Stunning Statistics About the War That Everyone Should Know

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Stunning Statistics About the War That Everyone Should Know

The US Currently Has 189,000 Personnel in Afghanistan  - complete article link

A hearing in Sen. Claire McCaskill’s Contract Oversightsubcommittee on contracting in Afghanistan has highlighted some important statistics that provide a window into the extent to which the Obama administration has picked up the Bush-era war privatization baton and sprinted with it. Overall, contractors now comprise a whopping 69% of the Department of Defense’s total workforce, “the highest ratio of contractors to military personnel in US history.” That’s not in one war zone—that’s the Pentagon in its entirety.

In Afghanistan, the Obama administration blows the Bush administration out of the privatized water. According to a memo[PDF] released by McCaskill’s staff,

“From June 2009 to September 2009, there was a 40% increase in Defense Department contractors in Afghanistan. During the same period, the number of armed private security contractors working for the Defense Department in Afghanistan doubled, increasing from approximately 5,000 to more than 10,000.”

At present, there are 104,000 Department of Defense contractors in Afghanistan. According to a report this week from the Congressional Research Service, as a result of the coming surge of 30,000 troops in Afghanistan, there may be up to 56,000 additional contractors deployed. But here is another group of contractors that often goes unmentioned: 3,600 State Department contractors and 14,000 USAID contractors. That means that the current total US force in Afghanistan is approximately 189,000 personnel (68,000 US troops and 121,000 contractors). And remember, that’s right now. And that, according to McCaskill, is a conservative estimate. A year from now, we will likely see more than 220,000 US-funded personnel on the ground in Afghanistan.

The evil empire is secretly using hired mercenaries to conduct their deadly and illegal wars against humanity.  From bases in Afghanistan, the storm troopers can easily attack Pakistan with unmanned drones to expand the war.  Wonder how much in Christmas bonuses were given to Blackwater executives and their "friends" in congress and the pentagon?

"But" you say, "don't worry, Obama will have us outta there by 2012."  Apparently this time frame is a deceptive lie as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton drops this bombshell:

We'll Still Be In Afghanistan in 50 or 60 Years  - complete article link

On December 1st, President Obama talked about withdrawing U.S. troops from Afghanistan within 18 months.  

But in testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee on December 2nd, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton actually gave a much longer horizon for the presence of U.S. troops in America:

"Senator UDALL.— So, in an ideal world, we would get the job done militarily in the short term; in the medium and long term, we would have a presence in the region, economically, diplomacy, and politically."

"Secretary CLINTON. Well, as we have with so many other countries— obviously, we have troops in a limited number of countries around the world; some have been there for 50, 60 years, but we have long-term economic assistance and development programs in many others. And we think that’s a likely outcome in both Afghanistan and Pakistan, that we would be there with a long-term commitment."

Remember also that - while the U.S. government has promised to withdraw by December 31, 2011 from Iraq - the U.S. is building numerous permanent military bases in that country. (see this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, and this). So talk is cheap.

We are going broke as a nation but don't worry, we can always borrow whatever we want to wage wars on muslim nations.  We know that increasingly, Pakistan is falling in the sights of the imperial war machine as the killing is expanding.  Now, the BBC reports that Yemen is the  new frontier in US ‘war on terror.’

And to be nice guys (stooges), the U.S. sends billions of dollars each year in foreign aid to Israel, Egypt, etc.  - every penny borrowed by taxpayers.  We simply cannot afford this insane foreign policy any longer in terms of blood, money and morality.  It is time to bring our troops home and to stop all foreign aid.

Larry

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Two things:

1. Suspect used PETN (Pentaerythritol tetranitrate) as explosive to destroy airplane in recent attempted attack. The Nigerian national, who was educated at a elite British school, was a engineering major. Good thing that the plot didnt unfold because that would probably cause another escalation in the current war on terror. It will only be a matter of time until a attack will be successfull. As the US continues its overseas battles, muslim militants will continue to bring the war home to us.

2. Machiavelli warned against using mercenaries. In ch 12 of The Prince, Machiavelli wrote that soldiers are much better to have then mercenaries. Below are two excerpts. (I do not support all the ideas of Machiavelli but his views on Mercenaries are interesting).

