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Restore the Republic

It's hard to imagine that this hasn't found its way onto CM, but thanks to BB for posting this, and more, over on my blog, CloudfireOnFire.com.  Warning:  Rated CT (No, not conspiracy theory) . . . Do not click the arrow, if you don't want a Catchy Tune and lyrics going through your head for a while . . .

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP-IM7maxbI

In our struggle against tyrrany, I'm quite clear that violence is futile, and I'm not convinced that Ron Paul's End the Fed campaign will liberate us, but, nevertheless it's refreshing to hear the wake up call in some genre other than rap . . .

 

 

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And if you liked that . . . .

You're gonna love this:

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Excellent!  Thanks, Cloudfire for posting!

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That is indeed one catchy catchy tune.  Thanks c1oud!

IMO it's too late for the First American Republic.  Perhaps some tough lessons will be learned in the next 5 years or so, so when it comes time to reconstitute...

Viva -- Sager

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 . . . when it comes time to reconstitute...

I like that turn of phrase, Sager!

 

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John Foggerty Wrote Us a Song . . .

John Foggerty wrote a song for all of us.

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C1, I'm no fan of country music (surrounded by it here in Texas), but I really liked that song. I just finished Ron Paul's book "End the Fed" and Its time for me to drive by his office and see what I can do to contribute. I hate politics, but hey, its time to do something, even if its hopeless.

Thanks for the tune...Viva Restore the Republic!

Jeff

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You're gonna love this:

I did!  Semper fi.

I went to a townhall meeting recently.  I sincerely believe our Congressman has our best interests at heart and I sincerely believe he tries to keep himself informed on the issues but I also sincerely he is misinformed or uninformed on the most critical issues and just doesn't "get it".  The crowd was probably 40% those who "get it" and 60% sheeple.  This is going to be one long uphill battle.

 

 

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IF 'PRO' IS THE OPPOSITE OF 'CON' WHAT IS THE OPPOSITE OF 'PROGRESS'?

 

_ _ _ GRESS.   PAT, I WOULD LIKE TO BUY THE LETTER C PLEASE. 

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You're gonna love this:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DAL3CZ9fCo&feature=related

 

You know, I keep playing this snippet over and over again . . . This is a scene that would have been, nay, it was common, only 30 years ago . . . What has happened to our men?  Why haven't they the courage of their convictions anymore?  Is this why the media has worked so hard to feminize them?  So that they wouldn't defend the integrity of their women, and the inviolability of their children?  Each time I look at this clip, I am reminded of the way men used to be:  true family defenders . . . and the way he matter-of-factly strides back and kisses his wife, who stands defiantly, in support of her husband . . . Call it corny, if you will . . . But this is the kind of family that TPTB fear  . . . They will never surrender their children to the state for indoctrination . . . They will never allow the community to raise their children, so that they will have to fear being reported by their own children . . .

I couldn't help but notice that this veteran marine mentioned that he was disabled . . . I can't help but wonder if this valiant soldier was injured by the vaccines that he received, and whether he suffers from Gulf War Syndrome, as a result . . . What an effective way to disable those who would defend us . . .

 

 

 

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IF 'PRO' IS THE OPPOSITE OF 'CON' WHAT IS THE OPPOSITE OF 'PROGRESS'?

 

_ _ _ GRESS.   PAT, I WOULD LIKE TO BUY THE LETTER C PLEASE. 

Goodun, JK!  Gimme a "C" . . . Gimme an "O". . .  Gimme an "N" . . .  . . . . . . .  . . What's dat spell? . . . . . Convicts! . . . What's dat spell? . . . . Convicts! . . . What's dat spell? . . . . CONVICTS!

 

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Cloudfire wrote:

You're gonna love this:

(Video of guy saying incorrect things that led me not to love it.)

I watched this video until the guy called the Nazi party socialist and I shut him off because I knew at that point he was just repeating talking points. I have a degree in history and, of course, studied that period .Hitler was an opportunist. The German Social Democrat Party were the only socialists at the time.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERnazi.htm

"Hitler had always been hostile to socialist ideas, especially those that involved racial or sexual equality. However, socialism was a popular political philosophy in Germany after the First World War."

