithetical to freedom and nature. Government represents control, and Capitalism to me is freedom, without favoritism or coercion. I don't see that we've really had that in America since the 1800's at the latest.

    But I agree that the fascism, the unholy marriage of corporations and government needs to be tried and allowed to fail for our country to learn from its error. To create that visceral revulsion in the hearts of the population for what that becomes. Though most here already are keenly aware of the fundamental flaws of these systems, the population at large is still enamored by the individual parts of that monstrous whole. Though I can't point to Germany or Italy and say that this lesson was learned by their people as a consequence of their failed foray's into fascism (as they are today engaged in similar systems). I think unless the distinction is made that it is Government driving this, we will be destined to keep enduring the same cycles over and over in history. The thing that characterizes ALL the nations that have succumbed to this whole fraud, is that ALL of them have strong central governments with strong influence in the economy.

    We need to recognize that first before we can sequester the root cause of the problem and truly learn from all this. I thought America's founding fathers had, but obviously the prohibitions and consequences weren't strong enough to prevent it's growth.

    We'll see how we remedy that oversight in the coming days.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 10:42am

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    Wonderful link from my employer

    In one of their "get vaxxed" propaganda emails.

    What a clever idea: disguise propaganda and lies as a quiz!

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/quiz-how-much-do-you-know.html

    And in the link to additional information on the pregnancy and fertility question, notice an interesting implication about who can be pregnant?

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/pregnancy.html

    I'm not quite finished with the interview.  I'll comment when I do.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 10:48am

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    I think Chris talked for a total of 3 mins!

    Great Interview.

    Chris you did not get to say much...RFK Jr said it all.

    You should do a breakdown video on this one for sure.

    A lot to unpack in this one.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 10:56am

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    End-stage Capitalism = Oligarchy

    The problem with capitalism is, the logical end state of capitalism is a collection of monopolies.

    Why is this true?  If the goal of each capitalistic actor is to maximize profits - then monopolies do that best.  So that's the logical end state to which each capitalist actor legitimately aspires.  "Maximizing shareholder value" is the ne plus ultra of capitalism.  And that's best accomplished by being a monopoly.

    For "the capitalist system" to work best for the individual Plebes, no one participant - or group of participants - should be allowed to act as a monopoly.  Otherwise, it isn't "capitalism", it is just harvesting.  But in reality, harvesting is just "end-stage capitalism", i.e. Oligarchy.  Which is where we are today.

    So for "actual capitalism" to function in a way that benefits the society as a whole (and the Plebes in particular), no one actor can be (say) larger than 10% of the total.

    And so the State must intervene to make sure this is the case.  State intervention is required to preserve "actual capitalism" for the Plebes, where competition takes place vs the Plebe-harvesting that is executed by the monopolies, in service to the Shareholders.

    That's my theory anyway.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 11:03am

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    Time To Interview Michael Hudson





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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 11:08am

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    Replying to End-stage Capitalism = Oligarchy (#36)

    Dave, you wrote:

    The problem with capitalism is, the logical end state of capitalism is a collection of monopolies.

    This is true and this is what we are seeing. That is one of the reasons that I liked Teddy Roosevelt. He saw that monopolies were destroying capitalism and worked to break them up. It worked for a while but the system became corrupted all over again.

    This is just the human condition.

    As John Lennon said: "Nothing is people proof."

     

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 11:10am

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    Happening NOW





    https://youtu.be/WFph7-6t34M

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 11:13am

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    Great video - purchased book

    Great video - very informative.  I came to PP to navigate Covid, and have learned so much in last 1.5 years here.  Thank you.   I also purchased the book to support RFK Jr.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 11:17am

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    Dave,

    I might argue that monopolies almost always require government intervention in the first place. So, far from being the solution to monopoly, government actually facilitates it. Likewise, oligarchs cannot exist without government.

    In nearly every case, the when a business, individual, or corporation gets big they immediately begin lobbying government for competitive advantages to stifle competition. A framework of regulations and laws are erected to insulate the entity from competitors or even normal market conditions.

    At the top of our enterprise system, there is no free market. Some free market vestiges exist in small business, where businesses fight it out with their competitors but above the small business level it becomes all about currying favor with government [ state/local/federal ].

    Government grants monopolies to favored vassals. Try building an automobile in your garage like Henry Ford. You cant even give a haircut without a government license. The government doesnt break up monopolies, that hasnt happened since Ma Bell. They grant monopolies to those who curry favor through campaign donations, lobbying, kickbacks and back room deals. They then get the government to create the regulations, grants, and contracts which tilt the playing field in their favor.

    In a truly free market a monopoly is almost impossible.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 11:47am

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    acesovereggs said:

    My mom was a nurse in the 90's/early 2000's before quitting in disgust at the system, and that was back THEN.  She implored me never to agree to be an organ donor.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 11:48am

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    Canuck21 said:

    Hi DKN, thanks for your thoughtful and extensive reply. Those were not my comments, they were quotes from the article I linked to. I like your definition of corporatism, so I think we are really on the same page.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 12:12pm

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    Dave,

    I can agree to an extent. But I think the regulations that are created by government prevent natural competition from arising. Even regulation that is created to prevent a dubious and predatory rise of a corporation doesn't undo that corporations rise, it only prevents other competition from joining the market by the same means. Even fines, regardless of how financially impactful they may be, are not enough to discourage behavior, they simply put a price on bad behavior and become a cost of doing business, ultimately passed on to the consumer. Even monopoly busting isn't truly anti-corporate as Ma Bell demonstrates. It reformed as a more monolithic entity over time.

    Yes, industry drifts toward singularity, particularly when it is too large to face organic competition. Whether that singularity be oligarchy (or cartel) or monopoly, the surest way to ensure that outcome the fastest is to regulate competition out of the market.

