Re:Thomas Jefferson: "Educate and inform the who mass of the people...They are the only reliance for presvation of our liberty."

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Re:Thomas Jefferson: "Educate and inform the who mass of the people...They are the only reliance for presvation of our liberty."
Hi,
 Today I sent hundreds of emails to ALL  of the tv & radio  talkshows, magazine & newspaper editors. It's easy using http://www.conservativeusa.com  Just click emails to congress & media. Your comments are welcomed.
--- On Sat, 3/28/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:


From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: fed 2 most americans
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 9:22 AM

Most Americans believe that the Federal Reserve is part of the government. They are wrong. It is a privately held corporation owned by stockholders. The Federal Reserve System is owned by the largest banks in the United States. There are Class A, B, and C shareholders. The owner banks and their shares in the Federal Reserve are a secret. Why is this a secret? It is likely that the biggest banks in the country are the major shareholders. Does this explain why Citicorp (C), Bank of America (BAC) and JP Morgan (JPM), despite being insolvent, are being propped up by Ben Bernanke and Timothy Geithner?
Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 9:02 AM
SECRET SOCIETIES ARE THE MASTERS OF OUR UNIVERSE
"The Illuminati has planned a financial collapse that will make the great depression look like a picnic  http://www.u-r-next.com/illuminati.html
THE QUESTIONS:
1) Who controls the United States government and formulates its foreign and domestic policy?
SIMPLIFIED ANSWER: International bankers working through an international network, represented in the United States by the Council on Foreign Relations and The Trilateral Commission.
2) How do they manage to control both major political parties at the top without public knowledge?
SIMPLIFIED ANSWER: CFR/TC members, heavily infiltrated into both parties, oppose each other at election time. Top media controllers prevent public knowledge of this. Delegates and voters alike need this information as shown in our analyses in chart form.
3) Why does the United States continue its slide downward into socialism regardless of which political party is in office?
SIMPLIFIED ANSWER: Socialism is the goal of those who control the U.S. This means total socialistic control of all resources, communications, commerce, wealth, and people, by a small, powerful group. As mentioned above, both parties are infiltrated, hence the continued slide downward. The same people remain in control, regardless of party in power.
4) What plans are being made for the future of our nation?
SIMPLIFIED ANSWER: The NEW WORLD ORDER is being planned. This would be a socialist, One-World government, with no Constitutional guarantees of individual freedoms.
5) What can a concerned individual do to help restore sane, Constitutional government?
SIMPLIFIED ANSWER: Assume an active interest in the future of our nation, working at the grass roots level. Become a delegate for maximum power in the election process. A majority of patriotic delegates would turn our nation back to sound Constitutional principles of greatness.
http://100777.com/node/298
Naturally if you can create money out of thin air, your first instinct is to buy tangible assets with it. There is a powerful impulse to use debt to control nations and take over their real assets. This is the essence of the so-called Third World Debt crisis. Dedicated to owning all wealth and enslaving humanity, an irresistible vampire has been unleashed upon the world. Much of Mullins book is devoted to the subterfuge by which the United States was drawn into its lethal embrace. In 1913, the Owen-Glass Bill gave mostly foreign-controlled banks (posing as the Federal Reserve) the right to create currency based on the credit of the United States government and to charge it interest for doing it! To accomplish this, the bankers had to rig the election of 1913 in order to get Woodrow Wilson elected. Then their stooges in Congress passed the legislation on December 22 after their opponents had gone home for Christmas. This act establishes the most gigantic trust [cartel] on earth, Congressman Charles Lindbergh said at the time. When the President signs this bill; the invisible government by the Monetary Power will be legalized. The people may not know it immediately but the day of reckoning is only a few years removed. Mullins explains that the legislation passed just in time for the American people to finance World War One.
http://www.fdrs.org/the_new_world_order_plan.html
 of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses... This little coterie...run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen...seizes...our executive officers...legislative bodies...schools...
courts...newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.”
N.Y. Mayor, John Hylan
"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson."
- U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a letter written Nov. 21, 1933 to Colonel E. Mandell House
This is something that America needs to see. Politics are planned. They don’t happen by accident. The Bilderberg Society decides who will be offered up as presidential candidates. The voting process is for show. The true rulers already have their patsy picked and planned ahead of time.
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Question from a skeptic. If this cabal of internationalists, as I have read, are responsible for the Russian Revolution, the rise of the Nazis, the Holocaust, the Viet Nam War and The Cambodian Killing Fields, do you honestly think that a letter writing campaign would appeal to the better angels of their nature?