According to Hitler, Jews were responsible for everything he did not like, including modern art, pornography and prostitution. Hitler also alleged that the Jews had been responsible for losing the First World War. Hitler also claimed that Jews, who were only about 1% of the population, were slowly taking over the country. They were doing this by controlling the largest political party in Germany, the German Social Democrat Party, many of the leading companies and several of the country's newspapers. The fact that Jews had achieved prominent positions in a democratic society was, according to Hitler, an argument against democracy: "a hundred blockheads do not equal one man in wisdom."

Hitler believed that the Jews were involved with Communists in a joint conspiracy to take over the world. Like Henry Ford, Hitler claimed that 75% of all Communists were Jews. Hitler argued that the combination of Jews and Marxists had already been successful in Russia and now threatened the rest of Europe. He argued that the communist revolution was an act of revenge that attempted to disguise the inferiority of the Jews. 

Hitler kept his fascism secret:

In an attempt to obtain financial contributions from industrialists, Hitler wrote a pamphlet in 1927 entitled The Road to Resurgence. Only a small number of these pamphlets were printed and they were only meant for the eyes of the top industrialists in Germany. The reason that the pamphlet was kept secret was that it contained information that would have upset Hitler's working-class supporters. In the pamphlet Hitler implied that the anti-capitalist measures included in the original twenty-five points of the NSDAP programme would not be implemented if he gained power.

Hitler began to argue that "capitalists had worked their way to the top through their capacity, and on the basis of this selection they have the right to lead." Hitler claimed that national socialism meant all people doing their best for society and posed no threat to the wealth of the rich. Some prosperous industrialists were convinced by these arguments and gave donations to the Nazi Party, however, the vast majority continued to support other parties, especially the right-wing German Nationalist Peoples Party (DNVP). 

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Cloudfire wrote:

You're gonna love this:

 

Well, not me. In my opinion, reeling off a set of questionable talking points has little to do with being a man. His bombastic attitude is to be pitied rather than applauded. As a Vet, he already is in the public health system and his comments about keeping his health insurance are a non-issue anyway. His further comments about "staying away  from his children" are bogus. I can't imagine that we would be better off with no public school system -- improve them yes, but he seems to say that there shouldn't be a public school system and certainly our President shouldn't talk to our kids

His comments about Hitler being a Socialist are nonsense. He wasn't, but rather as overtheillusion says, an opportunist taking advantage of the situation and using the then German Socialist party to gain power.

 

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JP and OTI;

All good points . . . I was not intending to respond to the content of his speech, but rather the willingness to speak truth to power.  That he isn't really clear about the truth is something that can be worked with . . . He can be further informed, and he can have his misunderstandings corrected . . . I was rather interested, for the purpose of this post, in his willingness to be heard in voicing his objections to what he perceived as an intrusion into his family and into his autonomy as the head of his household.  (Given the body language, I have little doubt that his wife would approve of this characterization.)  Too few fathers take a strong stand to protect their children and wives, these days . . .  This man can be better informed . . . he would then be useful in the fight against tyranny, by any name . . . But the man who is gutless, fearful, and cowering is of little use to his family or his nation or his unmentionable highest power, regardless of his education, political saavy, or cleverness . . . That's the point I was trying to make . . .

 

 

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 There's an element of showmanship, public display of emotion etc.. but what makes it effective are the core points...

 1) Stop trying to assume my responsibilties..  -  keep your hands off my kids.

  2) I honoured my oath.. how about you ?

 

 Integrity + emotional understanding.. powerful stuff.

 

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I agree with the idea of speaking truth to power -- there are still a few of us around who have little fear about doing so - as well as stand against all comers if my family or I are threatened.

Power seems to have become more and more insulated as time has gone on. I wonder how to influence the scam artists who have taken over our financial system at the expense of nearly all other humans on the planet. A vote here or there seems to have little effect - they say they'll stop the war, fix the health care system etc. etc. and for whatever reason they  bog down once they get in the position to possibly do something about it.

