Why Vaccine-Produced Spike Proteins Are Not Cytotoxic

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  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 11:57am   (Reply to #29)

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    Ubermeister

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    Why Vaccine-Produced Spike Proteins Are Not Cytotoxic

Amazingly, some proles have ALREADY forgiven the death of their children, urging others to continue to vaccinate despite their personal losses. The continuing denial is beyond belief, and really is madness.

  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 12:54pm

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    Why Vaccine-Produced Spike Proteins Are Not Cytotoxic

“I’m so cynical now that all I could think was:

“They are just hoping the protest movement dies down a bit if they say they aren’t gonna give it to kids.   Then they’ll do it”.”

I dont think its being cynical, you’re just learning how they do business.

  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 02:06pm

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    Re Dr.Been His latest on Vax recommendations, by age, gender

This is the boldest he’s come out, after a dive into the VAERS system numbers and some other data. He takes a nuanced stand, trying to discern risk-reward. Bottom line is “women below 50, and men below age 30, caution!”

some suggestions start here:

 

https://youtu.be/lpDwpMyQtA

  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 02:55pm

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Wholeheartedly agree with Dave and brushhog.   The onus is on Pharma to prove the vaccines are safe – and with data I’ve seen showing that second dose likely isn’t needed (that is, efficacy doesn’t get better with it over time:  https://twitter.com/DavidBCollum/status/1406723805532274693), the profit motive becomes very  (most?) likely.

Couple that with the fact that IVM should have supplanted all vaccines until tested fully, and the FDA seems to have painted itself in a corner.   Any one venturing a guess as to the odds that the FDA WON’T fully approve the the vaccines now that hundred of millions of Americans have been jabbed?   1 in 200,000,000?

  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 03:21pm   (Reply to #34)

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    Why Vaccine-Produced Spike Proteins Are Not Cytotoxic

“Any venturing a guess as to the odds that the FDA WON’T fully approve the the vaccines now that hundred of millions of Americans have been jabbed?   200,000,000 to 1?”

I think the answer would come from understanding the fine print concerning EUA vs FDA approval and most of us don’t have that.

Off the top of my head, the big win here for pharma is their not having any liability for what is happening.  So can you be FDA approved and still not liable for adverse events?

Could all these rules be changed at the whim of regulators at this point anyway and we would be the last to know?

  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 04:53pm

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Off the top of my head, the big win here for pharma is their not having any liability for what is happening. So can you be FDA approved and still not liable for adverse events?

I’m pretty sure the answer to that question is “yes.”   That is, Pharma can’t manufacture and sell without FDA approval, and liability for manufacturers is thwarted  by statute, see 42 U.S. Code § 300aa–22 (“No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, if the injury or death resulted from side effects that were unavoidable even though the vaccine was properly prepared and was accompanied by proper directions and warnings.”).   And since its in the US Code, it would likely take legislation to change it.

But my point is this, I can’t envision that the FDA will deny full approval of the vaccines in the end.  To do so after this campaign (because of IVM or adverse effects) would be most remarkable.  And maybe that’s why the FDA hasn’t required that those being jabbed be monitoring more than 15 minutes after the fact.

 

 

 

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