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    Is Covid-19 Over?

    Is a new surge ahead? Or have we beaten this thing?
    by Adam Taggart

    Wednesday, June 3, 2020, 9:51 PM

Global deaths from covid-19 are on the wane. Most countries and states are starting to remove lockdown restrictions. And now we’re starting to see medical claims that the SARS2 virus is losing potency.

Is the covid-19 pandemic finally over?

Not quite, cautions Chris. Yes, there are encouraging signs that fatalities are slowing, but there are still a lot of unknowns to address before we breathe a sigh of relief. The fact that lockdowns are ending at the same time thousands are coming into close quarters at protests will tell us in just a few weeks how worried we’ll need to be about a resurgence in infections.

Meanwhile, lots of uncertainty continues to swirl around chronic questions like ‘Is HCQ helpful or harmful?” and ‘Does covid-19 have lab origins?’. With each day it seems there’s a new wrinkle released that keeps the skeptics and the believers at odds with each other.

Last, the societal trauma and the resulting inequality the official “rescue” efforts are creating are manifesting in the growing social unrest underlying the recent outbreak of protests and riots across the country. We need to keep our eyes on the true villains in this story — primary among them the Federal Reserve — rather than fighting each other.

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 1:26am

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    planfortomorrow

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    Geez Chris, just drop the Mic...

    ... you are this good.

    I have no comments for everything you spoke of here and are my conclusions also and my opinion to date has been centered on everything you have covered over the last 125 days (12 years) or so. Easily I have determined that until the Fed does something that doesn't work to mask over our predicament, that this could, as it did in 2009, cause the ""Market"" to rise ever further. Greedily I imagine another 12 years like the last 12 years, why not?

    Trump says a better 3rd quarter and 4th quarter are upon us and I believe him.

    The gains of the last 51 (work days) days according to my spread sheet has been ridiculously high in spite of everything we shake our heads at, are profits that could buy much more in precious metals with the profits in the market that these metals have not come close to matching during the same time period makes my decision simply a good guess, a risk taken from the bottom,  before the markets open fully and we can actually then determine where the economy is. Where we land will be profitable until then and I don't think much in the way of a risky adventure. There will be new businesses that come from this set back, and to help cause a new run to what we lost when the economy closed.

    Folks, I don't apologize that I have accumulated some wealth, it was brought about by the DO NOT fight The Fed/follow the money disciplines and it hasn't failed those of us who have kept to the script. Obviously the risk has worked out but just as obvious is that for me its acceptable risk because over and over when things looked dicey a 4am movement has been made to cause the algorithms to kick in and take the market higher. At this juncture I believe the Fed really needs to step up their game to show that we are in fact headed into a new Bull Market run. They need to establish their control here, not lose any ground to what they have done in the last 12 years or more. To do so would be to risk all the cash they so far have spent into the market to keep this beast running.

    I believe that many positive spins will all rear their heads to show we are headed into a strong recovery. Stats like 40 million unemployed will soon adjust to 17 Million unemployed will give the market reason to celebrate but it was an easy call anyways, the country was still in lockdown mode and are now open for business. This alone will cause all the data to quickly reset. What I'm looking forward to is the announcement that this Virus is NOT in control any longer and that we collectively can look to a future again where the unemployment numbers slowly but surely falls off to 15, 13, 19, 8, possibly a weekly event that charges the collective phycology of the market and when looking out the next 3/6/9 months and because its very early in our restart that all boats will be lifted by the massive infusion of cash that WILL help those who have invested in this market to grow their portfolio. I'm not hopeful at all, I believe The Fed will create a lot my time for our economy to possibly pull off a miracle. Don't forget that the world is printing so much too, Europe, China, all the major currency's. The dollar is falling and that helps too the commercial end of things. Debt paid in dollars will support our markets and help the dollar denominated debt to be paid and not bankrupted on. It looks so good from my perch, then again I am optimistic but thinking clearly of the over all picture too. I think anyways and that's all that matters. I can live with loses if there my loses. Oil is going much higher if the dollar continue to drop. It could be in how we finance things that delay defaults. Maybe 50 year or 100 year debt instruments. Maybe a massive rebuild to an electric economy, 5G, etc...I just know that time has a way of taking care of things.

    I am not an MIT grad or any such things, I just work very hard, happily, every day. I read and research all day and I love it. Absolutely love learning whatever I can so I feel I can make a case for any subject, just wing it off the top of my head. I also follow my gut above everything and it serves me well. Nothing is a boast. My God no, it's just simply work and my gut. If I offend anyone then I'm sorry but I really am to thick skinned to care unless your words teach me that I should adjust my thinking. People like Dave, Jim H, hell, quite a few of you give me something every day that I either agree with or take from your spin and it helps me see better. I wish you all well, good luck however you choose to get where you're going. I'm going with my Lady and she is all I ever care about. My success is hers. I will NOT ever let her down. I need her, trust here and still want to spend all my time with. I already have in place our home, a food source and a good community of friends. Now, I am simply working so that I can leave something very important to our family. I am certain they will need all that we have created and by the energy they have expended helping us that they believe this too. They know the routines of our day and see that if you just do what is needed to do that the land will feed you, warm you, and give you a life that is so rewarding. I love all that we do. We lived in a farming community, my son's learned hard work, farming work, working for their friends Dad's. In many respects they are right there with me in creating what we have. I'm a visual person, high energy and I do the layout. Everything else is basically to enrich the soil and do the maintenance so that when we start to plant out, the plants are growing as soon as the roots get set in the soil. This year we will have my wife's greenhouse and it has already served us well  and now when we plant, next week, we will have hardened and strong plants going into the soil just yards outside her greenhouse. This will be the most fun.

    I wish you all your happiness. PEACE

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 2:01am

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    French connexion

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    Getting to the bottom of this

    Thank you Chris for your hard work. Some time ago I posted (in French) an interview with Professeur Montagnier where he predicted in a television interview exactly what you have said in today's video. He predicted the sequence that was added to the SARSCoV2 genome was a man-made addition from the HIV (Aids) to make it bind better to humans - that because it was not "natural" meaning existing in nature - eventually the add-on squence would get "rejected" (my words here) and the virus would become less contagious.

    VIH in French is HIV

    Sida in French is AIDS

    https://twitter.com/cnews/status/1251080850562834432

    Personally I find this whole  story disgusting. I simply asked Google for Montagnier plateau de televison - giving me three videos - I attached the twitter feed. You can get the entire video by clicking on the link provided by Twitter - where he talks about the man-made add-on would eventually be rejected by nature.

    What I find disgusting is the facebook copy of the same video prevents you from seeing the video - saying that there are false accusations in the video. Big Brother is watching after us to protect us - I feel totally reassured.

    As for your charts Chris. I wish someone of your stature would some day please join me in my assertion that Gold, Silver (I don't follow BitCoin) get knocked down each and every day when they out-perform stocks - SP500. I follow this almost every day - anyone can follow this on Investing.com - you will see that should Gold futures be up +0.24% as it is right now 11am Paris time (6 hours ahead of New York) and SP500 futures be down 0.35% - that TPTB will work the two markets so that stocks catch up and gold slows down. Quite a game.