I am close to the conclusion that the system can't be changed by plan or organization and only will change by collapse and re-generation in a new form. We may be seeing the beginnings of that collapse of the system by its own weight at the present time with most/many of our institutions encountering problems that are so great as to deny solution by voluntary methods.

In the meantime, I'm working on being as ready as I can be.

My thought for today

Jim

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"I watched this video until the guy called the Nazi party socialist and I shut him off because I knew at that point he was just repeating talking points. I have a degree in history and, of course, studied that period .Hitler was an opportunist. The German Social Democrat Party were the only socialists at the time."

Excuse my ignorance but wasn't Nazi an acronym for National Socialist? I never heard of the "Opportunist Party" but it looks like many of our politicians, banksters , and wall street clowns might belong to it.

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I am close to the conclusion that the system can't be changed by plan or organization and only will change by collapse and re-generation in a new form. We may be seeing the beginnings of that collapse of the system by its own weight at the present time with most/many of our institutions encountering problems that are so great as to deny solution by voluntary methods.

Hi, again, JP;

It is likely that the system will collapse . . . but I am less than hopeful that the new system that arises will be either spontaneously generated by the will of the people, or better than what we have had.  Historically speaking, from ancient times, those who understood how to control populations also understood that chaotic conditions are ideal for reforming the world according to their vision.  As I recall, this was the occult meaning of the phoenix in in ancient cultures . . . powers that could resurrect from the ashes of collapsed civilizations, in a new form, but with the same bloodlines in control.  Hence, it appears that there are new political entities, but it's just the same ancient lines pulling the strings . . . Some say that the eagle, seen on various national emblems, is a thinly disguised phoenix and is representative of those same ancient powers . . .

 

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Cloudfire wrote:

You're gonna love this:

(Video of guy saying incorrect things that led me not to love it.)

I watched this video until the guy called the Nazi party socialist and I shut him off because I knew at that point he was just repeating talking points. I have a degree in history and, of course, studied that period .Hitler was an opportunist. The German Social Democrat Party were the only socialists at the time.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERnazi.htm

"Hitler had always been hostile to socialist ideas, especially those that involved racial or sexual equality. However, socialism was a popular political philosophy in Germany after the First World War."

According to Hitler, Jews were responsible for everything he did not like, including modern art, pornography and prostitution. Hitler also alleged that the Jews had been responsible for losing the First World War. Hitler also claimed that Jews, who were only about 1% of the population, were slowly taking over the country. They were doing this by controlling the largest political party in Germany, the German Social Democrat Party, many of the leading companies and several of the country's newspapers. The fact that Jews had achieved prominent positions in a democratic society was, according to Hitler, an argument against democracy: "a hundred blockheads do not equal one man in wisdom."

Hitler believed that the Jews were involved with Communists in a joint conspiracy to take over the world. Like Henry Ford, Hitler claimed that 75% of all Communists were Jews. Hitler argued that the combination of Jews and Marxists had already been successful in Russia and now threatened the rest of Europe. He argued that the communist revolution was an act of revenge that attempted to disguise the inferiority of the Jews. 

Hitler kept his fascism secret:

In an attempt to obtain financial contributions from industrialists, Hitler wrote a pamphlet in 1927 entitled The Road to Resurgence. Only a small number of these pamphlets were printed and they were only meant for the eyes of the top industrialists in Germany. The reason that the pamphlet was kept secret was that it contained information that would have upset Hitler's working-class supporters. In the pamphlet Hitler implied that the anti-capitalist measures included in the original twenty-five points of the NSDAP programme would not be implemented if he gained power.

Hitler began to argue that "capitalists had worked their way to the top through their capacity, and on the basis of this selection they have the right to lead." Hitler claimed that national socialism meant all people doing their best for society and posed no threat to the wealth of the rich. Some prosperous industrialists were convinced by these arguments and gave donations to the Nazi Party, however, the vast majority continued to support other parties, especially the right-wing German Nationalist Peoples Party (DNVP). 

