HR Bill 645

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HR Bill 645

 Just in case the economy plan doesn't work out the way they think. Camps for all those who wish to voice a dissenting word.  

 

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Re: HR Bill 645

or we can always start a war!?!

H. CON. RES. 362
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.CON.RES.362:

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Re: HR Bill 645

If investorzzo's link failed for you as it did me, here's what the gov'ment has to say for itself. Maybe they're trying to find housing for all the people who're foreclosed... on military bases... surrounded by barbed wire... double plus nice!!!

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645

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Re: HR Bill 645
investorzzo wrote:

Just in case the economy plan doesn't work out the way they think. Camps for all those who wish to voice a dissenting word.  

 

http://m.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2055473552

I can't get the link to open. Please supply a better link.

[edit] active link supplied by jhelge (thanks)

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Re: HR Bill 645

Strange, I tried the link a couple of times and no problems?

 

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investorzzo wrote:

Strange, I tried the link a couple of times and no problems?

 

http://m.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2055473552

Works now for me too. Weird.

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Here:

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills...

It looks like standard pork give-away, creating a reason to keep 6 closed bases open.  If it ever makes it out of committee, then we can be interested.  If it were something ominous, or something which somebody powerful was pulling for, it would be buried deep inside a large appropriations bill.

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Re: HR Bill 645

Hello everybody,

jrk29, I understand what you are saying but sometimes you can sneak something by in simple manor with the cloak of "helping the people" or "being ready for the next disaster" (like Katrina) easier than hiding it.

3 points scare the heck out of me in this bill:

number #1

"SEC.2.(b)(4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security." 

This is referring too the purpose of the bill and this leaves the field wide open.

number #2

"SEC.3.(e)Transfer of Control of Closed Military Installations- If a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Defense shall transfer to the Secretary of Homeland Security administrative jurisdiction over such closed military installation." 

Remember these are the guys with all the power from the patriot act we are now giving them self-sufficient facilities to enact any action they wish with little to no checks and balances.

number #3

"SEC.3.(g)(4) ADDITIONAL REPORTS- The Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, may submit to Congress additional reports as necessary to provide updates on steps being taken to meet the requirements of this Act." 

This is referring to any reports after the 1 year (or what they call the final report) of this bill being enacted.  After one year there are no more required congressional reports on these facilities. 

Lets sum this up, we are going to revamp old military facilities to be self-sufficient.  Give them to a group with almost unlimited power ((patriot act)) and after 1 year not make them submit reports to our elected officials and above all this give them even more power "to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by (one person) the Secretary of Homeland Security."

One more point, the bill specifically states minimum 6 bases.  The act does not put a maximum cap.

Is this really a good idea???

We already give power to one person for our monetary system, now we are ready to give another person locations bases to act as this person deems appropriate.

Time to e-mail my congressperson, I would urge you to do the same.

 

 

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This bill absolutely stinks.

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After finding out about these "residential" concentration camps, all 800+ that exist around the US, it is disturbing that we would have to pay taxes to the private employers who run these camps.  These camps can be enacted at any time if Marshall Law is declared.  It is time we exposed these camps and DOD and FEMA who are behind these conspiracies for what they really are.  Ironically, I work for someone who is employed at Homeland Security and from day one I knew there was something about the secrecy of the agency and others like it that was not correct.  Now I know--work in secret and keep the same secrets to yourself only to forfeit your family and loved ones to marshall law.  We need to take this to the press, TV,, radio, etc.

 

PH

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