    The economy is like a vine, and the government regulation is a trellis and the trowel. If there were nothing to support the monopoly, it would collapse under its own weight and the free market would flourish. Though admittedly the weeds of corruption too would take over creating a wild and impenetrable undergrowth of its own.

    The problem is that invariably, and every society ultimately follows this pattern, is that government requires taxation to function. Taxation is inherently tied to the economy and so to maximize taxation, government is incentivised to reduce competition because economic singularity sets prices that maximizes tax revenues.

    I agree we are largely at the end stages of our system. Oligarchy is definitely the systemic norm now, but it was created and incentivized by the relationship between corporations and government.

    I see government as being ultimately responsible for that, you see corporations as the responsible parties. Both follow their mutual interests to reach that inevitable outcome, but ultimately we can agree that the union of those two entities ALWAYS leads to the bad outcomes we are seeing today and 80 years ago.

    I would suggest that, just like the separation of church and state our founders insisted on, we should similarly have a separation of state and economy. End the Fed. End fiat currency.

    Update: You're right though Dave, now that I'm thinking about it. What we are seeing is definitely late stage. I just wouldn't call it Capitalism. But like every Communist who decries never seeing real communism. I have to agree that more often than not Economic dominance habitually takes this course. I refuse to believe it's "natural" but I'm hard pressed to find any alternative examples.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 12:22pm

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    Monopolies are not inevitable

    "The problem with capitalism is, the logical end state of capitalism is a collection of monopolies."

    With respect, I disagree. A company that outcompetes and dominates its market space can become a monopoly - so long as it continues to outcompete, even with the advantages of a market leader. As soon as a better competitor arises, it loses marketshare to the competition - provided there is a free market for competition.

    It's only when the government steps in to use laws and regulations (i.e., force) to establish a cartel or monopoly that predatory monopolies persist.

    Conversely, the modern economic theory of perfect competition is also flawed. We don't have a huge number of equal competitors with equal information.

    The reality is we have in free markets nearly everywhere a rank-size distribution following Zipf's law.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rank%E2%80%93size_distribution

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipf%27s_law

     

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 12:28pm

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    Yet another fantastic interview!

    The last few sessions I listened  in the car or while cycling. Somehow this helps me focus more on the voices of the persons. Biden is totally fake, that Canedian guy is even more fake, just listen, don’t look. This interview however kind of touched me. Kennedy is so sincere. Plus, I totally liked the content. U will buy the book, but most definitely notcread it. I’m not interested in the machinations of psychopaths.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 12:31pm

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    Canuck21,

    Its all good. I appreciate your post. It spurred my thoughts and created a thoughtful debate. That makes it a great comment. I'd like it twice if I could.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 12:37pm

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    Real Liberals

    Dave,

    I get what you're saying about "real liberals" but see it differently. There are ongoing changes between generations, where often historically one generation's liberals are the next generation's conservatives (in terms of broad political positions). JFK, for instance, would fit in better with today's conservatives than with today's leftists or liberals.

    More, though, I find the right-left axis problematic in describing political views. Yes, there are many who agree with the hodgepodge of stances on particular issues that come from joining one party or group. I see the root issue on all particular debates as freedom vs tyranny: does a particular policy recognize the sovereign rights of the individual, or does it infringe on them? So rather than a liberal-conservative axis, a liberty-tyranny axis is a better way to conceptualize political debate.

    From that perspective, we have a horrifying move this century away from individual rights and toward outright dictatorship. Even commonly accepted social norms like agreeing to disagree, or recognizing someone's right to speak even when we disagree, are largely removed from social media and political discourse. And relevant to this thread: the idea of questioning authority is largely gone, replaced with blind obedience to authority, public shaming, refusal to debate, rejection of the very idea of debate and reasoning, cancel culture, shadow banning, doxxing, ostracizing, etc. All of these are tools to establish and maintain authority - even when used unwittingly by those who have no authority but subscribe to the official narrative.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 12:40pm

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    Kudos

    Very powerful interview. I am not a fan of the Kennedy clan. I am not anti-vaccine. But, RFK jr did an excellent job of putting these pieces together, and raising interesting questions.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 12:50pm

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    Zipf's law in economies

    Redneck Engineer,

    Just so I understand you correctly, you're saying the free market breaks down naturally into the first place outperforming the second place by two and the third place is again half the second? So for a market of five competitors one has half the market share, the next has 25%, and the third has 12.5%, fourth is 6.25% and fifth is 3.125% with the rest being consumed by small market competitors and cottage industry. If you know of a paper that illustrates this I'd love to read it. That's fascinating if true.

    I don't mean to have derailed this comment section though. RFKJr really surprised me as an articulate and sensible man driven by compassion. I had a negative view of the Kennedy's as a power hungry family of entrenched elitists. This interview was refreshing as well as informative. I will be buying that book!

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 1:21pm

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    Would love a transcript!

    If that is possible.

    🙂

    On another note:  the Richard Dolan interview linked by mpup and crossland follows the stages of take over from the 911 false flag (and UFOs which were Dolans awakening sparks) through to the patriot act, surveillance state and now the medical dictatorship "to protect the public."  It is an our long.  Little that is new to many here at PP.  But ties the story together.

    This is why it is so important that we not participate in the mandates or tracking process.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJR99bWe9js

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 1:34pm

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    end-stage capitalism

    What I've noticed, is that the big guy in an industry buys up all the little guys, gets bigger, keeps buying more little guys, and ends up having more or less total pricing power over individual markets.  The big guy becomes "the company store."

    Absent restrictions from the government, the largest player will work to acquire all competitors in a market, and that lets the big guy set prices higher than they would have been had he not bought up all his competition.

