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The Captain Sheeple News Thread

Greetings All,

I just wanted to share the Captain Sheeple News Youtube Channel with the community. 

 

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Captain Sheeple Market Analysis

This is Captain Sheeple's first true video broadcast. In it, he uncovers a conspiracy to manipulate the Wool Markets, and gives timely investment advice. 

With market analysis like this, who needs Chris Martenson?

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Re: The Captain Sheeple News Thread

So I see mockery.

Where's the substance?

Or is the purpose of this thread to just inflame people who have reasonable suspicions, prima facie evidence that something stinks?

Is the purpose just to marginalize those folks?

Personally I think these tactics stink. This coming from someone that has read a LOT OF INFORMATION, and DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH into commodity markets.

I am not only an engineer, but an analyst. And markets are a system and therefore can be.. analyzed. There is strong evidence pointing to market manipulation.

Now you're calling me an idiot? Why not refute my points?

 

 

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Re: The Captain Sheeple News Thread

Morpheus,

Your kidding, right?

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Gandhi-Morpheus-Ben-Pete -

Stop taking yourself so seriously and lighten up.  It's all in good fun.  That's all.  Nothing more, nothing less. 

But really, really funny.

If you can't stop and laugh every now and then, this stuff will consume you.  It may do that anyway, but I choose to go out laughing.

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No, I'm not kidding. I think that in time, I can make a solid case for market manipulation. Just not going to conjure up a 2000 page essay on what I know all at once. This type of stuff I have seen before. Thought stoppers. Just merely mock what you disagree with and assign the word "conspiracy" to it. I thought we had this discussion and saw eye to eye on it. Apparently not.

I don't find market manipulation the least bit humourous. Now you may not agree that it happens, and that is certainly your perogative, but these types of tactics do nothing to expand up the possibility, and invesigate whether it has merit or is baseless. What it does is create camps.

I'm sick of seeing folks that mock conspiracies which do happen. Especially in light of the fact that almost all of Chris' material has never seen the light of day in the establishment media. Which is a conspiracy of silence.

Sorry. I get the same derision from "mainstream folks" in their forums when I bring up Chris' crash course concepts. And now I see it here.

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Morpheus,

Unbelievable.

I see that you flagged my post. I apologized to you in a PM, though I now see that was a waste of time. 

This video is in no way directed towards you personally, its a gag on the Sheeple Herd Indicator, which if you follow any of my posts, is analogous to the dumb money market indicators that I often make reference to.  The only conspiracy inherent in that video, is the conspiracy of the smart money to take the dumb money's capital. You are obviously projecting your own anxieties onto this simple gag video. 

Why are we even having this conversation? Did you even watch the video before you commented on it?

To the forum,

Are there any others here that were offended by this video? Please let me know, by post or PM,  because I will gladly remove it in the interest of community harmony.

 

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Re: The Captain Sheeple News Thread

Loved it. Keep 'em coming.

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Re: The Captain Sheeple News Thread

Jeff,

I mooo'ed and mooe'd through the whole thing.  I've always known those sheep are morally and in every other way inferior to me and my cow brethren. 

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I would not say that I was offended but I don't think that it served much of a positive purpose to the community. I only watched part of it and got bored and I turned it off.

I am in the group that believes that there is substantial market manipulation but I will save my arguments for another thread.

 

Ken

 

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I am in the group that believes that there is substantial market manipulation.........

So am I.

And I still thought the clips were funny.

Isn't being able to laugh at something a positive?

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Dogs_In_A_Pile wrote:

Isn't being able to laugh at something a positive?

Yes. There is way too much tension here already. We need to lighten up.

These are my first 2 posts in over a month simply because things are too emotionally charged here for me. I support what Jeff is doing in trying to lighten the mood, and hope people will see it for what it really is... a joke.

Peace,

R

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Dogs wrote:

 

So am I.

And I still thought the clips were funny.

Isn't being able to laugh at something a positive?

My feelings exactly. 

Morpheus,

The title of the thread should have provided enough indication that it was meant in jest and not to be taken seriously.  By taking it seriously, you are acomplishing the improbable - giving credence to the message. 

