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    How Secure is the Freedom Phone?

    Is it worth the hype?
    by iSecurityGuru

    Monday, November 15, 2021, 1:26 PM

By: Terence Kam

There has been a lot of buzz lately about the Freedom Phone. It is a smartphone for those who want to escape the clutches of Big Tech censorship, namely Apple and Google.

After all, when it comes to smartphones, we have a duopoly: Android and iOS. Most Android smartphones are controlled by Google and all iOS smartphones are controlled by Apple. If you do not want to trust both of them, you will essentially have nowhere else to go.

Hence, the Freedom Phone is an attempt to break into the Big Tech duopoly and give choice to those who do not want to trust Google and Apple.

What is the Freedom Phone?

The Freedom Phone is an Android smartphone with Google’s code completely stripped out.

Why is Android used?

Creating a brand new smartphone operating system from scratch is a colossal amount of work. Nobody does it nowadays. Even iOS and Android is based on the Unix operating system, which has decades of history behind it.

Since there is no point in re-inventing the wheel by re-creating a brand new smartphone operating system from scratch, it is much easier and expedient to use an existing and proven open-sourced operating system, which is Android. Since the source code of Android is made freely available for modifications and redistribution, it is the most natural choice for creating an alternative non-Big Tech smartphone platform.

How secure is it?

This is a very good question. Putting politics aside, I am skeptical about the security of this platform. The reason is, there is simply not enough information to make an informed evaluation about this smartphone. There are far too many unknowns.

Where is the security white paper?

The Freedom Phone’s website says that the smartphone is based on “freedom, security and privacy”.

But how exactly does it achieve that?

Without a security white paper, there is no information on their security/privacy philosophy and implementation. I cannot see their thought process behind the implementation.

To give you an example of why a security white paper is useful, take the example of Apple. After reading Apple’s security white paper on iMessage, I was able to make the inference that its encryption is good enough to prevent mass surveillance, but not good enough to protect an individual from being targeted by a state-sponsored actor. The white paper also tells me that Apple’s iMessage encryption is not truly end-to-end encrypted (see this article on what “end-to-end encryption means). That explains why China, Iran and Russia allow iMessage while they ban apps like WhatsApp.

For the Freedom Phone, without a white paper, I cannot make any evaluation.

How much control does Freedom Phone have in the manufacturing process?

The Freedom Phone seems to be a rebrand from this Umidigi phone. Umidigi is a Chinese brand.

It is not clear how much control does Freedom Phone has over the entire manufacturing process. How is the Android implemented on the phone? Who wrote the custom code and drivers for the Android in the phone? How well tested is the code? Who wrote the code inside the various hardware components?

Again, I do not know the answers to any of these questions. Furthermore, I am sure there are even more unknown unknowns that I am not aware of.

Where is the commitment to provide continuous software updates?

As I wrote before in Top 10 Things You Must Do to Avoid Getting Hacked,

The IT industry has not figured out how to write secure code. Every time hardware and software vendors released new products, more lines of computer code are released as well. More lines of code mean more cybersecurity holes. That means there are always holes to be patched.

Worse still, there are always massive backlogs of holes to be found and patched. For example, even today, Microsoft is still finding holes in code written a dozen years ago in their latest Windows operating system!

Therefore, vendors are always on the never-ending treadmill of releasing patches for security holes in their code. You will need to be always up to date with the patches to be secure.

Will Freedom Phone stay around in the long haul to continuously provide patches to security holes that will inevitably be found?

Even Apple, with their reputation of security, are constantly patching security holes found in their code. Will Freedom Phone have the financial longevity to do the same?

If not, the Freedom Phone will be insecure within a few years.

Who polices their app store?

The reason why people choose the Freedom Phone is that they promise not to censor.

But that was the case for Google’s Android platform in the early days too. Back then, Google had a hands-off approach to the apps that were published in their app store. The result was that Google Android’s platform’s app store was rife with malware, scams and dodgy apps. Eventually, Google had to follow Apple’s Wall Garden approach by vetting every app in their Google Play Store. Today, every app listed in the Google Play store is supposed to be vetted by Google. But still, I hear of malware making its way to the Google Play store.

So, although Freedom Phone promises not to censor their App Store, are they still going to vet every app for malware and scams and dodgy apps? If not, you can be sure their App Store will soon be a cesspit for hackers and scammers.

Unfortunately, in this politically-charged environment, any form of security vetting will carry the smell of ‘censorship’. This is bound to be problematic for their non-censorship philosophy.

