Zero Excess Deaths from Covid in U.S.?

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  • Fri, Nov 27, 2020 - 03:44am

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    VTGothic

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    Zero Excess Deaths from Covid in U.S.?

Yesterday, Johns Hopkins published a new analysis of data collected by the CDC on deaths in the Covid era. The study engaged in some comparisons of total deaths from all causes before Covid and since Covid. Conclusion: no new/excess deaths are observable. Rather, what shows is reclassification of causes of death.

Before the day was out, the study was apparently pulled from the internet, and is now available only from the Wayback Machine.

My sourcing trail:

Saifedean.com Retweeted
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The censors pulled the Johns Hopkins article documenting zero excess mortality already. Archived here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20201126163323/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19

 

  • Fri, Nov 27, 2020 - 05:42am

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    Zero Excess Deaths from Covid in U.S.?

Please dont spread fake news . Here is the cdc report on excess deaths – the data is loud and clear https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/pdfs/mm6942e2-H.pdf

 

Overall, an estimated 299,028 excess deaths occurred from late January through October 3, 2020, with 198,081 (66%) excess deaths attributed to COVID-19.

 

  • Fri, Nov 27, 2020 - 05:50am

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    Zero Excess Deaths from Covid in U.S.?

For the average Jane who reads each of the articles, she must be left to decide whether the CDC or “John Hopkins” is more reliable.

off to plant chestnut trees in the covid free rural air.

  • Fri, Nov 27, 2020 - 06:26am

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    censoring = official denial?

Man.  With all the censoring that is happening these days, I’m going to write this up as an Official Denial.  Nothing is true until it has first been Officially Denied.

Didn’t the CDC say that masks don’t work?  And now they do work?  Or – do they really work?  I’m confused.

And about Vitamin-D.  Any recommendation?  And about Ivermectin.  Should we use that or what?  And about HCQ/AZI/Zinc given as an outpatient treatment?  Good?

CDC: gun to my head, I’m going to go with an alternate source, if there is one.  They’ve lost a ton of credibility with me.  If they followed the science before, they sure aren’t doing so now.  They appear lost in the Pharma-vaccine weeds.

  • Fri, Nov 27, 2020 - 06:31am   (Reply to #2)

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    VTGothic

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    Didja read the article?

@tatagiri,

Did you read the article? Or are you just going off headlines directly into pre-programmed script? I’m asking because you did not address the material, choosing instead to reactively attack me rather than responsively refute the article’s claims with new information.

It is the very CDC data that you want to hold up as unimpeachable (without inspecting it) that was critically analyzed, and then presented in a J-H webinar, by Genevieve Briand, assistant program director of the Applied Economics master’s degree program at J-H.

For my part, I do not consider Johns-Hopkins a source of fake news. Internal disagreements may exist, of course, on the bumpity road to truth, but that’s not the same as peddling fake news. And data analysis by an economist seems a good cross-check, dontchathink? That stress-testing of data, claims, and conclusions is what “peer reviewed” really means, when scientists and academics are doing their proper jobs.

Briand presented her findings in a webinar titled “COVID-19 Deaths: A Look at U.S. Data,” making it available for further peer review. If further examination disproves her analysis, all to the good; if, rather, her work is simply removed from public view, not so good; not so sciency.

If there is “fake news” to be discovered anywhere here, I hope it will be found by someone offering evidence that the webinar and underlying study were not removed from the ‘net as claimed in the Tweet by Stacey Rudin. That would be good news. I would then happily recant my promotion of this report.

 

 

 

  • Fri, Nov 27, 2020 - 07:16am

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    yes I should have read the article too

Oh my.  This article is a must-read.

No wonder they bit-bucketed this article.  I’m going to save it locally.  There.  I now have a pdf of the thing, just in case they persuade archive.org to trash it.  Which I’ve seen them do.

When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph below, this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes.

This trend is completely contrary to the pattern observed in all previous years. Interestingly, as depicted in the table below, the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19.

“If [the COVID-19 death toll] was not misleading at all, what we should have observed is an increased number of heart attacks and increased COVID-19 numbers. But a decreased number of heart attacks and all the other death causes doesn’t give us a choice but to point to some misclassification,” Briand replied.

Even if this isn’t a misclassification issue, it could still be just a death acceleration phenomenon.  By that, I mean that over a 1-year timeframe, a death due to heart disease that was going to happen in May, happened in April instead, when the victim got COVID and died a month earlier, but with a long enough timeframe, it all just sort of looks the same.  What would have been a May heart attack death turned into an April COVID death.

But on the annual numbers, the heart disease/dementia/cancer deaths drop, and the COVID deaths replace them.

That’s best case for the “Use COVID for the Great Reset” fearmongers.  It could still easily be a smoking gun for misclassification.

Super interesting article.

  • Fri, Nov 27, 2020 - 09:56am

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    Zero Excess Deaths from Covid in U.S.?

That is very striking data and hard to reconcile with my existing understanding that COVID itself is killing lots of people prematurely.

A data point that doesn’t fit with our existing narrative.

  • Fri, Nov 27, 2020 - 10:32am

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    Zero Excess Deaths from Covid in U.S.?

Well, I can easily explain the data, Western  MEDICINE, is the leading cause of the death..  infant mortality dropped significantly after covid too.   Avoid the doctors , you will be fine.  medicine or over medicating is better than doing nothing .. They say do no harm , but they do…  I could argue this all day – but Its not worth my time.  I am firm here on this belief , its more proven fact for me, so belief is really wrong here.  It should show people something serious.    Now as for being hit by a bus , the US is best for caring this..  As for heart disease, or any chronic condition or even any chronic infection..  its a fail.

  • Fri, Nov 27, 2020 - 10:47am   (Reply to #7)

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    Zero Excess Deaths from Covid in U.S.?

To my perspective we are trapped in a somewhat false paradigm when it comes to “cause of death”, a concept that has been weaponized by the usual pharma and sick care industry suspects.  Trying to keep score is confusing, since many deaths are from multiple causes and organ/system failures.  We keep score because the dollars tie to the score, and entire industries revolve around each, “cause”.  But isn’t the largest cause of disease simply failure of one’s immune system, or that together with failure’s associated with aspects of a more generalized inflammatory complex?

Covid-19 has been weaponized and operationalized in favor of the NWO/central bank great reset and against Donald Trump and his efforts to throw off this cabal.  I don’t doubt that there have been excess deaths of people who are overweight and vitamin D deficient in the course of 2020, but at the same time all this mask wearing, sanitizing, and social distancing has likely suppressed many infectious diseases with lesser R0’s (lesser transmissibility) than Covid-19, like the regular flu.  Regular flu deaths are way down, right?

The entire approach narrative was rigged from the beginning;  We need lots of ventilators, we should not use corticosteroids and no therapeutics work.  Wave #1 of filled ICU’s and long, drawn out death assured.

 

  • Fri, Nov 27, 2020 - 12:26pm

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    Zero Excess Deaths from Covid in U.S.?

Once again Ocam’s Razor points to a logical explanation.  Obviously the Corona Virus has powerful protective effects against heart disease.  When combined with the benefits of reduced stress, inactivity and not having to listen to the boss  during home isolation lock-downs  that is enough to overcome any health risks from what is usually like a minor  flu.

LOL

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