Fleecing of the World

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bluster2000's picture
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Fleecing of the World

By the looks of it there is an unprecedented transfer of wealth taking place.


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Re: Fleecing of the World

Slick...don't you think?  Neither Asia nor the Middle East can live without the West, neither can they find a substitute reserve currency.  Can you say, "C-O-D-E-P-E-N-D-E-N-T."

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Re: Fleecing of the World

Is this really happening?



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Castiewp,  It is really happening.  Mostly it already has happened.  Bob Champan is one of the few who have gone down the the root causes - the Illuminati, and their spawn of international corporations and central banking systems. The best sources of information and education can be found at




I've spent years trying to trace our national and world financial problems to first causes, and these are the best sources, as they will lead one to all the other good sources.

I wish it weren't so.  But only a huge awakening in counciousness of the citizens can put a stop to it.  Spread the world.


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Wow, great links FedNix!  Ellen Brown, at the www.webofdebt.com  site you pointed to has a great Q&A section with several interesting posts.  I look forward to reading her book, "Web of Debt".  Thanks for the pointers!

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Here's the link to the Q&A section I mentioned above: http://webofdebt.wordpress.com/questions-and-answers/   .  I went back and found that it took some hunting around to find it, so wanted to add a direct link here.

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Pinecarr,  Nice to see someone appreciate real information.  Believe me when I say Ellen's Brown's book Web of Debt is the best book on money and the Federal Reserve System I've found to date.  Her website is a treasure trove of great money articles and insights, as well as some good dialogue and commentary. 

The only hope of saving our civilization is an unformed citizenship.  Yet real information is rare.  Disinformation is abundant.

Other good info sources:

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choice of where we spend each US budget dollar is between "guns and butter", as
stated by a true conservative, Pres. DW Eisenhower, in 1961.  He also warned the
US citizens about the present and ever-growing dangers that our nation was being
taken over by a "Military- Industrial Complex".  He may or may not have been
aware how the private central banking control over our money funnels taxpayer
funds into non-productive spending, and bombs and bullets fit that category
better than anything else I can think of.  They are built to be destroyed in war
and battles or become quickly obsolete in the arms races the financial banking
interests sponsor.

This is not a left - right or Democrat -
Republican issue
, as some on this forum strive so hard to portray it. 
This is an issue of the survival of our culture and even our
  Our current economic system is in collapse, and that
collapse will escalate despite the Fed and central bankers frantic behind-the-
scenes financial chicanery to make sporatic "recoveries" seem to occur.  The
private central bankers control the printing presses that crank out our dollars,
at taxpayer expense, and can use them in very creative ways in the global NWO
economy to "prop up the dollar" and depress the prices of gold, silver, and
other precious metals and commodities.  They use taxpayer money (debt) to
massively manipulate the stock markets through "naked short sales", buy-backs,
and other manipulation schemes far too complex to go into here.  The the books I
recommed, or at least watch the online videos on Youtube, Google, Yahoo and
personal websites to see for yourselves how real this all is.

I am an investor, retired for the past 10 years and have followed the global
markets since I was a kid.  I have a positive net worth, and I listen to or
watch a huge variety of news and information sources.  I subscribe to at least
40 or 50 information services via the internet and email.  All of the
information I relay here is factual and reliable.  The fact that our economy is
collapsing like a house of cards is being broadcast by numerous authorites,
economists, insiders and whilstleblowers, and the case they make is ironclad, if
one takes the time to follow it.  For instance, David Walker, Comptroller
General of the Government Accountability Office, is touring the nation warning
citizens of the impending bankruptcy.  Please watch just one or two minutes off
this 7 minute video and you will begin to understand the economic truth. 

Then watch lessons 6, 7
and 8 (each about 6 to 8 minutes) of this outstanding presentation by one of the
brightest teachers I've ever heard on the subject. Chris
Martenson:  http://www.peakprosperity.com/crashcourse     The series of video lessons is not yet finished,
but if you watch 6,7 and 8 on money, you will want to watch the entire series
over time, and explore the gold mine of references on the coming financial
tsunami.  You need to prepare for the events ahead.  Your faith will be

further education and information on what you are not being told by mainstream
media or official sources, I ask you to read these books or watch the online
videos.  The first two videos are
very educational, and highly recommended. 

This website has a cornucopia of
great articles and presentations on the widest range of monetary and finance
topics.  Highly recommended:


These are the best books and

Simplest Video = Money as
Debt (47 min) :  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279

Comprehensive Video =
MoneyMasters (3.5 hrs):  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936

My main suggestion would be
to obtain the book, Web of Debt, by Ellen Brown.  She has done more to
"demystify" the subject of money more than anyone else I have read.  Stephen
Zarlenga's The Lost Science of Money had been my favorite until I recently
finished Web of Debt.  Both books have excellent road maps to get out of the
disaster we have scripted for our nation, and the world.  The important thing is to begin the needed discussions
and debates.

Best Book (By Far)
= Web of Debthttp://webofdebt.wordpress.com/feedback/  (Publisher's website reviews and comments)

Amazon Reviews of Web of Debt: 


Author Ellen H. Brown's website
packed with good info:  http://www.webofdebt.com 

Another Best Book = The
Lost Science of Money - The Mythology of Money
- The Story of Power:


Author Stephen Zarlenga's website
on Monetary Reform:  http://www.monetary,org  [Prime!]

Best History, Modern Establishment Insider  -
Comprehensive:  Carrol
Quigley - Tragedy and Hope:http://www.amazon.com/review/product/094500110X/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?%5Fencoding=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

An excellent capsule summary of
many very important books that bear on the coming economic collapse:  "How the
World Really Works"  http://www.amazon.com/review/product/0964084813/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?%5Fencoding=UTF8&showViewpoints=1  This book is especially important for its capsule
summaries of the highlights of a handful of the most important books written in
the last 50 years:  A Century of War, Tragedy and Hope, The Naked
Capitalist, The Tax-Exempt Foundations, The Creature from Jekyll Island, The
Politics of Heroin, Dope Inc.,
and others.  One caveat:  I do not agree
with the author's solutions.  The book is valuable mainly for highlighting the

These are factual resources of the highest
integrity and scholarship that detail our economic and societal problems.  However the solutions will require a complete paradigm shift, just as Chris Martenson has tried to tell us in his Chapter 20.





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Re: Fleecing of the World

Whew!  I just wish I had more time to read!

BTW, I just ordered "Web of Deceipt' -ooops! Freudian slip!- I mean "Web of Debt",  on Amazon.com ....Through Chris's link to Amazon, of course! 

Thanks FedNix.

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You're welcome.   Yes the references there could keep one occupied for hundreds of hours, without even following the bibliographies given in each piece.  Web of Debt is best in the book category because its written in plain everyday English rahter than the econobabble that is used today to confuse and confound.

The videos, Money as Debt, The Money Masters and America, Freedom to Fascism are great for those who just finding out about the Fed, Central Banking and the coming fascist NWO.

Enjoy the book,



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The San Francisco Chronicle's site has a handy-dandy chart so
you can see how the government and non-governmental Fed
have burned through $8.5-trillion dollars - so far
. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2008/11/26/MNVN14C8Q...

This tallies the amount of give-aways so far.  It is utterly amazing that investors will buy the US debt to finance this transfer of wealth to the banksters.


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