Partial Secession? by UT, AZ

I lived for 14 years in NM. From 1975 to 1989 - really great years. I felt free there. I did not worry about the police because I did not do anything wrong. I bought several guns at stores - you just walk in and buy the gun you want. Beautiful. I got jobs when I needed one. I got paid decent and except for in the ski resorts the cost of living was reasonable. No traffic jams except for rush hour in Albuquerque. No toll roads. Very little government madness. Low taxes. It was all good. I do not know what it is like now but Gary was the Gov and it is said he did good. I live in NJ now. I am surrounded by heavy duty government. Government everything. Even with Christie there is still government everything. Taxes are high. It is very expensive to live here. It is messed up and I do not see how it gets fixed. The cities are full of class of dependency people. Take a drive through Newark, Camden, or Trenton and you will get an eye full. It is a long way from NM.

The constitution is good. It defined a form of government that was designed to protect the rights of the people - not take them away. I felt A LOT more free in NM than I do in NJ. Bless the people out west. They are tough. They want to be free and they may just be a little piece of the puzzle of how we get out of the mess we are in now. If they are able to create a "freedom zone" in America then they will end up with better schools, more economic activity, less crime, and a better quality of life.  People will want to move there.  Companies will create jobs there. 

This will be opposed by every power one can imagine. The masterminds will oppose this all the way. This is one of the very few things that could really mess up the current mastermind gig. Washington will do everything within its power, and that is a lot, to try to stop a mountain states "freedom zone".  If they really try to do it they will be crushed.  The Fed Gov simply can not allow such a thing to happen.  The Fed Gov will not give up its accumulated power over the states without a true struggle.  They simply do not care what the constitution says.  As a matter of fact, people who believe the constuitution is a good thing are now believed to be "problem people".
 

but I fear the main ones benefitting from this freedom will be the profit-makers. Yes, there are too many regulations and laws, period. The problem comes with getting rid of the ones restricting innovation, and keeping the ones that provide for a higher quality of life. Therein lies the rub - different groups will have different definitions.

For example, deregulation can spur innovation. It can also result in a uranium mine in the Grand Canyon (but, heh, no problem - think of the revenues and the jobs!) Strip-mining in the national forests? Absolutely! The trees will grow back!

I have ZERO faith that any state government will act in the long-term best interest of the people. It will act to gain short-term revenues, and the corporations will be spending millions in lobbying to ensure they gain access - with as little restrictions or responsibility as possible - to do whatever they please. Once again, the average citizen will lose out.

Eliminate limited liability.  Contrary to apparent popular thought, limited liability is a new concept, and one that not only destroyed jobs, it also resulted in speculative investment, short-sighted environmental practices, and the ability to separate risk from reward; i.e. societal risk and private reward.  Does this pretty much sum up what's wrong with corporate America?

Regulations aren't needed when the consequence for polluting someone's water table is death.  How many CEOs would you have to execute before business practices became ethical?  I'm guessing zero, because once you eliminate the limits on liability, the possible results will become painfully obvious.  CEOs are not stupid, just amoral and opportunistic.

by Michael Boldin

tenthamendmentcenter.com:

Yesterday, Barack Obama won the presidential election. But, the people of six states voted to take their freedom without federal “permission.”

In ten states – Colorado, Montana, Oregon, Washington, Wyoming, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Massachusetts and Alabama – voters had a chance to resist DC and approve ballot initiatives which would nullify unconstitutional federal acts. Six of them passed. And here’s a brief rundown of each:

1.  Montana, Referendum 122

LR-122 is an act “prohibiting the state or federal government from mandating the purchase of health insurance.”  It also prohibits the imposition of “penalties for decisions related to the purchase of health insurance coverage.”

The measure passed overwhelmingly, 65%-34%

Full report HERE

2.  Colorado, Amendment 64

Section 3 allows the “personal use and regulation of marijuana” for adults 21 and over. Section 4 addresses legal commercial cultivation, manufacture, and sale. The intent is that marijuana be regulated in a manner similar to alcohol.