    Take airlines as an example.  Three carriers serve a city.  The big one buys the medium-sized one.  Then he buys the small one.  One one carrier serves the city now.  What does the big carrier charge?  Whatever price they want.  No competition is left.  If a new one gets formed - the big guy buys that carrier too.   I recall having to pay $400 to fly in some puddle-jumper plane on a 30 minute flight to visit my older sister in northern CA.  Only one carrier served the market.

    No bribing of government is required.  It is just acquisition.

    The only reason it doesn't happen more often is the "anti-trust" legislation, which is mostly ignored these days.

    We have seen this happen a million different times.

    End-stage capitalism.  We could also call it "the harvesting-stage" capitalism.

    Capitalism only works best when there are lots of little companies, all competing for customers.  "Large" businesses kill capitalism.  Its not a factor of government bribery.  It is just size, and an engineered lack of competition.  Which is the goal of every good capitalist participant.

    Here's the paradox: while capitalism at a theoretical level is all about competition, actual participants in capitalism do NOT like competition.  Participants want MONOPOLY, because that maximizes profits.  Profit-maximization is, after all, the end goal of capitalism participants.  And if the participants execute this properly, the "profit-maximizing" function of capitalism at a participant level ends up producing monopoly.

    Monopoly is the expected result from unrestricted capitalism.  It is the logical end state of participants looking to maximize profits.  Or so I maintain anyway.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 1:40pm

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    Whitney said:

    Absolutely, transcript is coming soon!

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 1:51pm

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    ta2021Ag said:

    Thank you Chris for this interview!  Thank you and bless you Robert Kennedy Jr., you are brave as RFJ.   An elite telling everything.  Will be getting several copies of his book.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 1:56pm

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    Another avenue for pushing vaccines

    Another Reason To Get Vaccinated? Many Insurance Companies Aren’t Covering COVID-19 Costs Anymore

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 1:58pm

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    RFK Jr was in line to be a US vaccine safety czar

    Jan/Feb 2017, Trump was coming into office.  He met with RFK Jr and a couple other people about a push for Trump to involve Kennedy in a vaccine safety position.  It all seemed very possible.  It all quietly disappeared.  Looking back, it's clear that Big Pharma would never have tolerated that, and Trump probably realized he needed to focus on other major political challenges at the beginning of his first term.  But OMG, I'm not sure Trump could have had a more lasting impact on our national and future health than exposing the corruption and fraud that constituted our most basic vaccine practices and have largely destroyed our children's health.

    RFK Jr and Del Bigtree traded communications with US Health & Human Services in 2017/2018 on safety and efficacy issues surrounding childhood vaccines.  One issue was the status of biennial vaccine safety reports that H&HS was required to submit to the Senate starting in 1988 (as required by the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, in return for the liability protection granted to the manufacturers).  Kennedy and Bigtree pushed the issue, which resulted in HHS stipulating in federal court on 7/6/18 that H&HS had no records of any reports ever having been prepared or submitted.  The other communications established that of the 72 doses of 16 vaccines that children are given, exactly ZERO underwent legitimate safety testing.  ZERO of the studies had a placebo or inert control.  Anyone who wants to see those documents (a series of 4 .pdfs), PM me with your email and I'll forward them along.

    "Vaccines are safe and effective"  That was the mantra going into the Covid pandemic.  What utter rubbish.  Not safe, and too many of them not very effective.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 2:10pm

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    brushhog said:

    Let me give you a different example; You try to build cars in a small private garage the way Henry Ford did. Ford motors will not try to buy you up. At this point they rely on a network of government agencies to shut you down. The quagmire of regulations will make it literally impossible unless you are a multimillionaire with good government connections.

    In your example of the airline. There are hundreds of small, capable, experienced pilots with planes that would be happy to take a few people a day 30 minutes to the next airport. They can't do that by law. There are thousands of open fields with farmers, landowners, businesses, etc who would be very happy to allow small aircraft to land on a strip for a fee. They arent allowed by law. It isnt the airlines who are buying these people out...its the laws that have been lobbied for and curated that protect those airlines/airports from competition.

    The free market America that existed a hundred years ago, when today's industry behemoths were just getting started, no longer exists. You CANT do what Ford and Rockefeller did by LAW. They arent going to bother buying you out [ which wouldnt be so bad ] because if what you say is correct about the goal being to maximize profits....why spend money buying out every competitor when we can just get the government to stop you for free?

    Next up...why bother to entice the public to buy our goods and services with low prices and good products when we can just get the government to force you to buy it??

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 2:28pm

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    Zipf's law in markets

    "Just so I understand you correctly, you're saying the free market breaks down naturally into the first place outperforming the second place by two and the third place is again half the second?"

    I see your point. To clarify: I didn't mean markets will have so precise a distribution. Clearly there is variation from market to market and over time.

    What I was arguing against is the idea that markets eventually end up with winner-take-all or equal distribution among vast numbers of competitors, which are the two general views in economics.

    Instead there generally is a natural distribution in fairly free markets where one or a few top competitors dominate a market, then there are others with increasingly smaller market share. For instance, look at how internet browsers divide up their market. Or computer operating systems. Or crypto.

    I'm not aware of papers arguing for or against this idea. I'm not sure where I picked up the idea.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 2:28pm

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    sure

    Brushhog-

    There are a thousand ways to skin the profitability cat.  Profit maximization is about minimizing competition in any way possible.  Acquisition, regulation, whatever it takes.

    The capitalism-imperative is about minimizing competition to maximize profits.

    That's the dirty little secret.  While - theoretically - capitalist theorists trumpet competition as the great equalizer, the individual participants hate the thought of actual competition.

    Seriously.  Whatever it takes - competition must be eliminated, by any means necessary.  You talk about regulation.  Fine.  Acquisition.  Fine.  The details don't matter.  Competition must be eliminated.  Government is the servant here.  The capitalist participants are the ones calling the tune.

    Because - the profit maximization function that's an intrinsic feature of capitalism.