Are you allowed to install apps outside the app store?

My bet is, you will be allowed to sideload apps into the smartphone. But it will be the user’s responsibility not to accidentally side-load malware into their smartphone.

Final thoughts

Cybersecurity and privacy are hard.

It takes decades upon decades of lessons, thinking and innovation to get to where we are today in terms of security and privacy. Yet, this problem is still not solved. Hackers and trackers are still finding ways to get around the Great Wall of Cybersecurity that the IT industry has built over the decades.

But the Freedom Phone seems to be a product made in relative haste. For a product made so hastily, it is approaching the level of over-confidence to claim that it has solved the problem of security and privacy.

At best, it will take many years (even more than a decade) for the product to mature to the point of meeting its claim of security and privacy.

Personally, I will give it a pass.

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  • Mon, Nov 15, 2021 - 2:02pm

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    You've been Nudged...!

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    Freedom IS Slavery.

    At least in this case.

     

     

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  • Mon, Nov 15, 2021 - 2:06pm

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    Patrick B

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    Getting rid of iPhone

    I got rid of my iPhone a month ago... and purchased something called The Light Phone. Partly to get off of Big Tech... partly to get my time back. (I had been spending way too much time on the iPhone... about 5+ hours per day.)

    What I love about the Light Phone is... it's a hotspot, so I can use it to get online and work remotely. It's got Phone, Texting a Calculator and Podcasts - that's it! So I can still listen to Peak Prosperity podcasts from anywhere. A month in now and I feel so much more present when driving... meeting... eating with friends and family. I find myself asking a lot more questions and talking to people - and feeling more connected!

    Only downside is - they are on back-order. So it takes 2-3 months to receive one of these phones. But if you're looking to get off big tech, it's one way to start: http://thelightphone.com

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  • Mon, Nov 15, 2021 - 3:02pm

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    Emmanuel Goldstein

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    Emmanuel Goldstein said:

    I made a video about the Freedom Phone when it came out and explained how it is basically a complete rip off and how you are much better off just installing Lineage OS on your current phone:





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  • Mon, Nov 15, 2021 - 3:02pm

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    brushhog

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    brushhog said:

    Too bad. I wont buy a smartphone until the issues of privacy are fixed. Its a nonstarter for me.

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  • Mon, Nov 15, 2021 - 3:21pm

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    Canuck21

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    Faraday bag?

    Can anyone recommend a good-quality Faraday bag for a smartphone that I can buy online in Canada? Thanks in advance.

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  • Mon, Nov 15, 2021 - 3:39pm

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    Jaap

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    Stripped android is not new

    Blackphone from Silent Circle and Geekphone tried to break the duopoly and failed miserably. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackphone

    I bought a blackphone and still use it as a basic phone. The support has been ended long time ago and running apps is essentially impossible due to security issues.

    Personally I think any attempt to do a de-googled android fork is setup to fail. Google did not design Android for such purpose and will frustrate competition every step of the way.... don't be evil was their motto for a long time for good reason!

    The best chance to break the duopoly is a pure linux open software based platform.

    Librem 5 from Purism has a good shot https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/

    Their operation seems well funded and they have experience in designing hardware. They found out the painful way why hardware for a phone is called so.... its hard. I worked for the big scandinavian phone manufacturers 3 decades ago and volume production quality is an art by itself.

    The kickstart project has been running for years and only now final version phones are shipping. The supply chain problems cause lead times of >  52 weeks if you order today.

    So for urgent needs Purism is not an option but in the longer term a linux based mobile platform has potential. More and more people want to get away from big tech!

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  • Mon, Nov 15, 2021 - 5:22pm

    thc0655

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    Faraday bag for smartphones, credit cards, car alarm remotes and crypto keys

    https://privacypros.io/products/faraday-bag-bundle/

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  • Mon, Nov 15, 2021 - 5:34pm

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    Maz

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    Fair phone with /e/ OS

    Would any of the security gurus here comment on Fair phone with /e/ OS? It is based on Lineage I believe. It was easy to find out that Freedom Phone is just a gimmick. I have harder time making up my mind about Fair phone with /e/ when it comes to privacy.

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  • Mon, Nov 15, 2021 - 5:38pm

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    Arthur Robey

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    Empathy for the Devil

    If I were in the surveillance "industry", I would have  problem; too many cats, puppy-dogs and what-I-had-for-breakfast data.

