Charles Hugh Smith Blogs On Chris Martenson

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Charles Hugh Smith Blogs On Chris Martenson

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My Meeting with Other Econobloggers

A recent dinner with other Bay Area econobloggers yielded numerous insights.

Longtime reader/correspondent Adam Taggart was kind enough to invite me to a presentation given by Chris Martenson at Yahoo! headquarters in Sunnyvale, CA.Adam (Vice President of Marketing at Yahoo!) also invited Axel Merk, writer, author and founder of the Merk Hard Currency Funds, and Patrick Killelea, founder and proprietor of the top housing bust/crash site,

The guests shared two traits: we live in the San Francisco Bay Area, and we each have found an audience on the dynamic meritocracy known as the World Wide Web.

As we all know, you can put up anything you want on the Web, and read what you want on the Web, effectively dispensing with the services of Old Media "gatekeepers" such as editors and publishers.

The trick in such a free-form meritocracy is attracting and engaging a large audience.

By that simple metric, I was among the giants of the econoblogosphere, as Chris, Axel and Patrick are among the most well-known bloggers/writers around.

It's true: you learn so much more if your colleagues are smarter than you are, and so the dinner gathering of Chris, Axel, Patrick, Adam and myself was extremely valuable to me professionally and as a citizen.

I first heard about Chris in 2008 when dozens of readers began recommending The Crash Course ( Chris as the best summary of our collective plight.

There are many fine public speakers, but Chris is one of the best I've seen--concise, fast-paced, well-organized and yet informal. The large room was SRO (standing room only), and after his lecture Chris fielded numerous questions from the engineer-heavy audience, many of whom questioned the inescapable conclusion that exponential growth of consumption and debt in a world of diminishing real commodities dooms the status quo.

As Chris put it, "The next 20 years will not be like the past 20 years."

I have read Axel's articles on gold and currencies for years on sites such as Safe Haven and Kitco, and Patrick greatly boosted the audience of in 2005 and 2006 by posting some of my housing-related articles on

After the lecture, we met up at a restaurant in Palo Alto, where Adam graciously treated us to a fine dinner (Patrick picked the wine, an excellent--and "cheap"--choice.)

To say the conversation was wide-ranging would be an understatement--we practically closed the place, even though several guests needed to arise at 5:30 a.m. the next morning.

Part of what made the evening sparkle with insights (at least to me) is that each of us comes from a different perspective. Chris is a PhD scientist/researcher by profession, Axel an economist/fund manager, Patrick a software/Web engineer turned econoblog entrepreneur, Adam (his Yahoo! position was unknown to me, as his email had a Stanford alumni address) an executive with a Silicon Valley icon, and myself a philosophy major/carpenter/free-lance journalist/author. (How I gained an audience remains a mystery.)

While Chris and Axel often speak/present at conferences and other events, and Patrick was invited to speak at Google earlier this year, I am the classic isolated writer tapping away amidst a horrific clutter of paper, magazines, books and notes. I write what I think is important and interesting, and who knows what happens to it afterward.

Dinner topics included gold (all paper currencies are doomed, so it's just a race to zero from here), the possibility of a gold-backed currency (unlikely in Axel's view), best locales for "bug-out" cabins (make sure you get water rights, Chris advised), and perhaps most broadly, the possibilities for sparking real change from the relatively modest position of econobloggers.


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Re: Charles Hugh Smith Blogs On Chris Martenson

Good article!   I would've liked him to have gone into not only what they discussed, but what each of the persons stances were and the ultimate "answers" that they gave.  Not that there is a correct answer for much of it, but there could be a consensus that he didn't mention.

Thanks for sharing!

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Re: Charles Hugh Smith Blogs On Chris Martenson

Thanks Morpheus!  That's the first I'd read about this. Great article!

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Re: Charles Hugh Smith Blogs On Chris Martenson

I'd have washed dishes in the restaurant's kitchen for hours just to have been able to listen in on that dinner conversation...

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