China to buy 4,000 tons of gold?

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China to buy 4,000 tons of gold?

Here's an interesting news item that I learned of from Jason Hommel's Silver Stock Report:

China PBOC Mulls Raising Gold Reserve By 4,000 Tons - Report

Wed, Nov 19 2008, 01:51 GMT

China PBOC Mulls Raising Gold Reserve By 4,000 Tons - Report

BEIJING (Dow Jones)--China's central bank is considering raising its
gold reserve by 4,000 metric tons from 600 tons to diversify risks
brought by the country's huge foreign exchange reserves, the Guangzhou
Daily reported, citing unnamed industry people in Hong Kong.

The Guangzhou-based newspaper didn't elaborate on the plan.

China's forex reserves, at US$1.9056 trillion at the end of September,
is the world's largest. U.S. dollar-denominated assets, including U.S.
treasury bonds and mortgage agency bonds, account for a big proportion
of the forex reserves.

Newspaper Web site: -By China Bureau, Dow Jones Newswires; (8610) 6588 5848; [email protected]

And here is Jason's analysis of what this could mean for gold and silver investors:

Is China Ready to Buy Gold at Last?

(Do the math on this one!)

Silver Stock Report

by Jason Hommel, November 19, 2008

There has been a recent
flurry of news articles saying China may
begin to diversify into Gold.  But the articles conclude that China will move slowly,
over years, so as to not disturb the markets.  Funny. 

It's funny because it's like they don't know basic math.

China wants 4000 tonnes of gold, to help "diversify" their $1.9
trillion in U.S. bonds.  It's quite a joke.  Please bear with me
as I explain.

A tonne of gold is 32,151 ounces.  Please search "troy ounces per
tonne" at google to confirm, because this one bit of information, and a
simple calculator, can help you unlock and decipher the meaning of what
you read in the news regarding the gold market, as gold at the national
level is usually always quoted in terms of tonnes.

The total ounces China is seeking, is thus: 4000 tonnes x 32,151
ounces/tonne = 128,604,000, or 128.6 million ounces. 

That's an interesting number because it is about half of the U.S.
official gold reserves of  261 million ounces.

It's also an interesting number because the total annual gold market
consumption is said to be about 4000 tonnes, while annual mine production
is only about 2500 tonnes.

But let's now multiply by the current gold price, to see how much of
China's reserves could be diversified if they obtained that, without
disturbing the price.

At $736/oz., times 128.6 million ounces = $94649.6 million, or $94.6

That's funny, because $94.6 billion is not very much of $1.9 trillion,
which is $1900 billion. 

What's the percentage?  Simple:  $94.6 / $1900 x 100 =

See, if China diversified 5% of their reserves, they would dominate the
world gold market, buying an equal amount bought by the rest of the world
in a year, and that could crash the dollar by 50%, while gold prices could

And actually, such a diversification of $94 billion would be no
diversification at all, since China has added $600 billion to their dollar
holdings within the last 6-7 months, up from $1.3 trillion.

To truly diversify, they would need to sell more dollars than they are
accumulating, so they really need to buy about $600 billion worth of gold,
or more, in a year.

How much would a true diversification be at current prices?  $600
billion / $94 billion = 6.38 times as much gold as the world buys in a

Please think on that, and buy silver, instead.  Because as we have
seen, as gold moves, silver moves higher faster, and runs out sooner,
because it is more scarce.

Here is a quote that has been posted for over a year at my main page at

"Even though the U.S. dollar is no longer backed by gold, any holder of
dollars could wise up at any time and start buying silver or gold. China,
for example, could spend their $1.3 (now $1.9) trillion U.S. dollars in
bonds and buy gold anywhere in the world, such as Switzerland, Dubai,
Tokyo.  China could even send agents to buy gold at any of the 4,000
or more coin shops in the U.S. The dollar could drop 50% or more
overnight, and there's not a single thing the U.S. government, you or I
could do about it."

Please note the following news items:

China Should Buy Gold for Reserves, Association Says (Update2)
14 (Bloomberg)

China PBOC Mulls Raising Gold Reserve By 4,000 Tons - Report
Nov 19 2008

"China's central bank is considering raising its gold reserve by 4,000
metric tons from 600 tons to diversify risks brought by the country's huge
foreign exchange reserves, the Guangzhou Daily reported"

Two other quick news items:
Iran switches reserves to gold -
TEHRAN, Nov 15

Saudi Arabia buys $3.5bn of gold in two weeks
13 November 2008

Finally, a news item regarding China's silver.

Silver hit by rising cost of production
10 Nov 2008

Key excerpt:
"The country will increasingly rely on imports to fill
the needs for silver, he said. Last year, the country's net imports were
1,067 tons, compared with net exports of 1,085 tons in 2006, according to
customs data provided by Zhou."

Finally, it is keenly important to put the relation of gold and silver
in perspective.

The world's consumption of gold, 4000 tonnes is $94 billion.

The world annual investor demand for silver is about 100 million
ounces, or $1 billion.

Do you see why silver is the far superior investment to gold? 
Silver will move higher much more easily, and you will make far more money
in silver. 

The bulk and weight of silver now, are the reasons why some avoid it,
and are the exact reasons why it will perform better than gold. 
Fewer people take the "pain" to own it, thus, it is the more contrary
investment, and will perform better.

Reminder:  10,000 ounces of silver are available at auction this
Wednesday night, at

See also, smaller amounts of silver for sale daily at my Mom's silver
shop at
and even smaller amounts of silver for sale daily at

Oh yes.  My mom also told me this week that she usually gets about
$1 more per ounce at ebay than at  But that does not
necessarily mean that is cheaper, because it's not a
perfectly fair comparison, since her auctions at are
usually over 100 oz., while at ebay, they are usually less. 

This same principle, China reporters seem to fail to understand. 
When China moves, they will get less gold for the money, because when they
move in size, they will move the market.  Communists really don't
understand free market principles, as a matter of general principle. 
But then again, neither do 99.9% of Americans, who prefer paper money,
instead of real silver, and gold.


Jason Hommel


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Re: China to buy 4,000 tons of gold?

Sounds like China, Saudi Arabia & Iran are preparing for a currency collapse.  Yesterday's Bernanke testimony he told Ron Paul the US treasury only talks about its gold in regard to its sales.  That's right.  He said the US is selling off its gold while the other countries can't buy it fast enough.  Either it's a big lie or he truely sees no need for gold in the US reserves.  I think this is a good sign to run for the exits... dump your US dollars and buy assets ASAP!


Any news on Russia buying gold?  Maybe we can sell them ours.  Apparently the US doesn't need gold.  We got a printing press.

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