    I would prefer to have the criminally minded self-select and I would produce a "security phone" in the hopes that those with secrets to hide would buy my product.

    If everybody bought one and posted selfies of their latest hair-do, I'd be back at square one, and would have to think of something else.

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  • Mon, Nov 15, 2021 - 9:36pm

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    Shplad

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    Shplad said:

    For a more technical, detailed look at the Freedom Phone, see here:

    Ars Technica: The MAGA-targeted freedom phone has a breathtaking amount of red flags.

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/07/the-maga-targeted-freedom-phone-has-a-breathtaking-amount-of-red-flags/

    Basic security really isn't that hard. The problem is largely that vendors sell things based on bells and whistles, and shiny features, not security, practicality or reliability. The corollary to that is that people mostly are trained like seals to buy based on bells and whistles, and shiny things. As Chris is always saying "it didn't have to be this way".

    A large number of vulnerabilities are still based on such simple problems as buffer overflows, and private information sent in plain text.

    There's a saying in the IT industry: "Security is a process, not a product". Whatever you choose, do your research. But remember, the "smart" part of smartphone usually means you're being surveilled constantly in many different ways.

     

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  • Mon, Nov 15, 2021 - 9:47pm

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    The Lineage OS (or other like ROM) seems to still be the least worst so far

    With Lineage, you can choose not to install Google Play Services.  This means most of the apps the cool kids use will not work for you but are free from most of the google spyware.

    The hardest to live without is the Push type functionality.  You end up with a phone that can browse the web and last I checked apps like Audible would run if you were into that.  But anything "social" is hobbled if it runs at all.   Maybe this is a benefit to you?

    But it can be intimidating to install all of that.   I may move my One Plus 7T over to lineage or OmniRom soon.   I theoretically need Teams for work but maybe I will just deal with the fallout of not getting timely notifications on my phone.

    And of course once you get into it, why not install "Hotdog" or "Derpfest"?  So far, I have found these alternative ROMS to be best for a smartphones' "second life" after vendor support ends.  But if you are determined, you can make your phone half smart and remove a lot of spying.

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  • Mon, Nov 15, 2021 - 10:21pm

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    Stph

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    Stph said:

    For most people, here is the only finished phone I would recommend anyone consider at this time:  https://www.pine64.org/pinephonepro/

    They are targeting this to early adopters, so it is probably about time for me to buy one,  but this has been getting a lot of careful attention and reviews along the development path, and it comes from one of the most respected linux computer (integrating hardware+software) companies.   Because they are only just now opening up to general orders, the OS will doubtless be getting updates but they collaborated heavily with a lot of linux groups and I will be astonished if it isn't a really solid, really secure, product.

    I paid for a Librem5 phone I think 3 years ago, when it was promised as "only a few months away" from ship ready.   A few months became years and I don't have any reason to believe they are anywhere close to having a completely functioning phone.  And, when (if) they do, I expect software to be limited, because they do not have the partners that pine has cultivated.  I haven't asked for my money back, yet, but if I buy a pinephone and like it, I will probably try.   I have my doubts if they have money available to return.  I think they had good intentions and just took on more than they could chew.

     

    Then, there are a lot of linux projects working to repurpose android phones.  If you have access to a suitable old android phone, and you are a "do it yourself" sort of hacker, here is a brief mention of some linux OS only projects:

     

    https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20211115#waydroid

    There are a number of Linux-based mobile operating systems currently available. Some of these strive to provide an open, GNU/Linux platform while others are children of the Android family. Some of these projects are able to collaborate to share code and progress. The UBports team have published a blog post which outlines various ways the developers work with other distributions and mobile platforms. One key component that gets shared is called Halium. "Halium provides a Hardware Abstraction Layer that allows GNU/Linux to run on mobile devices that come pre-installed with Android. Halium contains the device-specific Linux kernel with drivers, as well as Android services needed to talk to the hardware and the telephony stack oFono. Thanks to the Halium abstraction layer, Ubuntu Touch, Droidian, LuneOS and other mobile Linux platforms have the same way to use the Android source code, launch Android services and flash images to devices. So Halium makes sure that all these projects are able to boot on a phone. By collaborating on these low-level components, these distributions have a common Linux base. This allows each project to focus on the development of the higher layers, where they differ from each other in their user interfaces."

    I am optimistic we are really close to having a real, usable, high privacy alternative to android and apple iphone.  There are many, many qualified people and companies interested in making this a reality.  I expect 2022 to be the year when you will start to see some of these viable alternatives -- probably starting with the pinephone launch.

