Is this true? NAIS will take away farmers right...

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Is this true? NAIS will take away farmers right...

found this on another forum: is it true? Seems like the idea of buying farmland is now being controlled by the Feds:

You would think that that would be a good idea - but they are one step ahead of you. Through programs such as the National Animal Identification System (NAIS) and others, they are moving to take control of any real estate that has anything to do with "food" - the NAIS sucks in people who even only have one animal as a pet (on a list of over 30 species) - such as a llama, alpaca, miniature horse, potbelly pig, PARROT, etc. All inclusive, no exceptions. A lady we know has a 35 year old Appaloosa horse on 40 acres in the middle of nowhere - he's not a threat to anything and could die tomorrow - but under the NAIS she will be required to sign up the whole 40 acres because of that ONE old horse. The first step (and they tell us THE most important thing they want from the animal id program) is signing up your real estate for the "Premise ID Number" (PIN) - the lobbyist for our state's realtor's association told us two years ago (after looking at the USDA documents we showed him) that this "puts a permanent encumberance on your title!" He was shocked. There is also an annual "fee" (can you say HIDDEN TAX/LICENSE TO FARM?) and an annual audit (at their time of choosing whether you know it or not) and GPS trained on your place 24 hours a day to make sure you aren't cheating. Sell to another person - the PIN goes with the real estate so the new buyer has to buy the property KNOWING it has all this stuff going with it (people are already turning down properties when they find out they have a PIN). The USDA documents state that this is for "in perpetuity"...whether you have any animals on that property ever again or not. Forever. This tells us that the NAIS is not about food safety or animal disease - it's about taking control of our real estate when we sign that paper. We are referred to as "stakeholders" (anybody play poker?) in the USDA documents and our animals are "part of the national herd". !! Our "property" is "premise" (not protected under the Constitution like property is). Words matter, baby, like Mr. Clinton taught us.

Crop growers have already been taken over - mostly through the use of "subsidy monies". In 1942 the Supreme Court ruled in Wickerd vs Filburn that what the federal government subsidizes/finances, they have the right to regulate - and the FEDs have been working overtime ever since then to get every farmer, rancher, property owners, STATE, to take federal dollars from them. When you do, it puts you and your property under federal jurisdiction and there go your states rights. We have people in our state who took money to help build ponds - now they are scrambling to pay back the money so they can get out from under the Feds. Even hay growers (which our family did) were put under FDA/federal regulation/control in Dec. 2006 and most of them don't even know it. That's when we got out of the hay business after doing it our whole lives. We have farm ground that we rent to a family member but we won't allow them to take any USDA subsidy monies for crops grown on our ground - they bucked us until the Farm's law firm told them that we were correct about Wickerd vs Filburn.

Those of us who have acreages in rural areas are being put in a corner to either sign away our property rights to international entities (can you say international bankers?) or kick us off and force us to move to a designated city. They are going after our water rights, mineral rights, even using our septic tanks against us. Wetland Act, watershed lands, Noxious Weed Act (that one states that the definition of a "weed" is a plant that is "not indigenous to that area"...well, the okra in my garden is not indigenous to this area and would thus be a "weed"!) , etc. - all being used to make it impossible to continue living out here and push people out of the rural areas. They are even turning wild animals loose - in the last four years the government has turned 50 red wolves loose in our area here south of Hot Springs and large black bear on the mountain between us and Hot Springs - which are now raiding our neighbors' bee hives, getting hit by cars on the highway, etc. They also turned loose 20,000 rattlesnakes in the state. We are not allowed to kill these animals even if they are attacking livestock or something (and they are). We are expected to just live with them or else move out. One bear broke into a lady's back screen door with her right there in the kitchen cooking dinner. Two different friends of our's have lost ponies to bear - one was just last summer not a mile from us through the woods. Bear have been running the streets of Hot Springs and also the town south of us. In the spring of 2008, the side of Hot Springs where our son lives was put under a warning not to allow children or pets outside in the early morning hours or at dusk as a cougar was in the area and was killing people's dogs in their backyards. This is IN the city limits with lots of people around. We also have cougar where we live.

If you get a rural acreage and then take the government into your bed in any way, shape or form (such as animals/crops for ag exemptions) - you will regret it shortly. Steps are being taken right now in a "food safety" bill in the Senate to take control of our gardens, yards, kitchens, seeds - even the food from the grocery store in your car. We've been warning that they were going to do this for FOUR YEARS. Jurisdiction is being given to the FDA. Even over the peaches you canned yourself from the tree you planted in your own backyard.

So everytime I see someone posting about getting out into the country to try to survive, I cringe. They aren't going to LET you do that....

Just so you know - four parts to the NAIS: Premise ID; 15-digit ISO # on your animals (INTERNATIONAL Standards Organization -??!); reporting of all animal movement, co-mingling, births, deaths within 24 hours or face fines up to $500,000! (they'll own you one way or another); and DEPOPULATION. *One* animal (domestic or wild) turns up with a disease on their list (and some are not contagious at all) and a minimal 6 km radius kill zone is set up and all species SUSCEPTABLE to that disease are depopulated whether they are sick or not. In the UK we saw kill zones of up to 40 km for that first horrific FMD outbreak - millions of healthy animals died for less than 2,000 that tested positive...and then in 2006 they discovered that some of those they thought were positive were actually negative. The UK"s farming community has never recovered. And that's what they wanted.

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Re: Is this true? NAIS will take away farmers right...

More control always means less freedom. Ag or otherwise.

 

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Re: Is this true? NAIS will take away farmers right...

More control always means less freedom. Ag or otherwise.

 

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Re: Is this true? NAIS will take away farmers right...

Sounds like the Soviet Union. Better not buy a parrot!

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Why remote land may not be such a great deal . . .

Study this map carefully.  If you live in the red zones, the people who developed this map intend that you won't:

The areas that are colored light teal correspond to "Zones of Cooperation", in which, presumably we would be allowed to live, according to the various agencies that have signed onto this agenda. 

 

Funny how those light teal areas roughly correspond to, or are connected by, the proposed NAFTA superhighway:

Hmmm . . . All except for that long stretch from Mexico to Alaska . . . largely through essentially uninhabited countryside . . . Can't imagine what they'd want from all the way up in Alaska, can you?  And Mexico?  What have they got there that we'd be interested in transporting?

 

For more information, read the UN publication, Agenda 21.

 

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