Why Vaccine-Produced Spike Proteins Are Not Cytotoxic

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  • Mon, Jun 21, 2021 - 11:19pm

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    Why Vaccine-Produced Spike Proteins Are Not Cytotoxic

The discussion about the spike protein being cytotoxic, reminded me of the firearms debates: The gun is innocent he says, its the bullets that did harm, no it was the person who shot the gun, no, it was the person who sold the gun, and so on…

There is some underlying mechanism for the metabolic mayhem after the vaccine’s second dose administration and it appears that the spike protein is crucial to it. I was initially concerned about the longer term potential for complications (ADE). The reported data (EudraVigilance, yellow card, and VAERS) of early problems is way off the chart by historical standards, which begs the question: How bad does it have to get before the ‘vaccines’  get pulled?

Dr. Mobeen’s video was busy claiming “Hey, the vaccine-generated spike proteins can’t harm people by mechanism A.”

My responses were essentially: “So what? It is quite plausible that they can harm people by mechanism B, but the necessary research hasn’t been done yet.  And they certainly seem to be harming people by some mechanism.”

  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 12:20am

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    How bad is the mRNA-induced spike protein?

Apparently so toxic and able to “reproduce” that just shedding and transferring a small amount can start the vax adverse reaction cascade in others in close proximity.  This is maybe the most conclusive and astonishing account of shedding that I have read.  I assume this was written by Dr. Simone Gold (MD, JD) who is the principle of AFMD.

https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/blog/who-spiked-the-shot/?s=03

Now that COVID-19 vaccinations are in full force, clinicians are observing many unusual illnesses that require further investigation. Oftentimes, doctors, practitioners and nurses must put on their private investigator hats when searching for the root of a condition. Here is an example. I am currently investigating a group of 4 girls in a military academy that have been on strict lockdown since January 2020. They are only allowed to socialize in their tiny cohort and live in a 4-bed dormitory. None of the girls had COVID-19 in the past nor have tested positive for antibodies. One of the girls opted to get the Pfizer mRNA vaccine due to pressure from her parents. Within 45 minutes of receiving the injection, she returned to the dorm feeling unwell, and had to lay down. Within 24 hours, 2 of her roommates spiked fevers. One of them had additional respiratory symptoms consisting of shortness of breath and dry cough, and the other, headaches and extremity pain. These symptoms persisted for 5-6 days. On day 7 one of the non-vaccinated girls presented with a full-blown shingles outbreak, and the other with chest pains and acute leg pain, warranting a visit to the emergency department. She was later diagnosed with pericarditis and a blood clot in her leg.

No, that doesn’t sound scary at all.

  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 12:58am

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    nixon

Possibly relevant to this moment:

After losing the 1960 Presidential Election, and after losing the follow-on 1962 California Gubernatorial election, Nixon gave a farewell speech to reporters, saying it was his last press conference: “You won’t have Nixon to kick around anymore.”

That lasted about 6 years, of course, after which he was President for 1.5 terms.  Give or take.

https://www.nixonfoundation.org/2017/11/55-years-ago-last-press-conference/

I leave you gentlemen now, and you will write it. You will interpret. That’s your right. But as I leave you I want you to know—just think how much you’re going to be missing. You won’t have Nixon to kick around anymore, because gentlemen, this is my last press conference, and it will be the one in which I have welcomed the opportunity to test wits with you. I have always respected you. I have sometimes disagreed with you. But unlike some people, I’ve never cancelled a subscription to a paper, and also I never will.

I believe in reading what my opponents say, and I hope that what I have said today will at least make television, radio, and the press, first recognize the great responsibility they have to report all the news and, second, recognize that they have a right and responsibility, if they’re against a candidate, give him the shaft, but also recognize if they give him the shaft, put one lonely reporter on the campaign who will report what the candidate says now and then. Thank you, gentleman, and good day.

  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 02:24am

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    and one more thing

Just because I disagree with the framing you placed on the video (Why Vaccine-Produced Spike Proteins Are Not Cytotoxic), and because I take exception to you applying the “trade-off” thesis to this particular case  – because it cannot possibly apply in a situation where you do not have enough information to MAKE such a trade-off – doesn’t mean I’m “picking a fight.”

I just disagree with your statement.  And your framing.

In “The Four Agreements”, there’s Agreement #2: “Don’t take anything personally.”

When I can manage to pull this off, it makes my life much easier.

https://psychcentral.com/blog/the-second-agreement-dont-take-anything-personally#3

  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 07:16am

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    Why Vaccine-Produced Spike Proteins Are Not Cytotoxic

“Why the f*ck am I the poster boy for the vaccine agenda around here? Because I’m trying to be intellectually honest?

So you’re tryin to say that only pro-vaxxers are intellectually honest???

LOL, just kidding. Take it easy. 😉

  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 10:43am

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    WHO says do not give vaccine to children

This from ZeroHedge.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/world-health-organization-says-do-not-give-children-experimental-coronavirus-vaccine-shots

I checked on the WHO website and sure enough it says…..

Children should not be vaccinated for the moment.

There is not yet enough evidence on the use of vaccines against COVID-19 in children to make recommendations for children to be vaccinated against COVID-19. Children and adolescents tend to have milder disease compared to adults. However, children should continue to have the recommended childhood vaccines.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/covid-19-vaccines/advice

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

 

  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 11:07am

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    how long does the shedding go on for?

Does anyone have any info on this? Would it be safe to be around vax’d people after, say, a month or so after their shot?

  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 11:22am

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    WHO says do not give vaccine to children

I saw that ZH article too.  I’m so cynical now that all I could think was:

“They are just hoping the protest movement dies down a bit if they say they aren’t gonna give it to kids.   Then they’ll do it”.    Britain  went through this with the vaccine passport idea, promising not to do it every time the public got irate and then moving forward when people settled down again.

The protein shedding thing wasn’t something I expected to be real.  Ive gotten a few massages from someone vaccinated (dont know which shot) and I had heard about the concept at the time but didnt put much stock in it.

Anyway my anecdote is that I didnt notice symptoms after 2 hours total in close contact with this person breathing over me and touching me.  Its gonna suck if it turns out I need to take Ivermectin et al every time I leave the house for the next decade…

  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 11:40am   (Reply to #29)

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    Why Vaccine-WHO recommends not vaccinating children

wotthecurtains,

I also have become incredibly cynical.

As soon as I saw the article saying that the WHO was recommending against vaccinating children, I thought:

Hmmm, they probably figure that the proles can forgive a lot. But when their children die, the proles will never, ever forgive that.

 

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