Will Trump sign Insurrection Act and use the military to arrest the criminals?

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  • Tue, Jan 19, 2021 - 04:24pm

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    dreinmund

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    Will Trump sign Insurrection Act and use the military to arrest the criminals?

Most of what you describe would have happened anyways. Now it’s just accelerating.

I say: bring it on. New life comes after death.

  • Tue, Jan 19, 2021 - 06:10pm   (Reply to #10)

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    Will Trump sign Insurrection Act and use the military to arrest the criminals?

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/my-pillow-ceo-says-bed-bath-beyond-kohls-stop-selling-his-products

 

Sleeping Giants, a leftist activist group, has ongoing campaigns to pressure companies to drop conservative and right-leaning websites, such as Breitbart News and Fox News. On Twitter, it trumpeted the news that Bed Bath & Beyond and Kohl’s dropped My Pillow, claiming Lindell played a part in motivating the breach of the Capitol by questioning the results of the 2020 election.

  • Tue, Jan 19, 2021 - 06:26pm

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    Will Trump sign Insurrection Act and use the military to arrest the criminals?

There is some 1990’s era mafia movie with a scene where the “good fella”s take on a MC gang in a local bar that the MC gang was taking over.   That’s based or similar on a real cases, and one in my old neighborhood in Trenton.   The MC gang was the Breed, and it was in the late 70’s or early 80’s.  They started showing up and posing at “The Edgewood” bar  and attempting a takeover of the local street drug trade which had a representation in that place.   The locals booted them out, in a series of fights, and the Breed moved on.   At least for a while, but there was some reprocussions to a couple family members, which I learned only a puff of three decades later.   In the same time frame the Hell’s Angels showed up in a area near the Bowery in New York, and they were lead by a more deadly leader.   That tough neighborhood couldn’t toss that vicious soul and his gang out.   Such vicious men, though, age quickly.

A vicious man destroys the organization around him, like muriatic acid on concrete.  My old Rabbi had a yiddish saying which translates, as he explained, as just give the bastard all the money he wants.    Biden is a wanna be vicious man, but what he is a greedy patriarch and wife — a pair works, history shows — who is easily bought: the record shows that.    And he always wants more.   He did well as a Senator and as a VP in those roles:  the Presidency will likely burn he and his family by their own greed and sense of comfortable entitlement.  No one will like them, so I speculate, the loathing will grow quickly and homostatically.   Like Mr. Marshmallow’s overgrowth in Ghostbusters.  Biden’s always been the follower, the sometimes petty vicious  follower — ask Clarence Thomas, but the follower in a pack of real killer rats, of tough politicians.   There’s a reason he and his family are Kings of Delaware, of all states, and he was picked by Obama.

There was some reason I told the MC gang duel with the tough neighborhood locals story.  Let me try to remember it.   Oh well, maybe another day.

Oh … finally I gots it.   Did you all see that 3%’er who got arrested in combat-larp gear?  When I saw that I felt sorry for the young man, and I hope he gets send home, federal expenses paid, no crime, no damage.   Everyone moves one.  Keeo LARPing as the toy playtime it is.   But there are the “1%ers”: the term taken over in the wake of the 1947 WWII vets on bikes, Hollister Riots in California. Big public uproar.   Establishment motorcyclists said then that 99% of motorcyclists were law-abiding.  So what do you know?  A bunch of outfits started wearing 1%-er patches.   Outlaws.

The MC gangs came to the north Jersey shore, and attempted to set up drug overlordships and such.   But, and this is legend, not fact, but legend I’ve heard from a rider in a tough neighborhood who rode, not in a gang, but with other tough young ex-military of the post-Iraq War I era and since, those gangs quickly met up with the 0%er’s.   The young mob affliate men on bikes and in bars in the northern shore towns of Jersey, the very discrete and very effective in quiet violene, the 0%’ers, and they don’t wear colors.  No colors allowed in those towns, and how is that learned?   By osmosis!   And osmosis  happens up close and personal. The 0%-ers, a legend in some quarters.

