World Getting Colder?

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  • Sat, Jul 24, 2021 - 01:32pm

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    kenwdelong

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    World Getting Colder?

The corporate media reports on every warm day everywhere in the world as “more evidence of global warming.”  But there are lot’s of places experiencing record cold as well (this will either be ignored, or reported as “inclement weather” or something). For example, when Portland was frying, New Mexico was 20 degrees below normal and Brazil was losing crops due to “unseasonal frosts.” So the picture we get is very slanted (surprise!).

This guy here https://electroverse.net/snowstorm-in-africa-south-africa-smashes-19-all-time-low-temperature-records/ reports in the opposite manner – every cold record set anyplace in the world is evidence of global cooling. He has a lot of datasets (for example, the Greenland ice sheet is currently thicker than normal, as is the Antarctic – see the data on his page) that seem to support the idea of the Grand Solar Minimum coming up.

I’m just curious what people think – basically I have hysterics on either side, each ignoring the other’s position. Is there any weight to the Grand Solar Minimum?  I have to say, due to the fact that it faces extreme government hostility, and is combatted with censorship and smears, it causes me to lend more credence to the theory.

  • Sat, Jul 24, 2021 - 02:48pm

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    AlvezPopinov

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We are seeing extremes of weather, where space weather has some effect, but most of the effects are human induced. Melting poles should tell you that average temps at the poles are warming. Increased episodes of flooding along the coast lines, particularly the East Coast of North America are increasing.

This was predicted in the 1970’s, so not part of a plan by atmospheric physicists to mess up people’s lives for their own gain.

  • Sat, Jul 24, 2021 - 03:09pm

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The Grand Solar Minimum concept is based on the idea that sunspot activity might die down to almost zero.  It won’t be happening during the next decade because solar cycle 25 has already begun.  At this point, solar cycle 25 appears to be similar to cycle 24, which was weaker than those in the recent past, but obviously not the near zero sunspot activity needed for a Grand Solar Minimum.

You can follow the progression of this new sunspot cycle by visiting https://wwwbis.sidc.be/silso/ssngraphics , where I found the graph below.

  • Sat, Jul 24, 2021 - 05:40pm

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    Andy in the Sun

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For the ones that are curious about what might be in for our future this brilliant Russian mathematics professor deciphered what drives the sunspot cycles. With her model she can now not only explain the details (the variations) of all past sunspot cycles but also forecast the future behavior of our sun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_yqIj38UmY

The video is a bit lengthily – but for someone with a little background in physic & mathematics and an open mind to think outside the (Zeitgeist prescribed by government) box – it will be certainly an interesting eye opener.

Additionally to the magnetic behavior model around 50:00 min she describes the SIM effect (higher oscillations of earth’s orbit) – that lead, despite cooling, to a higher number of weather extremes (also heat waves & droughts).

For insiders – this complements the discoveries by Dr Henrik Swensmark.

@ DiscoBear  yes, her her model forecasts a minimum between now and 2055 – but the current cycle will not be 0 for sure, that’s right.

  • Sat, Jul 24, 2021 - 08:51pm   (Reply to #4)

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Andy – I was about to share the Ukranian professor’s presentation and I see you beat me to it!  I saw the video 2 or 3 years ago and thought her theory seemed compelling.

Personally I’ve decided to keep an open mind about weather changes.  In some cases there are summer heat waves that are hotter than ever, but then in other areas the winters are colder or more severe (more ice and/or snow) than usual.  There seems to be 2 questions with respect to climate change:

1  Is global warming happening, and if so, is it causing other weather related events?

2. If global warming or climate change is happening, are humans responsible for it?

Many people also seem to confuse ‘climate change’ and ‘environmental destruction’, but I like to separate these issues.  Environmental destruction such as pollution of air and water, as well as other destruction of the earth’s resources, is clearly happening and I believe humans are largely responsible.  However, climate changes have happened historically all through history, and none of the past ice ages or warm periods involved the large population we currently have on earth, or the technology we deploy, and they happened anyway.  I’ve seen statements by various  scientists which contradict the prevailing narrative regarding global warming / climate change.

So while climate change may be happening (warming or cooling), I’m not convinced it is unnatural and I’m no longer worried about it.  We simply need to adapt.  As Professor Zharkova said with respect to proving her theory: “The sun will soon tell us what she is going to do”…..

