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    Market Meltdown Update: Is It Over Yet?

    Just because the market has already dropped hard doesn't mean it can't fall further...
    by Adam Taggart

    Friday, March 20, 2020, 10:38 AM

The financial markets have continued falling this week, making this recent crash the fastest plunge into a bear market in history:

Bear market crash chart

We’ve received a lot of questions from PP.com readers over the past few days:

Is the carnage almost over?

What’s going on with this week’s drop in gold, silver and the mining shares?

What should those who have lost a substantial percentage of their savings do now?

For those who were defensively positioned and avoided the plunge, is now the time to start looking at deploying ‘dry capital’?

To answer these questions, I just recorded another brief interview with the lead partners at New Harbor Financial, the financial advisor Peak Prosperity endorses.

While the S&P 500 has now fallen 30% since the February highs, New Harbor’s general portfolio is only down a mere 1%(!) over the same period. THAT’S the power of conservative management and prudent risk mitigation.

In the short video below, they emphasize that it’s not too late to take smart steps with your portfolio against further market downside:

Anyone interested in scheduling a free consultation and portfolio review with Mike and John can do so by clicking here.

And if you’re one of the many readers brand new to Peak Prosperity over the past few weeks, we strongly urge you get your financial situation in order in parallel with your physical coronavirus preparations.

We recommend you do so in partnership with a professional financial advisor who understands the macro risks to the market that we discuss on this website. If you’ve already got one, great.

But if not, consider talking to the team at New Harbor. We’ve set up this ‘free consultation’ relationship with them to help folks exactly like you.

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 11:33am

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    ao

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    they're going down like dominoes - LA, NYC, and now

    Chicago.  All shutting down.  My guess is the whole country is next week.

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 12:15pm

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    Matt Holbert

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    Flights are only 10% lower month-to-date compared to March 2019 month-to-date

    I’ve been tracking flights over Eastern Washington over the past few minutes. Thus far there have been at least 5-6 flights from Dubai, Doha, Paris, and Moscow on their way to Los Angeles and San Francisco. I tracked a Learjet that flew from Spokane to Sitka, Alaska. Someone with a bugout place in a remote spot?

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 1:26pm

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    Ision

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    When You Shut Down States...

    How can we avoid economic chaos, when States, like California shut down…on top of countries, like China and Italy?

    How do we know when to turn all the switches back on?

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 1:28pm

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    Ision

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    V

    That has got to be one of my favorite movies…

    I do not know why, but “Serenity” is also right up there…

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 1:43pm

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    AKGrannyWGrit

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    The Brave One

    It’s not about payback, it’s about accepting a new normal. Check it out.

    2nd – Serenity

     

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 1:50pm

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    Nvcsmith

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    Possible reason?

    An article I read a few days ago said many of the airlines are continuing their flight into major airports in order to maintain the slots that they are allotted or they will lose them. Sorry I don’t have a reference for you. I’m a Medevac pilot myself and on Wednesday I heard ATC ask a Delta pilot why his rate of climb was so high? His reply was that he only had 5 passengers on board so he was light. Blows my mind but I understand why.

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 2:00pm

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    MQ

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    antibodies

    When we can test for antibodies, we will be able to tell who had it and recovered. Those people should then be able to come out of isolation, go back to work, and keep their part of the economy going.  This number will increase as the virus work its way through the population. The most vulnerable would, of course, be in isolation the longest.  This should be an easy, cheap test.

    This is just what I have surmised–those with more knowledge than I please chime in.

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 2:27pm

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    nordicjack

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    I thought the market was stabilizing

    I guess the meltdown is not finished.

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 2:37pm

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    thc0655

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    Definitely not finished

    I took this chart off of ZH. I’m expecting the “”markets”” to roughly follow the pattern of the Great Depression, only worse in some ways. There will be rallies followed by mini crashes but the trend will be inexorably down, down, down.

    “Happy Hunger Games. And may the odds be ever in your favor.”