Colorado, after Washington State (info below), is the 2nd state in the country to have passed full legalization, and one of only a handful in the entire world.

The measure passed by 54%-46%

Full report HERE

3.  Alabama, Amendment 6

This legislatively-referred amendment frees Alabama citizens from any requirement to participate in Obamacare, or any other compulsory health care program. The ballot language reads as follows:

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of Alabama of 1901, to prohibit any person, employer, or health care provider from being compelled to participate in any health care system.

It passed, 59%-41%.

Full report HERE

4.  Washington State, Initiative 502

Whatever you call the plant, Washington DC considers it dangerous and illegal. Laws on the books in Congress – illegal. The executive branch – aggressive about enforcing those laws. The supreme court – in 2005 ruled against the idea of states legalizing for any purpose.

But yet, 18 states have been standing up and defying DC on this issue by legalizing marijuana for limited medicinal purposes. Washington’s I-502 takes it a step further. It ends marijuana prohibition and treats pot in the same manner as alcohol. People are allowed to grow, produce, sell, buy and consume the plant – in direct defiance to all three branches of the federal government.

The Initiative passed, 55%-45%

Full report HERE

5.  Wyoming, Amendment A

Wyoming voters passed a health care freedom amendment to the Declaration of Rights in the state constitution.

The Wyoming Constitution now guarantees citizens of the state the right to make their own healthcare decisions with minimal governmental interference.

Article 1, Section 38 – Right of Health Care Access

(a) Each competent adult shall have the right to make his or her own health care decisions.  The parent, guardian or legal representative of any other natural person shall have the right to make health care decisions for that person.

(b) Any person may pay, and a health care provider may accept, direct payment for health care without imposition of penalties or fines for doing so.

It passed by a huge margin, 76%-24%

Full report HERE

6.  Massachusetts, Question 3

A YES VOTE  on Question 3 enacted “the law eliminating state criminal and civil penalties related to the medical use of marijuana, allowing patients meeting certain conditions to obtain marijuana produced and distributed by new state-regulated centers or, in specific hardship cases, to grow marijuana for their own use.”

The 18th state to nullify federal laws on weed did it in a landslide. The final tally was 64%-36%

Full report HERE.

The only chance for liberty is for activists to focus their time, energy, money and resources on a state and local level, rejecting and nullifying every unconstitutional federal “law.”

It is going to be interesting to see how it goes. The Fed Gov is going to reject the rights of the states. We saw this when AZ tried to enforce the Fed immigration laws to try to stop being overrun with illegal people. The Fed Gov (Holder) immediately when to court to try to stop them. The same may well happen here. If the states exercise their rights under the constitution then then entire massive all powerful central government thing the democrats (and to some extent the republicans) have been pushing for many years will be toast. The states exercising their constitutional rights might make the people happy and better off but it is going to anger the powerful and the politicians at the Fed Gov level.  They will be so upset they will have trouble sleeping at night.

This is all going to be very very very interesting. It will end up in a constitutional show down. I don't care about the pot smoking ones but the land use and the Obamacare related ones are going to create a lot of unhappy masterminds in Washington DC.

10th Amendment
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Ratified by Required Number of States, December 15, 1791.

In the constitution, the Fed Gov has very clearly defined powers.  Article 1 section 8 is very clear about what the powers of the Fed Gov are -

Article 1 Section 8

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

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As you can see, the Fed Gov as currently formulated is operating WAY outside of its constitutional powers. However, masterminds believe that they are much smarter than the rest of us and should be empowered to control us and "rule" us. Since the Fed Gov is unable to control itself and specifically does things that are not in the interest of the people, states asserting their rights are going to be a major problem for it. The big part of this is the supreme court. If the supreme court does it job then the states will have their right. If the supreme court is subverted and does not uphold their honor and function, then I don't know what happens. I suppose that means America descends into tyranny and violence.

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