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 2:54am

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    French connexion

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    HIV added

    Here is the entire interview which starts at 51min30

    His statement you will find at 1hr18

    OMS = WHO

    Dear Chris,  I would like to add that after your video where you presented genomes and the way they mute or evolve - you stated quite clearly that a natural evolution would be that the virus would become "worse" in a sense - if it became milder it would contribute to its own extinction. Well this whole COVID-19 thing is perhaps driving me nuts - the same night I woke up and started thinking using your logic and that of Dr Montagnier that if the virus was an unnatural fabrication then the mutation would cause it to lose the human added part - its binding element.

    https://www.cnews.fr/emission/2020-04-17/lheure-des-pros-du-17042020-947840

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 4:16am

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    summitday113

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    What IS a fair wealth distribution?

    There is lots of ranting about how current wealth distribution is unfair. But I haven't heard anything about what is fair. Curious what others thoughts are?

    Also, I literally face-palmed in my car when I heard the news that the stock market went up the day after I was watching rioters and looters swarm through Midtown Manhattan destroying iconic landmarks like Macy'z.

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 4:38am

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    David McKenney

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    Just wait

    Just wait until the public finds out that this virus was "made" and that a cheap and safe drug was deliberately withheld by lies so that certain outfits could profit. India, the place where people pile all over each other has .6 deaths/million. We have 167.

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 4:57am

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    Best podcast yet ...a must watch

    Chris’ hypothesis that an unstable man-made mutation might be changing as it ages is absolutely worth exploring. I always considered that this thing would be stable or mutate into a more lethal form. To just have an alternative concept, that it could be unstable and have a tendency to revert back to it’s less virulent natural form, is fascinating. As always....will wait for data and proof.

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 5:22am

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    Didier's Twitter

    https://twitter.com/raoult_didier/status/1268115704311689218

    The house of cards collapses. Translation from his Twitter

    I have always liked the expression: He who laughs last, laughs loudest.

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 6:31am

    planfortomorrow

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    planfortomorrow said:

    David, just wait until they hear it was Dr. Fauci, yes, our Dr. Fauci who paid Wuhan to make the changes to the virus. I know I'm out of my mind with that thought. How do people live with themselves, speak still with such concern when their responsible. Yikes!!!

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 7:17am

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    Coronavirus at maximum level of intensity, says minister as cases near 100,000

    Coronavirus at maximum level of intensity, says minister as cases near 100,000

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 8:24am

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    VeganDB12

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    tourism season in the northern hemisphere may influence opinions

    "The government is urging caution as the country prepares this week to restart travel: the next big step in easing the national lockdown imposed three months ago."

    https://www.thelocal.it/20200601/row-breaks-out-over-italian-doctors-claim-virus-no-longer-exists

     

    The doctor making the claims of a safer virus is Mr. Berlusconi's personal physician.  I worry they are grasping at straw to drum up tourism which is obviously a major source of income in Italy (and Mexico).

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 8:31am

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    PeakDoog said:

    Hi, new here. I'm glad to see that I'm not alone thinking that the virus has HIV parts, is  like an airbone with-aids-alike-characteristics.

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 10:53am

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    Zipper99

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    Covid unstable?

    Hi, been following for months, first time posting. Could the following article explain why Covid may be losing potency?? Basically the article (written pre-coved) describes how an engineered virus with inserted sequences can be unstable at those insertion points.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6855363/

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 10:53am

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    Regarding fair wealth distribution

    Well one thing is for sure, the direction we are headed at light-speed is not good for a society.  In history, this pattern has been repeated with disastrous effects.   So, what is fair?  something much more equal than that which we have now.  Perhaps something that we had in the US before 1975?   maybe 1955?     I would think anything where the majority of the people have the majority of the wealth.  The middle 50% have half the wealth.. ?   would look more like this  the middle guy has $5 - then for every guy that has $6 , one would have $4 and so on until for every guy with $10, one guy has $1.

    what it looks like now is for every 100 guys with $1 we have 1 guy with $1000.   But worse even when we get more to the middle we have 50 guys with $10 for for ever 2 guys with $500.   Not really getting healthier even when we get to the top 15% earners maybe 175k per year ,  the wealth for these people is more like $50 each to those few guys with $500 and $1000 each.

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 12:58pm

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    Researchers Retract Study Linking Malaria Pill to Heart Risk

    Researchers Retract Study Linking Malaria Pill to Heart Risk
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-04/researchers-retract-lancet-study-linking-malaria-drug-to-risks

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 1:23pm

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    A couple of more news items re: SC2 origin

    There have been a couple of significant developments in recent days. Last Friday, 5/29/2020 the Chinese CDC changed its line on the possible origin saying that the Huanan Seafood Market is no longer suspected "jumping site" of the virus to humans. It has been reclassified from a "potential source" to a "super-spreader" site.

    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/chinese-cdc-now-says-coronavirus-224900090.html

    Yesterday, the former MI6 director Richard Dearlove announced that he now believes the SC2 virus is man-made and that it escaped from the Wuhan lab. (The interview was with The Telegraph but the article is behind a pay-wall).

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8386235/Coronavirus-man-says-ex-head-MI6-Sir-Richard-Dearlove.html

    So it's beginning to look a lot like the BS on the coronavirus origin has run its course.

    Best, Jiri

     

     

     

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 2:33pm

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    moheli said:

    The need for a vaccine against Covid19 is strongly diminished if there exists a cheap and very effective treatment. Why would one go through the risk of playing guinea pig for a hasted vaccine if you can wait for the first symptoms to show up and knock down the virus by swallowing a couple of pills for a few days with low to no side effects for a crushing majority of people. For some famous vaccine pushers with a major incluence on the MSM,  HCQ+Azy+Zinc is a very inconvenient killjoy...

     

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 3:37pm

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    The Lancet retraction - at last!

    And here it is ... https://www.thelancet.com/lancet/article/s0140673620313246   I've been receiving abuse on Facebook for attempting to defend HCQ against the appalling attacks based on appalling 'science' ... I wonder if those people on the attack will now go quiet, or will they just find another bad bit of science to justify their belief that it must be bad because Trump said it was useful? Personally, I'm not a Trump supporter, but politics should have no bearing on the science! If anyone spots the WHO or Fauci retracting their bias against HCQ, please do let me know ... though I suspect Hell may freeze over before that happens!

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 5:06pm

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    "Don't Test, Don't Tell" is back??

    I just spoke to a friend in Southern California who's been feeling ill the last few days. He has a 101 degree fever, rash everywhere, and severe shortness of breath. He called 911, and an ambulance came to take him to the ER. I have no way of knowing whether my friend has a case of covid-19, but the evidence does suggest that he might have.