     

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 2:49pm

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    Dutch Boomer

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    Slots

    I do not know the situation in the US, but this problem is solved in Europe were airliners will keep their slots, even if flight are not maintained. This is a temporary law. At this moment AirFrance-KLM has grounded her fleet…..

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 3:08pm

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    Sparky1

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    Chris' newest video, live now: "Here Comes the "Boom" Stage" (3/20)

    Coronavirus: Here Comes The BOOM! Stage (3/20/20)

    https://youtu.be/yOIvGIukZhk

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 4:21pm

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    drbrucedale

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    Meltdown is just getting started

    If you haven’t watched any of the interviews with Peak Prosperity’s endorsed financial advisors, I suggest you do so.  The market meltdown is probably just getting started. I have had my portfolio with these financial advisors for about four years…anticipating the bursting of the bubble. I am sleeping so well compared to how I was doing at a comparable point in 2008.

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 4:31pm

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    drbrucedale

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    Laughter is Medicine Too

    Friends,

    We need to find reasons to laugh as we go through these times together. So, here are two small contributions.

    For those who may not be familiar with the series “Monk”, the main character is an obsessive/compulsive detective in San Francisco. Illness and germs are among his many obsessions: an excellent role model for these times. 🙂  Monk is available on Amazon Prime.

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 4:46pm

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    thc0655

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    Great interview with Jim Rickards!

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 5:21pm

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    Explanation for low German death toll...

    Word is, the Germans won’t rule in COVID-19 without an autopsy. So without one, they are just marking cause of death as “pneumonia”.

    Poet

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 5:24pm

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    robie robinson

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    Rural Americas moves

    on two things,,, diesel and alcohol. If rural America has fert. seed, (COH) and diesel? you wont starve. oops forgot climate change? the perfect storm?

    pls pray

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 6:29pm

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    PhilH

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    What will the bottom be?

    I’d bet Dow under 15k, maybe as low as 12k

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 6:31pm

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    dreinmund

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    Word is, the Germans won’t rule in COVID-19 without an autopsy. So without one, they are just marking cause of death as “pneumonia”.

    Poet

    Source ?

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  • Fri, Mar 20, 2020 - 7:35pm

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    Michael Frome

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    not slightly

    Started a pool at work today, called DOW Deadpool.  Keeping the humor up.

    I took a bunch of low squares, because I read a WolfStreet article this morning, which shows credit spreads on both BBB and BB bonds have crossed over into Lehman Moment territory.  If (when) those explode, I anticipate a whole lot more blood.  I’m not planning on trying to catch that knife.

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  • Sat, Mar 21, 2020 - 1:39am

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    Eannao

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    Re. Definitely not finished.

    I’d be wary about expecting the markets to follow the same path as the Great Depression. The FED is far more interventionist and aggressive than they were back then.

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  • Sat, Mar 21, 2020 - 3:48am

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    Gerrit de Wit

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    miners

    When the gold/ silver miners are also hit by the lock downs we might expect the stock prices to further slide down. The tail wind because of the lower oil price wont help much if the activities stop.

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  • Sat, Mar 21, 2020 - 1:09pm

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    spiker

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    Pragmatic Prevention

    I found this over at Zerohedge’s header but provide a direct link. Mirrors alot of what has been said here, but in a recapped concise format.  Also, if you print the .pdf to a pdf printer like cutepdf,  you wont need to subscribe to scribd.

     

    https://www.scribd.com/document/452598673/PERSISTENT-DEFENSES-AGAINST-THE-WUHAN-VIRUS-Part-1-Version-1-3#download&from_embed

     

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  • Sat, Mar 21, 2020 - 2:15pm

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    MartinBrown

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    A Contrarian View

    As a serious contrarian I have to point out that CDC and WHO are known to be corrupt. So I normally try to get a sense of what they are selling, and then assume that the opposite is probably true.

    Also, kudos to MQ, above (March 20), for directing our attention to antibodies.

    CDC claims that some of their illness statistics come from antibody testing, but the presence of an antibody means you have already had an illness, processed it naturally, and are now immune for life.
    Consequently, if a person was reasonably young and healthy, it might be a good idea to catch this virus (if you can find it) and then be done with it forever.