    What's the fix?  You tell me.  But "no regulation at all" won't work.  The "libertarian ideal" will lead directly to monopoly. The participant-profit-maximization function will see to it that this is so.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 2:45pm

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    Domination Free Zones / Lessons from Native Americans

    On Substack.com I have followed contributors for years; thinkers and writers who prefer not to be editied or censored. One such is Tessa Lena. In a recent post she wrote...

    "For the historical context, I’d like to offer an insightful perspective from my friend Steven Newcomb who is a Shawnee/Lenape scholar of the Manifest Destiny and the Doctrine of Domination. This interview with Steven is from April. I think that the parallel he brings up is very poignant, and just like the original people of this land who had no idea about the “new normal” coming for them when the first ships arrived—the “new normal” in which they were not entitled to free will or spiritual authority— we here are facing a similar dilemma."

    https://tessa.substack.com/p/soul-authority

    Tessa's conversation with Steven Newcomb is part of her post, it is worth every minute to view it, and can also be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm495xQJDfM&t=3228s

     

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 2:52pm

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    It is a fad diagnosis. NOT!

    My sister who has been teaching grade school for 30+ years has made the comment several times over the last 6 or 8 years how many more Autistic children there are showing up. When she hears someone say "there are not more, there is just more diagnosis" she curtly states "obviously you have not had to deal with an autistic or several autistic children in a classroom all day or you wouldn't say that". SOme of them have gotten quite violent with her too, causing injury, She is very petite.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 3:12pm

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    I can’t believe

    I can’t believe A country that gave birth to Monsanto would put profit and power before safety and health

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 3:22pm

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    brushhog said:

    Dave,

    I dont believe no regulation leads to monopoly. Just the opposite. Monopolies are generally created by government. It is very difficult to create a monopoly without government interference. Governments are not breaking up monopolies anywhere so I dont know where this idea [ that we need government to prevent monopolies ] comes from.

    We have alot more government and alot more regulation than we had 100 years ago and we also have WAY more monopolies than they had. So the idea that governments have anything to do with breaking up monopolies is demonstrably wrong.

    Just look at the FDA...who runs it? Its run almost entirely by Pfizer/Bayer executives, they arent approving drugs from independent people. That government agency CREATES and ABETS the monopolies of the big pharmaceutical giants. Same goes with the EPA, and literally every government regulatory agency in the country.

    Alexander Fleming could never have invented penicillin in today's world. He did it in an environment of a freer market and little regulation. Come to think of it, just about every cure ever invented came about in that environment. In today's highly regulated America with massive computers, state of the art labs, and millions in government grant money...where are the cures? They all came 100 years ago.

    In my opinion, little regulation is the way to go. Yes there are dangers in making consumers personally responsible for their choices, but those dangers pale in comparison to the dangers presented by inevitable totalitarian mandates issued by omnipotent government agencies.

    The regulatory process and agencies will always eventually become tools for creating and maintaining monopolies.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 4:02pm

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    Is there hope with this bill before parliament in the UK??

    It seems that there are some with integrity in the UK, as the injuries and death from the injection are getting too hard to cover up.

    Watching with interest….

    https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/2926
    https://t.me/voicesforfreedom/573

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 4:36pm

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    Dave,

    To the core of my original post on this subject. I can't define that as capitalism. I do accept that there is a drive toward singularity. And that theory essentially ignores the "buy 'em out!" aspect of the market economy we have built. In a perfect system, there would be no buying out of competition, that option simply wouldn't exist, and doesn't where there is true competition in a market supplying a generic good, but in a system where regulation only blocks competition, not eliminating bad actors, all that happens is companies are secured in their unethical competetive advantage. Reality works differently than theory but reality is an interchange between stakeholders and the company, of which the government definitely is one. Not quite bribery or coersion, just overlapping interests that tend to dominate the long term corporate strategy. In the end shareholders lean toward secure and guaranteed wealth from government rather than the competition of the free market. So long as government is an economic interest in the market, they will drive market incentives toward monopoly. But in generic products, the only leg up is through regulation (ie the case of Ivermectin). That is NOT capitalism by my definition.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 4:50pm

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    The real question about vaccines

    It's true that Big Pharma has been guilty of putting profit before health any number of times. But that isn't the really pressing question.

    The real question is: why have vaccines got all mixed up with the question of how the brain and the rest of the body interact?

    There could be some overlap in the two issues, sure. It's possible that vaccines have affected the brain of some people, and we've seen the arguments in the video.

    But that isn't the whole story, as I see it. Because whenever somebody starts talking about vaccines too much, it's as if inevitably they will get pulled into one direction or the opposite one. Where are the people in the middle ground? What is it about vaccines that seems to affect people's brains? Or some other ideas, I'm sure you are aware of others like it.

    We all know the state of your body will affect your mind. If you are sick, you won't think as clearly and you may feel depressed or frustrated. Many will agree that the state of your mind can affect the rest of your body, too. And if that is true, could that explain the otherwise inexplicable attitudes of some people? Is it possible that "vaccine" can be, in the minds of some people, a dangerous idea, not because of what the actual vaccine can do, but because of what the idea of "vaccine" can do?

    I know it may sound wild, to say that an idea can be dangerous to your body. And, to be clear, I don't mean necessarily that just thinking about it may harm you. Ideas don't exist just inside your brain, they are shared among people. I'm trying to say that the way people share the idea of "vaccine", can make "vaccine" a harmful idea.

    Is what I'm saying making any sense to you?

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 5:04pm

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    Replying to The real question about vaccines (#66)

    MariaDWhite:

    You wrote:

    Is it possible that "vaccine" can be, in the minds of some people, a dangerous idea, not because of what the actual vaccine can do, but because of what the idea of "vaccine" can do?

    Maria, I can't speak for others but for myself it is the idea of forced medical intervention that drives me to distraction.