    At the hospital, they took a blood test (but not a nasopharyngeal swab!) and they told him they think he has some sort of virus, but not covid-19. They sent him away to find his own ride home, so that he could have the opportunity to infect his driver.

    If they were using the blood sample to test for SARS-cov2 antibodies, then of course that's completely wrong. Since he's only been sick a few days, it's highly unlikely he would have developed any antibodies yet.

    I had thought that since the bad early days of March, our national testing strategy had completely turned around. The official story is that we're trying to test all the suspected cases and track down their contacts. Right? But apparently the reality is, we're back to a "don't test, don't tell" strategy, and sending likely cases back into the world. If my friend worked at a supermarket, auto factory or meat packing plant, he'd be back on the job.

    I suppose it's possible that my friend just encountered an unusual ER situation, or even that there was something about his presentation that convinced the docs he wasn't a covid case.

    But that doesn't seem very likely to me. And, I'm not buying that covid-19 is over just yet.

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 5:50pm

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    The Study Retraction

    The question still remains.

    How did this get published in the first place?

    Why was (apparently) no peer review or editorial review done on such an obviously flawed article?

    To me, that is the bigger story than the retraction.

    Will anyone in any branch of the media (corporate or alternative) address this issue?

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 6:17pm

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    Retraction!

    Take a bow, Chris.  Chalk one up for the Scientific Method vs. sloppy groupthink 'journalism".

    The absence of proof is not the proof of absence.

    Or, if I remember correctly from 9th grade Geometry, "If a then b; therefore, if not b, then not a." Correct.

    "Socrates is a man; therefore, all men are Socrates."  Not bloody likely.

    I may be mixing my metaphors, but our current clueless correspondents likely wouldn't pass the above tests.  At least their spellcheckers will get their wrong words looking right.  And their jobs depend on not understanding?

    We live in an age of pervasive propaganda, and it usually prevails.  What did you expect from the Age of the Internet?  That truth would prevail?  Ha ha. No, control has been seized by many bad actors, on both or multiple sides, and they're smarter at it than I'll ever be.

    But at least there was enough scientific appreciation for logic sloshing around 60 years ago in the Sputnik era for some of us to be able to smell a rat today.  Sad about those others.

    A logical failure fries your astronauts in their capsule.  A comma in place of a semi-colon sends your planetary probe 200 million miles off course.  A false medical conclusion, well...

    Costa Rica still reporting but 10 lives lost.

    It will be a curiosity to find who was behind this, if it was not just a blind accident.  Sometimes, egoistic dumbassery explains a lot.

     

     

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 7:02pm

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    nordicjack

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    dont test ,dont tell - wtf

    Jerry,

    I am not sure what the heck is going on there - but i would have your friend lawyer up right now , before he gets too sick..  sounds like he is about to have a severe case.   And this hospital dumps him to infect others..

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 7:15pm

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    Re: Covid unstable?

    Great find.

    Although I'm not sure that the 12 base insert that gives us "PRRA" qualifies as a long enough insert of be unstable out in the wild?  Maybe.  I'll have to dig through some of the references in the paper to chase down the length requirements.  But it's a good place to start.

    Thanks.

     

     

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 7:21pm

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    Lancet retraction and my latest video

    Well, there wasn't any doubt that the paper needed retracting.  The Fraud was magnificently obvious.

    I did wonder, though, if it would be retracted.  We're living in crazy times.  Police are facing protests in part over their harsh tactics and many departments are choosing to react quite harshly.  The Fed is facing the worst stock bubble in all of history and it is choosing to push that bubble further each day.

    In other words, 'doubling down' is a modern day trait for the cornered, it seems.

    At any rate, today's video is out, and in it I cover the retraction (and another one that is sure to come, this one over the Ivermectin data also brought to us by Sapan Desai aka "Mr Piltdown."

     

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 7:22pm

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    reliability of coronavirus negative results>?

    Hi all you good people,

    So far self isolating has been working for me but am in an interesting situation now:

    1. my daughter (30) was in a very serious depression and her dad invited her to visit him and his wife, who live in on a relatively isolated Western WA island
    2. right after after daughter arrived on Monday May 25, her step-mom started feeling sick
    3. Step-mom eventually developed a fever of 102, very bad sore throat, feeling extremely bad, tons of mucus but no dry cough.  My understanding is she's been mainly staying in her bedroom. She's starting to feel better now.
    4. She finally went for a coronavirus test on Tuesday and just got the results (negative) on Thursday (today)
    5. Daughter is planning to visit me starting tomorrow or Saturday for a couple of days before going back to L.A.
    So my question is how definitive are the coronavirus tests and how careful do we need to be when she is visiting? I don't have time to delve back into all the posts in this short window of time before she comes.

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 7:31pm

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    Real Issue with retraction and shoddy study.

    Is this fraud criminal?   how is this not reckless?  How is there no threat of jail or imprisonment for this kind of fraud?

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 7:58pm

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    I would love

    Love.

     

    LOVE.

     

    Love for it to be true that the virus is unstable and is becoming rapidly less lethal, but that seems like too much to hope for. Someone capable of explaining, please, let me know how we can confirm this hypothesis. If I have to choose between "numbers going down because virus is unstable" or "numbers going down because governments are increasingly hiding the real numbers," I know to which I will more readily subscribe.

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 8:04pm

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    Jerryr, re: your sick friend

    Hi Jerry, I'm not a doctor but here's what I would do in your circumstance: I would strongly urge your friend to contact his primary care physician (PCP) immediately or their on-call back-up if not available. He should describe his symptoms and any pre-existing health issues, and emphatically request that he be tested for Covid-19 asap.

    The doctor can call in the testing order to the hospital, or to a local lab/urgent care office, or maybe even to the public health department. Your friend should call ahead to any office/provider so they can have him enter and be tested away from others not in PPE.

    Your friend should assume he has Covid-19 and take all appropriate precautions:  wearing PPE (goggles, N-95 mask preferable w/o vent (cover vent w/tape if needed, gloves, sanitizer used liberally and often); maintaining 6 ft. distance from others at minimum if possible; decontaminating himself, clothes, shoes (left outside of residence), disinfecting surfaces regularly; self-isolation from others and activities. Depending on how severe his symptoms become, he may need to have someone assist him. That person(s) needs to wear PPE and take precautions as well.

    It'll take on average about 2 days in California to get test results back, I believe. In the meantime, your friend and his PCP should be monitoring and managing his symptoms, possibly remotely (e.g., telemed) with clear instructions if there are any changes that indicate need for higher level care and what to do in that instance.

    While your friend is still mentally and physically able, he should discuss options to get a sense of the doctor's recommended plan of care while awaiting test results, (e.g., lots of fluids, rest, sleep, Elderberry syrup, vitamins D3, B12, C, no Ibuprofen) and if the test results come back positive  (e.g., early administration of HCQ + Azithromycin "Z-pak?" + Zinc; vitamins D3, B12, C, no Ibuprofen) or negative (retest? vitamins, symptom management). I've seen estimates here and elsewhere that, depending on the test, they can be inaccurate 40% or more of the time. A positive test result may be needed in order to access certain treatment options and trigger health insurance coverage.

