The End of America (Porter Stansberry Research)

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The End of America (Porter Stansberry Research)

A friend sent me this youtube link... 
Seems like most readers here KNOW this information...
I did not find this link on CM so I post it here as
another well reasoned and researched resource...
saying similar things. 

-Bob O

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Re: The End of America (Porter Stansberry Research)

Perhaps this is a whoops... to have posted... He paints a dire picture
of the future and at the end of the 1:15 video is promoting his $49.00 newsletter.
Moderators feel free to delete if this is too "promotional"...

OTOH, it's a reminder to be prepared for change...
and CM is a great resource for that. 

-Bob O 

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Re: The End of America (Porter Stansberry Research)

 I have heard of this video from a number of friends who are not into the 3 E's. They heard about it on the radio and I recently heard a spot at 4am on AM talk radio encouraging listeners to watch the video. I think his information is very similar to Chris but he has a different approach. The more people that wake up the better. Sammy

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Re: The End of America (Porter Stansberry Research)

The company applies pretty obvious shady marketing strategies.

scaremonger people to buy their products. I wouldnt be surprised that  all those recommendations only reveal common sense!

Maybe someone ca teach me abetter who bought one of their research products!

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Re: The End of America (Porter Stansberry Research)

Hi  Mainebob--I admit I didn't watch the video. I'm assuming it contains information I'm already aware of.  I just want to comment on the title, "The End of America".  Regardless of what is being sold through the video, I have no doubt the promoter sincerely believes the future will be horrible. The "end" just presages a new beginning, though, and one that might be necessary and much better for all involved. The emphasis on doom, though understandable, is so deflating.  This reads like I have an old "up, up with people" album playing on an ancient stereo, in the background, but I think putting a positive spin on massive change is probably much needed. Don't you?

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Re: The End of America (Answer to 4 Steps please)

The link to this video that I posted here 2 weeks ago
came up in two posts in today's CM daily blog.

I posted a comment there:
http://www.peakprosperity.com/comment/102718#comment-102718

and in part asked:

...I'm not willing to pay for this "scare monger" product and wonder if
someone who did buy and become a member ("no debit cards" for purchase)
could summarize the answers to the four steps/strategies mentioned in the video:

STEP #1. GET SOME OF YOUR MONEY BEYOND THE REACH
OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT (it's perfectly legal,
and a lot easier than you think)

STEP #2: HOW TO ACQUIRE THE WORLD'S SAFEST ASSETS,
WHICH ARE LIKELY TO PERFORM BEST DURING THIS PERIOD.

STEP #3: LEARN THE 100% SECRET

STEP #4: MAKE SURE YOU OWN THE ONE ASSET THAT CAN
HELP SAVE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, NO MATTER HOW BAD THINGS GET

===
I really appreciate CM's approach over this type
of fear mongering.

I am reposting here as it may be more likely to be answered.

I agree with Agitating Prop... Yes,  How can we more forward in a way that is:
"...Environmentally Sustainable, Socially Just and Spiritually Fulfilling..."

and sosMsos.... you prompted me to post the questions and ask for answers.

Thanks

-Bob

 

 

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The End of America (Evohep answers Questions)

Evohep answered the four questions here:

http://www.peakprosperity.com/comment/102736#comment-102736

Thank you!

-Bob

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Re: The End of America (Porter Stansberry Research)

I have to admit, I wanted to watch that.....but when I see the name David Icke on any kind of presentation I immediately stop reading/listening.

My bias. I think the guy is off his wagon. *shrugs* I just can't take him seriously.

Same thing when people start saying things like "reptilian agenda." My mind turns off and I wander away to find information that does not include hollywood-esque exotic alien creatures. Again, my personal bias.

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End of America 2011

1. FRANK PORTER STANSBERRY was successfully sued by FTC. He had to pay a 1.5 million dollar fine for making misrepresentations and defrauding investors.
See:

http://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/comp18090.htm

2. Stansberry claims a weak dollar is a bad thing that will destroy the US. If that was true why would China and every other country fight to keep their currencies artificially low? A weak dollar would attract tourists from S. America, Europe and Asia, which would bring an influx of foreign capital. It would make US products more attractive. It would lead to Americans throwing away less food, and throwing away less money on goods they really don’t need. A weak dollar would revitalize American industry, and improve our trade imbalance. A weak dollar would be good for the American worker. A weak dollar would attract foreign investment in American companies and real estate.

3. In a kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. The US may be having econonmic problems, but most other countries are in much worst shape.

4. Printing money and monetizing a debt can lead to inflation, if not hyper-inflation. That part is true. But in a recession or a depression “cash is king,” money goes up in value, commodities and real estate go down in a value. You can print money and monetize a debt during a recession, because recessions are deflationary. Ben Bernacke is a pretty smart guy. He did his PhD on the 1929 depression. The job of the Fed is partly to prevent inflation, and to avoid deflation. In bad economic times, no one has money, and credit is hard to get. There is a liquidity crisis.