I appreciate your many posts and insights and am glad you are in this community.  I humbly suggest you lighten up or else all this stuff will devour you. 

I am now taking leave of this thread.  It was fun, but the controversy is not worth it.  Peace out.

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Captain Sheeple....

Sign me up for a subscription!

Lamb233


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OK Quincy & Cosmo say sign them up as well ! Laughing

 

 

 

I Think we need a show us your pest pet photo Thread !

 

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I thought the video was funny and made a point at the same time. 

Morpheus, I always appreciate your posts and insights but I think you're mistaken here.  If anything, like Jeff said, this post illustrates how the dumb money (i.e. the sheeple) have literally had their wool taken to the cleaners by market manipulation.  It's not making fun of the concept of market manipulation.  If anything, it does the opposite.  Anyone who has done a modicum of study and reading in the area realizes there's been a massive amount of market manipulation and this video just points out its influence on the sheeple in a humorous manner.

 

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kenc wrote:

I would not say that I was offended but I don't think that it served much of a positive purpose to the community. I only watched part of it and got bored and I turned it off.

I originally passed on posting my reaction to the Captain Sheeple video, but thought it was not worth bothering with.  But now that I see how divisive its effects have been, I'm going to weigh in and say that my response was much the same as Ken's, and that it does strike me as something short of a true rebuttal of views with which the Captain does not agree.

I genuinely like Jeff, and am very grateful to him for some of the very specific assistance he has lent me, so it is with more than a little hesitation that I post my opinion on this.  I suspect that he is using humor to help him cope with his frustration over recent economic and political events . . . and that's something with which I can relate, as I generally think that humor is a harmless coping mechanism.  But, sometimes, jokes have unintended consequences (Indeed, I know this from personal experience*) . . . and it's gracious to stand down. 

I, for one, initially thought that the "Captain Sheeple" moniker** was rather witty . . . but the subsequent videos were, like Jon Stewart routines, not my cup o' tea . . . but carrying the joke on, past the point where it is clear that at least some members are offended . . . Well, you've lost me, there . . . 

Humor, at its best, can help us to digest otherwise unpalatable news and ideas . . . At its worst, it can be used to belittle and intimidate.  This Captain Sheeple routine, like Jon Stewart’s work, seems to be somewhere in between, and is therefore less easily categorized.  I see Jon Stewart’s work as subtly subversive, as it seduces us into the idea that, because we are in on the joke, we’re actually smarter than the people we’re laughing at (usually our politicians and appointed members of government).  We become smug in the idea that we understand the issue at hand, simply because we’re part of the “in crowd” that knows when to laugh.  I think that Jeff is above that, but he could certainly dispel that notion, having had his laugh, by taking Morpheus’ discourse seriously.  Frankly, there’s nothing more irritating than to have someone persistently crack jokes when one is dead serious.  Morpheus has apparently given some thought to his theories, and it would be only reasonable courtesy to give him the attention he needs to be heard.

FWIW

 

*  I was recently flagged after having posted a bit of gibberish that was intended as a subtle protest against cryptic inside jokes on the open threads.  By sheer happenstance, it seems that the phrase, "47X" also happens to be the name of a pornographic website.  Now, my post had nothing whatsoever, in intent, to do with pornography . . . In fact, folks who've been on this site for any length of time know that I could rightly be accused of being a prude . . .  Nonetheless, since my relatively innocent mischief was taken offensively, I told Jason that he should feel free to delete my comment . . . because I would not want to give the impression that anything even remotely interpretable as reference to pornography would be tolerated here.  My point is this:  Sometimes our actions have unintended consequences because we all come to the table with a different set of experiences. 

**   Though it is clear to me that many folks do, indeed, conduct their lives and intellects on the same level as sheep, I personally avoid using the word "sheeple", as it has an insulting shock-value that I feel is counterproductive.