    There are many others here within the PP community that are better informed than I am on this. I hope they chime in with their suggestions and corrections to any suggestions I've made. Information re: blood pressure and blood oxygen levels, as well as the HCQ treatment protocol, and use and dosage of vitamins and supplements might be especially helpful.

    You may also fast-forward through some of Chris' YT videos in which he lists towards the end of a few "what he's doing" slides that detai treatment and supplement dosages he'd follow to boost his immune system to avoid getting Covid-19, or if he does get it.

    You're right to be concerned, Jerry. I hope your friend gets the care he needs and recuperates from his illness quickly and with no lasting damage.

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 8:06pm

    Island girl

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    In the news now, but downplayed

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52929916

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 8:09pm

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    The Wuhan Re-tests

    I was wondering how that mass testing in Wuhan went. I found this article. It seems they found 300 positives though, as far as I can tell, they haven't included those in the official numbers. They also traced contacts of those who tested positive and didn't find any more. All of the positives were asymptomatic, so perhaps that's why they weren't included. There is also the possibility that they were false positives (which might explain the lack of cases in their contacts), though all cases and all contacts were quarantined.

    They got through so many tests (covering almost 10 million people) by using batch testing, testing up to 5 at a time, then retesting those individually if a positive was found for the batch. This is a good technique for testing large numbers of people in a short space of time.

    Oddly, the article seems to suggest that authorities are assuming that this single run of tests proves that there is no longer any risk in Wuhan. Odd because testing only means that someone doesn't have detectable virus (assuming no false negatives) at the time of the testing. It could develop later or be imported by an opening economy.

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 9:07pm

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    The Prophylaxis Study

    Chris, a few times you mentioned that the study design meant that having a cough was interpreted as your having Covid-19. However, you had previously shown that the design also included the "AND" phrase of their being no alternative more likely explanation, but you didn't seem to mention this again. I would say that simply having a cough did not mark a participant as having Covid-19. Presumably, the researchers tried to tease out whether that reported cough could have a more likely explanation. So that wouldn't have been quite as bad as you kept making it out to be (similarly for other symptoms).

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  • Thu, Jun 04, 2020 - 9:45pm

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    Covid getting less transmissible-Have not seen any data to support this hypothesis

    There may be evidence of less transmissibility, but I haven't seen it reported in the literature yet. I welcome anyone sending me a paper that describes it.

    The early nucleotide mutation in the Wuhan strain of virus caused stabilization of the receptor-binding domain in the Spike protein making it more transmissible.

    The G-to-A base change at position 23,403 in the Wuhan reference strain was named the "G clade" and has now mostly taken over the US and Europe.

    -In EARLY MARCH this D614G Spike mutation was found  in 7/183 sequences,
    -4/7 first D614G strains were sampled in Europe, + 1 each in Mexico, Brazil, and Wuhan.
    - “G” CLADE-> In 5/7 cases, D614G was accompanied by 2 other mutations: a silent C-to-T mutation in nsp3 gene at position 3,037, +  C-to-T mutation at position 14,409 which results in a RNA-dependent RNA polymerase (RdRp) amino acid change (RdRp P323L). Combination of 3 mutations forms the basis for the clade in Europe.
    -Mid-March “G” clade -> D614G now ~ 29% of the global samples, almost exclusively in Europe.  Pachetti et al. 2020 found in Europe + absent from regions globally.

    A good lay article-https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8204255/There-THREE-separate-types-coronavirus.html

    Another preprint showed the G clade had increased.
    -April sampling from GISAID showed G614’s frequency was increasing at an alarming pace.    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.069054v1

    Luc Montagnier has a great preprint where he goes into great detail about the possible lab insertions of  EIEs (Exogenous Informative Elements) https://osf.io/d9e5g/

    (The Chinese patent for the SARS vaccine tells us how and what pshuttle-SN they used to get the info into the adenovirus.) Here’s the nucleotide sequence at NCBI’s Nucleotide database- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/AY862402.

    Here’s a patent for its use in recombination virology. https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2005117961A1/en

    There is a whole field of study showing that genetic material amino acid and Nucleotide sequences exhibit fractal waves.  Synthetic or even natural insertions reinserted by man-lack these fractal waves such as the Fibonacci series.

    “Mathematical Model for the Genetic Code(s) Based on Fibonacci Numbers and their q-Analogues”

    file:///C:/Users/infoe/Downloads/WuhanandSARSCoronavirusperezrelease7perez.pdf

    I had seen other papers on SARS showing that over time- the "possible synthetic elements are deleted and the fractal waves are optimized.  Nature will try to eliminate those areas that do not vibrate at the proper frequency. That gives me hope that this virus will try to eject some of those EIE’s and become less infective.

     

     

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  • Fri, Jun 05, 2020 - 12:57am

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    cool clarktech but how about other course?

    "I had seen other papers on SARS showing that over time- the "possible synthetic elements are deleted and the fractal waves are optimized.  Nature will try to eliminate those areas that do not vibrate at the proper frequency. That gives me hope that this virus will try to eject some of those EIE’s and become less infective."

    - sounds bit pseudo to me, im not a virologist but as far as I know, the evolution is statistical phenomena, not conscious process, would it not be logical to assume that the most transmissable or replicable mutations will prevail over time? Therefore, nature indeed finds a way, to your cell, even more

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  • Fri, Jun 05, 2020 - 3:01am

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    evawatson said:

    No, Covid-19 Its Not Over yet. But we have to follow the instructions , have to use prevention for safety.
    Like use One Gallon Hand Sanitizer for keeping the hands safe.

    on the Other hand, Rapid Test Kit for coronavirus is still doing great by helping our doctors.

    We all are have to be in unity.  Say No Racism also.

     

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  • Fri, Jun 05, 2020 - 5:55am

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    Possible Lancet retraction

    https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/04/lancet-retracts-major-covid-19-paper-that-raised-safety-concerns-about-malaria-drugs/

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  • Fri, Jun 05, 2020 - 9:16am

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    Any interpretations from worldometer data?

    Daily new cases seems to be steadily creeping up.  Daily deaths down from the peak maybe leveling.

    Maybe the deaths are leveling off because those most vulnerable died quickest.  Daily cases still creeping up is disturbing because we're close to NH summer solstice which I would have wanted to slow down infections.  Anyone have ideas?

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  • Fri, Jun 05, 2020 - 9:47am

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    Deaths rate reducing

    Just a thought. Is the death rate of those infected and being hospitalized reducing because the medical community is learning by experience what seems to work and ,more importantly, what definitely does not work.  From a  retired medical contact, he thought that the medical professionals on the front line through the "jungle telegraph" were modifying their treatment protocols - eg avoiding ventilation if at all possible, now using blood thinners etc.  Avoiding medical protocols which have found to be harmful will result in itself in a reduction in the death rate.