    There is a good reason for this. On one occasion, I was almost killed my the malpractice of a health professional. On another occasion, I was seriously injured by malpractice by someone else. On a third occasion I was pushed to have - what eventually turned out to be - an unnecessary operation.

    On that third occasion - after my previous experiences - I flat out refused the surgery because the things that the doctor was saying did not make sense to me. On that third occasion the condition - which I was told would get progressively worse and worse - vanished in a few months.

    That was thirteen years ago.

    With that history, it infuriates me when someone says "trust the medical experts."

    If there is one thing that I will never do again, it is to surrender medical decision making to "the experts."

    The idea of having a vaccine forced on me "since the doctors agree that it is best for me" absolutely infuriates me.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 5:07pm

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    Dontknownothin

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    FDA advisory panel rejects boosters

    I read in my email from Alex Berenson that the FDA advisory panel has rejected boosters. Though this is meaningless unless the FDA approvers actually heed this recommendation. But if anyone were looking for a signal for regulatory capture it will be the second time in as many months the experts will be over-ruled... maybe. Something to keep an eye on for now.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 5:07pm

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    Eisenhower was right

    The Military-Industrial Complex (this includes weapons manufacturers and  pharmaceutical manufacturers) is wrecking our once-great nation. Thanks to RFK Jr. for filling that one in and giving credit to the speech of an outgoing president.

    Great interview Chris!

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 5:26pm

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    Boosters

    The FDA advisory committee overwhelmingly rejected boosters for everyone 16 and older.  But there were subsequent considerations, based on very little discussion or time to consider the limited science.  The committee unanimously approved boosters for 65 and older plus those at high risk.  I don't know whether FDA is bound by what the committee says.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 5:29pm

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    Forced medical intervention is rape, pure and simple

    Maria, many of us here have said that we are not against vaccines in general, just these mRNA jabs masquerading as vaccines. There is your middle ground. More than that is hard to give you. It is not possible to have a needle inserted halfway into one.

    In my opinion, bodily autonomy trumps everything. Otherwise we are slaves and may as well be branded. Oh, wait, that's the QR codes...

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 6:43pm

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    Whitney said:

    Transcript is up now, Sand puppy!

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 6:43pm

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    Aducanamab (Aduhelm) is proof they can ignore the panel

    Kat43,

    Recently, the FDA advisory panel nearly unanimously (10 to 1 I think it was) rejected Aducanumab (Aduhelm) as an Alzheimers treatment. Despite this overwhelming vote of no confidence, the FDA approved this drug anyway. The whole panel resigned in protest. They absolutely don't need to follow the panels recommendation, and evidently don't even need justification for their decisions, so the panel is simply there to lend credibility to the approval process, not to actually be heard.

    I'm not sure how the advisory board actually works but since the Aduhelm debacle caused the lot of them to resign, these new ones would likely be hand picked to toe the party line. The unanimous vote against for any age group or co-morbidity is a very bad sign for the virtues of these jabs.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 7:22pm

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    on a lighter note...

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 7:38pm

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    mariannorton said:

    I know for a fact what Kennedy said is true because it happened to my son and hell will freeze over before the public will accept, or pharmaceutical companies will admit to, the fact that they poisoned our children.

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  • Fri, Sep 17, 2021 - 8:49pm

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    Mr. Kennedy

    He is an extremely honorable man and I'm so sorry for the hurt he's had to live through for speaking out.

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  • Sat, Sep 18, 2021 - 12:14am

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    capitalism, participants, regulation

    There are two imperatives to capitalism participants: ROI, and shareholder value.  Whatever it takes to increase ROI, and shareholder value, is what companies are duty bound to do.

    If capturing regulators increases shareholder value, then they'll do that.

    If acquiring competitors and securing monopolies or fixing prices increases shareholder value, then they'll do that too.

    For the participant, "competition" is to be avoided wherever possible - competition is expensive, and a zero sum game.  All the participants lose when there is competition, because prices will drop to their minimum acceptable level.  But if all the participants cooperate to set prices - well now.  That DOES increase ROI, and by extension, shareholder value.  For everyone!  Yay!  Price-fixing!

    My point here: while "capitalism" as a theoretical construct where competition ends up providing the greatest good makes sense, from the standpoint of the participants, competition absolutely sucks, because that structure serves to minimize their ROI, and thus, shareholder value.  Competition hoses participants to the same extent as it helps consumers.  You can see why participants really hate competition.

    Participants are duty-bound to find a way to avoid competition, due to their fiduciary duty to the shareholders.  Its why Merck is virtually required to trash Ivermectin - their shareholders will suffer if Merck's generic product they made 40 years ago beats out Merck's brand new proprietary pill.  And that shareholder-suffering must be avoided at all costs.

    So while "capitalism" as a structure is theoretically grand, the individual participants have a structural interest in doing everything they can do to reduce or eliminate competition.

    And so they do.  Capturing regulators & government, acquiring competitors, fixing prices - motivations for this behavior is built in to the capitalist structure itself.  "Maximize shareholder value" is the imperative for the participant.  All else is secondary.

    Does that make sense?

    Note - I'm not saying "don't do capitalism", but I am saying we need to be smart about understanding the structural motivations of the participants.  Participants hate competition.    So rules need to be in place to ensure competition.  And non-captured government regulators need to be able to enforce these rules.  "No regulation" isn't an option - it will lead directly to monopolies & price-fixing in short order, cuz that's how the structure is set up to work.

    Part of the issue is size: too big = controlled prices and/or regulatory capture.  Preferably, participants shouldn't be more than 10% of the total market.  (I just picked that 10% number out of my you-know-where.)  Likewise, penalties for price-fixing.  Likewise, prohibiting government regulators from working in industry for 10 years post-government-service = no revolving door.  No rewarding regulators with patents.  No "user fees" from industry.  No bribes.  Etc.