"I say, therefore, that the arms with which a prince defends his state are either his own, or they are mercenaries, auxiliaries, or mixed. Mercenaries and auxiliaries are useless and dangerous; and if one holds his state based on these arms, he will stand neither firm nor safe; for they are disunited, ambitious and without discipline, unfaithful, valiant before friends, cowardly before enemies; they have neither the fear of God nor fidelity to men, and destruction is deferred only so long as the attack is; for in peace one is robbed by them, and in war by the enemy. The fact is, they have no other attraction or reason for keeping the field than a trifle of stipend, which is not sufficient to make them willing to die for you. They are ready enough to be your soldiers whilst you do not make war, but if war comes they take themselves off or run from the foe; which I should have little trouble to prove, for the ruin of Italy has been caused by nothing else than by resting all her hopes for many years on mercenaries"

and,

"I wish to demonstrate further the infelicity of these arms. The mercenary captains are either capable men or they are not; if they are, you cannot trust them, because they always aspire to their own greatness, either by oppressing you, who are their master, or others contrary to your intentions; but if the captain is not skilful, you are ruined in the usual way.

And if it be urged that whoever is armed will act in the same way, whether mercenary or not, I reply that when arms have to be resorted to, either by a prince or a republic, then the prince ought to go in person and perform the duty of captain; the republic has to send its citizens, and when one is sent who does not turn out satisfactorily, it ought to recall him, and when one is worthy, to hold him by the laws so that he does not leave the command. And experience has shown princes and republics, single-handed, making the greatest progress, and mercenaries doing nothing except damage; and it is more difficult to bring a republic, armed with its own arms, under the sway of one of its citizens than it is to bring one armed with foreign arms. Rome and Sparta stood for many ages armed and free. The Switzers are completely armed and quite free.

Of ancient mercenaries, for example, there are the Carthaginians, who were oppressed by their mercenary soldiers after the first war with the Romans, although the Carthaginians had their own citizens for captains. After the death of Epaminondas, Philip of Macedon was made captain of their soldiers by the Thebans, and after victory he took away their liberty"

Because mercenaries work for their own gain, and not for the republic, they have no loyalty to the state, Mach argues. It is a interesting trend that the US is following, as more and more modern mercenaries are being used. Perhaps since less people are willing to fight for the nation because it has become corrupt, the state has to seek out profiteers to do its dirty work. But by doing so the country is putting itself at risk, as these mercenaries only have loyalty to their pocket, and not the country.

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Hi Larry,

Not to toot my own posts, but we just finished watching the documentary, Superpower, which spends a good bit of time on this military outsourcing and also that as there was no oversight in this area, the gov't outsourced the oversight, to guess who.... Lockheed Martin (doesn't that make you feel better?)

Anyway I set it up as a separate post, as it's now out for free on youtube and well worth a watch.

http://www.peakprosperity.com/forum/documentary-superpower-winner-6-awar...

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The article seems to make repeated mention of the total number of DoD contractors and the higher numbers of such compared to troops, but is this really surprising?  According to the article only 10,000 of the some 121,000 are private security contractors.  So while these could be considered mercenaries, what are the other 111,000?  Odds are these are support staff, and not mercenaries by any means.... administrative staff, cooks, janitors, engineers, technicians, nurses, and what-have-you.  Haven't most armies throughout history required some number of civilian support staff?  Putting aside for a moment the issue of whether we should be there or not, doesn't any modern military need a substantial number of support personnel to maintain itself?  Now personally I do think the use of 10,000 security contractors is questionable, but I can see where having civilian contractor support staff is reasonable, especially with the military's heavy use of new technology. 

My primary objection to the contracting biz is the current corruption and waste involved and how it's carried out, not so much that private contractors are involved in support positions in the first place.  Who knows what percentage of those contractor positions are largely unnecessary and exist mostly to justify an overpriced cost-plus contract.  Also, the pay disparity between some contractors and the average military man/woman is often embarrassing; both positions involve risk and hardship to be sure, but one would expect most of those in the service over there endure more and should at least get proportional compensation.  Of course, if they did that they just might have to be more judicious in where, how often, and how much the military is utilized.  Heaven forbid. Undecided

- Nickbert

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Current doctrine indicates a "Tooth to Tail" ratio of as high as 27:1.

For every guy out there specifically tasked to pull a trigger, there needs to be up 27 people to support that fighter.

It doesn't matter who flips the burgers at the base, it aint gonna be cheap.

Finally, I agree with poster who advocates removal of American Troops from all fields of endeavor, and American treasure from all its various government to government global charities.

I wonder what the true repercussions of that would be, as a cost in human lives. Anyone hazard a guess?

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