I never liked Q and all the Q “insider” stuff, all malarky and vapor ware.

 

 

 

 

 

  • Tue, Jan 19, 2021 - 06:52pm

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    Q: False Hope Operation

I recall listening to one podcast.  It just didn’t resonate.  The two things that killed it for me were:

1) just how sure they were about the outcome

2) one of them mentioned that Chairman Xi of China was in on it.

The op generated a ton of false hope at a key moment in history, which kept a bunch of possible actors off the board – reading their “droppings” – at a critical time.

“Top Men are On It.”

Except – we are the Top Men.  And if we’re off reading “droppings”, and we are told that the experts have it all under control, then we are definitely not “on it.”  Who ran the op?  To know this, all you have to ask is: cui bono?

If they weren’t reading their droppings, some number of these people would have definitely become more “active” – like Brandon Straka, who worked tirelessly to get the message out to the gay community that Trump really wasn’t a bad guy, and that it was time to “walk away” from the woke liberal party.  He wasn’t reading “droppings”.  He was a very effective motivational speaker.

https://www.walkawaycampaign.com/

We are walking away from the lies, the false narratives, the fake news, the race-baiting, the victim narrative, the violence, the vandalism, the vitriol. We are walking away from a party driven by hate. We are walking toward patriotism and a new, unified America! We are the future of this great nation!

Brandon’s walkaway group (500,000 people!) has since been wiped off facebook.  Because, extremism.  Or something.  Doesn’t matter.  Do what you’re told.

Now imagine if some of those Q-dropping readers had been as active as Brandon.  What might have happened?

I believe Q was a well-executed operation, providing a mix of truth and deception.  CCP?  CIA?  Maybe Brennan and some of his ex-agency people with funding from a Biden Donor subgroup?  Impossible to tell from a distance.

But the beneficiaries were definitely the Biden Donors.

  • Tue, Jan 19, 2021 - 08:38pm

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    RE. Q: False Hope Operation

definitely it  functioned as a false hope operation “ Trust the Plan”  Q was more than that.   It was a classic disinformation psyop brilliantly married with modern understanding of behavioral economics.  They seeded a self organizing and expanding crowd sourced movement for years allowing them fertile ground to plant loony disinfo and delegitimize   by association legitimate and very real issues such as dominion voting machine interference and other very real election fraud issues with demonstrably false and easily debunked claims.   Such as the machines were being run and controlled from Venezuela or China was smuggling in false ballots etc.

it was all fun and games until it mattered then you could see the CIA or whomever move in for the kill shot.  Most easily visible with High profile Qtards like Lin Wood Sidney Powell et al. get trashed on the legal front pursuing and promoting the outlandish at the expense of the pragmatic and provable and thus discredited the entire array of legitimate legal challenges avail to them.

This is equivalent of seeding the internet with conspiracies such as the twin towers were destroyed by directed energy weapons from outer space to muddy the waters as people figured out that the laws of Newtonian physics were violated by the official explanation

Same thing with the Sasquatch insurrection a completely manipulated event now being used to drop the boot and Iron  curtain of tech censorship while the mighty Wurlitzer cries out through their mockingbird media mouthpieces in unison for a “New 911 inquiry” to purge the wrong thinkers

They will be teaching This Q op at Langley for years to come

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From what I can tell from watching people I know being influenced, the operation did swing a substantial number of spiritual/new age types to vote for Trump.  It might have had a similar effect in other groups.

It would help confirm your claim if it could be shown that people in states that were either strongly for Biden or already strongly for Trump were targeted while those in battleground states were carefully avoided.

