Why isn’t pipeline hack an act of war?

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  • Wed, May 12, 2021 - 02:53am

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    RandomMike

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    Why isn’t pipeline hack an act of war?

So, someone hacks an East coast fuel pipeline, what a mess but no (visible) retaliation. Naughty boychicks!

Then, maybe a West coast pipeline. Nasty people.

A Kansas electrical power grid. Pay them off?

What’s the difference between these things and a naval blockade of a coastal fuel port? A rocket attack on a coal generation plant?

 

  • Wed, May 12, 2021 - 03:32am

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    Why isn’t pipeline hack an act of war?

The question “who’s behind it” would give us the answer. If this was done by the same people who orchestrated the riots, infected the world, and installed a corpse behind razor wire, then it will be spun as a “hack”.

If it were done by anybody that they oppose, then it will be an act of war.

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    the cover story

I’m guessing the actual source was China & the Reset Gang, who have the goal of decreasing US consumption of crude oil by any means necessary.  Lockdowns, destruction of small business, restriction of travel, and now – pipeline shutdowns.

Higher gas prices will definitely result in less consumption.

Plus, the unmistakable message is: “You all really need to buy electric cars.”

Of course, the cover story will be: “BLAME RUSSIA!!!”

The RUSSIA!!! option means the Defense/Industrial complex can get more funding, and the already-bribed Oligarchy politicans can spend another 6 months ignoring the CCP, who are a vastly larger actual threat.

Anyone remember the virus that came from that Wuhan lab?  “Someone” allowed international travel out of Wuhan, while blocking travel domestically.

I don’t recall RUSSIA!!! doing that…

  • Wed, May 12, 2021 - 07:32am

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    Why isn’t pipeline hack an act of war?

Karl Denninger has a few choice words to say about this:

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242356

 

 

Before I retired, cyber attacks were a constant worry. We had so many security systems built into our software that our computer network slowed to a crawl. Even then – if something on a computer screen looked odd – I had walk around the office to find one of our information technology people to look at the computer before I so much as type a keystroke.

I always thought that a few federal budget line items could have been reduced and the money saved re-allocated towards beefing up cyber security task forces.

  • Wed, May 12, 2021 - 10:32am   (Reply to #4)

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    Why isn’t pipeline hack an act of war?

RandomMike, thanks for bringing up this topic. My quick thoughts, gotta run, more later:

– The Solar Winds hack would be much more in the “act of war” category IMO. Solar Winds was a phenomenal bit of engineering whereas the pipeline hack is more of a “off the shelf” type attack.

https://www.businessinsider.com/solarwinds-hack-explained-government-agencies-cyber-security-2020-12

– I was an IT sysadmin for 32 years and Mike from Jersey makes a great point – many laymen don’t understand how much overhead there is in cyber “security solutions.”

– Just finished this book and I highly recommend it if you’re interested in cyber.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/49247043-this-is-how-they-tell-me-the-world-ends

Take care guys…Wilco

 

 

 

 

 

  • Wed, May 12, 2021 - 02:35pm

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    Why isn’t pipeline hack an act of war?

Last year, at the Davos meeting, they war gamed a pandemic. A few months later we got a pandemic.

This year at the Davos meeting, the theme is set to be “cyber attacks” and we’ve already got one ahead of the meeting. Seems a little weird.

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    IAMMichael

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    Why isn’t pipeline hack an act of war?

davefairtex-

Here is my conspiracy theory: The courts refused to halt the Maricopa County vote recount, so the swamp (Dark Side) is sending a message- Stop the recount, we can take down this country. It is ours, we stole it fair and square.

  • Thu, May 13, 2021 - 06:09am

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    Why isn’t pipeline hack an act of war?

I work @ one of the companies that develops and sells much of the security software to industry that helps protect agains infiltration and ransomware.

It is a very complicated situation with a lot of overhead for companys to protect themselves.    For legacy/slow moving companies, they often simply dont understand the damage to business and reputation that can be done fairly easily.

Security also removes profit, so incentives are not well aligned to proactively invest.  Colonial as a private company wouldn’t even have stock holders to minimally hold them accountable.

As it relates to what type of actor perpetrated the attack.   because it is digital, it is easy to mask and redirect attention by leaving small clues that are in fact misdirection.  It is hard to be conclusive with anything in this area, especially then it is politically advantageous to place blame.

  • Thu, May 13, 2021 - 06:36am   (Reply to #9)

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    Do you think it was a test?

Is someone poking around the edges to see what is possible?  Or do they already know what is possible?

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