    Of course these rules won't pass because - currently - participants control Congress.  Of course they do.  You would seek this out also, if you were a participant.  ROI increases, and thus shareholder value goes up, if participants get to write the laws of the country.

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  • Sat, Sep 18, 2021 - 3:28am

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    WOW

    Great interview. I can't wait to see more in the book.

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  • Sat, Sep 18, 2021 - 5:23am

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    Thank You Will

    Will, thank you very much for posting this vid and the links.  Unfortunately, Dr. Weiler and Dr. Paul's study  was retracted, but of course that does not mean anything in terms of veracity, now does it?

    I lived it.  I've told this story several times.  My first two  kids were vaxxed like it was a religion and the two younger kids were not vaxxed.  Night and freakin day in the kids health.  The first two were constantly  chronically  sick and suffered terribly.  The two  younger kids NEVER WENT TO THE DOCTOR.  They were never sick.  One got impetigo, so we had to use an antibiotic.  That was it.

    I highly recommend the film "Vaxxed" and the Peeps TV America Tour.  I watched 100's of parents describe their children's decline in health and cognitive skills as they got vaccinated.  This is a crime of unimaginable proportion.

    Vaccination is no different than blood letting, the use of leaches, or giving mercury as medicine; ditto for cancer treatments.  Tell me how it is considered 'health care' to give the sickest patient in the room a 'medicine' that requires a hazmet suit to handle?

    We have gone insane.

    Signed by a former vaxxer.

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  • Sat, Sep 18, 2021 - 5:31am

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    Thank you Arthur

    Great charts, thanks for posting.  So sorry to hear about your grandchildren.

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  • Sat, Sep 18, 2021 - 6:34am

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    It's a righeous anger

    We've got some great posts going on here at PP.  AO, I was so angry after reading the blog, I wrote an email to Fauci praying for his prosecution, guilty verdict and execution.  And I don't support the death penalty.

    When people are being murdered en masse, where do you draw the line?

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  • Sat, Sep 18, 2021 - 6:38am

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    If it's' any consolation.........

    I'll repost my letter to Fauci here:

    To Fauci:  I cannot say "Dr." or "Mr." in your case.  I just want you to know that people are waking up and cutting out the middleman to get their information.  Do you know how many people know about Ivermectin and Covid?  Do you know how many people know that Remdesivir is a killer drug and inflating Covid numbers?  Do you know how many people are not only waking up to the dangers of the covid vaccines, but to the dangers of vaccines in general?
    Do you not understand that the more you mandate, mandate, mandate, the more push back you are going to get?  Do you  know how many people got the first shot and will not take the second?   Do you know how many got the second shot and will not take a booster?  Are you aware those numbers are growing?
    One day I hope you are put on trial and lawfully prosecuted for crimes against humanity, I pray you lose that trial, and I pray for your lawful and legal execution.
    You, Fauci, are a dangerous criminal.
    Sincerely,

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  • Sat, Sep 18, 2021 - 6:48am

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    That's the elite for ya

    I read rather than listened to the podcast and noticed the monologue pretty  quickly.  RFK, Jr. is a warrior, but he has a dark underbelly.  He is completely behind the climate/green energy agenda and I saw him mock a doubter (think Planet of the Humans).

    Has anyone seen the new credit cards with a carbon footprint monitoring system on all your purchases?  They're going for total digital imprisonment.  The pandemic served as the jolt then conforming exercise, now come the incremental and not so incremental encroachments.

    One after the other after the other and after the other.

    I've been yelling from the roof tops, everybody has to ditch cell phones as you know them.  Cell phones are the control mechanisms.

    Solution: One flip phone per family kept in the family car.  That's it.

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  • Sat, Sep 18, 2021 - 6:59am

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    Take the CDC Vaccine True or False Test

    I took the test and got as many incorrect answers as possible.  I so despise this abc agency.

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  • Sat, Sep 18, 2021 - 8:53am

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    Pinning or favoriting forum topics

    I've spent half an hour searching for the vax injury forum here. I can't discern how they are even sorted so I'll just post this study here. If anyone knows how to favorite a topic I'd appreciate the help.

    Japanese study is making connection between Intra-cranial hemorrhages and the pfizer vaccine. Though they have a very low official number of vaccine injuries or deaths reported or credited to the vaccine, they are pressing ahead with this as a direct risk from the vaccine.

    https://joppp.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40545-021-00326-7

    While the study pulled all its punches and made no conclusive declarations, it is telling that they are investigating the link. Of particularly interesting note was that the BNT162B2 vaccine (pfizer) is called tozinameran there, comirnaty elsewhere, and who knows how many other names elsewhere. Does this imply a different formulation?

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  • Sat, Sep 18, 2021 - 9:17am

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    Idea to inhibit development of monopolies in capitalism

    I think the Archdruid has had some good ideas about how to limit monopolies in capitalism - many of them encapsulated in his book retrotopia. One is to scrap a great deal of the laws regarding limited liability and allowing large (in terms of number of stock holders) joint stock corporations. It used to be (back around the Tudors until I think Adam Smith's time at least) that businesses were very limited in the terms of legal structures they could employ - mostly just partnerships and sole traders. The common law didn't recognise anything else. If you wanted to set up a joint stock company then you had to get approval from the Crown which would include a written description about how that particular company would function and normally it was for some specific time and purpose limited large project that would add a lot of public value like building a canal or railway. Also, there was no limited liability so the board of directors were also the senior management and had a lot of skin in the game. Even if you got permission to set up a joint stock company, the number of members might also be limited. These limits on funding automatically set limits on the ability for wealth accumulations to form. It wasn't impossible, there were still very wealthy private merchant families who arose over generations to finally challenge the old nobility, but it did seem to take a lot longer. Also, even today there are some globe spanning law and accounting firm partnerships. Although, I also understand that the sheer number of partners in these results in a dysfunctional dinosaur which makes things a little easier for smaller, more nimble firms to compete. Perhaps there should also be limits on the numbers of partners in a firm. Islamic law also has interesting ideas about finance which have the tendency to limit the accumulation of wealth. Things like the prohibition against usury. I understand that you can still invest for a return but it's as a share of the net profit (so more like a JV or partnership), not as a loan with 'guaranteed' interest. Even better, those laws are backed by the force of religion which maybe makes true believers less likely to ignore them or campaign to change the way they might with secular laws. Other old ideas include things like debt jubilees every x number of years.