 

  • Sat, Jul 24, 2021 - 09:34pm

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I am also not convinced that the climate instability is linked to man. The reason I say this (and I might be wrong) is that we were told that it was due to CO2 but then last March-August people reduced driving significantly and the CO2 levels didn’t go down. If they can find another mechanism then I will consider it.

  • Sat, Jul 24, 2021 - 09:40pm

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Climate Change Denialism is irrational. If you use a little logic, you can conclude it is true without science or “experts” telling you overwise. Our atmosphere is a closed system. We burn fossil fuels which release green house gases into our closed atmosphere. To believe that would have zero effect is to conclude that those gases (atoms) just vanish into thin air. That is a violation of physics and fundamentally irrational.

Quick story, I was maybe 10 or 11, in my mom’s car driving across town, a bus was in front of us, when are at a stop light, the bus pulls away, all this black smoke billows out. I ask my mom, “where does that smoke go?” Mom, “it just disappears and breaks apart in the atmosphere.” I was 10 or 11 but even then I knew she was wrong. Things just don’t disappear.

Climate change is true, without question. The fossil fuel industry has funded the denial campaign to protect their business. Just the one business of an endless line of business to lie in order to protect their business. Cigarette companies once hired their own Drs. to testify in congress that there was no evidence that cigarettes cause cancer, despite them know the exact opposite. And then the cigarette smokers that couldn’t quit or didn’t want to would clamp onto those lies because those lies told them what they wanted to here.

I don’t watch the news any longer, but when I did, I could make the very simple observation that each year there where more record highs than lows. If the climate was stable, those numbers should be about equal. That simple observation along with a little critical thinking skills is all you need to figure out the truth. That’s assuming one cares about the truth more than protecting a belief that is being challenge.

Place your quest for the truth before any other quest, place it before your beliefs, think and embrace logic and you can answer many questions accurately without the need for authorities. But that only works if you care more about the truth than defending your beliefs. I suspect several post above are more concerned about saving a belief that trying to figure out what is true.

Well, you absolutely have the right to think as you do. However, a few things come to mind.

You are undeniably wrong. A closed system has no inputs or outputs. I don’t know if you’ve seen that big ball in the sky. That is adding heat, which is an input. I also don’t know if you’ve heard of thermodynamics but a lot of heat is being lost to space.

Yes that pollution is not good. It is causing all sorts of bad stuff, but global warming? I don’t see the evidence. And I’ve looked. When NASA “adjusts” temperatures to fit the models, there is a reason (https://electroverse.net/nasa-caught-adjusting-global-temperature-graph/). They need the data to say something it isn’t saying.

This world of ours has lots of huge risks. We could all perish any day any time. And I am all for being kind to the planet. We only have one. I will work hard to make my footprint less impactful. But, I will not now or ever contribute to a lie in order to make hysteria so that other people will take the threat seriously. A lie has a way of undoing the good that you were intending.

Chris talks about depletion of the soil and the waters of necessary minerals, bioflora and vitamins. This is a threat that I can see evidence for and I want to work toward a fix.

  • Sun, Jul 25, 2021 - 04:35am

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    Andy in the Sun

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Hi JWhite,

good to see that we both are in sync on this matter. I have to emphasize that I fully support you on your statement

Many people also seem to confuse ‘climate change’ and ‘environmental destruction’…

That is what I always bring on in my discussions with people – but it seems the media is so successful in confusing people’s mind that wherever I go and I explain this they are unable to grasp. (I relate this to junk information overflow – people are not able to think and articulate precisely anymore)

This reminds me to a statement of one of the founders of Germany’s Green Party – a honest and pragmatic environmental protectionist who has left his his party long time after they got subverted and literally taken over by the socialist/cultural communist movement. He lamented:

They (the TPTB) have stolen the environmental protection idea/spirit (from us) and sold it back to us as Global Warming (to make money from it).

  • Sun, Jul 25, 2021 - 06:20am

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    RandomMike

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Well the classic guy on this subject for a couple decades has been Robert Felix: https://www.iceagenow.info/  and his book Not by Fire But by Ice.

He was on Art Bell and Coast to Coast for at least 15 years; his web site constantly showed cold temperature records. Sadly he died a few months ago with some strange symptoms.

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