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  • Mon, Nov 15, 2021 - 10:50pm

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    Shining Hector

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    Shining Hector said:

    I have a friend who has a side business selling de-Googled phones. I've had mine for a couple of months now, and it works well. He set it up for me, so I don't know all about the specifics. It runs GrapheneOS, which I believe is basically a fork from the open source Android. Instead of Google Play, I get apps off F-droid (preferred but less selection) and Aurora Store.

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  • Tue, Nov 16, 2021 - 12:22am

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    davefairtex

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    its a quagmire

    A secure phone really feels like an oxymoron to me.  Agree about the need for constant patching.  I also agree with Arthur that if you really do have a secure phone, that's a bit of a honey pot trap too.   NSA will go out of its way to hack it, for that reason alone.

    I seem to recall CIA running a "secure communications" company out of Switzerland.  Twice.  Ah, the irony.

    https://www.securityweek.com/report-claims-cia-controlled-second-swiss-encryption-firm

    Swiss politicians have voiced outrage and demanded an investigation after revelations that a second Swiss encryption company was allegedly used by the CIA and its German counterpart to spy on governments worldwide.

    For me, I just assume the phone is the least secure device I own.  I try hard not to use it for anything important.  Like banking, for instance.

    I tried the blackphone thing, but when I saw the MAC address of my new phone resolved to a CCP chip manufacturer...I stuck with my ancient Samsung device.  They can do anything they want when they control the hardware.

    And they probably do.

    Someday a non-google OS that's properly maintained will happen.  Not sure we're there yet.  I have the same concern about routers.  Is an infrequently-updated DD-WRT better than stock software that may well have backdoors built in?  Hard to know.

    Its a quagmire.

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  • Tue, Nov 16, 2021 - 1:22am

    Stph

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    Graphene OS? Can you tell about your experience?

    I was looking at the website (https://grapheneos.org/) about a week ago.  It sounds pretty solid, as a project.   I even went as far as looking for a supported android phone (https://grapheneos.org/faq#recommended-devices) and checking ebay for a Pixel5 (about $600 as I recall).

    Can you give us a review of your experience and, specifically, what you feel the tradeoffs are vs actual android??    I think that might be really valuable to many!  I know I would like your opinion and any details on high and low points.

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  • Tue, Nov 16, 2021 - 2:38am

    Shining Hector

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    Shining Hector said:

    I've had good experiences. It basically runs like a regular Android smartphone. For maximum anonymity he said you'd want to use WiFi calling, but I have my old AT&T SIM card slotted for practicality.

    My friend pre-installed apps that don't track you. He recommends not installing Facebook, Twitter, etc., so we've used Telegram and Session instead. He prefers Tutanota or K-9 Mail for email, but I already had Protonmail so am still using it for now. He set up a Nextcloud server for cloud storage which works fine. I use Antenna for podcasts, only one out of 7 (Sovereign Man) occasionally gives me errors syncing for some unknown reason. For GPS maps, he prefers Magic Earth, but Waze apparently doesn't track you either and has more up to date maps so it's on as a backup. I use the Duck Duck Go browser - only problem I've ever run into with it so far was Ticketmaster didn't like it when I tried to resell a ticket, transferring it to a friend worked fine, though. Really little to no issues, and I don't miss the creepy reminders I'm being tracked, like Google Maps figuring out where I work and deciding to take its own initiative come up with "helpful shortcuts" and the like.

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  • Tue, Nov 16, 2021 - 4:46am

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    Machine code.

    A relative has a masters in computing and writes in machine code. It pisses off his bosses because they haven't a clue what he is doing.

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  • Tue, Nov 16, 2021 - 9:18am

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    Freedom with a catch

    Hey, we are perfectly free to snuggle up in our cabin by the fire watching the world afar (aka, reading Zerohedge and PP) from our cell phones as our every click is monitored.

    My goal is not to go un-monitored, but to stay enough below the radar that there are many others worth monitoring long before us, at least for now.

    -Travis

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  • Tue, Nov 16, 2021 - 10:06am

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    Smartphones as they are currently built can never be secured

    The problem is that all phones really have 2 operating systems.  One is the iOS/Android, the second that that runs the radios and has complete access to everything on the phone.  Here is an article describing this:

    The second operating system hiding in every mobile phone

    The only way I can think of to possibly secure your communications when using a phone is to use 2 devices.  One to use end-to-end encryption and then tether to the smartphone using it like you would any untrusted network.  Anything of importance must be encrypted before being given to the network.  You also need to make sure the phone your using is crippled (remove the camera/microphone/gps antenna, etc). But it still will know where you are via triangulation from the cell phone towers.