    Anyways, one of the big benefits of going back to much simpler business structures without limited liability is that vast swathes of legislation would suddenly become obsolete since the businesses to which they apply would no longer exist. To some extent things like food safety regulations would also become less necessary, since small businesses are able to keep a much closer eye on their production processes, have more incentive to do so and if they do screw up affect far fewer people. This would then also lower barriers to entry.

    Not that I expect any of the above to occur unless or until major collapses in existing power centres occur and maybe we'll slide into a new dark age quickly enough that more beneficial (to the plebes) business structures become a bit of a moor point.

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  • Sat, Sep 18, 2021 - 9:28am

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    thank you

    Thank you Chris and especially Mr Kennedy! true heroes!

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  • Sat, Sep 18, 2021 - 3:26pm

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    Any Source of Information https://www.flemingmethod.com/

    Hi Chris,

    You may already know of this site.  Seems to consolidate a lot of information. Also event 2021 seems informative for what I’ve watched so far.

    https://www.flemingmethod.com

    Dubai Tom

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  • Sat, Sep 18, 2021 - 4:47pm

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    bergstrom_swe said:

    This clip was wild. Recommending everyone to look at 4h02min and forward, including Steve Kirsch's presentation.

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  • Sat, Sep 18, 2021 - 8:22pm

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    The CDC vaccine quiz is a good one to fail.

    Haha, I did that too.  I was proud of myself.  Of course, the grader is corrupted and gives you credit for what is actually the wrong answer.  Many of the questions did not have the actual correct answer among the choices.

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  • Mon, Sep 20, 2021 - 7:14am

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    Great Interview

    Very illuminating interview - thanks to Chris and Mr. Kennedy.  You are both inspiring and courageous!  I want to support Mr. Kennedy's work and have ordered the book.

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  • Mon, Sep 20, 2021 - 1:17pm

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    Group Therapy said:

    Great RFK Interview.  Thanks Chris.  This clarifies the times we live in.  Just having gotten out of the hospital (7 days) fighting this Fauci weaponized virus I completely concur with RFK and the larger picture of destructive megalomaniacs like Fauci.  He is no good guy.  Total power and manipulation.   One of many.  Part of a larger machine that is killing us.

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  • Mon, Sep 20, 2021 - 2:05pm

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    This is an amazing interview

    Chris, thanks for bringing RFK Jr to this platform. I heard him live a few weeks ago at an Amish gathering (open to English) and was as mesmerized by this interview as I was then. He gives me hope and he really clarified everything so succinctly that I wish I could share it. I’ll definitely buy at least one copy of the book and would avoid Amazon is there is a way.

    Chris, kudos for being a mindful interviewer and letting RFK Jr speak. So many interviewers break in and over talk guests. You were superb!

     

     

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  • Mon, Sep 20, 2021 - 2:08pm

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    Can you tell us more Group Therapy?

    I am sorry to hear of your travails but very happy to hear that you made it out of the hospital.  Did you avail yourself of early treatment that failed?  Did the Delta come on so fast that you could not get ahead of it with known protocols?  Were you given some of the effective treatments (monoclonals for instance) in the hospital?  Thank you, Jim

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  • Tue, Sep 21, 2021 - 4:45pm

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    Aluminum in vaccine "placebos"

    @Mike from Jersey
    I really never gave much thought to the overall vaccine debate. But a co-worker had an autistic child. Later, when I found out that some people allege a connection between vaccines and autism, I told him about it. He told me that theory had been debunked. I didn't think much more of it at the time. Later, I looked into the "debunking" studies. They were complete nonsense. They compared "vaccinated children" with "less vaccinated" (but still vaccinated) children and did not find any "statistically significant" difference in autism levels.

    AND they often put aluminum in the "placebos" (i.e. they only don't include the attenuated virus)!!!!!!!! THAT is your "vaccine science", folks. It was astonishingly corrupt well before the covid jabs.

    Unexplained autism epidemic? Oh, we have no idea, but it's definitely not injecting children without a blood-brain barrier with aluminum and other toxins, dozens of times, there's no way that's the cause!

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  • Tue, Sep 21, 2021 - 4:52pm

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    There is no placebo

    It isn't that they're adding aluminum to the placebo control, it's that the control might be all the extra shit in the vaccine, including the adjuvants like aluminum, just minus the antigen.

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  • Tue, Sep 21, 2021 - 5:13pm

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    Yeah, exactly, so children get sick at the same rate as with the aluminum shots that do include the attenuated pathogen.

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  • Tue, Sep 21, 2021 - 10:58pm

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    Why are "they" pushing the vaccines so hard

    I enjoyed the interview with RFK, Jr., far more than I imagined when I started it.  Considering the politics of the Kennedy family, I was prepared to discount most of what he said.  However, he certainly wove together several threads to create an intricate story.  I might listen to it again.

    However, he never addressed a question that I keep asking myself: Why are "they" pushing the vaccines so hard?  Is it money for Big Pharma?  Is it all about control of our lives?  While one can make a case for public health, I consider this a weak one in view of alternative preventatives and treatments.

    Why are the powers that be so intent on a showdown over the vaccines?