What people called themselves and what people are, in actuality, are two different things.  For example, the Communists were anything but.  The same is true with many other repressive political parties with egalitarian names.  But the Nazis were the National Socialist German Worker's party so the guy had a point.  And do you know any politician, especially a dictatorial one, who isn't an opportunist?  Also, socialism at that time was more about class equality rather than about racial and/or sexual equality.   

 

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Cloudfire wrote:

You're gonna love this:

 

Well, not me. In my opinion, reeling off a set of questionable talking points has little to do with being a man. His bombastic attitude is to be pitied rather than applauded. As a Vet, he already is in the public health system and his comments about keeping his health insurance are a non-issue anyway. His further comments about "staying away  from his children" are bogus. I can't imagine that we would be better off with no public school system -- improve them yes, but he seems to say that there shouldn't be a public school system and certainly our President shouldn't talk to our kids

His comments about Hitler being a Socialist are nonsense. He wasn't, but rather as overtheillusion says, an opportunist taking advantage of the situation and using the then German Socialist party to gain power.

 

I think his speech was more passionate than bombastic.  But of course, none of the founding fathers ever spoke with passion.  And not all vets have all their health care needs taken care of by the public health system.  Also, he was taking issue with the speaker's patronizing attitude pertaining to health insurance, not the issue of his personal health insurance.  And he didn't speak against public education, he spoke against the indoctrination that can occur in that system.  Give the guy a break! 

With regards to the National Socialist Party, see my comments above.

 

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can't imagine that we would be better off with no public school system--improve them yes

I can't imagine anything more responsible for making us so much worse off...a monolithic govt controlled system to strip kids from homes, neighborhoods, communal life, and throw them into a processing factory which dumbs them down so they're ready to be debtors and wage/tax slaves, and also determines who will be allowed to the upper middle class, who will be stuck in the lower middle class, who will be in poverty based on utilitarian testing of rationalistic knowledge.  Notice I didn't say who gets in the upper class...that's predetermined...they go to private schools that have become completely separate based on wealth gap of the parents such that the kids coming out of them are ready to be upper class fascists who want the lower classes controlled (think I'm exaggerating? just wait til Paris Hilton's hollow classmates rule).

There is no improving this system...it's fundamentally flawed.  It was one of the 10 requirements of the communist manifesto.

I mentioned schools destroy communal life...some might say that the school IS communal life.  Nope.  Real community involves all generations and a sense of belonging whereas schools put everybody in the same age group together for no cohesive reason other than to compete against each other with no real mentoring, role models, love, etc.  Our true instinctual belonging based on family/tribe/neighborhood is deconstructed and replaced by school, i.e. state, identity.  

 

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I mentioned schools destroy communal life...some might say that the school IS communal life.  Nope.  Real community involves all generations and a sense of belonging whereas schools put everybody in the same age group together for no cohesive reason other than to compete against each other with no real mentoring, role models, love, etc.  Our true instinctual belonging based on family/tribe/neighborhood is deconstructed and replaced by school, i.e. state, identity.  

 

What a simple, but powerful observation . . . . . I always enjoy your posts, Strabes, as you show me the same old things, but with a fresh eye . . . And while you have a distinctly anti-tyrannical view, you never parrot the same old lines from the usual CT voices.  Your thinking is original, and your observations are fresh and detailed . . . Okay . . . . I'll go back to being a gumpy old lady now . . . .

 

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Thank you C1oudfire.  I struggle with associating myself with what some of the famous CT radio shows say because they package the message so extravagantly, because they seem paranoid, and because they leave so many holes.  I'd prefer not to be bucketed into the kook camp with them, but I've decided that's a necessary cost of speaking what I see as truth.  Despite these folks' flaws, the basic facts they report about tyranny coming down the pike jives far more with what I see in the world vs. what conventional wisdom would have us believe.  I almost want to start a radio show or a website to try making the story more mainstream because so many people are turned off by the primary CT spokespeople.  But it seems futile.  By definition "mainstream" requires a sizable audience, but you can only get that by submitting to the establishment.  