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  • Fri, Jun 05, 2020 - 9:56am

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    Communist Influence 2020

    From The murder of George Floyd

    Summary of the socialist and communist influence on events June 2020

    Notes from “Goal Behind Pre-Marxist Revolution Riots of 2020?” Youtube

    My comments in parenthesis.

    (Mary, Our Lady, appeared in Fatima and said,

    ‘If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world,…”

    See the Addendum below.)

    Tactics:

    Use Pressure from above, pressure from below

    See Saul Alinsky: “Change comes from conflict.”

    Change is actually codeword for Revolution. 

    (Even if no political change is made, the country can be weakened and morale destroyed. Just embarrassing the rule of law and the country is enough.)

    One Plan is to: 

    Redistribute the wealth by a shakedown

    Use Blackmail psychological warfare

    Get More money 

    Like the mafia shakedown tactics, or the Chicago mob

    Alinsky learned tactics from Chicago mob, FRANK NITTI and al Capone.

    Another plan is to agitate for a civil war and revolution from groups like Antifa and Black lives matter. Muslims and marxists together.

    Agenda put together from Alinsky’s principles, and communists and socialists:

    Bring Terror in middle class and free market principles so they think

    “Biden will bring peace” with a black vp

    They were Getting ready under Obama. Now unleashing it. 

    Abbot Luce:

    See former communist Abbot Luce in the 1960s

    “All of us as good communists were responsible for some work in the riots and each of us longed for the possibility that Harlem would herald the beginning of a nationwide war.”

    Stochley Carmichael :

    See Stochley Carmichael 1966 urged blacks “to fight the police and burn the city. “Stochley friends with Castro. Learned urban guerrilla tactics in Cuba. 

    “In Newark, we applied the tactics of the guerrillas”

    “America has to come around or black people are going to burn it down.”

    Stochley Honorary leader of the black panthers 

    Off the pigs, give whites a little taste of chaos, kill the honkies.

    The Narrative is racism. 

    Stochley friends with Howard Zin.

    See Howard Zin, wrote textbook used as supplemental reading.  communist influence on the education of youth. Stochley Received money from and friends with Loius Farrakan 

    Lomax said on the Detroit riots, this is the plan:, burn and destroy “an organized group, operating in the city For more than a month, largely from outside the Detroit area, an assignment, burn and destroy. revolutionaries committed to the conclusion that America… Does not have the moral fiber to repent for socio economic sins.  … Leave the nation in ashes.

    The principal U.S. cities have been chosen as the battleground because [there will be] cooperation by the innocent and uninformed. 

    Louis Lomax, reporter, 1967

     Compare to manipulation of uninformed today.

    Agenda:

    It is easy to see their agenda. Read the enemies literature for decades. Communist agenda since the 1950s:

    “Stir black hatred toward the police force. “ Make a black person be angry.

    Plan by communists in their documentation is stir up for decades using racial agitation since 1950s.  to use a beating of a black to march on the police station and start chaos. See Denver communist literature.

    Regarding the current violence beginning in Minnesota:

    Why Minnesota?

    Mark Froemke is  Head of Minnesota - Dakotas Communist party 

    He is Very Influential: see pictures of him with Amy Clobetcha (sp?) Hugging  Mark Dayton governor of minnesota,  senator al franken and others

    Well Connected in Democrat Farmer Party that runs Minnesota Dems.

    Why do the communists have such power in Minnesota?

    The Czar cracked down on the bolshevik revolution in Russia which failed 1905-1912  and thousands of communists from Finland came to iron mountain range in northern Minnesota. The countryside is similar to Finland. They Created  the Farmer Labor Party as a front. This made the DFL. These Finnish farmers have been communist Left for a long time. They have worked hard to make Marxist mayors, etc in  Mineapolis st Paul for example Donald frasier, 

    Left wing culture built in Minnesota. The minnesota democrats Welcomed somalis, muslims, as reliable left wing voters. 

    Communists have Headquarters to spread the revolution, and centers of the communists in the united states are in Minnesota, New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, Michigan, California. Gus Hall came from Minnesota, ran for president.

    Unions:

    Unions are also at fault, union money, because they changed their policy to open up borders and have more communist principles, …

    Unions were run by anti communists until 90s. They saw that Lower wages and conditions came from communists and opening borders., Against illegal immigration. Then the Marxists put John Sweeney in control of AFL-CIO, so then there was no more ban on communists, now promote a leftist agenda.

    And so you control the Democratic Party if you control the unions. Some unions are communist controlled. Revolution comes first.

    So those Union members Send $10 to the communists every month unknowingly. 

    Question: Why are the police allowing this? Because of the City Council? Mayor? 

    Look at history. In Philly and Chicago the mayor didn’t like communist rioters. They stopped them and prosecuted the Chicago 7.

    Now the police are stopped by politicians.

    Today, at the Riots in Berkely boston, New York , Richmond va, police told to stand down, or have a weak response.

    Why? So that the middle class will OK big government and  more taxation. Furthermore, Eventually the government will topple because of debt.

    Note that in Fergeson, and today, they are Burning black businesses as well. EG black firefighter who made a restaurant that was burned. Communists and socialists Do not want to see successful blacks. For them, they need angry bitter blacks who vote democrat. In Fergeson Missouri many black businesses suffered and were wiped out. They are thought of as Uncle Toms. 

    What is next? 2020 DNC conventions, RNC convention, 

    Chinese Maoist will probably sponsor the march on DNC. They will go after republicans…

    This summer may include Bombing, assassination, killing, unless resolute action, federal intervention in the states controlled by the left/communist/socialist axis.

    The mayors and governments of Portland, Oakland, Berkley, will not do anything. Need resolute action. The federal or state authorities will have to “invade our own cities. “

    Communists have us where they want us. Set up. Conservatives will have to implement federal control. True conservatives hate excessive governmental control. We are Damned if we do nothing, and damned if we fight back.

    The left has Set up the middle class. Trouble if don’t fight back, trouble if do. In this case, it is Better to fight back, or the cities will burn all the way up to elections. Be Resolute and firm now. or this will go On and on. 

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  • Fri, Jun 05, 2020 - 9:57am

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    Communist Influence 2020

    From The murder of George Floyd Pt 2

    Summary of the socialist and communist influence on events June 2020

    Look at how the Weather Underground in Ohio was  Penetrated by Larry Grathwohl, …, look at the work of Bill Ayers. 

    William (Bill) Charles Ayers (born Dec. 26, 1944) is a former leader of the terrorist Weather Underground and an associate of President Barack Obama. …According to a federal indictment, a smaller group, Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Linda Evans, Erik Mann, Howard Machtinger, Diana Oughton and Mark Rudd, met secretly in Flint on December 30, 1969 at the Parish House of Sacred Heart Convent to set up a central committee. It was modeled after Lenin’s democratic centralism. The Weather central committte was to direct underground bombings nationwide from New York, Chicago, Detroit and Berkeley aimed at police, military, university and commercial targets. There was also talk of assassinations. The Liberation News Service reported, “Part of armed struggle, as Dohrn and others laid it down, is terrorism. Political assassination… and… violence…were put forward as legitimate forms of armed struggle.[4].”

