Your advice: doing Niacin flush for the first time
My partner and I will be trying the Niacinflush. (… we have been a little hesitant due to the crazy effects expected…!) We have read some posts here on PP about it. We would very much like some guidance, so please: how do we do this? (Amount, time of day, food/empty stomach etc. etc.)
BTW: each pill is 10mg Niacin (acid – the “flush”-version)
Also: what exactly are the benefits of the flush?
I can’t answer as to the benefits. My understanding is that non-flush is not true niacin and is not clinically studied and proven to provide benefits. ( usually cardiac ) I know here at PP we speak about immune benefits, but it only applies to the flush niacin. As to the reasoning and mechanism, I hope someone else can answer.
I have had niacin flush a few times. It is not pleasant. Some people say they get used to or learn to like it. Also, as you get used to taking a given dose, it becomes more minimal or stops occurring. But, you can avoid niacin flush by working up to a larger dose over a period of time. Some say you must get the flush to achieve benefit. I am not sure that is true. I also believe the more deficient you are, the lower the dose that will cause flush. Almost everyone flushes at 500mg. Some people are sensitive at 250mg. Most people can handle 50-100mg. I have flushed at 100mg on occasion. I hear eating food when you take it can also reduce the chance of flush. Perhaps, the food slows the release like a time-released supplement.
I’d suggest looking up Dr. Dimitry Kats at https://niacincurescovid.com/ – he recommends taking some melatonin ~30m before taking the niacin (nicotinic acid). His site has some rough ratios as a guide.
This is what I do. Typically I take 5mg of slow release melatonin about 30m before 1000mg of Nicotinic Acid. Very occasionally I will get a mild flush with tingling and redness in my face and neck however normally there is no reaction. Before I started taking melatonin with it I always flushed and sometimes it was intense. To the point where once I ended up with chemical like burns that were painful for nearly a week. Think really bad sunburn times a bunch.
You might want to try starting on a lower dose and having it with food to see if you get a reaction. I’m confident now that the melatonin will prevent the flush and take both on an empty stomach before bed (giving the melatonin time to absorb first).
I recently started experimenting with niacin based on curiosity piqued by davefairtex’s posts. I bought 250mg capsules at the overpriced Vitamin Shoppe since my CVS and Walgreens only had the flush-free types.
Taking it after a meal significantly reduces the flush for me.
I’ve been working my way up to 1000mg over the course of a day. It’s only been a few weeks and I’ve definitely noticed less flushing over time. In fact, last night’s capsule after dinner produced no flush at all.
Then progress to larger doses with less food in your stomach and then an empty stomach.
My first 500 mg flush on a full stomach was intense – both difficult in terms of the physical sensations and exhilarating in terms of the emotional ones – at the same time.
I now can do 1 gram on an empty stomach 2x/day with a minimal, almost unnoticeable flush if I’m busy doing other things.
I second Dr. Kats protocol. He is right about the melatonin + niacin flush, but is completely wrong about Ivermectin and is generally an angry person not worth giving your time to, except for the bits of jewels he provides like the above.
Having 50mg of melatonin 10-15 min before a 1000mg of nitonic acid and not getting any flush just astonishes me. How cool is that?
Yeah, that’s one thing about Dr. Kats I’m not a fan of. He doesn’t have the greatest attitude and isn’t the nicest person.
I try my best to ignore that as noise and look for the helpful signal. Think he’s onto something w/ the combo of melatonin and nicotinic acid. Take what’s useful, leave the rest.
Great comments from all of you – thanks a bunch! My only issue here and now is me having bought a bunch (750 tablets) of 10mg tablets.