Seriously. 

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I collect quotes from historical figures and there are many for whichI would like to hear a retional explanation. 

On of them was referenced in the original post and was apparently derived from a letter U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt wrote on Nov. 21, 1933 to Colonel E. Mandell House stating, ""The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson.

To Pete in Florida or anyone else who might care to respond; why would Roosevelt write such words if their were not some truth behind them?  What ulterior motivation might he have had?

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Set. I never said that a shadow governmental power structure didn't exist. I question the global new world order hypothesis (notice that I didn't toss a perjorative slam in there by calling you a "conspiracy theorist"? Language, all language has a purpose).

However, I think the evidence is much stronger, much more compelling that the concept of the "Eastern Elitist Establishment" directing monetary policy, BOTH, repeat BOTH political parties, social movements, education, and even a large degree of the eclesiastical structure. "Eastern" is a historical vestige. Clearly the financial elite families that own the United States are geographically diverse. 

That I am more sure of than not. I do believe that we live in an aristocracy, masquerading as a democracy, with potent media and social directors fooling the public into thinking that the chains slapped on them are not only good, but represent progress. 

Tell me. Do you have any understanding of the Hegalian Dialectic? 

Thesis -> anti-thesis -> synthesis. 

The synthesis becomes the new thesis and the cycle repeats until the desired outcome is reached. 

Brainwash, 

Rinse, 

Repeat. 

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Pete,

I was merely asking a question using language, language that has a purpose, like all language.  I didn’t accuse you of not believing in a “shadow government.”    I didn’t even mention anything about “the “global new world order hypothesis.”  I’m unsure as to whether you are trying to baffle me with your BS or dazzle me with your brilliance as I don’t see how the Hegalian Dialectic relates to my simple question.

You want to know if I have any understanding of Hegalian Dialectic.  Sure, doesn’t everyone?  My understanding of it might not be in agreement with yours as you appear to place it on a higher pedestal than I do. 

The German philosopher Georg Hegel believed in an absolute spirit at the center of the universe that guided all reality and that historical events could not have happened any other way.  I wonder what you consider an “absolute spirit” to be or what the “center of the universe” is supposed to imply and if there actually is a center to this universe, why this absolute spirit needs to be at that potentially hypothetical place in order for the rest of his theory to be valid. 

He believed that historical events could not have happened any other way and in my own simple mind, I find this to be a rather useless theory as it would be impossible to prove or disprove.  Hegel also believed that historical events represent not only change but progress; and one historical event is replaced by its opposite and later these two extremes come to a resolution.  I don’t believe that equating change to progress makes any sense and it actually reminds me of the common misconception that is an important component of the Crash Course; that growth equates to prosperity.  This seems a little absolute for me to consider valid and I’d like to know if you could perhaps clarify this and how it relates to his “pendulum theory” which revolves around the notion that historical events swing from one extreme to the other before the pendulum eventually comes to rest in the center.  As I understand it, the extreme phases are called the thesis and the antithesis and the pendulum coming to rest at the center is considered the resolution or synthesis.  I must plead ignorance as the pendulum metaphor appears either too simplistic or perhaps it’s just beyond my limited comprehension.  Hegel believed that human beings can comprehend the unfolding of history and he also considered the human experience as absolute and knowable.  I wonder at what point he considered our ability to comprehend the unfolding of history; past, present, or future.  Perhaps you could shed some light on that for me if you find the time.  A lot of Hegel’s theory seems vague, subjective, and of little merit or value to a simple guy like me, but then I’m not a famous German philosopher from the 19th century.

You mention an "Eastern Elitist Establishment" and I’m curious as to which groups or individuals comprise this group.

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Set.

Thesis + antithesis = new synthesis.

If I am an extreme right winger and you are an extreme left winger and I can get you to compromise your political beliefs with mine, you will become more conservative and me, seemingly, more liberal. But I'm lying to you, I am still an extreme right winger.

But the next election cycle I will get you to merge with me again and you will become even more right wing. This continues until I have you where I want you, a fellow extreme right winger.

It's one way political leaders get a population to agree to be governed the way they want to govern the population. For example, Karl Marx utilized Hegel’s pholosophy in his writings.

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