    Look at Bernadine Dohrn, who worked with Michelle Obama.

    “Ayers and Dohrn are well-known.. As Kurtz relays it in a recent interview: In 1970, Ayers, along with wife Dohrn, were indicted for inciting a riot and conspiracy to bomb government buildings. Dohrn was convicted; Ayers was not. However, Ayers remains unrepentant, telling The New York Times in 2001, "I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough." As Kurtz reports, Ayers and his cohorts bombed the Pentagon as part of his anti-war activities.

    Bill Ayers, became Vice President for Curriculum Studies by the American Educational Research Association in 2008 promoting a 

    Social Justice curriculum with Large influence. The curriculum , was written by Bill Ayrs, along with ideas paraphrased like this : “free market is racism, “

    History: Over 30 bombings by Weather Underground, 

    Apparently the Obamas and Ayers had Dinner together almost every night for 10 years. 

    60s socialism was a radical revolution of a few, but they spread poison, through universities, high schools, for more than 40 years increasing the number of those who unthinkingly use their thinking and methods.

    Look at the Missouri meeting of Mark Ritchie and others with Mark Froemke, head of the Minnesota communists.

     Attorney General Mark Ritchie did a Recount again and again to get Al Franken elected. They found votes in a trunk…

    Franken gave the last vote to get Got Obamacare through.

    America is under Siege. … from a Marxist islamic revolution.

    Mayor of Minneapolis Frey came from Virginia as a community organizer…

    “Community organizing” is basically communist agitation. They complain about “Decades of systemic racism…” but not doing anything about violence.

    This current situation is the Fault of 60 years of marxist agitation, poor education, slack enforcement.

    Minnesota Governor Tim Walz Trained at Wellstone school which uses marxist principles. Wellstone was close to the Marxists of Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) 

    Blames whites, middle class. “Change comes from conflict.”

    Attorney General Kieth Ellison is an AntiFa supporter, Been to Saudi Arabia, connected to Iran…

    Connected to many leftists/socialists… including DSA, fund raises in home of communist party leader in Minn. 

    All this means that Socialists and communists Can get away with riots in Minnesota. Attorney General Kieth Ellison “We have heard your message loud and clear” is not best response. Political criminals allow people to be killed and businesses destroyed.

    Tactics: Blame the victims. Leadership in Minnesota is socialist, communist, 

    Destroy business, even kill people and allow them to be killed, create terror and fear. Ordinary people still will vote democrat out of fear. Middle class attacked From both sides in the middle.

    - Most Americans too busy Entertaining themselves to care.

    - It is Easy to destroy, hard to build.

    Red Green axis is the communists and the muslims working together to bring down America. 

    See also the Little Somalia of St. Paul where muslim somalis were brought in to create a democratic stronghold.

    ——

    Use Chaos and anarchy insurrection

    There are at least 20 communist parties in the United States including:

    Democratic Socialists of America

    Liberation Road

    Freedom Road 

    Workers world

    Party of Socialism and Liberation

    See Francis Fox Piven “coward (sp?) Piven strategy” Columbia U.

    Wrote an article saying essentially,

    “Get everyone on welfare and collapse the system. Create economic chaos.” To bring revolution.

    Look at Sds sda

    See Trevor Laundens work showing how Muslims and marxists working together

    Media and leadership are not recognizing the influence of the communist parties in the United States in these insurrections in these cities.

    Rioters can easily go after power substations and take out the power grid.

    Plan is to Destroy economic recovery, etc. make it easier for their sponsors in Russia Iran and China to do what they want in the world.

    Bring this country to its knees by stirring up racial tensions for decades. See Cincinnati in the 60s. See Newark New Jersey in the 60s. For these organizers, Revolution is not equality or better race relations.

    Research by the Cuyoga county special grand jury Cleveland 1966:

    “This jury finds … outbreak of violence organized, precipitated, and exploited by a relatively small group of trained and disciplined professionals at this business. …many were avowed believers in violence, and some of whom are either   members or officers of the communist party.

    Look at the “Minimanual of the urban gorilla” Carlos Marighella 1969. 

    How do they explain that the rioters are black but they are white nationalists?

    Look at Gus Hall Communist From Minneapolis  who said

    The Democrat party sits on three legs, communist party, forces of political independence, and liberal wing”  of the democrat party. The goal of the communists is to move to the ideology to the communist agenda, using the issues loved by the liberal side of the Democrats. Animal rights, environmentalism, Global warming, anti nuke, “white privilege”, etc. “causes”.

    Gus Hall came from Minesotta, ran for president several times.

    1967 Hoover, testified before congress, and said communists, activists, extremists, tried ceaselessly to precipitate and exploit racial trouble in Harlem, Cleveland, Watts, etc. Look at the House of Representatives committee : “Bold and deceitful communist tactics can overcome resistance if it is not recognized.”

    They don’t have to send troops, or money.

    Look at Carmichael:

    Smash everything western civilization has made.

    See Fergeson Missouri where outside instigators did not care about the blacks, especially those who owned businesses burned down.

    Look at rioters in Seattle Nashville, OK city, salt lake, Atlanta chicago dc Wilmington portand Phoenix, Tampa. Philadelphia lit up police cars. Easy to destroy, hard to build.

    Russia cuba venezuela iran china are sponsors of these groups.

    Atty General Barr: if you cross state line to riot, felony 5 years. 

    Chicago 7 organized the riots. Put 5 in jail. That broke the back of the protest movement. 

    China:

    “Freedom Roads” party  maoist communist china are behind Minnesota Chicago Tampa riots. 

    Other parties:

    Communist party USA 

    committees of correspondence

    “Liberation Road” gave support and money to “black lives matter” and have ties to Palestinian terrorists and communists. They brought 10,000 people into Fergeson Missouri to riot. They are attached to Muslims groups.

    Workers world 

    Many others.

    Money comes from Soros, Democracy Alliance, Unions, other American money. They were given the green light from overseas.

     

    They also push the idea of “white privilege” “unconscious racism” “cannot criticise islam” and the excuse of “climate change” anything that fits the underlying agenda of unrest and revolution.

    “Freedom Roads “ socialist organization  started riots in Minnesota. They are

    strong in Minnesota, Tampa. 

    This is China’s revenge.

    Liberation Road extensive ties to Palestinians and met with them in Palestine. and gave Fergeson Missouri 2014. They published that they

    Brought in 10,000 to Fergeson. And leaders are from out of state.

    money comes from here, democracy alliance unions Soros 

    A revolution can backfire, but now given the green light. 

    Like the mafia soldiers. Chain of command. Follow instructions. Work for China, Russia, Iran.

    Organized disciplined communists follow instructions. 

    Do not want to risk a blowback.

    They were trained overseas, come back. 1980s trained in Moscow. Learned Racial agitation, denigrate police, 7 year courses. learned explosives, bomb making, propaganda. 

