What Is Democratic Socialism?

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Carl Veritas
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What Is Democratic Socialism?

From the Democratic Socialists Of America:

".....  WE BELIEVE THAT SOCIAL AND  ECONOMIC DECISIONS SHOULD BE MADE BY THOSE WHOM THEY MOST AFFECT."

 Goods are produced for profit using private property.     Can someone  explain exactly how their ideology translate into legislation? 


 

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I'll try

While I can't claim to have intimate knowledge of the socialist agenda, I'll give it a shot. They believe that as the recipients of YOUR money, they are the most affected and thus should be able to decide how much and under what terms it is given to them. In other words: "what's yours is mine" and since it's now mine, I should get to decide how much I get.

"Goods are produced for profit using private property"

Very good point. As we've seen over and over again, the amount of goods being produced drops dramatically in socialist countries. The fundamental problem with socialists and communists is that they don't understand incentives. I work my butt off and I'm well rewarded for doing so. Under a socialist regime, in which the economic benefit of busting my butt is greatly diminished, I'd work far less. That should be self-evident to everyone, but for some reason it's not.

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Collectivism. Watch G.

Collectivism. Watch G. Edward Griffin's videos on youtube. Social democrats are socialists renamed. Socialism is a type of collectivism.

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Democratic Socialism
Ayala wrote:

Very good point. As we've seen over and over again, the amount of goods being produced drops dramatically in socialist countries. The fundamental problem with socialists and communists is that they don't understand incentives.

Exactly, the People's Republic of China is an excellent example.  Foot in mouth

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not to be

The pendulum has already swung way to far to the left and as a result it is now starting to swing back to the right.  Swinging too far to the left has caused simply terrible problems that have jacked up the entire country.  Now we are paying the price and we will continue to pay the price.  One of the big problems swinging left has created is a huge class of dependency.  This is rotting us from within.  We have to get that under control.  In order to get it under control we are going to have to cut government spending at every level a substantial amount.  This is going to be painful and will no doubt lead to some social unrest.  Making people who have become reliant on the government become more self reliant is tough.  Just look what is happening is Wisconsin - it is a perfect example.  The tax  payers are experiencing a forced reduction in their standard of living.  The government employees are not a privileged class with super cheap medical and retirement.  They are going to end up with the same deal the private sector has been getting for years.  They are not very happy as paying a lot for your medical and paying a lot for your retirement is not as good as having it basically handed over to you for very little.  So it seems terrible to them when they are put back on an even keel as the private sector has been for many years.  We have to cut the military, social security, medicaid, medicare, welfare in all its hundreds of various forms.  The same goes for business welfare.  Good bye farm subsidies, good bye strange loop holes.  It all has to be cut.  There is going to be a howl of despair as the cutting happens.  I have done my share of howling and I am sure there is more to come.  It is easy to spend, it is tough to cut.

The socialist gig is not to be.  We headed that way for a while and it is bankrupting us.  Now we will head back toward self reliance for a while.  Personally, even though it is painful to cut, I always  feel better after it is over and I am more self reliant.  There is something good to be said for self reliance. 

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