QE-1 and QE-2 were just what the doctored ordered, because recession-deflation are more a threat now than an overheated economy and inflation. Homes and real estate losing value, and a falling stock market are recessionary-deflationary. Helipcopter Ben has come to our rescue pulling us out of a downward spiraling vortex with his helicopter, with his printing money and easing credit in a time where money is a scarce commodity.

5. Who are the big losers if the US monetizes its debt? China, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Japan. They are the biggest holders of US debt. Will you shed a tear?

6. When you owe a creditor a lot of money, your creditors have a stake in your success. If the US dollar sinks who loses more than the US? I am thinking of a five-letter word that starts with a captical “C.”

7. The FED has powerful weapons in its aresonal to curtail inflation. Ben correctly believes the greater danger now is recession-deflation, not inflation. Should inflation really become an issue, he can stop it in a millisecond. Ben follows US inflation closer than any other American. Ben is a sharp guy.

8. If the US Stock market collapses, that is recessionary-deflationary. The more the US stock market goes down, the more Ben can pump money into the economy without creating inflation.

9. Ben looks at every part of the US economy for signs of inflation to keep it in check if necessary.

10. Congress can do many things to raise revenue. The US has one of the lowest tax rates of any country in the world, not one of the highest. My father was in the 90% tax bracket. That did not disincentivize him. He continued to work hard to make money. So did every other entrepreneur. We can lower our military spending. We can close many loopholes, and stop giving so many tax credits. One of the biggest loop-holes is allowing wealthy individuals to use charitable foundations as tax shelters. Charitable foundations do not have to spend much money on charitable causes. Charitable foundations can invest their capital. They can pay huge salaries to their founders, and to friends and family members of their founders. That is why Howard Hughes and Bill Gates created their charitable foundations. They did so to avoid paying taxes, not because they are such caring individuals.

11. Social Security can easily be fixed by raising the age of retirement, and means-testing those who get benefits. It should be insurance to care for people who are too old to work, who do not have savings to care for themselves to live a decent life. Social Security should be a safety net, it should pay benefits on a sliding scale, giving more to those who need it most. Today, Social Security pays wealthy people money who do not need benefits. Means-testing would save the system a lot of money.

12. Yes, a small percent of the population pay a large percent of taxes. That is because a small percent of the US population earns and controls most US wealth. Wealthy Americans have the most disposable income. They can most afford to pay more taxes. They can pay more taxes without lowering their standard of living. It makes sense to tax people with money more, and people who can't afford shelter and food less.

13. The rich do not create wealth. This is a fallacy. Creative people, innovators, entreprenerus and inventors create wealth. Most creative people, innovators, entrepreneurs and inventors are not wealthy. They start their businesses with borrowed money. Amazon.com, Google, Microsoft, Apple all started with borrowed money.

12. Money flows up, trickles down. When the poor and middle class have money they spend it on consumer goods and services that create jobs and wealth for everyone. When wealthy people get more money, they save it, not spend it. They buy frivilous, luxury items like dresses that cost tens of thousands of dollars, diamonds, $20,000 watches, mansions, yachts, jets, homes, and high priced cooks that relatively speaking employ much fewer people. It is the spending of the lower and middle classes that drive the economy of any nation, not the spending of the upper class. Which helps a nation’s economy more. One rich guy doing a huge remodeling job on his home, or 10,000 middle-class home owners remodeling their homes?

13. Ronald Reagan tripled the national debt, and nearly drove the US into bankruptcy. Ronald Reagan was the greatest deficit spending president of all time. Little wonder the US economy grew in his time. All knowleable parties agree, Ronald Reagan had no effect on the fall of the Soviet Union.

14. Al Gore never said he invented the internet. Al Gore did create the internet we use today, by sponsoring legislation that allowed the public to use it. Prior to Al Gore, the internet was just a tool of the US military and US universities. But the liberal, left-wing biased media kept the truth a secret from the US public, because they wanted to Al Gore to lose.

14. There is no real argument amoung climatologists that global warming is taking place. Out of 20,000+ climatologists, less than 10 claim global warming is not taking place. Less than 50 claim man is not the cause. The evidence for global warming is overwhelming. The evidence man is causing global warming is overwhelming. Man is having a profound effect on his enviroment. There are much fewer fish in the ocean. Fish are becoming smaller, because small fish are able to swim through the nets of trawlers who fish with nets that are miles long. Man has fished many species of ocean fish to verge of extinction. Mankind did create an observable hole in the ozone. Most people who don’t believe in global warming, do not understand the principle of a green house. They don’t understand how green houses trap heat. Glass allows sunlight to pass through it, but blocks infrared heat energy from escaping. Certain gases like CO2 have the same effect as glass. CO2 allows sunlight to pass through, but blocks infrared energy. Venus is an example of a planet suffering from the “green house” effect. It would be hotter than earth even if its orbit was further from the sun because its atomosphere traps the suns energy. Forests remove CO2 from the air. By deforesting the Earth to make room for civilization, and by burning fossil fuels we create CO2. Before the colonists came the US, the US was almost completely forrested. We destroyed over 80% of forests on American soil.

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