    But I suspect the Covid-19 hysteria may simply be a cover-up for something else. Haven’t we all been warned that a great economic crash was inevitable?
    Well, we certainly have our economic disaster, but now we can blame it on a silly virus instead of the people who actually call the shots.

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  • Sat, Mar 21, 2020 - 5:50pm

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    Tom Sammy

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    Will US stock market close?

    Under what scenarios / conditions is a market closure possible ?  (Outside of the circuit breaker rules)

    Last time I recall is 9/11 was closed for 4 days.

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  • Sat, Mar 21, 2020 - 5:53pm

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    Atreat

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    Really useful

    Thanks

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  • Sat, Mar 21, 2020 - 6:23pm

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    goldenDean

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    Military Buildup

    I was just sent this video that was shot outside of Chicago. MANY vehicles headed eastbound. Probably East coast…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxNQ8erWIW4&feature=youtu.be

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  • Sun, Mar 22, 2020 - 9:26am

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    jupura

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    The Man Who Changed the World Forever - and Why Covid-19?

    I want to put all of this in a tiny nutshell for you. It is possible most of the present day problems of our world can mainly be laid at the feet of one word ending in an “ism”: it is not Socialism – Communism – Capitalism .  It is  Consumerism.

    And what is the goal of consumerism?

    To answer this you have to look at how the brain works.  It is hardwired to constantly SEEK, for this is one of its most important survival mechanisms.  Through this “seeking” the brain “finds” what it “believes” to be better environments, tools, skills, nourishments, stories, beliefs, and other people to help the person survive, thrive and procreate.

    Exactly 100 years ago in 1920, a brilliant man realized this and knew how to take advantage of our brain’s universal prime directives. His name is Edward Bernays and he dragged the world down a path to the Promised Land. However, many wise folks in the past century have warned time and time again that at its end there would only be a garbage dump filled with destruction. They were right.

    You probably have never heard of him though he is considered one of the 100 most influential Americans of the 20th century and he is the “father of public relations”.  He is also the nephew of the Doctor Freud.  At the time he saw the real implications behind his uncle’s work and decided to take advantage of it. Edward realized how the brain could be seduced into manipulation – in other words he realized how easy it is to brainwash and make money off the “saps” of the world.

    An example of Edward’s brilliance is a campaign to convince women how vital smoking cigarettes were to staying thin. He convinced them cigarettes were actually “torches of freedom” against male domination. We all know well the success of this crusade.

    Fast-forward to the present and you will find a society where billions (maybe trillions) have been and are still being spent on what can control the mind.  Almost every thought happening in your mind right now is a result of this insidious mind control. This has resulted in a consumer world which is: overpopulated, polluted, environmentally ready for collapse, and is losing forever precious beings of all sorts. And most importantly it is a world of people lost in an abyss of emptiness and misery.

    So let us now revisit the real reason as to why this Covid-19 burst on the scene.  I am going to share a thought which not a single person has mentioned. Nope, not a single article can I find. Maybe because the irony is too terrible or maybe because this is a truth we all have to grapple with everyday. Therefore, we have become blind and cannot “see this forest anymore for the trees”.

    So ask yourself where did this Covid-19 come from? Science states: from bats. It seems the virus jumped from bats into the exotic wild life. Next, we are told how some folks like to eat these exotic animals. Why?  Because some of these people believe it makes them healthy and it also shows off their wealth (yes- that old dog-consumerism).

    As you know so well marketing is really just a small imitation of Mother Nature’s grand marketing abilities.  In the highly competitive field of reproduction to advertise one’s wealth is a potent message to any fertile woman that the host’s genes are supreme above all others.  This is the highest prime directive of the brain – to pass on life and the library of information to the next generation.

    Therefore I submit below the ghastly irony of the Covid-19 pandemic and exactly what is the “forest”.

    The irony which no one wishes to speak of is how the brains of these men grappled on to a falsehood in order to fulfill the prime directive of life-to reproduce, but in so doing this falsehood became the seeds of destruction of so many other lives.