    The moral of the story is if you are near a "smart" device, assume you are/could be monitored/tracked.  That includes your "smart TVs", computers, phones, thermostats, ring type doorbells, robot vacuums, newer cars - anything that connects to a network.

    The only other thing you can maybe do to protect  privacy is to make the data less useful.  Randomly surf or find software that will randomly web surf for you.  Open a side wifi to the world so people will randomly use it for you. Fill out surveys and lie.  Have a rooted phone? - use an app that lies about where you are to the applications (FYI - you will be blocked from most application stores while in Antarctica). 🙂  When you do this, you will know it's working when you get really odd ads that have nothing to do with you.

     

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  • Tue, Nov 16, 2021 - 5:26pm

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    Marcus Scott

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    We're all going to die

    And there won't even be an internet shortly. I don't know what's happening.

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  • Tue, Nov 16, 2021 - 5:34pm

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    We all die one day - but now what matters is how we die...

     

     

     

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  • Tue, Nov 16, 2021 - 6:05pm

    Marcus Scott

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    Were going to die soon and not quickly

    I'm going to starve to death or freeze to death. The reality of this doesn't even faze me anymore. I can't feel anything. Except thinking about my family. I can,t even contact them now.

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  • Tue, Nov 16, 2021 - 6:43pm

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    Shining Hector said:

    If you're okay with eating rice and beans and when you get bored with that, beans and rice, it's not expensive to put away a lot of food right now if you're worried about starving. A propane heater and propane are also widely available right now. No money? Plenty of places hiring. There's zero reasons to just sit around feeling sorry for yourself if you're really that worried about the future.

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  • Tue, Nov 16, 2021 - 7:22pm

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    Plenty to Keep Them Occupied

    I'm thinking there are plenty of pissed off parents, mad at their respective school boards, to keep TPTB busy with intelligence gathering and tagging for a while.  Queue up some popcorn while cuddling.

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  • Tue, Nov 16, 2021 - 7:55pm

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    mary said:

    I'm sorry to hear that. I send you peace love and happiness. Don't let the darkness get you..fight! I wish you much luck

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  • Tue, Nov 16, 2021 - 8:28pm

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    Marcus Scott said:

    I ate a vegan diet for 13 years. I almost died from it. My pancreas now is incapable of tolerating even minute quantities of carbohydrates. Beans, lentils, rice, grains - I subsisted on these for a decade and a half. So I gave up and accepted that were meant to eat meat. I did this in April of 2020 just in time to witness the beginning of the end of the world.

    Were at peak fossil fuels and so getting a propane heater?

    I'm honestly just numb and at a loss as to the delusions. I don't know how to navigate.

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  • Tue, Nov 16, 2021 - 9:23pm

    Shining Hector

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    Shining Hector said:

    We've probably all been there. I'm not your life coach and don't know your circumstances, just some random guy on the Internet. When faced with a challenge, though, you have the basic choice to fight freeze, or flee. You seem stuck on freeze, which is almost never the right choice. If you're worried about freezing to death, the first order of business is not freezing to death in the winter of 2021-22, and a propane heater is an entirely solid option for that purpose, so start there. Meat is more expensive, but having a supply to get you through the winter was an entirely solvable problem for thousands of your ancestors as well, so pick a strategy and go with it.

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  • Wed, Nov 17, 2021 - 10:16am

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    Jim Hightower's take

    Jim Hightower's Radio Lowdown: Should Apple Profit By Blocking Our Consumer Rights?

    At least since the invention of the wheel, people have fixed, tinkered with, and improved every device they’ve possessed. It’s been a human right. But after several thousand years, suddenly legal clauses are being tucked in purchase agreements saying that today’s owners of products MUST NOT even peek, much less poke inside the inner workings of our devices. Makers of anything with a computer chip in it (everything from your car to your toothbrush) have been especially vehement about this, rewriting human nature by outlawing our right to repair. Yes, they assert, you own the thing, but we own the intangible ideas that make it work, so if the product malfunctions, you must return it to us – and pay us a premium – to repair it. Plus, they prattle, you could hurt yourself trying to do-it-yourself, so trust us. Bovine Excrement, barks Steve Wozniak: Companies inhibit your rights so they can have “power, control, over everything.” Is he, some consumer radical? No, Wozniak is the co-founder of Apple, the multibillion-dollar global goliath that is the world’s biggest producer of consumer electronics. He’s appalled that Apple has now become a fierce opponent of self-repair. He says “We wouldn’t have had an Apple” except that early innovators like him grew up “in a very open technology world.” From the start, Wozniak point out, openness helped spread innovation and consumer demand. “So, why stop... the self-repair community,” he asks? Two big reasons: Besides letting corporations lock in monopoly profits from the repair industry, it also dissuades customers from bothering with repairs – just throw the thing away and buy a new one! If you wonder where such massive, deadly levels of pollution by bead, mercury, plastic, etc. come from, look to the gross throw-away ethic of big tech profiteers like Apple.