    Communism Did not die with end of USSR. Russia backed “black lives matter”

    Training continues in Russia. Schools with 6000 “students” learning communist tactics were running in Moscow.

    “Black lives matter” activists went to Russia to events with "anti globalization conference” funded by Putin. The communists and those trained know how to start a race riot.

    The communists are Professionals, working for 100 years. 

    Tried for guy in Atlanta as the flashpoint, but obviously false story.

    In the course of a year, 7-10 black people are killed by the police, perhaps many more whites or other races. They wait for a convenient episode and then pour in when given the green light. 

    Communists/socialists etc are giving money, weapons, (putting bricks in place, using bottles) to young people and letting them get arrested  while the socialists are in background.  

    See wvwtv.com 2019 documentary marxist islamic revolution strategy. 

    Recently, Mineapolis mayor declares single family homes are racist, and zoning should be abolished.

    Islam and Marxism have the same goal, to burn down America and build a delusional eutopia. 

    Why are Americans fighting Americans? Think. Most of the injustice is in white collar crime by politicians and financiers. That is harder to use for a riot.

    Who will recognize this threat? This information is important but the Christians are absorbed in fake issues.

    Look at 911:

    911 Hijackers were trained in Iran, using 737 simulators, and their passports were not stamped correctly when entering Iran from Saudi Arabia but they used a special code to avoid any indication they had been to Lebanon, Iran, Afghanistan. That is how they got their visas to the United States.

    Biden:

    Biden has ties to communist agenda see book “White House reds.”

    Trevor Loundin’s Book “White House Reds”

     

    Biden at 29 years old in first race was the underdog. He was Sponsored by Al Gore Sr and his wife.  Gore was sponsored and protege of Armand Hammer.

    Biden Sponsored by Anti nuke organization that was set up by Hungarian socialist Szilard to disarm the United States and make it ineffective. See Szilard bio below.

    Sponsored also by Armand Hammer, front man for  Soviet Union as way to transfer money to communist sympathizers. Soviet spy not convicted because FBI did not know who else would be used if they put him in jail.

    Biden has direct connections to the little-known but highly influential Council for a Livable World (CLW). Founded in 1962 by former Manhattan Project scientist Leo Szilard, the CLW is a Washington-based nonprofit advocacy organization.

    Szilard:

    “Beria (Russian Intelligence) said we should think how to use Oppenheimer, Fermi, Szilard, and others around them in the peace campaign against nuclear{p. 208} armament. Disarmament and the inability to impose nuclear blackmail would deprive the United States of its advantage. We began a worldwide political campaign against nuclear superiority, which kept up until we exploded our own nuclear bomb, in 1949. Our goal was to preempt American power politically before the Soviet Union had its own bomb. Beria warned us not to compromise Western scientists, but to use their political influence.

    “Through Fuchs we planted the idea that Fermi, Oppenheimer, and Szilard oppose the hydrogen bomb. They truly believed in their positions and did not know they were being used. They started as antifascists, and became political advocates of the Soviet Union.

    "Young ‘progressive’ Biden from the tiny state of Delaware was a perfect candidate for CLW recruitment.

    According to The Tennessean:

    “When Joe Biden started running for a Senate seat in 1972, few people thought the young man from Delaware had a chance.

    “But a well-placed Tennessee couple tagged him early as an up-and-comer.

    “I was 29 years old, running for the United States Senate against a guy with an 81 percent favorable rating, a year where Richard Nixon won my state by over 65 percent of the vote, and I was an Irish Catholic in a state that (had) never elected one,’ Biden told Tennessee Democrats in a [2010] speech.

    “Biden pulled off a stunning, 3,162-vote upset with a mix of youthful vigor, skillful campaigning, energized volunteers and smart advertising—fueled by tens of thousands of dollars that a prominent Tennessee couple raised for his campaign.

    “His candidacy caught the eye of former Tennessee Sen. Albert Gore, Sr., who was working with a Washington, D.C.-based arms control group called the Council for a Livable World.”

    “Now, as an aside, we have a dictum at Council for a Livable World. If we support a candidate in his or her first major political contest, he or she will always remember who was with them at the beginning. That has been true with such political figures—(he says modestly)—as President Barack Obama and Vice President Joseph Biden.

    It’s worth remembering that Gore Sr. was himself the “product” of a very rich man named Armand Hammer—the long-time head of Occidental Petroleum.

    According to espionage expert Edward Jay Epstein:

    “In 1950, Hammer made Mr. Gore ‘a partner in a cattle-breeding business, from which the Senator made a substantial profit.’ Thereafter, Gore was Hammer’s designated door-opener in official Washington. When Mr. Gore retired, Hammer made him president of Occidental’s coal division, where he ‘earned more than $500,000 a year.’

    “Soon Al next put the family’s Senate seat at Hammer’s service. At the 1981 inauguration of Ronald Reagan, Junior managed for Hammer to be seated in a section reserved for senators. Hammer lurked in the doorway, hoping to glad-hand the president, but Mr. Reagan brushed by him without a glance, and with reason. Years earlier, Alexandre de Marenches, the head of French intelligence, had warned him that Hammer was a Soviet ‘agent of influence.’”

    Hammer is one of the most famous Soviet operatives of all time. The son of a Communist Party USA founder, Hammer made millions trading with the newly founded Soviet Union at a time when international sanctions almost strangled the newborn Soviet state in its infancy. Hammer met regularly with Lenin when he lived in the Soviet Union from 1919 to 1928.

    FBI director J. Edgar Hoover began creating a massive file, “61-280—Armand Hammer, Internal Security—Russia,” as early as 1919. According to Epstein, Hoover knew that Hammer financed communist agents but did not move against him, saying that “‘it is often more profitable not to arrest a detected courier’ when there is no assurance that the replacement will be detected.”

    It was reported that Hoover was preparing to finally move against Hammer in the 1960s but was dissuaded from doing do by Al Gore Sr.

    ——

    Hamas:

    Why are Hamas and CAIR and Radical Islamic elements in the United States important? Because the communists decided early on that rather than try to suppress Islam, they would use Islam as a battering ram against the West.

    Recently, for example, “Democrat Minneapolis (MN) Mayor Jacob Frey, working directly with Hamas doing business as the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) and the Dar al Hijrah Islamic Center, approved the Muslim call to prayer over loudspeakers in Minneapolis for the first time in history.

    “Minneapolis becomes only the third city in America to allow the call to prayer like this. The others are Dearborn, Michigan and Paterson, New Jersey.

    ——

    “Four U.S. communist groups have formed an alliance to take over the Democratic Party at every level. With a combined membership of more than 65,000 and significant financial backing from unions, foundations, and even some churches, the plan is credible and is already well under way. Three of the four groups involved--Communist Party USA (CPUSA), Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (CCDS), and Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO)--are loyal to Beijing, while the fourth and largest partner organization--the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)--is connected to a network of European and Latin American communist and socialist parties….