Anyway, thanks for the open eyes to notice my "fresh eye."  :)   Most on this site seem to remain open to dialogue rather than immediately bucketing people into camps...despite the many disagreements among folks here.  Refreshing.  

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"I watched this video until the guy called the Nazi party socialist and I shut him off because I knew at that point he was just repeating talking points. I have a degree in history and, of course, studied that period .Hitler was an opportunist. The German Social Democrat Party were the only socialists at the time."

Excuse my ignorance but wasn't Nazi an acronym for National Socialist? I never heard of the "Opportunist Party" but it looks like many of our politicians, banksters , and wall street clowns might belong to it.

Yes, you are correct. But it was only propoganda. Read the link I provoided and understand that people can speak one way and act another. It is like when health insurance companies say they care about you.

Many people blindly joined the Nazi Party simply because it has socialist in the name. Hitler also spoke to the working people because they were the ones suffering. The German people were taken advantage of because they wanted releif from the suffering of the depression.

I hope this time around we see the propagandists for who they are. I do no think we need to harass our leaders or re-elect new ones. I think we need to get rid of all of them.

P.S. You might think I am a liberal, because most people do. I am not a liberal, I advocate Anarchism.

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What people called themselves and what people are, in actuality, are two different things.  For example, the Communists were anything but.  The same is true with many other repressive political parties with egalitarian names.  But the Nazis were the National Socialist German Worker's party so the guy had a point.  And do you know any politician, especially a dictatorial one, who isn't an opportunist?  Also, socialism at that time was more about class equality rather than about racial and/or sexual equality.   

And the conservatives were anything but, on and on. Yes I know.

I find it sad that all the hard work done by women like Clara Zetkin is lost only because people assume they know the truth about something. The SDP was very interested in social equality. http://www.marxists.org/archive/kollonta/1920/womens-day.htm and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clara_Zetkin  will get you started.

It is time we ended saying things because we think they are true or because we heard someone say something on TV, and do our own unbiased research.

 

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 Strabes, I agree with C1oudfire about your posts, beautifully written and I usually agree with you. A friend emailed this letter, sounds like a person who has recently woke up from the Matrix, not all the pieces in place yet but getting there. I think the destruction of the US is vital to the globalists plans and we seem to be heading there at an ever increasing pace.

Dr. David Kaiser

History Unfolding

I am a student of history. Professionally, I have written 15 books on history that have been published in six languages, and I have studied history all my life. I have come to think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is simply a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus.

Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten to fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.

We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?

We learned just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has "loaned" two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the $700 billion we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of "we the people," who loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not.

We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy.. Why?

We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?

We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it simply wants marriage to remain defined as between one man and one woman. Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?) We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?

Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is Medicare and our entire government. Our education system is worse than a joke (I teach college and I know precisely what I am talking about) - the list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth.. It is potentially 1929 x ten...And we are at war with an enemy we cannot even name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who, in turn, cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.

And finally, we have elected a man that no one really knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla , Alaska .. All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh, of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe are more important.)

 (Greg asks, Why do we suddenly need this?)

Mr. Obama's winning platform can be boiled down to one word: Change. Why?

I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now.

This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.

And that is only the beginning..

As a serious student of history, I thought I would never come to experience what the ordinary, moral German must have felt in the mid-1930s In those times, the "savior" was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing. What they should have known was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory. Conservative "losers" read it right now.

And there were the promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and frowned and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his "brown shirts" would bully and beat them into submission. Which they did - regularly. And then, he was duly elected to office, while a full-throttled economic crisis bloomed at hand - the Great Depression. Slowly, but surely he seized the controls of government power, person by person, department by department, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The children of German citizens were at first, encouraged to join a Youth Movement in his name where they were taught exactly what to think. Later, they were required to do so. No Jews of course,

How did he get people on his side? He did it by promising jobs to the jobless, money to the money-less, and rewards for the military-industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe , and across the world. He did it with a compliant media - did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and ... . .. change. And the people surely got what they voted for.