Is there a way to determine which states were most strongly influenced by Q?  As an anectotal story, I know of people in my circles in NY and New England who were influenced in this way – all states that were low risk to swing to Trump.  One friend was influenced by a California channeler of the “Galactic Federation of Light”.  I would bet that the new age/spiritual crowd somewhat favors liberal states: West Coast, Northeast and certain places like western NC, Colorado, Austin TX, some trendy Rocky Mt. towns.  Possible swing states with significant numbers of these folks include Pennsylvania and perhaps Wisconsin and Michigan.

And of course there is Dave’s assertion that distracting the big influencers was perhaps a much bigger deal in the swing states than those who were swayed towards Trump by the operation itself.

  • Tue, Jan 19, 2021 - 09:51pm

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    the Q operation

So, it is entirely possible that the Galactic Federation of Light exists, and that Q was still a False Hope Operation that kept the highly motivated off the streets and out of action, reading the “droppings” and expecting to be rescued at the last moment.

“Trust us, we have this covered.  Ballots are all marked.  The good guys will scoop up the bad guys when the moment is right.”

Mixing in truth with the lies is absolutely required to make this work.

I agree that swinging the spiritual types on the coasts was not likely to turn either NY or CA.  I have some examples of that also.

You know, I bet they got facebook data to monitor progress and sculpt message, same way Trump did with Cambridge Analytica back in 2016.   It wouldn’t be hard to do, if you had access to the data realtime, and you could sort out who was a believer from keywords.  Note: they kept them around on FB right up until the last moment.  Kept them around to monitor them.  Then popped them when the time was right – when it was time for the kill shot.

 

  • Tue, Jan 19, 2021 - 10:37pm

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    Q op

Quercus,

I don’t think you understand my assertion.   Q op was not about  SwingIng voters towards Trump  I don’t even think it would or could target Biden voters.  Give the extreme polarization of the country It operated clearly on hard core Trump supporters and of course predated Biden’s selection by the DNC politburo by years.

it was about building a communications channel to manipulate existing Trump supporters to both sideline them from action as Dave asserts and foster an environment of credulous  self deception which was weaponized and amplified discrediting the populist  movement at critical inflection points.

While the antics of Q supporters no doubt validated Biden supporters already hardened opinions the real damage was done ie the pay off was to the public control Narratives Like discrediting the election challenge, the congress Insurrection and the ridiculous notion that 90 million Trump supporters are Neo  Nazi white Supremacists in need of re-education and a threat so large we need complete police state lockdown and war on Domestic terror.

They also conveniently discredited the very real existence of blackmail honey traps and pedo rings by amplifying and distorting claims in that domain.

It was not geographicaly targeted but a self organizing  network that emerged from the“droppings” from the Central Source.

 

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  • Tue, Jan 19, 2021 - 10:43pm   (Reply to #18)

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    Will Trump sign Insurrection Act and use the military to arrest the criminals?

I get that MM.

I was just exploring the impact of one downside – swinging actual Biden voters in the spritiual/new age crowd to Trump.  This was something I observed in real time.

Initial conclusion: small relative to the voter margins and concentrated in states that were strongly for Biden and therefore very low risk of swinging.

 

  • Tue, Jan 19, 2021 - 11:14pm

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    Urban folktales in the internet age: Q anon

So, Q is …. a truth teller from deep inside government, or a CIA psy-op, that is designed to help Trump, or maybe to hurt him. Q is trying to bring down the insiders, or maybe maintain their control.

The consistent logic behind each of these contradictory ideas is that there is a centralized entity behind the Q phenomenon and that they have a certain intentionality; ie someone is using Q to push a specific agenda.

Is that how viral memes work on the internet? Maybe sometimes I guess. But more often it seems internet sensations come about accidentally as self-emergent properties. I don’t know much about Q-anon, but if I had to wager money I’d guess it was someone telling interesting stories on the internet that took on a life of their own, propelled less by any connection to truth or specific agendas than to the power of an internet folktale that spreads simply because a) it’s interesting and b) it allows people to believe that they’ve discovered some secret insight into what’s really going on.

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