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  • Wed, Nov 17, 2021 - 10:55am

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    Terminator said:

    Waze apparently doesn't track you either

    Waze is fully owned by Google/Alphabet, I wouldn't count too much on your privacy

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  • Wed, Nov 17, 2021 - 11:33am

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    000 said:

    Sorry to learn of your vegan experience. I also have found that it's not something to tinker with over the long-term outside of a vegan culture that includes it or a studied understanding of dietary biology. For me it was oxilates--ouuuuch! (no more chia pudding for me) and then the vegetable  oil scam of the century.

    Linoleic acid (LA) makes up the bulk — about 60% to 80% — of omega-6 and is the primary contributor to nearly all chronic diseases. While considered an essential fat, when consumed in excessive amounts, LA acts as a metabolic poison.

    Beyond that, maybe rummaging around in here (https://alanwatts.org/quotes/) might be interesting if not funny.

    Have a better day sir.

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  • Wed, Nov 17, 2021 - 11:47am

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    Waze! you must be kidding. My visiting family member received a red light ticket from NYC via the car rental and since I was in the car with him, neither of us could figure out how or where. I suggested he look in his Waze history, yeah, they track you and we are now convinced that the location and time suggest a fraud is being perped. Maybe the tracking meme is a bit over blown. Additionally, within the next five years, ("in the year 2525)...if man does survive", "they" won't need your devises to find you. especially if you've been nano-vaxxed, LOL

    And every living thing will be commodified, secularized, and profit extracted for the good of humanity. Anyone investing in Natural Resource Funds? (you are the enemy)

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  • Wed, Nov 17, 2021 - 3:38pm

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    Shining Hector said:

    Yeah, I know, which is why you use Magic Earth as the default, but Waze still has better maps as a backup. Apparently as long as you don't log into Waze it doesn't track you, though. Sometimes practicality means picking the least questionable alternative.

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  • Sat, Nov 20, 2021 - 8:06am

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    iSecurityGuru said:

    Yes, the baseband processor is another worry in terms of security. Security researchers have found a lot of bugs in the baseband processor.

    But whether an exploit in the baseband processor can lead to an exploit in the application processor (which runs Android, iOS) depends on the architecture of smartphone design. If both the baseband and application processors share the same memory, then this will be a serious cybersecurity weakness. I expect the latest smartphones will be designed in such a way as to segregate both processors from each other so that an exploit in the baseband processor will not lead to a compromise in the application processor.

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  • Sun, Nov 21, 2021 - 2:48am

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    tikkaa

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  • Tue, Nov 23, 2021 - 3:49pm

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    Happy with deGoogled Pixel 4a running CalyxOS

    Hi group, wanted to share that I switched from iPhone to a deGoogled Google Pixel 4a and am running CalyxOS.

    Switching was much easier than I expected. Updates are provided monthly and work very well. I am able to run almost all apps that I need. And I am free from big tech Wi-Fi tracking and so on. My phone is mine again, working for me, on what I want it to do. Pretty happy.

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  • Thu, Nov 25, 2021 - 9:10am

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    Getting Serious

    Nice article, well thought out analysis of the Freedom Phone.

    While on the topic, if you want to get real serious about privacy/anonymity then it's going to take some serious work. The good news is there are some serious resources out there.

    If you have an iPhone, check this out: https://inteltechniques.com/ios15.html If you do nothing else, at least run through Section IV and Section VIII. Anyone can do that!

    If you want more, here's the sort of thing you need to be comfortable doing: https://inteltechniques.com/grapheneos.html

    If you're not overly intimidated, then you should probably get this guy's book. Here's a taste of how deep he goes: https://inteltechniques.com/blog/2021/08/27/the-privacy-security-osint-show-episode-232/

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