If you think I am exaggerating, look it up. It's all there in the history books.

So read your history books. Many people of conscience objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and ridiculed. When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though. And the world came to regret that he was not listened to.

Do not forget that Germany was the most educated, the most cultured country in Europe. It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And yet, in less than six years (a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency) it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors.. All with the best of intentions, of course. The road to Hell is paved with them.

As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me..

I choose to believe the evidence. No doubt some people will scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. To some degree, perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe-and why I believe it.

I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am. Perhaps the only hope is our vote in the next elections.

David Kaiser
Jamestown , Rhode Island
United States

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gregroberts wrote:

 Strabes, I agree with C1oudfire about your posts, beautifully written and I usually agree with you. A friend emailed this letter, sounds like a person who has recently woke up from the Matrix, not all the pieces in place yet but getting there. I think the destruction of the US is vital to the globalists plans and we seem to be heading there at an ever increasing pace.

Dr. David Kaiser

History Unfolding

David Kaiser
Jamestown , Rhode Island
United States

Greg, please, snap out of it, think for yourself. I am saying this because I love you.

Kaiser did not write that. The attribution is a lie talks about on his blog:

http://historyunfolding.blogspot.com/2009/05/foreign-policy-wisdom.html

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/proportions.asp

Please please please do more research or ask someone if something is true.

If anything we are at a time BEFORE hitler came to power when the Communist Party was in control. I am afraid that all the racist and anti-immigrant talk will give rise to a new publication of Mein Kamph by either Beck or Dobbs or Hannity.

Again, I do not like Oboma or the Democrats or government. I advocate Anarchism.

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gregroberts wrote:

 Strabes, I agree with C1oudfire about your posts, beautifully written and I usually agree with you. A friend emailed this letter, sounds like a person who has recently woke up from the Matrix, not all the pieces in place yet but getting there. I think the destruction of the US is vital to the globalists plans and we seem to be heading there at an ever increasing pace.

Dr. David Kaiser

History Unfolding

I am a student of history. Professionally, I have written 15 books on history that have been published in six languages, and I have studied history all my life. I have come to think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is simply a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus.

Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten to fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.

We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?

We learned just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has "loaned" two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the $700 billion we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of "we the people," who loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not.

We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy.. Why?

We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?

We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it simply wants marriage to remain defined as between one man and one woman. Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?) We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?

Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is Medicare and our entire government. Our education system is worse than a joke (I teach college and I know precisely what I am talking about) - the list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth.. It is potentially 1929 x ten...And we are at war with an enemy we cannot even name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who, in turn, cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.

And finally, we have elected a man that no one really knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla , Alaska .. All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh, of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe are more important.)

 (Greg asks, Why do we suddenly need this?)

Mr. Obama's winning platform can be boiled down to one word: Change. Why?

I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now.

This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.

And that is only the beginning..

As a serious student of history, I thought I would never come to experience what the ordinary, moral German must have felt in the mid-1930s In those times, the "savior" was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing. What they should have known was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory. Conservative "losers" read it right now.

And there were the promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and frowned and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his "brown shirts" would bully and beat them into submission. Which they did - regularly. And then, he was duly elected to office, while a full-throttled economic crisis bloomed at hand - the Great Depression. Slowly, but surely he seized the controls of government power, person by person, department by department, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The children of German citizens were at first, encouraged to join a Youth Movement in his name where they were taught exactly what to think. Later, they were required to do so. No Jews of course,

How did he get people on his side? He did it by promising jobs to the jobless, money to the money-less, and rewards for the military-industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe , and across the world. He did it with a compliant media - did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and ... . .. change. And the people surely got what they voted for.

If you think I am exaggerating, look it up. It's all there in the history books.

So read your history books. Many people of conscience objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and ridiculed. When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though. And the world came to regret that he was not listened to.