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  • Wed, Sep 22, 2021 - 1:16am

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    banksters don't like angry mobs

    The vaccines give the govt a new way to control the population.

    e.g. -- let's say the Fed and US Govt declare they're resetting the currency -- and wiping away sovereign debt, as well as the corporate debt of any company that has over 100 employees. Will they forgive mortgages, helocs, small business loans? No. We're gonna own nothin'! And like it! Except some people might not like it. They might protest. As with Occupy Wall St. in 2011.

    The most likely explanation is graphene oxide in the 'vaccines' will absorb energy from millimeter wave directed-energy weapons, making the Active Denial System even more effective at dispersing a crowd. Imagine if the bankers could zap any crowd, any where, as long as there's a 5G tower nearby....

     

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  • Wed, Sep 22, 2021 - 2:23am

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    Why are "they" pushing the vaccines so hard

    I'm curious too. Another question: Why not just approve the vaccines, seeing as most people wouldn't care, and make them mandatory for all? Too obvious even to those who were excited to get vaccinated? Can't figure this one out.

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  • Wed, Sep 22, 2021 - 12:42pm

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    The Elephant in the Room

      For people who haven't heard and read the well-documented evidence, what U.S. West Coast radio personality and anti-fascist researcher of over 55 years Dave Emory says here will sound like Looney Tunes. The link is set to open in a new tab:
      I've been following Robert F Kennedy Jr since the H1N1 Swine Flu. I've been following Dave Emory longer than that. As you can hear, Dave believes that there's abundant evidence to show that the United States lost World War II and that a global organization of Third Reich alumni set themselves up in the American Hemisphere, where they'd already established at least one network with the help of Francisco Franco, whom they'd put into power as the eventual fascist dictator of Spain by masterminding the assassination of his political rival in the army and the Falange, the Spanish fascist organization. Dave cites classic American anti-fascist researchers to evidence his historiography which at its basis shows that I G Farben and many of the leading figures in the NSDAP, Hitler's party, set themselves up in exile in the Americas and used the global connections of I G Farben and Nazi-allied German industry gradually to take over the major Western financial institutions. Many of the leading virologists connected with U.S. bioweapons research and research into mind control came from Nazi Germany and Mikado Japan (Group 731), all now long dead, of course. All this research and all their financial infiltration were and are connected one way or other with either the fascist networks centered around Chiang Kai-shek or those centered around the Third Reich in exile. Robert F Kennedy Jr has intuited some of this global web of fascist networks, and this web is the elephant in the room. A synopsis of the above broadcast to which the above audio file is the archive is available at Dave Emory's archive site (where more is accessible), here (opening in a new tab):
      This is only the tip of the iceberg that Dave Emory has spent 55 years uncovering.

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  • Wed, Sep 22, 2021 - 1:37pm

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    Reply to Hladini above regarding Robert F Kennedy Jr's support of the Anthropogenic Global Warming Hoax

    It's extremely frustrating when you've spent five decades researching the evidence. I attended the first Earth Day celebration in 1972 in Boston. There's abundant evidence from the work of extremely well-qualified scientists in climatology and astrophysics that CO2 forcing is far too weak to account for any of the imagined phenomena, which are held up to us backed by doctored evidence and outright lies, anyway. Robert Holmes, PhD Climatology, destroys the dogma that the climate of Venus came about because of a Venutian "Greenhouse Effect", the "discovery" that started the panic over an Earth "Greenhouse Effect" that was the proximate cause for launching Earth Day and the current Neo-Malthusian Movement. Listen to Holmes in a new tab from here:

    I overlook it when its the misunderstanding of a warrior such as Robert F Kennedy Jr, confident that one day he'll come around after we've been able to lift the blanket of censorship from all the critical issues. I think he understands that it would be a disaster to put the brakes on the Industrial Revolution (social-scientifically a single phenomenon). What he does to save the natural habitat isn't the same as ending human evolution and putting us all on the feudal estates of Green Agenda overlords. I'm not being the least facetious, by the way.

    It might surprize you when I tell you I'm a Marxist. The self-described "Marxists" these days are the so-called "Eco-Socialists" (vomit), who don't seem to have a clue that Marx and Engels were almost rabid Anti-Malthusians who valued the Industrial Revolution as the engine of human progress and evolution. Piers Morgan, who's a climatologist and a PhD astrophysicist besides being the brother of the rightful U.K. Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn (equally benighted with belief in the climate hoax), who's interviewed in Marijn Poels' documentary film The Uncertainty Has Settled at length, had some unflattering words there to say about the Eco-Socialists and about the threat that climate panic poses to (in just those words) "the Industrial Revolution". I have Marijn Poels' permission to extract the full interview into a separate YouTube(c) video and post it, but Piers was hit by some con men two months ago who created a bit of a scandal by falsely accusing him of accepting a bribe from them. For that reason, I'm waiting until the "scandal" dies down. This link below will open into a new tab and is my favorite exposé of the panic-mongers, although I detest Andrew Bolt's politics. I'm afraid that's true of almost all the climate realists I know. The great majority are similarly conservatives.

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  • Wed, Sep 22, 2021 - 3:28pm

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    Reply to mkoos2021 above

    I put this to the Belgian virologist and vaccine-developer Dr Geert Vanden Bossche and am waiting for a reply. As a non-professional, I don't want to speculate but it's hard to deny the sincerity of the British physician and the abundant testimonial evidence.

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  • Sat, Sep 25, 2021 - 5:17am

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    Second reply to mkoos2021 above at #18

    After having thought some more about this and viewing it again, I'm certain that it was staged. And I don't know why I didn't realize that before. Objects can be stuck to the skin of "crisis actors" with spray-on glue. The nurse looks suspicious. Why did someone create this fake? In order to have people recommend it in order to discredit them and discredit skepticism in regard to the vaccines. Here it is again (opens in a new tab): https://www.notonthebeeb.co.uk/drt-genocide

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