"What do you believe to be truth?" Survey

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"What do you believe to be truth?" Survey

In the interest of starting an entertaining discussion (things have been a little slow around here lately) I wanted to ask everyone to participate in an informal survey. The objective is quite simple:

List five to ten things that you believe to be truths in the present moment of your life.

Assume that you are on your deathbed at this very moment:

  • What has your life taught you?
  • What advice would you want to pass on to your children?
  • What is your truth?

Obviously, for the sake of community harmony, we need to keep this discussion "religion free", but anything else is fair game in this survey. I would like to ask that before you discuss another's input to this survey, that you first provide your own input.

Thanks for participating.

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Actions speak louder than words

Wisdom is not as common as sense

Family matters more than ______ (Fill in the blank with whatever you are chasing)

Fear and anger take years off your life, and poisons the years you do have

and for JAG.... Peak Oil is Real! Tongue out

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Don't believe everything you hear/read

Family matters first (+1 with Aaron here)

Don't just talk about it.....  DO IT!

Waste nothing

Never measure something's value with money

If it sounds too good to be true, it is!

Stick to your principles, no matter what.

Integrity counts for way more than credibility. Once you have integrity, credibility comes naturally.

The planet's warming!  :-)

Oil's running out fast!

Mike

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Oh, fun thread JAG!   Here we go:

   The best way to solve  a problem is to avoid it in the first place.

   The little things in life are the big things.

   Treat others as you would have them treat you.  Unless they mess with you. 

   There are no guarantees in life.

   Cherish what and who you have in your life now.

   Friends are the best.

  

  

 

 

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The real news from Gitmo Nation - (Curry.com)

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Climate Gate

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I can't participate because ******** may not be discussed.   When I look at what has happened to our nation, now I understand.  Sadly.

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Once I recognize that my mental presentations about external reality are based solely on my past experiences, I know that I cannot observe external reality as it is, but can recognize reality only according to the levels of subjectivy of my relative mind.

As long as I believe that my subjective perceptions of external phenomena are real, attachments will accumulate in my relative mind.

Once I recognize that my perceptions of external phenomena depend entirely on my subjectivity, phenomena cease to produce attachments in my relative mind.

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Damnthematrix wrote:

Family matters first (+1 with Aaron here)

While I doubt you meant it, you flatter me sir. That is, of course, if you are mistaking me for Aaron Moyer, and not Aaron Spelling.

Mike, this is the first compliment you have ever given me. I'll take it, even if you didn't mean it!

PS, we couldn't agree more about the oil situation, I was just poking at JAG a bit since he is less than 100% convinced.

Rog

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True happiness comes from within and can never be obtained through "things"

Most things are not as they first seem, especially everything (that's an attempted Yogi Bera style observation).

True wealth and safety is measured by the % of basic necessities you yourself can harness off your own land (or trade for via surplus off your own land).

Change is everywhere and always occurring, even if you don't realize it.

 

 

 

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 If  we do not have freedom of ******* we are dead already .

1  Love is unconditional .... if there are conditions it isn't love .  *** is love .  Love does not puff itself up nor is prideful.

2 , love your father and mother

3.   do not lie, steal , or shed innocent blood

4.   do not have a heart that thinks of wicked things

5     above all else there is nothing to bad to be forgiven  if you are truly sorry  you did it and not  just sorry you got caught .

 

 

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My things in no particular order

  • Everyone has their own agenda, just try to make sure your agenda's are compatible.
  • Everyone lies, sometimes about little stuff, sometimes about big stuff, the reason why they lie is more important than the lie.
  • The only person you can 100% rely on is yourself, all others fall from this exponentially, 95% reliance on family 80% reliance on close friends, 50% reliance on friends etc.
  • Don't sweat the small stuff, and it's all small stuff
  • Don't take anything at face value
  • You only have one life, have fun with it, if you're not having fun think about what you're trying to achieve and why
  • I don't know what I don't know
  • Your health is your most important asset
  • Your family is your second most important asset
  • Specialism is for insects

 

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(marking this thread so I remember to come back and participate when I have a little time to think)

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Here's my first truth:

Trying to discuss the issue of truth without consideration of the tenets of the great religions of the world is like sex without touching, seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting, or speaking.  It lacks something.