Do not forget that Germany was the most educated, the most cultured country in Europe. It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And yet, in less than six years (a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency) it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors.. All with the best of intentions, of course. The road to Hell is paved with them.

As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me..

I choose to believe the evidence. No doubt some people will scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. To some degree, perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe-and why I believe it.

I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am. Perhaps the only hope is our vote in the next elections.

David Kaiser
Jamestown , Rhode Island
United States

Thanks, Greg;

That's a powerful letter . . . Thank you, so much, for posting it . . . I remember when I was in that man's place . . . I knew that something of monumental proportions was afoot, but couldn't yet name it .  . . I remember, before I stumbled across the CT literature, knowing and understanding pieces of the puzzle, and being very alarmed . . . But every time I'd talk about my concerns, I was met with apathy or downright anger at having the audacity to speak these things aloud . . .

There are some things that are different this time . . . How they'll play out is hard to say  . . . On the plus side, we have the internet, so that it's easier for us to find each other, and share knowledge and ideas . . . On the minus side, we have the internet, and it's easier for those who would enslave us to plant their insidious falsehoods and redirect our efforts into a euphemized version of tyranny . . . Times of fear and chaos are perfect for hijacking entire civilizations . . . This is why it is important that we give no quarter to fear . . . For if we fear, we can be enticed into Hell by offers of security . . . 

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overtheillusion,

"P.S. You might think I am a liberal, because most people do. I am not a liberal, I advocate Anarchism."

I recently read the novel "Earth Abides" by George Stewart where most of the human population are killed off by a virus, he never says but there might be 2000 people left alive on the planet after the pandemic. This may sound cruel but I could thrive in those circumstances, imagine no govt, very few people to annoy me (hopefully a few doctors or nurses survive that I could trade with), I could be totally free! I ask people what it means to live in a free society and they usually give me some Norman Rockwell version of freedom like "freedom from want", nope, true freedom means you are free from other people trying to force their version of the good on you. I'm not sure if most people could live without someone else telling them how to live their lives but I don't need that, I can take care of myself, so I embrace anarchy for myself as well.

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"Kaiser did not write that. The attribution is a lie talks about on his blog:"

Oops, I usually check email sources, but whether he wrote it or not I think there is truth there be it communism or fascism both being socialist in nature.

"If anything we are at a time BEFORE hitler came to power when the Communist Party was in control. I am afraid that all the racist and anti-immigrant talk will give rise to a new publication of Mein Kamph by either Beck or Dobbs or Hannity."

Well we do need a scapegoat don't we? I'm thinking it might end up being the people who believe in freedom (constitutionalists, libertarians, anarchists) being blamed for all the problems. The thing that bothers me most about Obama is his call for a civilian military force, who will they be used against?

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Re: Restore the Republic
gregroberts wrote:

overtheillusion,

"P.S. You might think I am a liberal, because most people do. I am not a liberal, I advocate Anarchism."

I recently read the novel "Earth Abides" by George Stewart where most of the human population are killed off by a virus, he never says but there might be 2000 people left alive on the planet after the pandemic. This may sound cruel but I could thrive in those circumstances, imagine no govt, very few people to annoy me (hopefully a few doctors or nurses survive that I could trade with), I could be totally free! I ask people what it means to live in a free society and they usually give me some Norman Rockwell version of freedom like "freedom from want", nope, true freedom means you are free from other people trying to force their version of the good on you. I'm not sure if most people could live without someone else telling them how to live their lives but I don't need that, I can take care of myself, so I embrace anarchy for myself as well.

Like you had no idea about German history you have no idea what Anarchism entail. If you did you would realize you just said you like socialism. I am not speaking of the common idea of anarchy, ie. chaos, but the political definition of Anarchy, ie, libertarian socialism.

Anarchism is about communla living, realizing that the happiest way to live is to share the limited resources of the earth with each other. To keep what what you work for and lay claim to only the things that you use.

And what you fail to realize is that you can live free right now.

http://www.infoshop.org/faq/index.html

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