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Re: The Captain Sheeple News Thread

on the videos:  they were fine, but not THAT funny, so people claiming that this thread is saving the community just because the humor was so golly gee whiz slap happy amazing are BSing.

on the dialogue after the videos:  if somebody posted a cartoon making fun of the peak oil crowd, or the sustainable community crowd, or organic gardeners, no doubt they would be slightly funny, but past behavior makes it clear some folks here patronizing Morpheus to learn to take a joke would be righteously indignant, or at least would engage in group ostracism. if anybody comes on this site and makes light of or questions anything CM says, wow the "brigade" goes into african bee attack mode, sort of an internet version of a medieval stoning session, though of course a bit of obligatory humor would be thrown in to make it look like the attackers weren't so serious.  

what's funny is group behavior...all groups...not just "those ones" we aren't a part of.

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C1oudfire wrote:

We become smug in the idea that we understand the issue at hand, simply because we’re part of the “in crowd” that knows when to laugh.  

Linda,

(Not to single you out on this specifically, but your above statement was relevant to my argument)

This is the entire reason why I donned the Captain Sheeple moniker in the first place. This forum has degraded into thread after thread, post after post, of people looking down their collective noses at the poor, uniformed sheeple. Wake up people, WE ARE THE SHEEPLE, EVERYONE OF US!!!

 Am I the only one who sees the sheer hypocrisy of this situation? You have sheeple condemning sheeple for being sheeple. But somehow, if we are privy to the latest  conspiracy speculation then:

We become smug in the idea that we understand the issue at hand, simply because we’re part of the “in crowd” that knows when to condemn.

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JAG, your last post I think is VERY helpful.  Thanks.  Seriously.  That wasn't the intended message of whoever made the videos, but if that was your intent, it's an important point for me to remember.  MLK, Gandhi, etc. never got anywhere by belittling a group they conjured called "the masses" or considering themselves above them.  I think they were quite exceptional at considering themselves part of the same unified humanity.  They inspired people to join with them in a higher calling rather than putting them down or creating divisive groups.  That's the solution to the mess we find ourselves in and I need to remember that.  That's what CM does a good job of as well.  At the same time, I think it can be helpful to call out the one group, the crooks and control freaks, that are addictively pursuing their self-interest at the expense of everyone else...even CM has done that with posts about "Goldman looting" and such.

 

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Strabes,

Thank you for agreeing with my point. But I have to tell you, I am the one who made that video, and my intent in doing so was to get us (this specific community) to take a step back  and have a good laugh at our own expense. To repeat, my intentions were to bring our bifurcated community together, if only for a moment.

Needless to say, I completely failed at this effort, as many here took offense.

Oh well, at least I tried.

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Well, I'm not sure this is a pasture I want to step out into, but I finally had a chance to check out the videos and -- they were silly and they did make me laugh.  

Morpheus, please do not go away.  As others have said, you are a valued, thoughtful, intelligent member of this community.  I think I agree with you and your take on the world a good percentage of the time.  And, when I have some free time, I want to start reading the radio thread.  I won't have anything to contribute, but you have already inspired me to try to learn Morse Code (something I've talked about doing for years).

 C1oudfire, I appreciate your comments regarding the danger of smugness (which is why the word "Sheeple" actually, really bothers me -- it seems to say some are too dumb to even be called "people").  When we're smug, we cut ourselves off from people who could contribute to the dialogue.  Maybe it's a stage that people go through on the way to really attaining knowledge.  I remember how when I was in college and discovered serious music (Classical, World, Jazz, etc) I used to make fun of my sister for listening to Rock -- make fun of her until she would burst into tears of anger over my Smugness.  Instead of talking and finding common ground and teaching each other, I was just a jerk.  Nowdays, I love all genres of music and cringe at my former behavior.  People come to this site to try and make sense of an increasingly crazy scary world.  I for one, do not know who or what to believe any more.  So, I'm just trying to stay open to all points of view. And, I'm trying to hang onto my sense of humor -- which is a real challenge.  There's not as much funny in the world these days.  So, today, I will chuckle at a fake sheep voice shouting "Panic!Panic!"  But, I will try not to laugh in such a way that others feel belittled.  There must be some middle ground here.

becky

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