Here's my second truth:

Never hold your breath unless you're underwater or something smells really bad.

 

 

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Ready wrote:
Damnthematrix wrote:

Family matters first (+1 with Aaron here)

While I doubt you meant it, you flatter me sir. That is, of course, if you are mistaking me for Aaron Moyer, and not Aaron Spelling.

Mike, this is the first compliment you have ever given me. I'll take it, even if you didn't mean it!

PS, we couldn't agree more about the oil situation, I was just poking at JAG a bit since he is less than 100% convinced.

Rog

OOOPS....  sorry about the mixup.....  I did mean you of course, got your avatars mixed up now Aaron'e changed his, and haven't you also changed your screen name...?

Mike

Sometimes easily confused :-)

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It's been a long time since I posted. Looks like this would be fun.

I am not sure what classifies as forbidden. I'll do my best not to let philosophy wonder into dogma.

 

I am not in charge. - A correlary: this is a profoundly good thing.

Life is precious. To treat it as such is a joyful thing. To neglect this fact is a great sadness.

Love and beauty, facets of truth, are the ultimate expressions of the universe. It is good to propagate them.

Abundance in this universe is perpetually available, although not always in manifestations we recognize.

Family does come first. All people and living things are my family. We are all literally descended from stardust. We are that special.

There are few things in life as good as great sushi, few things worse than bad sushi.

All things in moderation, including moderation.

 

Cheers!

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Being from Wisconsin.... Nothing is better than a cold beer after a hard days work and nothing can undo a hard days work more than cold beer.

From playing chess... A plan is only worth while when you are on the offensive, when on defense it is better to be adaptable.

From Jim Croce... You don't spit into the wind.

It is impossible to expect the unexpected, for once you do, it no longer is.

Life is change.

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Interspersing the serious and humor......

1.  The sun rises and sets in my wife's eyes.

2.  The moon rises and sets in my children's eyes.

3.  I would lay down my life in an instant for either 1 or 2 above.

4.  I do things with my children because I did them with my father, not because I didn't.

5.  The CF Martin D-28 is the finest flatpicking dreadnought guitar made in the world.

6.  I will not eat garbanzo beans.

7.  Everyone knows something you do not and you should learn from them.  (You have read that before)

8.  Everybody knows the difference between right and wrong - some choose to act contrary to what they know to be right.

9.  One man gathers what another man spills.

10.  A Force 12 storm off the coast of Norway in December is a significant emotional event - even at a depth of 400 feet.

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   adding this to my above list  .     You can't make people happy .... they have to make that choice for  themself .

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1. Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away forever, it only gets bigger down the road

2. Believe in yourself, especially when nobody else does.

3. Go your own way for your own reasons.

4. One real friend is much better than thousands of acquaintances.

5. Follow the data, ignore the rhetoric.

6. If it were easy, everyone would be doing it.

7. If people think you are crazy, then you are probably on the right track.

8. If you don't know, say you don't know. 

9. Debt is a modern form of slavery. It is better to be free and poor, than wealthy in apprearance and inslaved.

10. Forget ***** Oil is our ***.

11. We cannot consume or grow our way out of our problems.

12. Loyalty is the most important trait. (That one is from my Grandfather, WWII, Korea, Vietnam Vet)

13. If you are lucky enough to find a really good woman, don't **** it up. 

14. Honesty really is the best policy.

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"The secret of life is enjoying the passage of time."

The artistry, the eloquence, and the simple wisdom of James Taylor

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Music shares a synchronicity with the human soul. We can live without it, but shouldn't.

Fossil fuels, or the lack thereof, (either one) will forever change our way of life.

Ecology and economy come from the same root, and should not be thought of separately.

Our nation (US) lost its way when football replaced baseball as the national pasttime.

There is no more worthy pursuit than rearing children.

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Nothing sweet or sappy to say:

1.) As a people we have lost our collective memory. Everything repeats in cycles.

2.) Indoctrinating people into religion (any religion) is like giving a child a loaded gun.