    While the Left Inside/Outside Project can muster only about 65,000 core members, it is worth remembering that in 1910, seven years before the Bolshevik revolution, the combined Russian revolutionary forces of Bolsheviks and the slightly more moderate Mensheviks numbered fewer than 10,000.

    And America's modern Bolsheviks are way more media savvy and practiced than was Lenin's crew. They also have access to billions of dollars of government, foundation, union, and church funding, and a generally sympathetic national media.

    “America's communists also dominate the Working Families Party (which operates in 19 states to help elect leftist Democrats) and Bernie Sanders' Our Revolution, which claims 200,000-plus members across all 50 states. The communists also control almost all major labor unions (including the nearly 2,000,000-strong SEIU) and hundreds, if not thousands, of smaller nonprofits, community groups, and leftist churches.

    AntiFa:

    The name “Antifa” comes from the word that is similarly pronounced in arabic “intifada” (انتفاضة intifāḍah) which is defined as a rebellion, uprising, resistance or uprising against oppression. The term was first utilized in 1952 within the Kingdom of Iraq, when socialist and communist parties took to the streets to protest the Hashemite monarchy, with inspiration of the 1952 Egyptian Revolution.

    Intifada is an Arabic word literally meaning, as a noun, “tremor”, “shivering”, “shuddering”. It is derived from an Arabic term “nafada” meaning “to shake”, “shake off”, “get rid of”, as a dog might shrug off water, or as one might shake off sleep or dirt from one’s sandals.

    Notice the similarity between the two words “antifa” and “intifada”.

    See how America is built on individual liberty and rule of law vs mob rule and using chaos to increase government control or revolution. 

    A History of socialism in the United States for decades:

    Starts with John Dewey and Frankfort school. They wanted to use the education system and media to destroy American. A cultural marxist revolution. They weaponized psychology, tore down American history, credible male leaders, and American heroes.

    They use fear, revisionist history, anxiety, to diminish our ability to use truth, reality, logic, reason, and context. The history of subversion using shariah, fake news, horror, shock, that desensitizes. 

    The Siege of America starts with the mind. There is a long Propaganda campaign to let go of values and beliefs that support free society, religion, morality and individual rights. Why would America give up these values? By basing on think on feelings, pragmatism, cultural norms, labeling, peer pressure, group consensus. "Social media” conditions us to seek “likes” or followers. Freedom of thought is self censored. Anything controversial avoided.

    They Use ideas like “white privilege” or “racism" against America.  

    Bring this country to its knees by stirring up racial tensions for decades.

    We have Common sense, Private property rights, free market systems. freedom of religion, speech, and to bear arms. And common sense border security against terrorism. 

    They want to bring Dialectical materialism. Infiltrate government, religion, education, and other institutions. Manufactured revolution.

    More on Saul Alinsky: basically believed with Karl Marx that “Change comes from conflict.” Use manufactured crisis and civil unrest. However, He seemed to be non-violent.

    He began his book, Rules for Radicals, with a mock salute to Lucifer. It begins with a series of quotes, including one attributed to himself: "Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer."

    And said among other similar things:

    “In war, the end justifies almost any means.”

    Hillary Clinton's senior thesis at Wellesley — "'There Is Only the Fight…': An Analysis of the Alinsky Model" — was about Alinsky and his model of organizing. She and Barack refined his model.

    Addendum:

    Mary, Our Lady, appeared in Fatima and said,

    ‘If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world,…”

    Mary, does not mention communism by name. Sr. Lucia later said that what happened through Russian communism spread through the world fulfilled this prophecy. Proof and details of the apparition at Fatima are available and will not be discussed here.

    The whole section of the apparition concerning Russia:

    “You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end: but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the Pontificate of Pope Pius XI. When you see a night illumined by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given you by God that he is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father. To prevent this, I shall come to ask for the Consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of reparation on the First Saturdays. If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated. In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she shall be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world. In Portugal the faith will always be preserved. Remember, you must not tell this to anyone except Francisco.”

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  • Fri, Jun 05, 2020 - 3:37pm

    sofistek

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    Cases and death rates

    I would expect a delay between a change in the new case rate and a corresponding change in the death rate but I don't know what that delay might be. I guess a factor is the distribution of cases and how overwhelmed the relevant health services are. It's far too early to say but there appears to be a slight uptick in daily deaths, something to keep an eye on.

    Worldometers is finally showing a marked uptick in US cases today, perhaps in response to restriction lifting a couple of weeks ago?

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  • Fri, Jun 05, 2020 - 4:38pm

    stevedaly

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    Fear ofAmericans who are black?

    Look at the huge contributions of black Americans:

    Music, sports, civil rights, art, entertainment, military, government, construction.....  It just goes  on and on.

    Black families may be embarrassed by the media constantly harping on identity politics.  "we are strong enough  to stand on our own. Just keep our neighborhoods safe." Shop owners are destroyed by out of town looters.  Stores that close may never open again like in Detroit.

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  • Sat, Jun 06, 2020 - 10:52am

    Tonya McKinney

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    Fascinating!!

    I clicked on the links and unfortunately can’t read French!! Your conclusion and thoughts are fascinating! Thank you!

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  • Sat, Jun 06, 2020 - 11:06am

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    Death rate seems to be tapering off vs new cases

    It is odd.  I am at a loss to logically explain this.   There is nothing that should make a successful virus like the "honey badger', do this.  Unless, IT was engineered.   I got to thinking that engineered viruses could break down with issues in multiple hundreds of generations, as they did not come from nature, would not be guaranteed the lengthy resiliency, that nature would.   It is possible, its showing it was man-made/   I read a study about the science of what is happening with a strain in a subset of people.   I can only conclude this is not that strong virus that jumped species , and with all the ability affect so many systems and be so infectious , and then all of sudden starts to deviate greatly from its natural success.

    It seems they found a strain with a huge deletion.  Usually, when this happens in nature you have a non viable organism.  It is interesting that with such a deletion that its still infectious and able to reproduce.  But seems to unable to cause severe disease.  If this is the case - you have a natural vaccine.   Though,  we do not know if you build up immunity on the long-term - but a virus like this pushed into masses would likely over-take the more lethal strain,  while offering mild protection.. Perhaps what we should be working on instead of a vaccine.  This is cow pox, small pox 101.

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  • Sat, Jun 06, 2020 - 11:11am

    nordicjack

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    RPS - good question

    It is possible the reduction in death is just simply a more consistent therapy.  The oxygen and blood thinners , and no vents.   Also, one that does not require such ICU care.    The question is are the hospitalization rates dropping with the death rate.  I wish someone could dig up something on that. It would be helpful

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  • Sat, Jun 06, 2020 - 7:34pm

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    Eyeballing

    Again, just eyeballing the worldometers graphs and it looks like the deaths are beginning to go up again, though the number of new cases per day seems to be increasing.

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  • Mon, Jun 08, 2020 - 3:29pm

    LabCat

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    LabCat said:

    Dude, Seriously?

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