    And the “forest” is: Man must propagate. Man must proliferate and will use any means possible to fulfill this directive even if it hurts and destroys all around Him. The brain seeks any information whether it is true or false to succeed in this quest. Once the brain puts its seal of approval on an idea it is almost impossible edit or remove it from the database (This may be Mommy Nature’s way of keeping us in check).  Consumerism has a hidden message which our brain latches on to with great fervor. The message is: If I consume this idea, product, service then I will survive better, I will thrive better, I will generate myself into the future much better than others.  But this message maybe a lie or it may be the truth. It is very hard for a brainwashed mind to figure it out.

    However, there might be a solution.And maybe…just maybe M. Nature is sending us a message right now:

    Stop and pay attention.

    Focus on the messages the brain is receiving.

    Evaluate the real meanings and motivations behind the message.

    Constantly question and edit the “truths” embedded in our brain.

    Pay attention to what the news programs are really doing to your brain. Watch the hidden messages behind movies, songs and videos.  Notice how advertisements push and prod you into certain behaviors. Every single one of us still has the power to turn off almost all of the messages. Why don’t you do it? Let’s all do it!

    Until we all collectively do this and resist the MIND CONTROL forced on us by others we cannot ascend into a much more sublime societal expression where wisdom prevails and we live in a higher quality of harmony and joy.

    This is my message and if you think you have a choice to believe or not to believe it then know it is probably too late.  These words are now in your brain and you are infected with the truth.

    Pass it on.

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  • Sun, Mar 22, 2020 - 11:02am

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    USA goes from 7,300 new cases yesterday to 14,000 today

    And rising almost by the minute

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  • Sun, Mar 22, 2020 - 11:09am

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    But....same link has good news from Italy

    March 22 (GMT)

    • 5560 new cases and 651 new deaths in Italy: 15% decline in new cases and 18% decline in new deaths with respect to yesterday [source]  [source]

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  • Sun, Mar 22, 2020 - 11:27am

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    Let’s wait to see how to trend panes out over the next five days.

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  • Sun, Mar 22, 2020 - 11:30am

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    Pitt U Biologist Reviews The Published Data - Yikes!

    From late Feb 2020

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  • Sun, Mar 22, 2020 - 11:51am

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    China playbook?

    As Sax player notes above, the US new case total for the day is exploding higher 14,550 as I type. Also 98 deaths. This is reminiscent of the great Chinese definition change with the giant spike in cases and deaths that they had. Although it is interesting that this one today is larger than anything the Chinese ever acknowledged. The claim here will be that this is just catching up on the backlog of previously collected test kits. Strange how it gets pushed through on a Sunday……(sarcasm)

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  • Sun, Mar 22, 2020 - 12:07pm

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    Numbers Artificially Higher Due to This Week's Added Testing

    I believe that the CDC warned the US numbers would be artificially higher this week due to the increased testing but would settle down to a more correct slope on the chart after this weekend. We’ll have to see when Chris does his video how the chart looks.

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  • Sun, Mar 22, 2020 - 12:21pm

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    kunga

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    Spring break

    Beautiful, sunny weekend.  Ain’t anarchy great?!?  It’s all fun and games until somebody ends up in a cone.  I for see state lock down coming very soon.

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  • Sun, Mar 22, 2020 - 12:37pm

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    MSM LIES!!! Says, "Do NOT take a bunch of cash out of the bank because of coronavirus"

    OMG, this article is so replete with lies and misinformation, it is criminal!! Do not trust the banks, FDIC or the Federal Reserve to protect your funds!

    Do NOT take a bunch of cash out of the bank because of coronavirus

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/18/economy/banks-cash-coronavirus/index.html

    The truth, from Lynette Zang:

    “What the FDIC in NOT Telling You”
    “The FDIC deposit insurance scheme was put in place during the “Great Depression” to inspire public confidence in the banking system. In the most current DIF (Deposit Insurance Fund) balance shows they have barely over 1 penny for every dollar of insured deposits. That’s OK as long as there are no bank runs, but during the 2008 crisis, they ran out of money. They stated that had one more bank failed, even a small one, that the public would have become aware that the FDIC was insolvent.”