3.) Everyone thinks they are a 'good person'.

4.) Everyone loves crazy until crazy loves them back.

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Just one to add: My Dad used to ask me "Is that something you would advise your little sister to do?"  If no, then I should rethink my options.

 

So then the question is would you take your own advice to someone else?

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Always ask yourself "Who does this benefit".

People are inherently trusting. And to their demise.

Strive to be a little less ignorant everyday.

The culture is coming apart at the seams. 300 million people in this nation and 95% of them operate as adult children.

People will often believe what they want to believe and then run off and find the "facts" to prove their pre-determined position. When that doesn't work they'll laugh at you.

You must always be at the ready to admit that you're wrong.

 

 

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Thanks everyone for your contributions to this thread....Here is my 2 cents:

  • Truth is discovered not within the content of thought, but in the absence of thought.
  • The thinking process is a tool, not an identity. 
  • Suffering is compounded by the avoidance of suffering.
  • That which you use to define yourself as good today, will be what that you use to define yourself as bad tomorrow, and vice versa. Avoid defining yourself in any way, good or bad.
  • Posture is the only effective means of affecting mind. Don’t slouch.
  • Biological viability (health) is achieved by recreating the lifestyle, culture, and diet of your ancestors in your daily life.
  • Pain and suffering are not just sensations, they are information. Seek to understand and  learn from their message.
  • Don’t listen to me, I'm an idiot.

oh yeah....and peak oil is for wimps...Tongue out (take that Ready)


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1. "Man strives and God laughs." -- Yiddish saying.

2. Pessimism, same as optimism but more realistic.

3. It's difficult to adjust one's watch while falling from an airplane.

4. "The mind is alone the clear, the truth dwells in the deeps." -- Goethe

 

Edit:  For the minims see:  http://www.tweller.com/minims/

 

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Is it just me, or does it seem as if the dark clouds have passed?

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As your friend and resident Meteorologist, I'd say they have indeed ;)

Cheers!

Aaron

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I'm sure that somewhere between 22 minutes and 2 days from now I'll think these are incomplete or poorly-considered points, but here goes:

1.  Keep a very large Grain of Salt handy (say, the size of a basketball).  When people try to bludgeon you into submission with Conventional Wisdom, bludgeon back with the Grain of Salt.  Note that Grain of Salt smashes Conventional Wisdom in rock-paper-scissors reality.

2.  Don't enter into deals/relationship with people until you understand what they value.

3.  The world is plumb crazy (I had a better metaphor involving bat guano and/or 10 pounds of som'n-som'n in a 5 pound bag but I'm attempting to hold onto my last ingot of decorum) right now.  If what you're doing is seen as 'smart' or 'obvious' by the vast majority, you're in deep deep...uh...guano.

4.  Your wealth is equal to the wealth of yourself plus everyone in your life that you count as kin (blood or 'found').

5.  Wealth ≠ 'Money'.  "Wealth" = anything tangible or intangible that allows you to live a healthy, self-determined and happy life.  Understand that if you're happy 1/3 of the time you're doing pretty good these days.

6.  Come to grips with your mortality with all possible speed.  Once you master that conundrum (and all that comes with it), all the rest of this stuff gets a LOT simpler.  You may even find it ups your 'happy' time from 1/3 to 2/5s.  And hey, 7% ain't nothin' when it comes to happiness

VIVA -- Sager

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r wrote:

1. "Man strives and God laughs." -- Yiddish saying.

2. Pessimism, same as optimism but more realistic.

3. It's difficult to adjust one's watch while falling from an airplane.

4. "The mind is alone the clear, the truth dwells in the deeps." -- Goethe

 

Edit:  For the minims see:  http://www.tweller.com/minims/

 

r -

#2 is epic and I am going to use it often.

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My .02 cents worth:

1) Be careful of viewing things in absolute terms. Life is a combination of gradient scales and we reside in the space between them.

2) Pay attention to the trends in your life. That can tell you a lot about where you may be headed. Change can often be affected by small adjustments in your trends/tendencies than radical moves.

3) Change may be the only constant. Use it to manuver through life.

 

Coop

 

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