    “Remember the bail-in laws? As first tested in Cyprus, bail-in is the new global blueprint. Bank stress tests show both Deutsche Bank and Morgan Stanley are insolvent if their assets fall below 3.9% (your deposits are their assets) Do you really feel safe in the banking system?”

    “Why Does This Matter to Me?”
    “Because the global reflation trade created by the central banker’s old tools (interest rates and debt) appear to be used up and the size of the derivative market has exploded making the entire global financial system one big casino with bankers making these bets, which are secured by YOUR wealth. When it gets too expensive to keep things floating, credit will dry up. That’s what happened with the derivative market in 2008.”

    The Hidden Threat of Derivatives, What the FDIC is NOT Telling You by Lynette Zang

    https://www.itmtrading.com/blog/hidden-threat-derivatives-fdic-not-telling-lynette-zang/

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  • Sun, Mar 22, 2020 - 12:49pm

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    And.....It's gone.... well much of it

    Case numbers suddenly fell from the 14,500 level to 8,149 for the day. Deaths up to 112 though.  Everything with large grains of salt…

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  • Sun, Mar 22, 2020 - 1:07pm

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    thatchmo

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    best "cash garage"?

    Assuming it’s a bit late for physical pm aquisition, and given the here-and-now situation, what is the best way to hold: cash, “cash” in bank, or T-bills?  Or something else?  I’ve got a bit of all those, but I’m getting anxious….Thanks, Be well, Aloha, Steve

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  • Sun, Mar 22, 2020 - 1:10pm

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    AKGrannyWGrit

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    New World Planning & Projections

    https://youtu.be/-6CKWa3hBWs

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  • Sun, Mar 22, 2020 - 4:36pm

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    pipefit

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    About a 50% chance of a recession? Kitco interview with Jim Rickards

    The dude thinks there is about a 50% chance of a recession, lol.  He is obviously not in the Milky Way Galaxy.  Perhaps he is from the Andromeda Galaxy, lol!

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  • Sun, Mar 22, 2020 - 4:40pm

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    pipefit

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    Adam, please invite a pension fund expert

    Adam, please invite a pension fund expert to Peak Prosperity.  Your partners are good at what they do, but I and probably other viewers are interested in how many state and private pension funds are ready to collapse.

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  • Sun, Mar 22, 2020 - 4:51pm

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    Sparky1

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    National Guard Activiated for NY, CA, WA

    Trump outlines national guard activations for New York, California and Washington

    “The President has already approved disaster declarations for New York and Washington and said the declaration for California should be approved soon.”

    “Trump also said at the briefing that in addition to supplies, he has instructed FEMA to provide:
    *  Four large medical stations with 1,000 beds to New York
    *  Eight large federal medical stations with 2,000 beds for California
    *  Three small medical stations with 1,000 beds for Washington

    The supplies should be in New York and California within the next 48 hours, Trump said.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-outlines-national-guard-activations-for-new-york-california-washington/ar-BB11y9wu?ocid=spartanntp

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  • Sun, Mar 22, 2020 - 5:11pm

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    Sparky1

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    Chris & Mike Maloney: "The System Just Broke" (Parts 1 & 2) (3/22/20

    The System Just Broke, Part 1: Financial Armageddon Chris Martenson & Mike Maloney

    https://youtu.be/RECCXQ0h_uc

    The System Just Broke, Part 2: Too Late For Gold & Silver? – Mike Maloney & Chris Martenson

    https://youtu.be/4Q1-x8giyoc

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  • Sun, Mar 22, 2020 - 5:14pm

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    Sparky1

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    Chris' newest video: "Here Comes the Panic (From Officials)" (3/22/20)

    Coronavirus: World Leaders Now In Panic Mode (3/22/20)

    https://youtu.be/4qPG4M7Z2Kw

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  • Sun, Mar 22, 2020 - 5:53pm

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    Tatyana Belenkaya

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    Did he mention about something about masks?

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